As someone who worked on both HP's and Compaqs in the period 1999-2002 - what I remember of them was that HPs took a coon's age to get into. There were multiple screws, sometimes you had to take the bay enclosure out or the powersupply out just to get inside the case. Often, it took 30 minutes to add ram to an HP. Compaqs on the other hand (especially the ones with the blue swirly fronts) were great. The side popped of, the power supply was to the north of the motherboard instead of in the way, it was easy to get to things, drive rails were popular... a joy to work on, and a 2 minute RAM upgrade.
So, setting up compaq as the enthusiast sounds like par for the course, as far as design. HP=small footprint and (paradoxically) compact.
I haven't bought a completely new computer for my main box since 1999. I've been upgrading this and that here and there, and everything on the machine has as of now been swapped out (450Mhz K6II -> 800Mhz PIII -> 1800+ AMD XP). However, it's starting to get to the point where I really want a machine where all the parts are of the same computing era, and are under warranty. So I've been looking at a new system built by monarch, with a 3 year extended parts/labor warranty. It's honestly appealing. And it's not devoid entirely of nerdishness - I am going to select every part on the list...
By the way... The cause for my want to upgrade w/ warranty is the death of my 1 year old video card. Buyer beware: PNY "Lifetime Warranty" = Shelf Lifetime of product = for computer parts, rarely longer than 8 months. Plus receipt required (why? it's obviously a PNY).
Anyway, Warranties are ranking as the number 1 reason for not building it yourself, at least in my mind.
Say I purposely install Spyware on my Debian system. I look at the process list and see "gTkSpYwArE", so I kill the app, find out where it started, and I'm done. The app isn't coming back.
You've obviously never had a system rooted, have you?
Most root kits overwrite ps and pstree and a bunch of stuff in order to hide what's running.
So the "Problem" is more Microsoft's failure than it is the users failure. [...]They need to fix this basic architecture problem,
Dude, you're a douche.
Have you ever seen this:
./configure make su make install
This is standard no matter what OS you're talking about. In order to get a lot of programs or whatever installed, you need to be able to access system files, and that means being root, or being admin, or whatever. Try installing courrier-imap without root privs. Or any of a hundred other programs. Try installing and playing Diablo II without admin privs on windows.
You're a complete windows bashing fuckwit. Here's a clue I found in my pants for you: In order for programs to be able to run, many of them need to access the system. In order to access the system, on most OSs, windows included, you need to be admin/root. Ergo, spyware problems and stuff are using the same principle that unreal tournament 2004 is using: "This user needs to be able to access the system files in order to function. Therefore, we can access them too".
Disallow access to system files? Computer not usable. Or at least, you can't ever install anything, or run complex programs.
Is anyone else with me on this: Somehow, somewhere, they have taken our precious internet and completely screwed it up for the rest of us. Somewhere deep down inside, it actually hurts.
It used to be so simple, so pure - a system based on trust, decentralized so that no one company or person could take it over, unregulated - free.
It's just in about the past year that the internet , writ large, has become almost worthless. Yes, norton antivirus is good, so is ad aware, so is spybot, so is hijack this. But, there shouldn't be a need for those programs!
staff@netmar.com has always gotten lots of spam (when you have your address on your website for ~10 years, and in newsgroups, too, it's going to get spam), but just in the past 8 months or so, the deluge has become almost intolerable. We've even installed spam assassin and mime defang, and it rejects about 1/2 the mail we get, and we're *still* getting more spam than ever.
And I consider myself a power-user. I mean, I take precautions, I don't install comet cursor and all that crap. And I STILL get hit w/ spyware and crap.
God, it sucks. It's almost enough to make me want to give up. I pretty much hate the internet now.
I think it needs to be reiterated: It's a good start.
