Wasn't that the "epic dual proc board" everyone wanted in 1999?
I think I remember that - something about those celerons made them sickly overclockable, and the cheap models had more L1 cache than the higher clock speed ones or something. Everyone wanted that one board and two of the celerons that would overclock to 500mhz each, back in the day when the rest of us were rocking the 400Mhz AMD K6-2's and whatnot.
Who doesn't want to pay royalties? As I understand it, the internet broadcasters just want the same deal that, say, satellite radio is getting.
Then you understand it completely wrong.
The deal that web broadcasters have in place right now is exactly the same as the sattelite radio companies. They are trying to make it basically the same deal, but reclassify "performance" from being 'one play of a song' to 'one play of a song to one listener'. At the same royalty rate. You see where this is a problem.
The other HUGE issue for me is that music that has been released with no or only some copyrights withheld are still being charged royalties. Bands like "Bomb the Music Industry" have released every thing they've ever done for free with no restrictions on royalties or payments for playing it. A lot of DIY punk in like this. But, the copyright board is STILL charging royalties on this stuff. How? Blanket flat fee on every song. The artist can file paperwork and claim the cash later, but there is no mechanism by which you can decline to have royalties collected on your music.
Um, Mars has an atmosphere. That's how they get dust storms and clouds and the like.
Technically, yes. Mars has an "Atmosphere". It's less than 1/100th as dense as our atmosphere, though. When people say "mars is too carbon-dioxide rich", they're slinging around numbers like mars' atmosphere is 99% ubreathable, or whatever, without mentioning that even if it were the same percentages of gasses as earth, there isn't enough of the damn stuff to breathe.
Solar Winds are supposedly to blame.
However, one thing Mars does have is gravity (it's a planet afterall). Getting someone *to* mars isn't that hard. But, compare it to the Apollo missions - to get off the moon, they needed a small rocket in the bottom of the LEM. To get off of earth with all that weight, they needed the Saturn V, which even to this day is the most powerful mechanical device ever built by mankind.
How the hell they plan on getting something roughly the size of a Saturn V *to* mars, in addition to all the equipment needed to set it upright, balance it for take off, get people into the top of it, light it, and get back to earth... is beyond me.
Yeah, I'm thinking return the legit data from a legit movie on a burned blue ray disc or whatever to get a BD+ handshake, and then as soon as it handshakes, holy nuts, buffer overflow, swap in burned movie and play with prejudice.
If blue-ray players are capable of running code from discs, it is only a matter of time before someone finds a way to exchange legit code with an exploit.
Want to pass completely encrypted, unbreakable information?
Use public-private key encryption to encrypt a message. An 8192 bit cypher should do the trick.
Post it on USENET. Under any topic - alt.startrek.wesley.crusher.die.die.die - post an encrypted block of text.
As long as you've had some contact with the person you're telling ahead of time, and they know what newsgroup to watch... If you want to be more secure, use PCMCIA ethernet cards as one-use while driving around an apartment complex or a city street looking for open WAP's and using ubuntu on CD. This is pretty much foolproof.
I can't believe anyone uses the phone for any covert information. Want to hide something? Hide in plain sight. Encrypt the fuck out of it. Post your public key.
10. I AGREE THAT I MUST BACKUP MY DATA, SOFTWARE, INFORMATION AND/OR FILES, Best Buy will NOT backup any data, software, information and/or files on my computer or other product unless I specifically request Best Buy to do so for an applicable fee prior to the performance for any repair or service.
I, THE UNDERSIGNED, AGREE THAT PRIOR TO DELIVERING MY PRODUCT TO BEST BUY FOR REPAIRS OR SERVICING IT IS MY RESPONSIBILITY: (1) TO BACKUP THE DATA, SOFTWARE, INFORMATION OR OHER FILES STORED ON MY PRODUCT; AND (2) TO REMOVE ALL VIDEOTAPES, COMPACT DISCS, CASSETTES, DVDS, FILM OR OTHER MEDIA FROM MY PRODUCT. FURTHER, I AGREE THAT WHETHER OR NOT I REQUEST BEST BUY TO BACKUP ANY DATA, SOFTWARE, INFORMATION AND/OR FILES, IN NO EVENT SHALL BEST BUY AND/OR ITS THIRD PARTY SERVICE PROVIDER BE LIABLE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES FOR ANY LOSS, ALTERATION, OR CORRUPTION OF ANY DATA, SOFTWARE, INFORMATION, FILES, OR LOSS OF ANY OTHER MEDIA FROM MY PRODUCT.
