Unlike the general linux mentality of, get it out the door if it barely works,
Oh Please. It is all to easy to criticize what you do not understand.
This 'get it out the door' mentality you speak of does not exist. Linux was never inside, so it has nowhere to come out of.
Linux goes through the same levels of development as any other operating system, the difference is that each step is available to everyone, and not locked up behind closed doors.
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Sure it'd be fun for sport/daredevils, and useful for torpedos/missile systems, but how does it scale?
Imagine a vessel larger then most of todays super tankers, that travels faster then sound (making it faster then most(all?) comercial cargo plains) and does so UNDERWATER. No worries of being hit my storms, taking on water or capsizing in extreme waves, because its already underwater!
Shipping costs for shipments across the atlantic and pacific could drop to rates comparable to UPS ground from Maine to Arizona! Shipping time could drop from days and weeks to hours!
This is some really amazing stuff they are comming up with, I only hope humanity doesn't get screwed out of useful tech by corporations traping this in useless IP barriers.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
It is most probable that Microsoft merely re-defined 'grass root' to mean 'Corporate leadership' much like they have done with many other words, such as 'innovate' and 'quality'.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
The problem you cited in your anecdote is not a problem of computers being bad/detrimental to education, it is that educational software (at least then) was not well designed to fit its task.
The education (or as it is often called, edutainment, the name which reveals its inherent weakness) software was shoddy, this does not mean computers or their use is a bad thing, much like Microsoft products being shoddy does not conclude pc's are poor devices. One needs only to find the linux of education software (to use a comparison)to unlock the computers potential in teaching young children more effeciently and more effectivly.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
I saw The Perfect Storm last night with a bunch of people, it turned out to be an ok movie, lots of intense action, and the majority of us liked it.
But the ticket price!! 7.50$ for admission? At those prices, they should be including some preperation-H to ease the burning.
It's so expensive I don't even consider buying popcorn or soda anymore, I mean really, 4.50 for a small bag of grade F popcorn and artificial butter?
I'll wait till I can rent it and watch it while eating the microwave stuff. At least that way you don't have to listen to the crying child some idiot always brings to the most violent loud and intense movies.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
thus stomping out Transmeta's value proposition as the inexpensive, mid-perfoirmance x86 chip, no?
The Crusoe is not targeted as a mid-performance cpu, nor is it a x86 cpu. It is targeted as a versitile low power consumption cpu. It seems no one understands this.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Optics. X-rays. Gamma rays. All of these are outside the jurisdiction of the FCC.
Good idea signal, lets use wavelengths harmful to humans to transmit email from grandma. With good ideas like this one, why arent you out making millions instead of trolling/.??
Infact, someone I know very well is planning on doing this soon - next summer.
Oh wonderful, not only does signal 11 troll on slashdot, but now he is involved in terrorism as well.
What a world
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
I don't debate india's economy is growing, but I will say it is still closer to third world then 1st world. It would be safe to assume that in the next 25-50 years they will reach the level we are at today...who can say what the U.S. will be like by then? (probably a glass floored self lighting parking lot).
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Do some research on the extreme poverty found in India, compare it to the poverty levels in the United States, THEN tell me the Indian economy is not a struggling one.
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Malda: *squish* Gosh, there wasn't that much there, you sure you got the right brain? Hemos: Yeah, bird brains.. right?
My god signal, tasking yourself with something as simple as flaming Katz, and you totaly dropped the ball.
If you don't mind me asking, are you a writer for the WB network? Because every time I read one of your trolls, I am reminded of the useless and mindless dialog you can always find on that network. I'm sure George Lucas could use your assistance writing for the part of Jar Jar Binks for episode 2. Don't worry about hurting your karma, the whole prequil trilogy is already considerd a troll, it can't possibly be moderated down any further.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
How arrogant to assume that the US is the only company that can make advances in this field!
US is the only company? This aint communism pal, and the US isn't completely run by the corporations yet, so you start off your troll by proving you are bantering.
for every dollar that was invested in NASA, economists have determined that we average about 6 dollars back in benefits from technology advances caused by NASA
Wow, that is a pretty large claim, and yet no link to prove your outrageous claims. I for one claim for every worthless post signal 11 makes, the U.S. economy alone suffers a loss of a million dollars. But I have no link to backup that claim, so it has as much merit as yours.
What's to assume India won't experience the same boost from investing in aerospace?