It's a huge first step. I now run firefox, it's the default browser on my windows box. If you've read my comments in the past, I've always been a fan of I.E., and I still am, to be honest with you. I think I.E. is faster, and renders things better than Firefox, firefox (even though it's no where near moz's bloat) still uses more memory, plus there's this annoying javascript transparent thing that Firefox doesn't deal with well, and it just has several little annoying things I don't like.
BUT.
After casual surfing the web (with google toolbar installed to block popups) on I.E. a couple of months ago, I proceeded to get spyware left and right that I didn't even know about! The damn javascript buffer overflow that installs cool web search got me. I had no idea I got it until I ran adaware. Then I got some freaking spyware bug that deleted windows media player and replaced it with a spyware app or a virus or something.
This is just from CASUAL web surfing. I didn't download anything, I didn't run anything, I never clicked "ok" on any of the "you are about to download and install 'CLICK HERE TO ACCEPT OUR AGREEMENT'" things. This was all exploits that hijacked my browser and installed spyware.
Fuck. That.
Firefox only has two advantages over IE+google toolbar: Tabbed Browsing (which i'm starting to like), and security. Until recently, they weren't reason enough to switch. Now, they are.
So, it needs to be pointed out: Yes, there are still ways to get spyware even when running firefox. It's true. BUT, firefox is a HUGE first step. I don't have anything worse than a few tracking cookies now.
AND it needs to be said: It does not mean you're a n00b l00ser if you run I.E. and you get spyware. It's nothing you did wrong. Even powerusers, whatever that means, still get spyware in I.E. You don't have to click to install anymore. It used to be enough to know that you shouldn't download and run stuff that you didn't know what it did. It's not anymore.
Grandparent, Paraphrased: "At $90, what does it offer that other distros don't?"
Parent: CodeWeavers CrossOver Office and Plugin makes it able to run any Windows compatible applications on Xandros Desktop. That alone could justifiy the cash for the average user to be able to make the switch.
Wait, what?!?
Number one: I was thinking about looking into this desktop, based on the pretty screen shots I saw. I've never enjoyed KDE, and I've been a fan of Gnome, and Ximian when I can get it, but this looks to take KDE and make it pretty nice. But, not for NINETY freaking dollars. It's just a tweaked KDE, right, like, with the crap taken out of the menu, and all pretty?
Number two: You're telling me that the reason that it's worth $90 is BECAUSE IT RUNS SOME WINDOWS APPS? You're fucking kidding me. Windows only costs $100. You're telling me that you think users should switch away from the 900lb microsoft gorilla in order to get the freedom (speech) and the freeness (beer) that Linux offers?!? And THEN you tell me that you think users should pay 90% the cost of windows, in order to be able to run a few select windows apps, because they will still need them in order to switch?!?
I'm sorry. I wish linux was good enough for the average user, too, just like everyone on slashdot does. But, the fact is that it's really not there yet. And to any windows user with any sense, what you just said sounds suspiciously like a good reason to STAY on windows. If it's only 10% cheaper, and not all your games and apps will work, plus your desktop is somewhat unfamiliar, plus it's generally not as professional and not as good, then why switch?
No, no, no.
If you want a desktop for the world writ large, one that will be more attractive than windows, it needs the following attributes:
1.) Free (speech) 2.) Free (beer) 3.) Pretty 4.) Functional 5.) Familiar 6.) Easy to use, without insulting power users 7.) Cross system compatability for apps 8.) Games
1.) Yes, I hope that AMD stock does go up, it's slumped this week (I've lost 2.2% this week on AMD in my simulator. 2.) But, Intel is probably a good buy anyway. Tech stocks tend to follow each other more than compete. When one does will, it tends to bolster the entire industry.
He went away after being constantly harassed and flamed by some of the adult children trolls who from time to time inhabit this place.
Really? Hrm. I just thought it was cause I've had slashdot set up to block articles by John Katz since like 2000. I figured he was still around, but I guess not.
Whatever, that guy was a serious weiner. I mean, it was cool when his pieces were the least bit objective and included any research at all, but after a while, he was just using syndicated (such as slashdot is syndicated) articles as troll bait.