I'm sorry, but this is not a reason to say that best buy is unethical. This is not carte blanche.
I worked at a small computer service business across the street from Best Buy, they were probably our greatest source of customers. I was an onsite tech, so I guess I competed directly with Geek Squad - the difference being that we catered almost entirely to small businesses and our onsite techs had to have certifications. We did good work, and I'm proud of what I did when I was there. I didn't take shortcuts.
Anyway, we had a clause similar to "#10". And let me tell you - it wasn't there to screw the customers. It was there because, as the guy says, WEIRD SHIT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FIX COMPUTERS. The problem is that best buy's first instinct is to wipe and reload (to fix any problem - broken CD ROM? Try a w/r. Fan noise? try a w/r). We always told the customers that we should back up their data - and we had USB - powered notebook drives to do it on while we were onsite. Knoppix CD for the win (I guess ubuntu these days).
Trust me, though - that clause doesn't have to be for the purposes of "screwing the customer". Because as soon as you don't have one of those type clauses, someone will come in with their company computer that's working "but making a clicking noise", and the first time you plug it in, the hard drive will be completely toast, and all of a sudden it becomes your problem that their quickbooks payroll files are gone, and you better hope that the freezer trick will work on this hard drive.
It's unfair to claim that point #10 is the reason why geeksquad is devil incarnate.
What I don't understand is the idea that more computers piling up to be fixed is a bad thing. What a responsible company should do is inform customers about the wait time "till it hits the bench", and realize that having 2 weeks worth of computers to fix is a good thing; at least you know you have (2 weeks x number of techs x number of hours worked by techs on computers) worth of money to come in. If you want to turn a downside into an upside, do what we did - offer an extra $50 or $100 fee to jump your computer up to the top of the queue ("emergency service fee").
You do realize "Ultimate" means literally final, and Penultimate means "next to final", as in, the penultimate note of a piece of music is the 2nd to last note, or the penultimate bend in a road is the one just before the last one.
Penultimate != super ultimate, or more final than final
Yeah, that's the problem I don't know how we will solve. Where can we get water?
In theory, we could just throw a million baby cactuses on the surface, they grow, improve the atmosphere, etc, come back in 10 years with pine trees, and continue.
In practice, though... if there's *no* water on mars, in the form of vapor or whatever, how will anything live? Furthermore, we can't bring water there with us, we... kind of need it here on earth, so we're stuck to bringing sub-useful quantities with us. Ice comet maybe?
It's all chilled water; you hook it up to an external chiller, and the racks are set up back-to-front, and in between every pair of racks is a wall of fans and a radiator with cold water. The water sucks out the heat, and redistributes it outside the unit.
I don't know how they deal with humidity, to be honest.
I could give a shit about the widgets, the new (terrible) UI (I already have to deal with it with office 2007 in XP), the slower desktop graphics, the extra pretty stuff.
But eventually, after the cards drop in price, I'm going to want to play a game that needs DirectX 10. And I'll have to go to vista.
How is this news, anyway? COMPANY SELLING PRODUCT URGES EVERYONE TO BUY IT....aaaaand?
Oh, right, right about the "closed system". I just meant that it recirculates the same air and doesn't rely on having air vents to the outside world (such as would be required for, say, a traditional air conditioner).
And it figures that the military would have something like this. In sci-fi novels, they often have like "city in a box" or whatever where it's a bunch of modular buildings that you snap together like legos and bam instant city.
Ok, I just spent like 20 minutes poking around that site. They really have thought of everything with that box. It's pretty amazing.
The scope is limited to specific applications, but if you need a data room on the go? I can think of a few places where it is exactly ideal. Post-disaster, i.e. New Orleans, would be one. NATO actions, or similar needs for mobile infrastructure in war zones? I mean, it's a really neat idea.