Maybe because when we were doing it, it was cutting edge, had never been done before and was pioneering. If anyone feels you can make great gains by re-inventing the wheel, then 'we have a serious problem'. Also, India does not have the economic and industrial might the U.S. had post WW2 to drive a mission like this and have it do anything other then bankrupt their struggling economy. It would serve their country far better to invest more in digital technology. I have known many people of indian origin, and also native to that country, who work in the U.S. technology industry. If India were able to harness this resource instead of losing so many talented people to the U.S. based industry, they could boost their economy into becoming a power house on scale with the United States.
At least this time the moderators recognized your troll, and rated it accordingly.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
You have crossed the line from foolishness to fraud. You have realized that you are wrong, and will now spew out any lie to save face.
You want links? Here is one 450W consumer power supply and This place also sells one. 450Watts too much? How about 400, which you can also buy HERE or HERE . That last one has a really great description/specifications page, but you have proven you aren't interested in reading things like that. You didn't really beleive your 300Watt power supply was the best on the market, did you?
Sure, I guess you'd know the difference between a DIMM slot made for cpu cache vs. main memory. I don't know anything about macintosh hardware, for all I know those dimms were there for caching accesses to main memory.
Your whole point is compeletly irrelevent because had you actualy READ the page (which is the issue of this thread) you would CLEARLY see in the specifications that the board has "Two 168 DIMM sites, support for up to 512Mb of SDRAM, 3.3V, unbuffered PC-100 DIMMS.". It is right there in plain english. Those two 'slots' that you cannot seem to identify ARE PC100 168pin dimm slots. You may as well argue that they might be new slots for a secret mac chip not yet revealed, you would be just as wrong either way.
Practice what you preach. I DO practice what I preach, I READ articles before I post about them.
I suggest you stop now before you totaly disgrace and completely discredit yourself.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
I'm well aware of your faq in which you try to justify your waste of bandwidth.
Temper, temper. Calm down. Witness the "Slot A" slot on my athlon. It looks physically identical to a connector for a PII mobo. Do 'ya think they'll work in each, however? No, which is why you read the tech specs..
Temper temper? To you I say Foolish Foolish. I did read the specs (you did not, because obviously you did not read the site before you posted, I did.) It could be pc66, 5v dimms, it doesn't matter, it is a dimm slot, and as you can see (that is if you have even read it at this point, something I am begining to doubt you ever will do) these dimm slots are CLEARLY occupied by cards with memory chips on them. Do you plan to argue that they might not be ram chips in order to justify your original post?
Furthermore, I hardly consider a visit to ONE vendor site a reasonable view of the market. Just recently I have read several reviews of 400W and 450W consumer power supplies. This Board is clearly not designed for consumer use, it is a 66mhz, 64bit pci device, a slot not found on consumer level motherboards, but you would have known this had you visited their page by now, wouldn't you?
This may be considerd a flame, but the root post of this thread is obviously a troll. If you are going to make statements about a product, please inform yourself about the product in question. Don't be the hardware equivelent of one of those foolish people who protests against movies they havn't seen.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
How does signal 11 get moderated up for this crap? He didn't even read the article!
Right HERE it CLEARLY shows two dimms on this board, and that pic is on the TOP of the page!!
Also if you scroll down to the discription you will see: Memory: Two 168 DIMM sites, support for up to 512Mb of SDRAM, 3.3V, unbuffered PC-100 DIMMS.
Not only this, but then he speculates this will over drain power supplys! Since when do massive datacrunching servers with raid setups have mere 300W non redundant powersupplys? And how often are large raid setups powerd by their host computer? On the discription page it also clearly states: Minimum 30W (processor speed and SDRAM size dependent) 5V 12-18A, 12V.5A Integrated power supplies: 3.3V and VCore are generated on-board, power is drawn from host system power supply.
If signal 11 had actualy READ the article before posting he would have acquired this information and maybe even said something useful.
Thank you for being so informative/insightful/interesting Signal 11!
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
the problem was that mere uneducated speculation (no offense intended) was moderated above content which may have more bearing on the issue. when I read through the comments, I'm looking for more information on the subject. Something highly moderated gives it the apearence of relevance, however on this subject, one of which I have knowledge of, I find that some inaccurate information has been given a great deal of attention, which causes misinformation among other people looking to educate themselves. That was the basis of my previous comment.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Where the press is covering the entier anti terrorist operation and the terrorist are watching it on their portable tv.
Press: Oh please Terrorists, don't watch this, by watching it you are endangering the lives of the 12 swat team men slowly climbing stairwell 4b to aprehend you and rescue the hostages!