Like you, I find debian a good distro to run, once installed.
But, imagine this: Rather than installing it once every 7 years, and then just using it, how about installing it twice a month, but, then after it's installed, walk away and never use it?
That's what annoys me. The Debian install isn't annoying once. It's annoying repeatedly. Most people can look past the install to the OS its self and enjoy the ease of use and stability. All I get to do is install, and then sit back and let the customer enjoy it. Now, that is of course part of my job description. But, that's what frustrates me. I do all the annoying work, and reap none of the excellent benefits.
Well, now that I have a debian team member in a thread that I am responsible for, I feel the need to quantify my response.
I mean no personal disrespect. None at all. To be honest, despite my tone in the previous post, I actually like debian once it's running. It's easy to install and upgrade, and I appreciate that. Having to deal with redhat day in and day out, I am so sick of RPM dependancy hell that I've pretty much washed my hands of RedHat, and apt-get (as well as emerge and similar tools) are fantastic and much appreciated.
It's just the installer that gets me.
And my problem is that I work at a webhosting company. I have to set debian up on machines fairly regularly. Not regularly enough to justify setting up a slipstreamed automated install, but regularly enough to be annoyed by it. And it frustrates me even more, because I'm usually setting it up on customer machines, so I get to do the grunt work, and then I don't even get to use the computer (to its credit, debian takes little "administration" time (read babysitting)). But that means I miss out on the parts of debian that I like. The saving grace of the install is the local 10/100 mbit mirror.
So, I'm disgruntled with debian's installer. I'm sick of telling it that, yes, I do in fact want a 2.4 kernel because I might want to do something with the lartc (linux advanced routing and traffic control) kernel stuff. I'm sick of having to open the damn case and install an 8139 card in order to download the drivers for the real network adaptor that redhat 9 picked up 2 years ago. Blah blah.
My conclusion has been that Debian is an excellent linux distro with a great philosophy of user control and choice which occasionally leaks over into some places where it's a nuisance.
I have seen quite a few distro reviews, and most of them start with either "the graphical installer is nice" or "there's no graphic installer!".
Debian doesn't currently have a pretty graphical installer...
*sigh*
When will people get this? It's not the lack of a "graphical installer" that keeps people from wanting to install debian. It's seriously not. I don't use debian, and mostly because of the installer, or issues that arise from the installer. But, hell, I installed redhat 6.0. It didn't have a graphical installer. I've installed gentoo on many boxes, from stage 1 to stage 3 installs, and that's certainly not graphical, and I actually enjoyed it. I've installed solaris 5.7, 8, and 9, on a variety of SPARCs and x86 boxen, and survived without blowing my top.
The thing people hate about the Debian installer is that it's annoying as all holy fuck.
Even if you choose the "install the standard system" options, it still asks you fourteen million questions, such that, after a few minutes, you just start accepting the default answer. It wants you to baby sit it, to set up a support group for it and walk it through in 12 steps. I can't even count the number of times it was all "read this page of information", and then, at the bottom, it tells me "i'm going ahead with this", and it's not like you have an option, so why the fuck read the page?
Not to mention the damn thing talks to you as if the computer is sentient! "I'm going to go ahead and try to detect your network", "Would you like me to install the development packages?", "I have a terrible itch right under PCI slot 3, can you scratch it with your tounge for me?"
I know the whole philosophy of debian is built around CHOICE and FREEDOM. But, at some points, just make a fucking decision for the consumer, will you? You're probably not going to alienate any zealots if you just go ahead and autodetect the network adaptor without creating a committee and waiting for someone to second the motion.
Everytime someone brings up the graphical installer vs. the world arguement, the test case is always Debian. It's unfair; Debian's installer sucks for completely autonomous reasons. If you'd like to see a relatively well-done command line installer, look at RedHat 6.x, or even the ansi installers for redhat 7.x, or Solaris' install, which is perfectly functional without being annoying.
