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Sprint Routers Stolen; NYC Internet Outage Ensues
cbnet2004 writes "This story on eWEEK reports that late Sunday night a number of Sprint's DS-3 network cards were stolen from a Verizon colocation center at 38th St in Manhattan. Some customers apparently have service back but a number remain down -- it could be a while. The latest rumor on this situation is that some fiber optic cables were cut as well; this could put the affected customers out for days more."
This quote sort of caught me off-guard as I imagine some customers might disagree:
Fleckenstein said that the outage was "not major," and not large enough to require a report to the Federal Communications Commission.
The beginning of the article states:
A handful of corporate customers were left without e-mail and Internet access Monday after the theft of networking equipment from a New York City office late Sunday.
So, I would guess that the "handful" of corporate customers who lost service probably felt it was major to them. I understand the notion that it was not major in the sense of being more widespread, I just think his comment could have been worded better.
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This story's been on for a while and i see very few posts .... not even the usual fp BS .....
How many people were affected by this?
What kind of stupid moron would steal something like that. Probably some crackhead shmuck who didn't know what it was and figured it was worth a buck.
Who'd you sell it to? Dude will be busted. Someone walks up to you in an alley and say "wassup cuz you wanna buy a ds3 innernet?" it raises eyebrows.
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If it's so easy to steal these things, I hope nobody steal's my ISP'#353708534 ### NO CARRIER ###
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NIC thieves busted! Traced by MAC Address when the stolen components were plugged in.
Sounds like a disgruntled Verizon customer decided to take out his frustrations...in which case I can hardly blame him. It's unfortunate that others had to suffer, but a man can only get passed from call center to call center so many times before he snaps like a dried twig.
I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner.
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working at an atlanta colo center i can tell you: far too easily
Kind of like setting the password for your atmospheric shield to 1-2-3-4-5, then later finding out it's the same combination President Skroob uses for his luggage.
Kinda sad how something worth so much (both physically and in the revenue it generates) could be stolen so easily...sounds like my $15 a month virtual hosting is probably in a more secure data center... And by the way guys...I have access to a DS3...they really ARE fast...
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Much of the time, thefts at locales like this are often done by people with at least some inside knowledge of the site's security.
It'll be interesting to see where this investigation goes.
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...dumb crackheads with amazingly cheap DS-3 cards for selling on eBay.
I guess you could say the bigger the internet gets, the greater the chance it becomes for real life to come slapping it down. Somebody steals expansion cards from a CO = loss of service for 10's of 1000's of people. It's pretty interesting, almost reminds me of that Real Life DDoS schtuff.
in addition, no notice of the outage was posted to Sprint's Scheduled Maintenance and Outage page. Under FCC rules, phone carriers must report outages affecting more than 50,000 subscribers within two hours WHAT you are supposed to schedule your DS-3 cards being stolen 2 hours in advance
Everybody is so concerned with security online. It means nothing if somebody can just walk into your building and take your stuff.
You might be able to get one cheap.
You have to assume they are going to sell them, but even so, it seems like if they show up on Ebay... If you're the kind of person that can pay for a DS3 connection to begin with, it's doubtful you need to be stealing that kind of hardware.
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I wonder what they will get on the street for those parts. Or more importantly who would buy them/hire them to steal those. Or maybe they have their own plot for speeeeeeedy interent domination. Maybe they wanna mod their honda civic like the guys in the AOL Topspeed commercial. Hints?
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Talking about stealing cable....
"The positive side of crack is, if you're up at the right hour, you can get a DS-3 for $1.50."
I used to work in datacenters throughout Silicon Valley and let me tell you that unless they have hired some kick ass security guards than shit gets stolen all the time. Usually small stuff like PDAs, or the like. Once I heard of an entire rack being stolen when it was left outside, thank god they were empty. Security for these places should be like fortx knox, and the second the card was removed there should be of been a notification to the current on-site physical security detail. These systems will not work unless interopabrable measures are taken to make sure everyones eyes are wide open.
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1. An employee stole the stuff and cut the wires to make it look like a vandal.
2. A vandal actually did it and will soon sell the goods on ebay
3. Spring is making the whole thing up to cover up their incompetence
4. The entire world is on crack.
Personally, I would vote choice 1.
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...they want their routers back!!
Sure, I could have brought in a stick and poked at lots of other customer's gear, thru the chainlink cubicles, but I mean, I was signed in and on camera.
Check the log - when did the affected net go down and who was there at the time?
It has got to be a short list of visitors and guards or somebody is really stoopid.
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
Some dude just sold me some DS3 cardz for like $30 bucks a piece! But they wont fit in my computer PCI slot! Plus I cant find where my phone jack plugs into it!!@!!!!!@# Someone help me! Man, im gonna be able to download so much more stuff than my dialup connection!
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How hard is this one to figure out?
"late Sunday night a number of Sprint's DS-3 network cards were stolen from a Verizon colocation center at 38th St in Manhattan"
This can also be read:
"late Sunday night a number of MAJOR TELCO's DS-3 network cards were stolen from a RIVAL MAJOR TELCO colocation center at 38th St in Manhattan"
The reward money can be sent to my spam-obfuscated email addy.
Okay, to the person who posted this in response to my personal description of some of VeriSign's security...THIS is why!
For your security, this post has been encrypted with ROT-13, twice.
It all comes down to physical security in the end. You can have the most secure network, but usually anyone with physical access to the equipment can attack it in several ways. They can obviously steal it, or steal parts of it. Hot swap hard drives are great except when someone can run up to a server in an unsecured server closet and in a few seconds have all of a company's data in their hands. Obviously most hardware vendors also put password "backdoors" (think default Cisco configs) that allow you to override any passwords, or recover passwords from a serial port.