And I was like "they can't have solved the cooling problems". But, appearantly, the box requires ethernet (fiber, probably), 208v 3phase 600A power, and... water. I would assume that's "cold municipal water", and I suppose you shouldn't be running a datacenter anywhere you can't get that. But, yeah, all watercooled heat exchangers, closed system. It's pretty brilliant.
Welcome to what the rest of us have been saying for years.
MACS ARE OVERPRICED.
Period. It's just that much more obvious now that they're using the same x86 hardware that everyone else is using.
You pay for the "user experience" whateverthefuck that means. They're a rip off. A PC of comparable price will SMOKE a mac on any application that taxes hardware.
Yeah, there ya go. I didn't know the details, but even when we recorded this admittedly piece of crap thing, we could tell that something we were doing wasn't coming out like other albums.
By the way, that was recorded by using the PA as a mixing board and using the line out, and a Sure SM-58. Plus a warzed copy of Cool-Edit Pro. It was really low tech. We figured it was something that we did wrong. But later, after I'd left the band and they recorded The Sting (their much more mature concept album based on the futurama episode of the same name) - even though by that point they have multiple good mics, and an Echo Layla sound card for multitrack recording, etc. - it's still the same thing. It's "not as loud" as the latest crap from nickelback or dashboard confessional or whatever the kids are listening to these days.
We always called it "peaking", and it's something that everyone who's recorded an album in the spare bedroom of their band mate's house can attest to - if you record with fewer peaks (places where the sound wave maxes out at the top of the available volume area), it sounds better. It just plain sounds better.
But, take songs off that CD and slam them onto a mix-tape style rotation or an iPod, and you'll be reaching to turn up the volume every time your song comes on.
From what I can tell, recording engineers are responding to the bands who don't want people to have to turn the music up (in particular record execs). It's one of those terrible problems - if everyone would agree on such-and-such date to back off the recording volume and get less peaks (say, no more than 7 per album), everyone's music would instantly sound better. But the fact that everyone's competing, and you don't want your copycat pop punk band to be the quiet one, means it's a self perpetuating problem.
You want LESS reason to interact with hip coffee shop girls who also happen to have enough cash to buy a Mac? And geeks wonder why they never get laid.... sheesh!
I just repeated this punchline to my wife. Her comment?
"I wouldn't worry about it, most of them are lesbians."
Hah, I don't work for CCP (nor am I in BoB). I simply play the game the way it's meant to be played - In game, no meta-gaming, no forum whoring, no whining.
And to be honest, I think the goons probably cost CCP more in tech support, wasted hours, ISD time wasted, and grief, than they bring in from their subscriptions.
Fact:CCP employees have cheated in the past. Fact:CCP routinely kills any dissent in their forums. Fact:CCP favors BOB. Fact:CCP covers up their employee tracks
It's a corrupt company. This is just the most current round of BS from them.
Then for the love of god, cancel your account, and convince as many fellow Goons to go with you as you can.
You don't have any personal experience with BoB cheating, you're towing the party line and repeating what has been told to you. Seriously, just quit.
Either you don't play eve, or you have been fed some false history.
The Goons are a relatively new feature in EvE. Most of the other big alliances - even the ones that are younger than Goonswarm, and there aren't many in the top 10 or 20 - can trace their origins back much further than their current incarnation. Goonswarm was formed in June of 2006 and will turn 1 year old next Sunday (hmmm, I wonder if all the drama llamas have something to do with this).
Now, I don't know what you're getting at, but this means that the people who have been in Goonswarm since day 1 still cannot have been there for more than a year. In eve, a year is a good warm-up period where you learn the ropes and train the necessary skills to play the game. They haven't been playing for a LONG [sic] time. Contrast that to IAC or the Red Alliance or BoB or Fix or ex-LV, or IRON, and you'll see that most of their players have 2 or 3 or even more years of experience at Eve.
I still consider myself a learning player, and yet my character is far older than Goonswarm's existence in the game.