He purchased a Camaro fiberglass funny-car shell body,...
Ah, so it's not really a camero. Well, not anymore than Dale Jr.'s Chevy is a real chevy. It's formed and made to look vaguely like one on the outside. I was wondering why go through all the trouble to re-route everything in the car, but he probably didn't have to.
Shouldn't people be arguing for guns which don't leave any traceable patterns?
I'd imagine if guns origionally were untraceable, as far as bullet markings, and a private industry wanted to add a watermark feature that scored the bullet such that it was identifiable, people would argue against it. It was a natural property found through forensic evidence.
Aside from which, dude, it's a murder scene versus a copied MP3. Jesus, it's not even in the same league.
Then Sun has not much left to offer but nice support plans.
And really, really nice 64bit hardware. But, you're right, that's going to have major competition in the years going forward.
I like sun. I think there will still be a niche market for them for quite some time (they're not dying, blah blah). But, I do think they need to innovate something. If they open solaris, it's going to keep a lot of people on solaris that might have switched and just been willing to deal with mediocre hardware, but it will also probably mean that a lot of stability could find its way into linux. So, yeah, you're right. This + something new and cool could be a good business move.
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As someone who worked on both HP's and Compaqs in the period 1999-2002 - what I remember of them was that HPs took a coon's age to get into. There were multiple screws, sometimes you had to take the bay enclosure out or the powersupply out just to get inside the case. Often, it took 30 minutes to add ram to an HP.
Compaqs on the other hand (especially the ones with the blue swirly fronts) were great. The side popped of, the power supply was to the north of the motherboard instead of in the way, it was easy to get to things, drive rails were popular... a joy to work on, and a 2 minute RAM upgrade.
So, setting up compaq as the enthusiast sounds like par for the course, as far as design. HP=small footprint and (paradoxically) compact.
~Will
I couldn't agree more.
I haven't bought a completely new computer for my main box since 1999. I've been upgrading this and that here and there, and everything on the machine has as of now been swapped out (450Mhz K6II -> 800Mhz PIII -> 1800+ AMD XP). However, it's starting to get to the point where I really want a machine where all the parts are of the same computing era, and are under warranty. So I've been looking at a new system built by monarch, with a 3 year extended parts/labor warranty. It's honestly appealing. And it's not devoid entirely of nerdishness - I am going to select every part on the list...
By the way... The cause for my want to upgrade w/ warranty is the death of my 1 year old video card. Buyer beware: PNY "Lifetime Warranty" = Shelf Lifetime of product = for computer parts, rarely longer than 8 months. Plus receipt required (why? it's obviously a PNY).
Anyway, Warranties are ranking as the number 1 reason for not building it yourself, at least in my mind.
~Will
Probaby not, what with that ERPPC on it's sholder (Mark VI model, anyway).
~Will
I think it's more effective to spank someone with a yard stick.
~Will
Say I purposely install Spyware on my Debian system. I look at the process list and see "gTkSpYwArE", so I kill the app, find out where it started, and I'm done. The app isn't coming back.
You've obviously never had a system rooted, have you?
Most root kits overwrite ps and pstree and a bunch of stuff in order to hide what's running.
~Will
So the "Problem" is more Microsoft's failure than it is the users failure. [...]They need to fix this basic architecture problem,
./configure
Dude, you're a douche.
Have you ever seen this:
make
su
make install
This is standard no matter what OS you're talking about. In order to get a lot of programs or whatever installed, you need to be able to access system files, and that means being root, or being admin, or whatever. Try installing courrier-imap without root privs. Or any of a hundred other programs. Try installing and playing Diablo II without admin privs on windows.
You're a complete windows bashing fuckwit. Here's a clue I found in my pants for you: In order for programs to be able to run, many of them need to access the system. In order to access the system, on most OSs, windows included, you need to be admin/root. Ergo, spyware problems and stuff are using the same principle that unreal tournament 2004 is using: "This user needs to be able to access the system files in order to function. Therefore, we can access them too".