Most people spend way too much time on thinking of attacks from the Internet or employees, but usually don't look at someone who wants to sabotage the equipment. Computer rooms usually contain all of the proprietary data in a company, and most companies don't put that much effort into patrolling computer rooms for people who shouldn't be there. Executives should make sure that physical security is part of the I.T. plan from the beginning and not an afterthought.
I'm assuming in this case it was in a Verizon C.O. which are usually somewhat secure, but something like this could happen anywhere, computer sabotage I think will become more and more common in the future as businesses rely more and more on them.
being investigated by New York City Police and members of the joint terrorism task force
That's just great. Not that I don't hope they find the crooks to walked off with this stuff - but once the word "terrorism" pops up, all of the sudden I'm thinking Patriot Act.
These thieves might have gotten themselves some kick butt network hardware - but I bet they won't get themselves due process
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White polo, khakis, and a Notepad.
I've visited many many server rooms.
The outage affected area customers of Sprint Corp., including Ziff Davis Media Inc., the publisher of eWEEK.com.
No wonder eWeek was the first on the story, even though it took them a while to publish it.
The article mentioned that the fiber optics cables were cut, which is a great business opportunity for people who "join" those cables together.
100K or so a year for fixing fiber optic cables... I'm definently in the wrong field. Of course, those technicians have to be very precise or else you get refraction in the wire.
Yes! I listen to NYC Speedcore and do math at 3AM. I suggest you try it too.
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That's the best you could come up with? Yeesh. I've read it 4 times and I still don't get it.
How about "from the quick-put-the-dilithium-crystals-back-in-klingons- approaching dept" or "quick-find-the-hamster-the-lights-are-going-dim dept"?
Please feel free to reply with better department lines. Or an explanation about what the hell this whole bike/bike lock thing is about...
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Funniest damn thing I've read since Sasser.
Then again, I suppose it does take some network connectivity to build a Beowulf cluster...
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
My employer gets our voice service from a CLEC [not Sprint] over a PRI. Phoe service went out at some point overnight and was out until 12:30ish today.
When I called our CLEC to report the outage, they said that some cards were missing from the CO and that they had to replace and program them.
Whew....this is a great link to send to everyone at work. They always think I'm so full of shit when I blame everyone but myself.
At least for just a little while, "on line" will mean on the internet only, and not "in line".
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
I just couldn't stand those damn Microsoft ads comparing Windows and Linux...
Saying "I'll probably get modded down for this" in a post is the best way to get it modded up.
What if a terrorist had got in there and blew up all our data.
Then, if your hosting company isn't full of morons, you will restore it from the multiple backups.
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What if a terrorist had got in there and blew up all our data.
I think he/she would rather be blowing people up tbh.....
the customers who lost service won't be credited for the time they couldn't use.
Too bad, so sad, pay up $ucker!
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where i work, we have a pretty tight lockdown on the 500 desktops, servers and other devices on our network.
what kind of asshat can just walk in and steal something like this?
would it not be noticed right away?
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Imagine my surprise to see this up on slashdot. Last night around 10 PM mountain I saw a couple circuits go down in NYC. So being the enterprising person I am, I immediately decided that it must be a higher level service problem with our Provider. I call them up, tell them what's going on, and they (Qwest) complete my suspicions and confirm they are having a higher level outage problem. About 4 AM Mtn I called Qwest for an update. They informed me that they were still waiting access as the site was currently cordoned off as a police crime scene and they were still awaiting access. Wow... Cool... never heard that one before during the night shift.
A handful of customers down? Who the hell cares! This isn't even remotely newsworthy.
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Some customers apparently have service back but a number remain down -- it could be a while.
I feel sorry for that guy!
I don't think this is off-topic at all.
If the parent was trying to elliptically reference physical security at collo sites and what damage could be wrought at the hand of insider terrorists by knocking out a few BFRs, it's very much ON topic.
I had two routers go missing from a transport room, which should have less people in and out. My name and phone number was all over the cabinet and the routers.
To be fair, I hadn't connected them yet, so they were just in the cabinet not powered up, and I was going to bring them up the next time I returned to that location, which was going to be in about 3 months. All to often, in a production environment, when there is an emergency, anything not powered up is often considered fair game. I'm sure that the routers are still in use at the company, I just can't find them.
Most colo space in our company is pretty secure. You'd have a pretty tough time getting in if you weren't supposed to be there. Even if you did get in to the colo space, most customers keep the stuff that they manage themselves in locked cages, inside the already secured colo space. Perhaps it was Verizon employees just trying to screw over Sprint. Or perhaps Sprint didn't secure their stuff properly.
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Even though this is a Verizon location, the fact that it's Sprint equipment just makes it BEAUTIFUL in my eyes. Last time we had a problem with our Sprint OC-3, I called up the emergency number and got a voice prompt run around. Mind you, the POS interface was down/down with no sign of why it happened. Finally I got a "tech" who said the line was working normally. Then he said that he actually didn't know if it was up or down. At that point, I flipped out and told him to put a real tech on the line who could help me. Of course, that never happened, he instead forwarded it to their Layer 1/2 group. That whole experience left me with a horrible taste in my mouth. At a previous job, I had a mere T1 to Genuity. One time my boss needed a crossover cable and he took the one between the router and the firewall (can't make this crap up). Within mere minutes, Genuity called (this was the weekend mind you) and said "Ethernet0 is showing down, any idea why?" Let's see, Genuity is proactive with a T1, yet Sprint couldn't give a damn about an OC-3 POS line.
"Nature doesn't care how smart you are. You can still be wrong." - Richard Feynman
Forget their hosting company, look at their actual company...
- it's a question that ends with a period
- "had got in there"
- "blew up"
Security for these places should be like fortx knox, and the second the card was removed there should be of been a notification to the current on-site physical security detail.
:)
Ar....that remind me of my days in a research lab.
Security guards downstair would be 'notified' whenever someone is attempting to reboot those SGI workstations at night. The problem was that SGI hanged up quite often. When this happen, we should either move to another workstation, wait til tomorrow morning. Sometime we had no choice but to trouble those security guards when we ran out of unhanged SGI.