The press can be so arrogant.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Case2 shows exactly why this should not be rated so highly.
The author proves he is blindly speculating when he states "I speculate that RDRAM is actually faster then DDR ( especially under heavy concurrent access, such as truely utilized AGP and SMP ). " He even notes he is speculating! RDRAM has already proven to not outperform current SDRAM in real world tests, yet this guy says he thinks it will outperform the next generation DDR, which by definition is 2x the speed of SDRAM!
He would do better to say that it wont matter at all because by then we will all be using internet toasters...
This proves moderators don't even read the stuff they moderate, they simply go for length and amount of HTML in a comment.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Slashdot Mirror
Slashdot graffiti may start to look more like its title implies!
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Sysadmins don't want to be apreciated, we want to be left alone!
Now please excuse me while I take these disks to the bulk era....er..bulk virus scanner...
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Oh Please. It is all to easy to criticize what you do not understand.
This 'get it out the door' mentality you speak of does not exist. Linux was never inside, so it has nowhere to come out of.
Linux goes through the same levels of development as any other operating system, the difference is that each step is available to everyone, and not locked up behind closed doors.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Imagine a vessel larger then most of todays super tankers, that travels faster then sound (making it faster then most(all?) comercial cargo plains) and does so UNDERWATER. No worries of being hit my storms, taking on water or capsizing in extreme waves, because its already underwater!
Shipping costs for shipments across the atlantic and pacific could drop to rates comparable to UPS ground from Maine to Arizona! Shipping time could drop from days and weeks to hours!
This is some really amazing stuff they are comming up with, I only hope humanity doesn't get screwed out of useful tech by corporations traping this in useless IP barriers.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
What kind of sex manual are they trying to push on us?
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
And were there any alpha/beta versions before 1.0?
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
The education (or as it is often called, edutainment, the name which reveals its inherent weakness) software was shoddy, this does not mean computers or their use is a bad thing, much like Microsoft products being shoddy does not conclude pc's are poor devices. One needs only to find the linux of education software (to use a comparison)to unlock the computers potential in teaching young children more effeciently and more effectivly.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
I saw The Perfect Storm last night with a bunch of people, it turned out to be an ok movie, lots of intense action, and the majority of us liked it.
But the ticket price!! 7.50$ for admission? At those prices, they should be including some preperation-H to ease the burning.
It's so expensive I don't even consider buying popcorn or soda anymore, I mean really, 4.50 for a small bag of grade F popcorn and artificial butter?
I'll wait till I can rent it and watch it while eating the microwave stuff. At least that way you don't have to listen to the crying child some idiot always brings to the most violent loud and intense movies.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
The Crusoe is not targeted as a mid-performance cpu, nor is it a x86 cpu. It is targeted as a versitile low power consumption cpu. It seems no one understands this.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Good idea signal, lets use wavelengths harmful to humans to transmit email from grandma. With good ideas like this one, why arent you out making millions instead of trolling
Infact, someone I know very well is planning on doing this soon - next summer.
Oh wonderful, not only does signal 11 troll on slashdot, but now he is involved in terrorism as well.
What a world
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Malda: *squish* Gosh, there wasn't that much there, you sure you got the right brain?
Hemos: Yeah, bird brains.. right?
My god signal, tasking yourself with something as simple as flaming Katz, and you totaly dropped the ball.
If you don't mind me asking, are you a writer for the WB network? Because every time I read one of your trolls, I am reminded of the useless and mindless dialog you can always find on that network.
I'm sure George Lucas could use your assistance writing for the part of Jar Jar Binks for episode 2. Don't worry about hurting your karma, the whole prequil trilogy is already considerd a troll, it can't possibly be moderated down any further.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
How arrogant to assume that the US is the only company that can make advances in this field!
US is the only company? This aint communism pal, and the US isn't completely run by the corporations yet, so you start off your troll by proving you are bantering.
for every dollar that was invested in NASA, economists have determined that we average about 6 dollars back in benefits from technology advances caused by NASA
Wow, that is a pretty large claim, and yet no link to prove your outrageous claims. I for one claim for every worthless post signal 11 makes, the U.S. economy alone suffers a loss of a million dollars. But I have no link to backup that claim, so it has as much merit as yours.
What's to assume India won't experience the same boost from investing in aerospace?