Disallow access to system files? Computer not usable. Or at least, you can't ever install anything, or run complex programs.
~Will
I'm going to whine here.
Is anyone else with me on this: Somehow, somewhere, they have taken our precious internet and completely screwed it up for the rest of us. Somewhere deep down inside, it actually hurts.
It used to be so simple, so pure - a system based on trust, decentralized so that no one company or person could take it over, unregulated - free.
It's just in about the past year that the internet , writ large, has become almost worthless. Yes, norton antivirus is good, so is ad aware, so is spybot, so is hijack this. But, there shouldn't be a need for those programs!
staff@netmar.com has always gotten lots of spam (when you have your address on your website for ~10 years, and in newsgroups, too, it's going to get spam), but just in the past 8 months or so, the deluge has become almost intolerable. We've even installed spam assassin and mime defang, and it rejects about 1/2 the mail we get, and we're *still* getting more spam than ever.
And I consider myself a power-user. I mean, I take precautions, I don't install comet cursor and all that crap. And I STILL get hit w/ spyware and crap.
God, it sucks. It's almost enough to make me want to give up. I pretty much hate the internet now.
Frustrated.
~Will
I think it needs to be reiterated: It's a good start.
It's a huge first step. I now run firefox, it's the default browser on my windows box. If you've read my comments in the past, I've always been a fan of I.E., and I still am, to be honest with you. I think I.E. is faster, and renders things better than Firefox, firefox (even though it's no where near moz's bloat) still uses more memory, plus there's this annoying javascript transparent thing that Firefox doesn't deal with well, and it just has several little annoying things I don't like.
BUT.
After casual surfing the web (with google toolbar installed to block popups) on I.E. a couple of months ago, I proceeded to get spyware left and right that I didn't even know about! The damn javascript buffer overflow that installs cool web search got me. I had no idea I got it until I ran adaware. Then I got some freaking spyware bug that deleted windows media player and replaced it with a spyware app or a virus or something.
This is just from CASUAL web surfing. I didn't download anything, I didn't run anything, I never clicked "ok" on any of the "you are about to download and install 'CLICK HERE TO ACCEPT OUR AGREEMENT'" things. This was all exploits that hijacked my browser and installed spyware.
Fuck. That.
Firefox only has two advantages over IE+google toolbar: Tabbed Browsing (which i'm starting to like), and security. Until recently, they weren't reason enough to switch. Now, they are.
So, it needs to be pointed out: Yes, there are still ways to get spyware even when running firefox. It's true. BUT, firefox is a HUGE first step. I don't have anything worse than a few tracking cookies now.
AND it needs to be said: It does not mean you're a n00b l00ser if you run I.E. and you get spyware. It's nothing you did wrong. Even powerusers, whatever that means, still get spyware in I.E. You don't have to click to install anymore. It used to be enough to know that you shouldn't download and run stuff that you didn't know what it did. It's not anymore.
~Will
Grandparent, Paraphrased: "At $90, what does it offer that other distros don't?"
Parent: CodeWeavers CrossOver Office and Plugin makes it able to run any Windows compatible applications on Xandros Desktop. That alone could justifiy the cash for the average user to be able to make the switch.
Wait, what?!?
Number one: I was thinking about looking into this desktop, based on the pretty screen shots I saw. I've never enjoyed KDE, and I've been a fan of Gnome, and Ximian when I can get it, but this looks to take KDE and make it pretty nice. But, not for NINETY freaking dollars. It's just a tweaked KDE, right, like, with the crap taken out of the menu, and all pretty?
Number two: You're telling me that the reason that it's worth $90 is BECAUSE IT RUNS SOME WINDOWS APPS? You're fucking kidding me. Windows only costs $100. You're telling me that you think users should switch away from the 900lb microsoft gorilla in order to get the freedom (speech) and the freeness (beer) that Linux offers?!? And THEN you tell me that you think users should pay 90% the cost of windows, in order to be able to run a few select windows apps, because they will still need them in order to switch?!?