Initially those security guards were nice to us as we didn't do reboot very often - until someone decided to replace all those SGI workstations with NT Alpha. You imagine how irritating to have been called 2-4 times every night.
Soon after the SGI were replaced by NT Alpha, those reboot-alarms were removed for obvious reason.
Gap #1 - Physical Security of Critical Equipment
My point is, Seth was not special, there are many many places to off high end network gear.
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on ebay
Well... maybe not found it... but sure found a replacement!
I wonder if Sprint can afford it.
Hmm... I wonder if I just put myself, or them, on the FBI watch list...
Like usual the easiest way to hack a system, or steal it for that matter is just to walk in and sit down.. or in this case pick it up an walk out.
Sad how much crime there is now a days.
All you liberal beatnik whiners prattling on about "civil liberties" can just stuff it now. If President Bush had been allowed to install tracking chips in everyone's skulls like he'd asked back in 2002, this could never have happened.
how are they going to get the new Sasser virus?
In the mid 1990s parked my GTI in the West 12 th with out of state plates. I was staying at a friends young and naive. Only thing I left in the car was the "Matt pack" in the front seat and a small bag of dirty laundry out of site in the hatch. The Mattpack was a 5 pound lead acid battery with some electronics and LEDs on top for charging and current/voltage control.. About the size of a soda can but square and black. The top contained custom electronics job by Matt Kahn electicrical engineer extrodinare.
Who would want this? Its big its heavy and useless to anyone but me (It powered a flash for my camera.)
Stolen.
So were the dirty clothes.
Basically if your not carefull or tie stuff down in NY it will be stolen. I got over it but I still miss New York
One of those companies was our NY office ;) ;)
We lost our direct extension phone dialing ability to them (could use the full 10 numbers though) and they completely disappeared from our network. They still had regular internet connectivity through a 100mbit cogent line and were able to access other company resources through our other offices Citrix metaframe farms [note 1] with almost full capacity but we still recieved numerous calls at our office as only the road warriors were actually used to using that method for access. We have the licences, horsepower, redundancy, and data sharing ability for this exact reason, well actually in case of another terrorist attack but it works for this too
[note 1]
One thing stood out above all of this. About a year ago, a discussion at a network/desktop meeting lead to a disagreement but eventually a gadget VBS workstation AD weenie created a script on the pc's to "automatically" select connections to our fellow offices Citrix servers through the internal network if you were plugged into the internal network. It was to "eliminate" any http or https confusion as you technically did not need https if you were already on the company WAN, I guess the KISS approach was not a challenge. That was all fine and dandy until today when the route was down. They eventually pushed out an undo so you could connect either way but I wanted to call up and laugh and say I told ya so but I decided not too. What comes around goes around.
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That reminds of a story I once heard. Some thiefs hired a pickup truck and attempted to steal a high-voltage sub-transformer from the side of building. Of course, they had to cut through the copper wiring first. (Un)fortunately, they failed to consider the concept of switching the power off first, and got the shock of their lives.
where the BOFH works now?
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- Click Start -> Shut Down...
- Select "Shut down"
- Click OK
- Wait for machine to power down
- Unscrew case
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- Put card in large coat pocket
- Leave like nothing happened
Seriously, though, how does someone steal a network card (much less three) so important to the operations of a major colocation center? Wouldn't the cards, oh, I don't know, be in use?? If they weren't in use, they couldn't have been that critical, could they?"A great democracy must be progressive or it will soon cease to be a great democracy." --Theodore Roosevelt
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I do.
I've been to one of their data centers. I met the former black ops specialist who's responsible for building them up and locking them down. Take a router? Ha. You can't get in door of the datacenter, much less into the datacenter.
I'll go back to my own equipment when I need my 1000th redundant DB master. Then I think I can afford to build the redundantly powered, redundantly backed up, quadratically backboned, overly secured, continuously manned building that goes around important production servers. Funny how the facility is usually left out of the equation not only of the cost but of the requirements for 24x7 uptime.
I've seen one too many people lingering in the XO co-lo facility on Barranca in Irvine, CA (last time I was there, anyway) reading the ID tags and ip addresses of the servers in adjacent cages. No thanks. I think I can begin to keep out Internet intruders, but physical accessors always have an advantage (cloop.o or not).
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Did you know that MAE East, the biggest eastern coast interconnection point between backbones, is in the back of an underground parking garage, behind some wire fance? Have you ever seen pictures of these co-location spots? They don't put network equipment in a high security vault, they put them in the basement, in corners, and basically wherever there's place. If anything, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often.
I am now in the position to offer really cheap ds3 service in the NY area.......
Could those routers be substituted, at least temporarily, with clusters of cheap PCs running NetBSD? It could be not only cheaper but also faster. The only downside would be the administration and power usage. I think that this is a very interesting idea.
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Ahh.. I wonder if they will actually look on the other machines in the data center to make sure the theft wasn't just a cover for loading services/keyloggers/etc on the boxes through the data center... sort of a distraction with the fringe benefit of some sellable hardware.
meh
White polo, khakis, and a Notepad.
I know there's a joke about bringing pico, nano, vi, etc getting you farther than notepad in there somewhere....
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Ok - this is MY main pop - but im not a Sprint customer.
I mention this because I have some anecdotal evidence that shows that as secure as the mantrapped and biometrically scanned datacenters are, they really arnt.
Location: Exodus, New Jersey (its the datacenter that was in the big new building above the first path station in NJ - I just cannot remember the name of the building or the train station!)
Time: summer 1999
Issue: company needs to move 16 servers, 2 routers, a firewall, some switces and hubs out of the datacenter.
Procedure to enter: get signed in via biometric security and massive checkin procedure at front door. To get to the front door, you have to walk by the freight elevator, as well as a little wooden door with a twist lock on it.