Those of us that remember the game before Goonswarm was there remember it as a better place. I hope that this scandal and the Goon's lost credibility, combined with the hopefully non-idle threats to cancel their subscriptions, will mean that those of us who actually want to play the game, in-game, no metagaming, no drama llamas, no forum whoring, no spamming, can get back to playing the game we know and remember and could love again.
I don't trust a Goon's words as truth. Period. SomethingAwful does not have the best reputation on the internet, my friend. It has always been a cesspool, and Goonswarm is no different.
I have reasons for not trusting the goons, but among them are: Goons have used client side tools to hack the eve-online executable to their advantage in violation of the EULA, Goons have lied on the forums as I said about the developer joining their corp for no reason and at no request, Goons have spammed the forums to the point that they're unusable at the moment, Goons in general exhibit immature and outright childish behavior every chance they get, Goons constantly whine on the forums about everything that's ever beaten them about being overpowered or cheating. There are other reasons but that'll do for starters.
As I've said countless times now, you people cannot come up with allegations (bogus or not), and ask CCP to resolve the issue, and then subsequently choose to disbelieve everything they respond with. Either you trust them to resolve the situation, or you're just screaming into the void so that others can hear you scream. The Goons aren't interested in a resolution, and nothing will ever satisfy them. All they want is to cause drama.
And here we are again. Ignore that the goons did anything wrong, keep pointing the finger at CCP. Two wrongs do not make a right. And I'd imagine if you dig deep enough, you'll find skeletons in anyone's closet. Throw up enough allegations and eventually something sticks. And it's the least offensive of all of the allegations.
Goons are in the wrong here. They're actively trying to ruin the eve community and it's offensive to the rest of us legitimate players. Please stop, and grow up a bit.
Ugh, I'm not going to waste time on you, you're towing the party line and there's no sense in convincing you otherwise. If you don't trust CCP, why on earth are you asking them to resolve the issue - furthermore why do you continue to pay people whom you think are scum and whom you don't trust. Just quit.
But, I do have to say: Eve's one unique feature is that it's not a sharded server world - there is one eve server. As you say, "EA, Blizzard, Sony" devs don't meddle in their character's games. Well, yeah, cause if you admin a blizzard server, I'm sure your character is on a different server. Same with all the other MMO's. Strawman argument.
Anyway, good luck in life. Quit your eve subscription, go out side and have fun at a playground, and leave the rest of us to play in peace.
I live in Blacksburg, VA. I work for Virginia Tech's CS Department.
Which is why, above poster, that we don't have to worry about things like 400% increases in 30 minutes, etc. But, yeah, I guess the people are coming from Roanoke.
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Wasn't that the "epic dual proc board" everyone wanted in 1999?
I think I remember that - something about those celerons made them sickly overclockable, and the cheap models had more L1 cache than the higher clock speed ones or something. Everyone wanted that one board and two of the celerons that would overclock to 500mhz each, back in the day when the rest of us were rocking the 400Mhz AMD K6-2's and whatnot.
~Wx
Who doesn't want to pay royalties?
As I understand it, the internet broadcasters just want the same deal that, say, satellite radio is getting.
Then you understand it completely wrong.
The deal that web broadcasters have in place right now is exactly the same as the sattelite radio companies. They are trying to make it basically the same deal, but reclassify "performance" from being 'one play of a song' to 'one play of a song to one listener'. At the same royalty rate. You see where this is a problem.
The other HUGE issue for me is that music that has been released with no or only some copyrights withheld are still being charged royalties. Bands like "Bomb the Music Industry" have released every thing they've ever done for free with no restrictions on royalties or payments for playing it. A lot of DIY punk in like this. But, the copyright board is STILL charging royalties on this stuff. How? Blanket flat fee on every song. The artist can file paperwork and claim the cash later, but there is no mechanism by which you can decline to have royalties collected on your music.
~Wx
Um, Mars has an atmosphere. That's how they get dust storms and clouds and the like.
Technically, yes. Mars has an "Atmosphere". It's less than 1/100th as dense as our atmosphere, though. When people say "mars is too carbon-dioxide rich", they're slinging around numbers like mars' atmosphere is 99% ubreathable, or whatever, without mentioning that even if it were the same percentages of gasses as earth, there isn't enough of the damn stuff to breathe.