I'm sorry. I wish linux was good enough for the average user, too, just like everyone on slashdot does. But, the fact is that it's really not there yet. And to any windows user with any sense, what you just said sounds suspiciously like a good reason to STAY on windows. If it's only 10% cheaper, and not all your games and apps will work, plus your desktop is somewhat unfamiliar, plus it's generally not as professional and not as good, then why switch?
No, no, no.
If you want a desktop for the world writ large, one that will be more attractive than windows, it needs the following attributes:
1.) Free (speech)
2.) Free (beer)
3.) Pretty
4.) Functional
5.) Familiar
6.) Easy to use, without insulting power users
7.) Cross system compatability for apps
8.) Games
We're getting close, but we're not there yet.
~Will
Dude.
1.) Yes, I hope that AMD stock does go up, it's slumped this week (I've lost 2.2% this week on AMD in my simulator.
2.) But, Intel is probably a good buy anyway. Tech stocks tend to follow each other more than compete. When one does will, it tends to bolster the entire industry.
He went away after being constantly harassed and flamed by some of the adult children trolls who from time to time inhabit this place.
Really? Hrm. I just thought it was cause I've had slashdot set up to block articles by John Katz since like 2000. I figured he was still around, but I guess not.
Whatever, that guy was a serious weiner. I mean, it was cool when his pieces were the least bit objective and included any research at all, but after a while, he was just using syndicated (such as slashdot is syndicated) articles as troll bait.
~Will
Haha!
//golf clap for your post.
"I am *NOT* a committee!"
~Will
See, and that's my problem.
Like you, I find debian a good distro to run, once installed.
But, imagine this: Rather than installing it once every 7 years, and then just using it, how about installing it twice a month, but, then after it's installed, walk away and never use it?
That's what annoys me. The Debian install isn't annoying once. It's annoying repeatedly. Most people can look past the install to the OS its self and enjoy the ease of use and stability. All I get to do is install, and then sit back and let the customer enjoy it. Now, that is of course part of my job description. But, that's what frustrates me. I do all the annoying work, and reap none of the excellent benefits.
~Will
I will give it a try. It's worth another look, I'm sure.
Thanks for replying.
~Wx
Well, now that I have a debian team member in a thread that I am responsible for, I feel the need to quantify my response.
I mean no personal disrespect. None at all. To be honest, despite my tone in the previous post, I actually like debian once it's running. It's easy to install and upgrade, and I appreciate that. Having to deal with redhat day in and day out, I am so sick of RPM dependancy hell that I've pretty much washed my hands of RedHat, and apt-get (as well as emerge and similar tools) are fantastic and much appreciated.
It's just the installer that gets me.
And my problem is that I work at a webhosting company. I have to set debian up on machines fairly regularly. Not regularly enough to justify setting up a slipstreamed automated install, but regularly enough to be annoyed by it. And it frustrates me even more, because I'm usually setting it up on customer machines, so I get to do the grunt work, and then I don't even get to use the computer (to its credit, debian takes little "administration" time (read babysitting)). But that means I miss out on the parts of debian that I like. The saving grace of the install is the local 10/100 mbit mirror.
So, I'm disgruntled with debian's installer. I'm sick of telling it that, yes, I do in fact want a 2.4 kernel because I might want to do something with the lartc (linux advanced routing and traffic control) kernel stuff. I'm sick of having to open the damn case and install an 8139 card in order to download the drivers for the real network adaptor that redhat 9 picked up 2 years ago. Blah blah.
My conclusion has been that Debian is an excellent linux distro with a great philosophy of user control and choice which occasionally leaks over into some places where it's a nuisance.
But, having said that, thank you for your work.
~Will
How many hands does it take to reset it?