How I got my kit out: I simply "borrowed" a hand cart, and walked out the back door (the little one I passed on the way to the checkin facility) The twist lock was on the inside, so I just un-locked it and walked out without anyone seeing me.
This made me feel REALLY secure.
Out of the hospital and back at my terminal -- glad to be living in Brooklyn.
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Manhattan,
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My business initally heard stolen equipment but we were later told that it was caused by damaged equipment from a "Verizon union employee".
I was not on the call but that type of information is VERY specific and there is no gray area or room for interpetation there. I assume this is either totally 100% completely false or someone else knows something more.
We just switched to Sprint.
The journey is better then the end.
The datacenters I've had gear located in have had great security. IN YOUR CAGE. They were very upfront about "if you leave your stuff laying around or your cage unlocked there's a good chance it'll be liberated."
Admittedly in these datacenters there were cameras everywhere..
And of course there are stupid people in these places -- like the folks (not from our company) that were wandering around and wondered "What does this Emergency Shutoff Button on this big power unit do?" Shut off a big portion of the datacenter. The result being certain folks permanently banned and better warnings/protection around the EPO buttons. (admittedly that's a tough one -- 'cause when you need to turn it off you REALLY don't want to waste time..)
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There shouldnt be ANY servers in this location. Infact, if a Terrorist got in there and blew it up, most of the businesses between 28th street and 48th street in manhattan could potentially lose their network connectivity. This is VERY serious.
This was an inside job. Probably Verizon engineers that were pissed off at Sprint for doing something "Non-Union". I remember once we had 4 Verizon PRIs in a building (big one in NY). Verizon was telling us we needed to "BUY" a new riser in the building because there was no capacity. Their price? $60,000.00 My tech guys and I went down to the Verizon closet at 4:30PM on Friday night (because we all know Verizon stops working at 4pm. The PRIs were provisioned alright.. We just flicked a switch on each interface card and Low and Behold! All the PRIs came up! Man.. were they pissed on Monday. The only way this could have happened was IF someone from the CO got pissed at SPRINT. Fucking Unions...
My favorite one at my school was two people walked into a 'secure lab' - you needed an access card to enter into the room. The door was propped open to let some air in. They walked into the back room, picked up two servers, put it on a cart and left.
This happened when the lab was completely full in the middle of the day.
Not just telcos, but government departments too, need to take their physical security more seriously. Anyone recall Australian Customs having some mainframes stolen late last year?
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My spidey sense tells me that there are four really cheap DS3 cards to be had on eBay. Gotta go!
-R
SODIMMM I can't see 'em!!!!! Ahahhahahaha
Verizon has more unmanned facilities (at least at night) than you can shake a stick at. As a nocster for a regional ISP, I can tell you - when a circuit goes down at night, if the testing and troubleshooting w/ Vz requires access to a CO, fugetaboutit till daytime - you can escalate to hell and back, but ain't nothing happening (for emergencies, their on-call techs typically don't respond to pages). Compounding the problem, most of our other circuit providers have to use Vz for the last mile 'tail' circuit.
FP!! Wtf though is up with these ungodly ping times here in NY.
The pirates who wanted more bandwidth have landed in New York!
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The physical security is usually pretty good. About on par with a normal Fortune 500 company, where you scan into areas that you have a reason to be in. The switch room is usually a little harder to get in, especially since 9/11. At Nextel, they actually hired armed guards for a short while when we almost hired an alleged Felon. A competitors security guard recognized him and tipped off our security. Turns out he was supposedly part of a crew that carted off entire racks of telecom equipment.
Getting back on topic. The cards sound like they are the DS3 that pop into a larger fiber demark, like an OC12, 48 or 192. The cards are pretty small and just have coax-looking DS3 plugs on the front (in, out, and monitor). These aren't cards you could really ever use anywhere else. It almost sounds like someone accidentally yanked the wrong cards during maintenence. Although, most telecoms are very religious about not doing maint during the day (if the outage started at night, tho, I'd say it was a switch tech who screwed up).
The reason I'd assert this is the theft was too small to be of any other value. Three DS3 cards aren't going to fetch much, and they're tainted goods. If you're malicious, you're not going to just grab 3. If you're damaging a competitor, grabbing 3 cards is somewhat silly. We commonly have a backhaul path in preparation for things such as this. For example, when I worked at Nextel a fiber dig broke a couple DS3s we had going through PacBell. Within 4 or 5 hours, we swung the traffic over to other DS3s that bypassed the carrier and area with the break.
On a side note, it was also an eye opener that the "Protected, Redundant" Ring-topology that we were paying extra for was not being provided by the Telco. Let's just say there were some very colorful conversations going on between companies at the VP level.
I wish the article had indicated how secure the area was where the cards were stolen
If people can steal routers from australian airport customs, this should be easy enough.
Mark my words, someone is going to be in deep shit for this.
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If sprint bids high, they can have it back in 20 hours.
It's off topic in as much that terrorists are NOT going to be knocking out BFRs.
Terrorists like killing people.
Removing some geek's access to pr0n for a few hours is hardly going to make targetting these things worthwhile...
here you go:
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that makes no sense at all.
why would a guard care if a machine booted? If it's booting, then it's still in the building and it's connected to the net.
They should care if it's not pingable for a minute or two maybe.
But even then, a security camera would be much more effective.
all in all, I don't believe your story happened quite the way you think. sorry.
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So you're outage was just the normal incompatance then?
You mean something like that final uber-plan from 'Fight-Club'?
I suppose you wouldn't need to take down the entire building to take out all the credit information...
I suppose those companies have a bit more security than average, though...
Sig currently under construction. Mind the gap....
Like most/all Verizon Central Offices, security is via a keycard. If your keycard does not automatically grant you entry to the C.O., you must be manually allowed in by a guard. Each "guest" must sign in.
38th Street C.O. is just about the highest trafficked C.O. in the world, in terms of Frame Terminations and the like. Being in Central Manhattan, near one of the major CoLoc Hotels nearby, only increases the data throughput on all the eqpt therein.