Solar Winds are supposedly to blame.
However, one thing Mars does have is gravity (it's a planet afterall). Getting someone *to* mars isn't that hard. But, compare it to the Apollo missions - to get off the moon, they needed a small rocket in the bottom of the LEM. To get off of earth with all that weight, they needed the Saturn V, which even to this day is the most powerful mechanical device ever built by mankind.
How the hell they plan on getting something roughly the size of a Saturn V *to* mars, in addition to all the equipment needed to set it upright, balance it for take off, get people into the top of it, light it, and get back to earth... is beyond me.
~Wx
Yeah, I'm thinking return the legit data from a legit movie on a burned blue ray disc or whatever to get a BD+ handshake, and then as soon as it handshakes, holy nuts, buffer overflow, swap in burned movie and play with prejudice.
If blue-ray players are capable of running code from discs, it is only a matter of time before someone finds a way to exchange legit code with an exploit.
Yeah.
What-fucking-ever.
Want to pass completely encrypted, unbreakable information?
Use public-private key encryption to encrypt a message. An 8192 bit cypher should do the trick.
Post it on USENET. Under any topic - alt.startrek.wesley.crusher.die.die.die - post an encrypted block of text.
As long as you've had some contact with the person you're telling ahead of time, and they know what newsgroup to watch... If you want to be more secure, use PCMCIA ethernet cards as one-use while driving around an apartment complex or a city street looking for open WAP's and using ubuntu on CD. This is pretty much foolproof.
I can't believe anyone uses the phone for any covert information. Want to hide something? Hide in plain sight. Encrypt the fuck out of it. Post your public key.
~Wx
I'm sorry, but this is not a reason to say that best buy is unethical. This is not carte blanche.
I worked at a small computer service business across the street from Best Buy, they were probably our greatest source of customers. I was an onsite tech, so I guess I competed directly with Geek Squad - the difference being that we catered almost entirely to small businesses and our onsite techs had to have certifications. We did good work, and I'm proud of what I did when I was there. I didn't take shortcuts.
Anyway, we had a clause similar to "#10". And let me tell you - it wasn't there to screw the customers. It was there because, as the guy says, WEIRD SHIT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FIX COMPUTERS. The problem is that best buy's first instinct is to wipe and reload (to fix any problem - broken CD ROM? Try a w/r. Fan noise? try a w/r). We always told the customers that we should back up their data - and we had USB - powered notebook drives to do it on while we were onsite. Knoppix CD for the win (I guess ubuntu these days).
Trust me, though - that clause doesn't have to be for the purposes of "screwing the customer". Because as soon as you don't have one of those type clauses, someone will come in with their company computer that's working "but making a clicking noise", and the first time you plug it in, the hard drive will be completely toast, and all of a sudden it becomes your problem that their quickbooks payroll files are gone, and you better hope that the freezer trick will work on this hard drive.
It's unfair to claim that point #10 is the reason why geeksquad is devil incarnate.
What I don't understand is the idea that more computers piling up to be fixed is a bad thing. What a responsible company should do is inform customers about the wait time "till it hits the bench", and realize that having 2 weeks worth of computers to fix is a good thing; at least you know you have (2 weeks x number of techs x number of hours worked by techs on computers) worth of money to come in. If you want to turn a downside into an upside, do what we did - offer an extra $50 or $100 fee to jump your computer up to the top of the queue ("emergency service fee").
~Wx
You do realize "Ultimate" means literally final, and Penultimate means "next to final", as in, the penultimate note of a piece of music is the 2nd to last note, or the penultimate bend in a road is the one just before the last one.
Penultimate != super ultimate, or more final than final
Yeah, that's the problem I don't know how we will solve. Where can we get water?
In theory, we could just throw a million baby cactuses on the surface, they grow, improve the atmosphere, etc, come back in 10 years with pine trees, and continue.
In practice, though... if there's *no* water on mars, in the form of vapor or whatever, how will anything live? Furthermore, we can't bring water there with us, we
yeah, but the box is sealed from the outside world. Once they have a bucket of water they've taken out of the air, what happens to it?