~Wx
I have seen quite a few distro reviews, and most of them start with either "the graphical installer is nice" or "there's no graphic installer!".
Debian doesn't currently have a pretty graphical installer...
*sigh*
When will people get this? It's not the lack of a "graphical installer" that keeps people from wanting to install debian. It's seriously not. I don't use debian, and mostly because of the installer, or issues that arise from the installer. But, hell, I installed redhat 6.0. It didn't have a graphical installer. I've installed gentoo on many boxes, from stage 1 to stage 3 installs, and that's certainly not graphical, and I actually enjoyed it. I've installed solaris 5.7, 8, and 9, on a variety of SPARCs and x86 boxen, and survived without blowing my top.
The thing people hate about the Debian installer is that it's annoying as all holy fuck.
Even if you choose the "install the standard system" options, it still asks you fourteen million questions, such that, after a few minutes, you just start accepting the default answer. It wants you to baby sit it, to set up a support group for it and walk it through in 12 steps. I can't even count the number of times it was all "read this page of information", and then, at the bottom, it tells me "i'm going ahead with this", and it's not like you have an option, so why the fuck read the page?
Not to mention the damn thing talks to you as if the computer is sentient! "I'm going to go ahead and try to detect your network", "Would you like me to install the development packages?", "I have a terrible itch right under PCI slot 3, can you scratch it with your tounge for me?"
I know the whole philosophy of debian is built around CHOICE and FREEDOM. But, at some points, just make a fucking decision for the consumer, will you? You're probably not going to alienate any zealots if you just go ahead and autodetect the network adaptor without creating a committee and waiting for someone to second the motion.
Everytime someone brings up the graphical installer vs. the world arguement, the test case is always Debian. It's unfair; Debian's installer sucks for completely autonomous reasons. If you'd like to see a relatively well-done command line installer, look at RedHat 6.x, or even the ansi installers for redhat 7.x, or Solaris' install, which is perfectly functional without being annoying.
~Will
Two cardinal rules of computer security:
1.) If it's plugged into the internet, it can be hacked.
2.) If they get to your hardware, you're fucked.
I'm still voting that it's an inside job.
~Will
I've always thought that the perfect murder weapon would be an icicle.
~Will
He purchased a Camaro fiberglass funny-car shell body,...
Ah, so it's not really a camero. Well, not anymore than Dale Jr.'s Chevy is a real chevy. It's formed and made to look vaguely like one on the outside. I was wondering why go through all the trouble to re-route everything in the car, but he probably didn't have to.
~Will
www.dealspree.com is good. The only problem is that they don't have a big community, so it's not updated that frequently.
Link.
Once, i saw a "2 free years of Maxim, click here". I was like, whatever. Clicked. Been getting maxim for ~18 months. Never paid cent 1.
~Will
Shouldn't people be arguing for guns which don't leave any traceable patterns?
I'd imagine if guns origionally were untraceable, as far as bullet markings, and a private industry wanted to add a watermark feature that scored the bullet such that it was identifiable, people would argue against it. It was a natural property found through forensic evidence.
Aside from which, dude, it's a murder scene versus a copied MP3. Jesus, it's not even in the same league.
~Will
Then Sun has not much left to offer but nice support plans.
And really, really nice 64bit hardware. But, you're right, that's going to have major competition in the years going forward.
I like sun. I think there will still be a niche market for them for quite some time (they're not dying, blah blah). But, I do think they need to innovate something. If they open solaris, it's going to keep a lot of people on solaris that might have switched and just been willing to deal with mediocre hardware, but it will also probably mean that a lot of stability could find its way into linux. So, yeah, you're right. This + something new and cool could be a good business move.
~Will
Move over Apple, move over BSD! There's a new game in town, and its name is SUN!
Come on, guys. Everyone's been talking about all these guy's deaths forever, but they're still here. There's a market for all of them.
~Will
here's one take on the presidential race.
~Will