Vandalism is most likely, performed by another company's techs.
Also- when they say it's not considered a "major" failure, it's b/c Verizon is strictly governed by the PSC's guidelines as to what constitutes "major". These guidelines provide the framework that determines how Verizon (and others) are/can be fined each year with respect to how many/long outages.
Most of the colo's in the central offices I work in are used by many CLECs and IXCs... Joe Schmoe from Podunk Telecom would have very little trouble yanking a few OC-48 cards from a competitor, let alone DS3's.
Cute -- it wasn't major, but they called in the terrorism task force anyway. That way they can overcharge the hell out of whoever they turn up. And, since the USA PARROT ACT specifies that, if an allegation of being "connected to a terrorism investigation" is made, wiretap requests have to be presented to a judge, but the "judge will sign" them, so there's no meaningful court supervision. "Get your camo on, boys -- we're going fishing".
Not sure about SGI, but most standard UNIX machines can be rooted if you can get a custom boot floppy to boot so you can access the filesystem. NT is more difficult to compromise this way due to its convoluted/security-by-obscurity NTFS. That is not to say that NT is more secure, merely that this particular method is less useful.
I lived in an apartment complex where a small company was offering broadband internet access (circa 1998). Oddly, the day after they installed several grand in upgraded equipment...some jerk off broke into the telephone room and liberated the new routers. As the thief obviously knew the install dates and what to take, they figured it was either an employee or person in the supply chain.
The tiny company went out of business a few monthes later.
It is sad that we can't just put things in locked rooms and call it good. Thievery like this is a major small business killer.
My shit used to get stolen at Above.net in Tysons Corner all the time. Never machines or anything but like wierd stuff. Network patch cables, power cables. Someone even stole my "llama crossing sign".
Another excellent karma-whoring troll. I especially enjoyed the "post 9/11" and terrorist bits. Keep up the good work. Give my regards to the rest of GNAA.
We used to have a rack in a very prominent facility with lots of excellent security measures.
Unfortunately every one of these security measures could be easily bypassed.
The security guards didn't even ask us any questions or look at our ID when we moved our gear out of there. I'm glad we did!
All your DS-3 cards belong to us.
-tom
The cops still tell people to check the local pawn shops. How can pawn shops compete with eBay? Here are some Newly listed today DS3 cards
Sprint uses a lot of Nortel equipment. So does someone have a DMS-100 at their house that needed a couple of cards?
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The article indicates an anti-terrorism task force was investigating. How likely is this?
Are we to believe that an al Qaeda sleeper cell was activated to inconvenience Midtown? Perhaps a domestic militia group was getting into the colo business.
One of the worst reactions we have had from Sept. 11 is to immediately try and associate everything with terrorism. Next thing you know, MSNBC will have security cam footage and speculating on what happened like it was the damn Zapruder film....
Vixie gives it an allow ACL.
Cisco's "Packet" magazine calls it "this season's most secure flick".
NANOG calls it "an interface to remember".
(ignore the creative liberties. I was out of ways to tie things together...)
The butler always does it.
Never attribute to stupidity what can be construed as a monopoly preservation tactic.
Internet Outage Ensues? Wow. I guess I've underestimated the amount of Slashdot/Fark crossover that's been happening recently.
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it worries me that people can just roll in there and steel our equipment
I don't need to worry about that because most of my equipment is steel already. Except my Powerbook, which is aluminum.
What if a terrorist had got in there and blew up all our data.
That would be terrible. I remember one time when I spilled all of my data on the floor. I was cleaning it up for days; it's almost impossible to get data out of a carpet once it dries!
For terrorists this would be a major blow to interest banking which they so abbhor.
I'm sure Osama bin Laden is at this very moment plotting to destroy those infidel bankers that are keeping his billions secure and earning him a nice revenue stream through his investments.
Tech one. Shit its got to be the net card.
Tech two. Where the hell we gonna get one at this hour.
Tech one. I aint waiting here all night to get the thing online again.
Tech two. Hey let me check one of those boxes over ther.....
This gives a whole new meaning to the concept of "closing the backdoors to your network". :)
I would write something, but unfortunately I live in NYC and can't get online to make a comment right now.
:(
Sucks...
ebay has plenty
First off, let me just say that the one thing telcos get right is engineering for uptime and reliability. When companies talk about "dial tone" reliability, there's a reason for it. Think about it, when was the last time your phone stopped working (assuming you're still with a Baby Bell for local calls)? They have engineered triple redundancy for power for the station:
1. Two independent power feeds from separate substations each running at 50% with a crossover switch. If one station goes down, the other flips to 100% draw with no downtime.
2. Failing that, 2 diesel powered generators with enough fuel to run the CO for 3 weeks without interruption.
3. Failing that, enough lead acid batteries to run the entire station for 13 hours. Some of those dated back to the 60s, but were maintained in pristine condition.
Now, the one thing I will say is that co-located equipment was treated like it was coated in anthrax. It was maintained in a separate cage that could not be accessed from the main building. All co-located equipment was accessed from a separate street level entry that only had a single door and no monitoring. So if the stolen equipment was from Sprint in a Verizon CO, odds are that no one from Verizon was even watching it. (This was back when the 94 telecom bill was just coming into effect, so all of these rules were new...)
For the main building, we had to be escorted at all times, and the engineer we were with got antsy if we bumped against any of the equipment (including some great old magnetic physical switches that were still in use for some old lines). But I wasn't too impressed with the overall security. Some locked doors and a security guard but nothing fancy. That said, if any of Verizon's equipment had broken/shut down I'll guarantee that they have an immediate monitoring/notification system.
NT is more difficult to compromise this way due to its convoluted/security-by-obscurity NTFS Not really, all you need is a WinNT boot floppy with a few utils, none of the data is even encrypted.