They don't just dangle a tube outside the structure. At least, I don't think... maybe they do...
There's no AC.
It's all chilled water; you hook it up to an external chiller, and the racks are set up back-to-front, and in between every pair of racks is a wall of fans and a radiator with cold water. The water sucks out the heat, and redistributes it outside the unit.
I don't know how they deal with humidity, to be honest.
Yeah.
The only killer thing in Vista is directX 10.
I could give a shit about the widgets, the new (terrible) UI (I already have to deal with it with office 2007 in XP), the slower desktop graphics, the extra pretty stuff.
But eventually, after the cards drop in price, I'm going to want to play a game that needs DirectX 10. And I'll have to go to vista.
How is this news, anyway? COMPANY SELLING PRODUCT URGES EVERYONE TO BUY IT.
~Wx
Oh, right, right about the "closed system". I just meant that it recirculates the same air and doesn't rely on having air vents to the outside world (such as would be required for, say, a traditional air conditioner).
And it figures that the military would have something like this. In sci-fi novels, they often have like "city in a box" or whatever where it's a bunch of modular buildings that you snap together like legos and bam instant city.
Neat!
~Wx
Ok, I just spent like 20 minutes poking around that site. They really have thought of everything with that box. It's pretty amazing.
The scope is limited to specific applications, but if you need a data room on the go? I can think of a few places where it is exactly ideal. Post-disaster, i.e. New Orleans, would be one. NATO actions, or similar needs for mobile infrastructure in war zones? I mean, it's a really neat idea.
And I was like "they can't have solved the cooling problems". But, appearantly, the box requires ethernet (fiber, probably), 208v 3phase 600A power, and
Color me impressed.
~Wx
Welcome to what the rest of us have been saying for years.
MACS ARE OVERPRICED.
Period. It's just that much more obvious now that they're using the same x86 hardware that everyone else is using.
You pay for the "user experience" whateverthefuck that means. They're a rip off. A PC of comparable price will SMOKE a mac on any application that taxes hardware.
~Wx
Yeah, actually, in all the sopranos episodes where somene important has been killed, the defacto food of fortelling is EGGS. Not oranges.
Yeah, there ya go. I didn't know the details, but even when we recorded this admittedly piece of crap thing, we could tell that something we were doing wasn't coming out like other albums.
By the way, that was recorded by using the PA as a mixing board and using the line out, and a Sure SM-58. Plus a warzed copy of Cool-Edit Pro. It was really low tech. We figured it was something that we did wrong. But later, after I'd left the band and they recorded The Sting (their much more mature concept album based on the futurama episode of the same name) - even though by that point they have multiple good mics, and an Echo Layla sound card for multitrack recording, etc. - it's still the same thing. It's "not as loud" as the latest crap from nickelback or dashboard confessional or whatever the kids are listening to these days.
Thanks for the explanation.
~Wx
We always called it "peaking", and it's something that everyone who's recorded an album in the spare bedroom of their band mate's house can attest to - if you record with fewer peaks (places where the sound wave maxes out at the top of the available volume area), it sounds better. It just plain sounds better.
But, take songs off that CD and slam them onto a mix-tape style rotation or an iPod, and you'll be reaching to turn up the volume every time your song comes on.
From what I can tell, recording engineers are responding to the bands who don't want people to have to turn the music up (in particular record execs). It's one of those terrible problems - if everyone would agree on such-and-such date to back off the recording volume and get less peaks (say, no more than 7 per album), everyone's music would instantly sound better. But the fact that everyone's competing, and you don't want your copycat pop punk band to be the quiet one, means it's a self perpetuating problem.
~X
You want LESS reason to interact with hip coffee shop girls who also happen to have enough cash to buy a Mac? And geeks wonder why they never get laid.... sheesh!
I just repeated this punchline to my wife. Her comment?
"I wouldn't worry about it, most of them are lesbians."
Hah, I don't work for CCP (nor am I in BoB). I simply play the game the way it's meant to be played - In game, no meta-gaming, no forum whoring, no whining.
And to be honest, I think the goons probably cost CCP more in tech support, wasted hours, ISD time wasted, and grief, than they bring in from their subscriptions.