Maybe because when we were doing it, it was cutting edge, had never been done before and was pioneering. If anyone feels you can make great gains by re-inventing the wheel, then 'we have a serious problem'. Also, India does not have the economic and industrial might the U.S. had post WW2 to drive a mission like this and have it do anything other then bankrupt their struggling economy. It would serve their country far better to invest more in digital technology. I have known many people of indian origin, and also native to that country, who work in the U.S. technology industry. If India were able to harness this resource instead of losing so many talented people to the U.S. based industry, they could boost their economy into becoming a power house on scale with the United States.
At least this time the moderators recognized your troll, and rated it accordingly.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Slashdot headlines for next week...
Signal 11 makes worthless comment in worthless article, receives another +5 funny by worthless moderation.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
You have crossed the line from foolishness to fraud. You have realized that you are wrong, and will now spew out any lie to save face.
You want links?
Here is one 450W consumer power supply and This place also sells one. 450Watts too much? How about 400, which you can also buy HERE or HERE . That last one has a really great description/specifications page, but you have proven you aren't interested in reading things like that. You didn't really beleive your 300Watt power supply was the best on the market, did you?
Sure, I guess you'd know the difference between a DIMM slot made for cpu cache vs. main memory. I don't know anything about macintosh hardware, for all I know those dimms were there for caching accesses to main memory.
Your whole point is compeletly irrelevent because had you actualy READ the page (which is the issue of this thread) you would CLEARLY see in the specifications that the board has "Two 168 DIMM sites, support for up to 512Mb of SDRAM, 3.3V, unbuffered PC-100 DIMMS.". It is right there in plain english. Those two 'slots' that you cannot seem to identify ARE PC100 168pin dimm slots. You may as well argue that they might be new slots for a secret mac chip not yet revealed, you would be just as wrong either way.
Practice what you preach.
I DO practice what I preach, I READ articles before I post about them.
I suggest you stop now before you totaly disgrace and completely discredit yourself.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Temper, temper. Calm down. Witness the "Slot A" slot on my athlon. It looks physically identical to a connector for a PII mobo. Do 'ya think they'll work in each, however? No, which is why you read the tech specs..
Temper temper? To you I say Foolish Foolish. I did read the specs (you did not, because obviously you did not read the site before you posted, I did.) It could be pc66, 5v dimms, it doesn't matter, it is a dimm slot, and as you can see (that is if you have even read it at this point, something I am begining to doubt you ever will do) these dimm slots are CLEARLY occupied by cards with memory chips on them. Do you plan to argue that they might not be ram chips in order to justify your original post?
Furthermore, I hardly consider a visit to ONE vendor site a reasonable view of the market. Just recently I have read several reviews of 400W and 450W consumer power supplies. This Board is clearly not designed for consumer use, it is a 66mhz, 64bit pci device, a slot not found on consumer level motherboards, but you would have known this had you visited their page by now, wouldn't you?
This may be considerd a flame, but the root post of this thread is obviously a troll. If you are going to make statements about a product, please inform yourself about the product in question. Don't be the hardware equivelent of one of those foolish people who protests against movies they havn't seen.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Right HERE it CLEARLY shows two dimms on this board, and that pic is on the TOP of the page!!
Also if you scroll down to the discription you will see:
Memory: Two 168 DIMM sites, support for up to 512Mb of SDRAM, 3.3V, unbuffered PC-100 DIMMS.
Not only this, but then he speculates this will over drain power supplys! Since when do massive datacrunching servers with raid setups have mere 300W non redundant powersupplys? And how often are large raid setups powerd by their host computer? On the discription page it also clearly states:
Minimum 30W (processor speed and SDRAM size dependent) 5V 12-18A, 12V
If signal 11 had actualy READ the article before posting he would have acquired this information and maybe even said something useful.
Thank you for being so informative/insightful/interesting Signal 11!
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Press: Oh please Terrorists, don't watch this, by watching it you are endangering the lives of the 12 swat team men slowly climbing stairwell 4b to aprehend you and rescue the hostages!
The press can be so arrogant.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Farewell!
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
The author proves he is blindly speculating when he states "I speculate that RDRAM is actually faster then DDR ( especially under heavy concurrent access, such as truely utilized AGP and SMP ). " He even notes he is speculating! RDRAM has already proven to not outperform current SDRAM in real world tests, yet this guy says he thinks it will outperform the next generation DDR, which by definition is 2x the speed of SDRAM!
He would do better to say that it wont matter at all because by then we will all be using internet toasters...
This proves moderators don't even read the stuff they moderate, they simply go for length and amount of HTML in a comment.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
Couldn't Help it either =]
=P
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.
NightHawk
Tyranny =Gov. choosing how much power to give the People.