Say bad words about my book, in cold oatmeal, or I shall sue!
Root disk to ass-raping idiot
The latest rumor on this situation is that some fiber optic cables were cut...
Does this finally show that hackers and crackers are the same thing?
FreeSpeech.org
Who'd you sell it to? A lot of this sort of stuff ends up in third-world countries where some mainstream companies are much less likely to care where stuff comes from.
... I need to change the combination for my luggage!
"It's the smell! If there is such a thing." Agent Smith - The Matrix
"In this post 9/11 era I would have expected security to be tighter. What if a terrorist had got in there and blew up all our data."
Yeah, because we all know that's their real target.
Forget the military from various countries in Iraq, forget the tourist spots in South East Asia, forget the high profile meetings where high-ranking representatives will be attending, and forget world-famous landmarks.
Forget them all because we all know the intelligence dossiers have been saying that the terrorists plan to break into your company, steal some equipment, and blow up your data.
What I meant is that it is harder to reset the root/admin password and/or install keyboard sniffers etc. And there is no such thing as a NT boot floppy, you mean a set of 4 uber-hacked disks at the minimum to get some sort of command prompt. NT is famous for being a royal PITA to repair from floppies, that is why there are bootable Linux CDs with (partial) NTFS support on them so you can at least try. Most people just pull hard-drives out and stick them into another running NT box in order to access them. In short, it is way more convoluted then a single floppy you can use to achieve that goal on most UNIX machines.
Sprint's DS-3 network cards were stolen from a Verizon colocation center at 38th St in Manhattan.
38th and what??? My dry cleaners...where I get my assortment of workmen's - varying professions - overalls...done is on 36th and 3rd...wanna play "name that contractor"?
Quod scripsi, scripsi.
It's hard to imagine anybody would be so stupid, but then, it wouldn't be the first time.
Well, since it's already been established that it was Sprint and Verizon that got pwned...
--
"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
In the place I used to work, the data center was right next to the help desk. (I worked in the help desk)
I think that the datacenter was physically more secure than the actual systems in there. I mean, it was ID Access at all doors (you had to have your card specifically programmed for those doors) and the only people with keys was the head operator, the networking people, the CIO and her administrative assistants (who had the master building keys in their office)
We actually had problems getting in there ourselves (we printed to a printer in the data center for some reason and not the printer in the office that we were attached to where the manager/analyst were at). Ok,, Our problem was mostly faulty equipment (our card reader sucked!) but the entire thing is still between 2 locked doors in most spots.
-A
Sorry 'bout that. Was in the wrong cage.
Assume I was drunk when I posted this.
chntpasswd + windows PE = Done & Done. :-)
If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
Sure they were used by Sprint to achieve the Internet2 Land Speed Record (see this).
Uh, yeah, but these are SGI machines. IRIX was infamous for being insecure. If I wanted root on an IRIX box, I could think of better ways than a boot floppy.
#naabhaprzrag, #sverubfr-000, #agi-fcbafberq, negvpyr[pynff*=' negvpyr-ary-'] { qvfcynl: abar !vzcbegnag; }
Well, thats a bootable CD not a floppy.
This whole disucssion however is about splitting hair since one way or the other the only method to secure those boxes was to prevent any sort of booting from floppies or CDs in hardware.
I still say that repairing/hacking NT is more pain then a UNIX box since to get something Windows-like to boot that is able to recognize normal hadware requires much more then a floppy, but as I said, its an academic discussion.
My vote goes to the disgrundled FORMER Verizon customer. Nothing beats waiting for 6 hours on sunday morning (starting at midnight) for the telco to simply cross connect circuits which were provisioned WEEKS in advanced.
Note: This was my situation less than 48 hours ago. Mind you I had full access to the ds3 niu's, and was VERY tempted to get the issue escalated.
IT'S NOT MY FUCKING CSU's YOU DUMB SHITS?
Thanks.
Dude, where's my card?
I'm just borrowing them. I'm going to return them, I swear.
Kind of like Germany in the 1920-1930s...
Most PC:s/workstations can disable booting from removable media, have password access to the setup menu, and a physically locked case (so you can't connect other harddrives, or reset the password). If you don't do this, there's really no way to stop people from booting whatever they want, unless they actually break into the box (which could have some kind of alarm). And for any major OS (including Windows NT, and most *nix-likes), there are bootable CD's/floppies with grandma-simple tools to steal or set passwords.
There are 010 kinds of people. Those who understand octal, those who don't, and 06 other kinds of morons.
H4x0r5 really DID stoeled their MEGAHURTZ!!11!
--- I'm going sane in a crazy world.
Well we even had biometric scans, but it all came down to the people that let people in the building and go past those measures. It was the dot com era, every salesman and his brother brought chicks down there to show off the servers. I was not hallucinating during those years, was I?
An Education is the Font of All Liberty
then again, the MS-DOS editor (no, not edlin) was better than notepad too.
Although I never quite understood why you needed qbasic.exe to use it.
Be wary of any facts that confirm your opinion.
Better question...
Are the theives just plain stupid?
Network cards have MAC addresses.
Anyone caught plugging them in will
be caught red-handed.
WireHead
The previous message was created with 100% recycled words.
However SGI machines aren't PCs and may not provide any means of disabling the removable media.
Config BIOS: Douptful you'll find this ability on a machine that is nither a PC nore inspired by PC design.
Unplug floppy: Hardware fault drive not responding.
Typical design includes a full hardware dignostic before trying to boot anything.
Don't want to boot on a computer experencing malfuctions.
(Even more so when the costummer has to come to you for repacement parts)
Floppy insert lock: To obveous.
Some times you'll never convence a burrocrat that a $15 solution will work better than a $100 solution.
This would go dubble for any lab that wouldn't even THINK of trying to figure out what's crashing the SGIs (Or Alphas) in the first place.
I don't actually exist.