~Wx
Fact:CCP employees have cheated in the past.
Fact:CCP routinely kills any dissent in their forums.
Fact:CCP favors BOB.
Fact:CCP covers up their employee tracks
It's a corrupt company. This is just the most current round of BS from them.
Then for the love of god, cancel your account, and convince as many fellow Goons to go with you as you can.
You don't have any personal experience with BoB cheating, you're towing the party line and repeating what has been told to you. Seriously, just quit.
~W
Either you don't play eve, or you have been fed some false history.
The Goons are a relatively new feature in EvE. Most of the other big alliances - even the ones that are younger than Goonswarm, and there aren't many in the top 10 or 20 - can trace their origins back much further than their current incarnation. Goonswarm was formed in June of 2006 and will turn 1 year old next Sunday (hmmm, I wonder if all the drama llamas have something to do with this).
Now, I don't know what you're getting at, but this means that the people who have been in Goonswarm since day 1 still cannot have been there for more than a year. In eve, a year is a good warm-up period where you learn the ropes and train the necessary skills to play the game. They haven't been playing for a LONG [sic] time. Contrast that to IAC or the Red Alliance or BoB or Fix or ex-LV, or IRON, and you'll see that most of their players have 2 or 3 or even more years of experience at Eve.
I still consider myself a learning player, and yet my character is far older than Goonswarm's existence in the game.
Those of us that remember the game before Goonswarm was there remember it as a better place. I hope that this scandal and the Goon's lost credibility, combined with the hopefully non-idle threats to cancel their subscriptions, will mean that those of us who actually want to play the game, in-game, no metagaming, no drama llamas, no forum whoring, no spamming, can get back to playing the game we know and remember and could love again.
~Wx
I don't trust a Goon's words as truth. Period. SomethingAwful does not have the best reputation on the internet, my friend. It has always been a cesspool, and Goonswarm is no different.
I have reasons for not trusting the goons, but among them are: Goons have used client side tools to hack the eve-online executable to their advantage in violation of the EULA, Goons have lied on the forums as I said about the developer joining their corp for no reason and at no request, Goons have spammed the forums to the point that they're unusable at the moment, Goons in general exhibit immature and outright childish behavior every chance they get, Goons constantly whine on the forums about everything that's ever beaten them about being overpowered or cheating. There are other reasons but that'll do for starters.
As I've said countless times now, you people cannot come up with allegations (bogus or not), and ask CCP to resolve the issue, and then subsequently choose to disbelieve everything they respond with. Either you trust them to resolve the situation, or you're just screaming into the void so that others can hear you scream. The Goons aren't interested in a resolution, and nothing will ever satisfy them. All they want is to cause drama.
~Wx
And here we are again. Ignore that the goons did anything wrong, keep pointing the finger at CCP. Two wrongs do not make a right. And I'd imagine if you dig deep enough, you'll find skeletons in anyone's closet. Throw up enough allegations and eventually something sticks. And it's the least offensive of all of the allegations.
Goons are in the wrong here. They're actively trying to ruin the eve community and it's offensive to the rest of us legitimate players. Please stop, and grow up a bit.
~Wx
Ugh, I'm not going to waste time on you, you're towing the party line and there's no sense in convincing you otherwise. If you don't trust CCP, why on earth are you asking them to resolve the issue - furthermore why do you continue to pay people whom you think are scum and whom you don't trust. Just quit.
But, I do have to say: Eve's one unique feature is that it's not a sharded server world - there is one eve server. As you say, "EA, Blizzard, Sony" devs don't meddle in their character's games. Well, yeah, cause if you admin a blizzard server, I'm sure your character is on a different server. Same with all the other MMO's. Strawman argument.
Anyway, good luck in life. Quit your eve subscription, go out side and have fun at a playground, and leave the rest of us to play in peace.
~Wx
I live in Blacksburg, VA. I work for Virginia Tech's CS Department.
Which is why, above poster, that we don't have to worry about things like 400% increases in 30 minutes, etc. But, yeah, I guess the people are coming from Roanoke.
It costs us to get that SLA, though.