This was back in 1999 or 2000. Back when I worked for Primenet, which later become GlobalCenter, then Frontier... bla bla bla, then Global Crossing, they had a blackout in Michigan. When they sent a tech out to check it, they found that the entire router was gone! It was a 7200VXR with a couple of DS1s and DS3s. Those customers were down for about 60 hours while a new router was purchased and shipped out. The POP was owned by someone else, and they didn't have a camera or recorded check-in, so we have no idea who did it. Insurance paid for the router.
Crackheads? It's not like it's a sparkplug
Don't laugh... I bought an Aegis cruiser from a street vender just last year. I know it's just a cheep Korean knockoff, but it still looks nice, goes really fast, and can blow up small fishing boats.
assuming you could get to them. where does it say these sgi boxes were on the 'net?
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
What what I've read we seam to be dealing with an unmanned data center.
What should be done is add nothing more complex than automated net camras.
Program them to automaticly feed all motion into a server in a manned (and guarded) data center.
Put a minnor firewall between the two (just one that says it can only send data to ONE box and NOBODY talks to it..)
Then someone walks into the data center and SMILE!!!
Make sure the camra is dual mode.. night vision and color.
Or if you can only get em in color (in fact maybe this is a better idea) add motion detection flood lamps.
Now it's SMILE while your blind and have no choice but to stand there and let the camra upload your picture to the data center.
The receaving server verifys the repair/service scedual and if nobody should be there a random on staff security guy is given the pritty picture.
From there they can send down police or security staff.
Security staff.. Becouse I know in a few weeks after this is installed SOMEBODY is going to do a service call with out checking in or someone is going to forget to enter someones repair scedual.
I'm also sure service staff are going to stock up on sunglasses and learn to open doors with eyes closed.
I don't actually exist.
It's all about acting like you're supposed to be doing what you're doing. Act like you own the place, and nobody will say a thing to you.
Ethernet cards have MAC addresses. That is a subset of "network cards" and does not include the DS-3 interface cards that the article is about.
And, of course, even if it did, MAC addresses are only visible to someone on the same side of a router as the card in question.
"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- GBS
We're talking about Sprint. This is no profit in a Sprint equation.
The journey is better then the end.
At our old co-lo, the server room had a door directly out to the city streets and no guards.
At our new place, there is a guard. We only get in with a special picture id card which we deposit in a drawer from the outside, then we get in through a scanning device(think plastic tube with 2 doors) and when we get in, we get another ID which only gives us access to doors inside and not outside. plus all doors are monitored with cameras at all times. all racks are monitored by cameras which records any activity.
I am happy we switched co-lo.
With physical access to the system I can do anything.
Locked case? Pfft. Ever hear of a little thing called a drill? If not, how about a lockpick?
Password to BIOS setup? Remember, the case is open, so all I need to do is shut down, bridge the necessary contacts, then welcome to NT land.
After that the bootable CDs, etc. come into play. Without physical security, you have no security at all. Everything else is only going to stop someone with enough skills to be a script kiddie. And let me tell you, those kiddies, they're fierce into those CD-Rs, yo.
That works with most women too, you know...
Fortunately, Sprint provides online outage reporting.
Ask me about my vow of silence!
I was watching TV last night and saw a new pepsi commercial about the Mars rover. The 3rd shift geeks are asleep while one guy is enjoying his pepsi while he watches the rover beep! beep! along at 2 inches/sec. While he's slugging it down, all of a sudden you hear air wrenches going off. When he looks back at the screen, you see all six tires on the mars rover are stolen with the martians running off in the distance with the tires. I'm waiting for the new ET commercial so that when they are trying to call home, the DirectTV satellite dish and set top box are stolen and he gets a disconnection signal!
Hmmmm, this gives new meaning to the story about "open source routers a threat". I guess the thieves thought "open-source" mean't free as in beer!
When I loaded up the page, the advertisement frame that was displayed inline with the page was blank. ;-)
I like that!
My personal favorite is "They can never pay me less than I can work." I forget where I picked that up, but I think it was (no +5 Funny intended) a catchphrase from Soviet Russia, said of incentiveless makework jobs.
they'll whine that it's terrorism.
why don't you idiots go outside or something while you wait for your connection to be restored....
Windows 98 Second Edition boot disk is by far the best boot disk you will ever find. It reads FAT32 and NTFS. It even reads your cdrom. It is one floppy disk. One day, I hope to combine my DNA with this disk in a gruesome mateing of man and removeable media.
bit trollent
Sprint's gonna have to get some more routers. Quick, someone open another box of Post Toasties. I'm honestly surprised that anyone even noticed a difference in their performance. Every time I have network connectivity troubles, it seems like the culprit is some Sprint router dropping my packets on the floor.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Actually, NT is equally trivial to compromise. NTFS is not rocket science. Using a Linux-based rescue disk, I've done things like reset administrator passwords and re-enable local administrator access on boxes that people have locked themselves out of.
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Not to sound stupid here, but I believe you can change MAC addresses. My school makes me report my mac address to plug in my computer, so I just swapped MAC's between my little linksys router and my desktop after I reported it, and then put all my equipment behind the router.
NT is more difficult to compromise this way due to its convoluted/security-by-obscurity NTFS.
Not really! I've seen CD images that when booted will automatically change the admin password in a few seconds (plus boot time of course).
... $5 wiresnips were useless.
where i work security guards arent notified of nothing other than unauthorized visitors entering into the doors. and we monitor for environmental alarms aka door opens, door closes, temp rises, temp lowers, power failures etc etc. obiously sprint wasn't monitoring very well because here at my noc when a door opens were on the phone unless its scheduled maitenance.
and when an active card is pulled from a shelf we see alarms immediately. i dont think sprint is keeping a good eye on things in NY
Well, if not a PC, I would at least consider it a _workstation_. And at least the admins setting the stuff up, should be able to access the "BIOS setup" (or something equivalent, which I just assume it has somewhere). You can be sure that anyone trying to hack it will know how too.
If there's no way of "logically" disabling booting from floppies (or other removable media), you'll have to disable it physically. Unplug/remove it, or fill it with plastic padding (my favourite for dealing with those 3½" plastic pieces of hell).
Or just use one of those locks. Of course it's obvious that it's there, but it works. It can't easily be removed without destroying the floppy drive, which means that you still can't access the floppy, which is the whole point.
There are 010 kinds of people. Those who understand octal, those who don't, and 06 other kinds of morons.
That bugs me more than people bringing down the Internet via theft...
sujal
politics, food, music, life: FatMixx
They were (4) DS-3 modules, which are not cheap.
What's more, they were probably not hot-swap parts. I wonder if the bandits had the courtesy of shutting down the router before making off with the DS-3 cards.
I certainly hope Verizon has to pay Sprint for the loss, both the replacement cost of the cards, and any costs incurred by Sprint associated with the customers affected by the outage.
For those that would die defending it, Freedom
has a sweet taste that the protected will never know.
There are no MAC addresses on serial connections...
For those that would die defending it, Freedom
has a sweet taste that the protected will never know.
'Spirit rover stolen'?
...
Damn martian punks
Although I never quite understood why you needed qbasic.exe to use it.
edit.exe just loaded qbasic.exe and disabled the interpreter. Also, help.exe did the same, but had some extra functionality (hyperlinks!)
toresbe
The guest account was enabled on SGI machines. You could just telnet localhost and and you'd be r00t.
toresbe
Right.
Now go back in time to when NT Alpha first came out. Where is your magic Linux-based rescue disk now? I remember when the first of those came out.
Just because its trivial now does not mean it was trivial then.
- sarcasm is just one more service we offer -
Anyway, the article mentioned it, and I thought it to be a useful comparison. Once again, the problem doesn't seem to be IT, but poor preparedness on the business end of things that allowed this outage to occur.
Why?
Again ... assuming you could get to them ... what about those guards?
; -- the corruption of government starts with its secrets. a truly free people keep no secrets. --
> > Act like you own the place, and nobody will say a thing to you.
> That works with most women too, you know...
I think you have that backwards... Act like you own the place & women flock to you for their ritual beatings. Act respectful and don't steal, they ignore you.
Patriot Act Suppresses News Of Challenge to Patriot Act
Oh, man, that Onion. Their stories are always such a hoot. I've got to go check out the original, see if they've got a picture to go with it.
Oh, crap.
I'm outta here.
Stressed? Me? Of course not. Stress is what a rubber band feels before it breaks, silly.
Well if they weren't hot-swap parts and they didn't switch off the router then those hot parts might not be that hot ... :)
Well, they were actually smaller machines, both fit on a cart. I remember the story and they weren't big iron in the sense that they took up a whole room, more in the software they run (I think they were smaller AS/400s or something similar).
Derek
Don't Panic...
Dunno about NT Alpha, but not long after NT x86 was out, we had 4 floppy disks that'd boot you to a NT command line where you could reset passwords and generally mess around with the entire FS unauthenticated. I'm sure the same could have been done for NT Alpha (it was after all generated using the NT install disk)
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I beat Level 3. The end guy was hard.
I keep trying to pick fights, but I can't shake this Excellent karma.
Any telco grade network gear will support hot-swaps. In fact, 99% of the stuff in a telco co-lo is hot-swapable[*] and redundant... including the power plant.
[*] Cisco definition: you don't have to turn the power off to swap cards. The router may require a reload (read: "it will crash") afterwards. (There have been thousands of bugs w.r.t. "OIR".)
You mean the ones in the basement, waiting for the reboot alarm to go off?
toresbe
(was I? think about it)
Jeepers...
That can be a boot floppy too.
On a NT/2000/2003 box, PDC/AD-PDC etc, I can get complete root access in less than 10 minutes, provided I can boot from CD/floppy. (If the file system is encrypted, then no go, but I suspect that is very rare.)
Sure NT/2000 can be a pain to *fix* if the filesystem trashes a bunch of things. But we're talking about a system that is functioning properly.
And with the shatter exploits, priviledged escalation is trivial on a Win box.
Frankly, for most boxes, local access is game over, but for Win boxes, it's pretty dang easy. Just do a google search for "NT reset password" - the first link is a free-ware utility that will do it easily for you. Ironically, it uses Linux and Linux drivers to do it for you...
Cheers,
Greg
Yaknow... for someone who claims to be a wirehead, you know shit about wires. Why don't you go back to your mom and tell her that you need to return your computer to BestBuy. DS-3 cards are part of the serial world, one in which you don't have a toe-hold, let alone a single reason to open your mouth. Either read the article, the google for terms that are unfamiliar before posting or just save us all the bloody torment and just don't post. Discussions on /. are already approaching spam-like signal to noise ratios - don't be part of the problem, be part of the solution.
My friend in Poland gets his internet cut every now and then.
The reason, people steel the cables and sell them on the black market.
hmm... for fun I enjoy launching DDoS attacks against 127.87.42.5
Security was a HUGE problem, too, because often techs working on the site would leave that cellar door open, and stuff would "wander." There was a series of attempted thefts that were done by someone who probably didn't know what the equipment actually was, because cables and live power cords would be cut by what we think were shears or boltcutters. $50 CRT terminals would be stolen, and the $30,000 router it was connected to would be left behind, the serial cable just dangling from a cut cord.
You write nothing worth reading and you suck any male that will drop their pants.
No further comment needed.
You know, like the commercial...
I could be wrong, but I assumed that the alarm went off when power to the SGI was turned off. That way the gaurd would know if someone unplugged one in order to physically remove it from the building. I doubt there is much that the security gaurd could have done to prevent it from being rooted anyways.
They weren't routers, they were full on mainframes.
The things Verizon will do to get you to come back.
You had a woman as CIO! You sir are a pussy bitch. Women should be at home.