This definitely is fishy to me. The article says they declined to renew the Lotus contract, but not why. I thought Notes had a good reputation for its groupware features. If the guy didn't think so, why didn't he go to Lotus and denounce them as he is Microsoft?
Also, if they declined the Lotus contract last year, then they must have investigated and prototyped a bunch of systems to replace it with. With an $88b budget, surely they must have realised that Microsofts' products didn't suit them before they bought into them? If not, why not?
Oh and which shareware products does he mean? He can't make such an accusation without backing up the statement. I think it's all sour grapes. I think he was sold by Microsoft's ad-men, bought into their software and then got burnt when the solution didn't work. Now he's trying to protect his arse by blaming MS. If not, prove me wrong, but without such a blanket statement.
Hahaha - mark this up as funny! We've been duped all along! Jon Katz doesn't exist - ALL of "its" postings were written by a relative of Eliza! I knew a normal human being couldn't spout as much crap as Katz!! Nice one weave!:)
I cant see what God has to do with Slashdot, but maybe he's one of the main moderators. Who knows. FWIW - I never read Katz, as I find his writing to be mostly irrelevant to why I read Slashdot. It seems to me that he's finally found a soap-box on which he can rant and rave about how Geeks have a hard time in life, and how he's finally found justification for his own existence. Katz is irrelevant. He will be discarded....:P
Ignoring the technical issues of whether this would be possible, I would love to see it on my PC. I want to buy some kind of mac machine, but I've spent too much on my Windows PC over the past year to justify, and heck what would I need another PC for anyway? Bring it on!
Awww crap! The minute after I submitted that post above, M12 started to crash and has done so consistently since then. I take back everything I wrote above - M12 is a definite improvement but it still crashes A LOT!!!
I was about to say I'm pleasantly surprised, but M12 turned the tables and bit me on the nose. I am impressed so far (on Win98). The speed is good, initial stablity seems good. It seems much less erratic at loading sites (or not as the case was). My main complaint sofar is the interface - I'm trying to tab between text boxes to enter my nick and password and this text, but it didnt work properly. It tabbed away somewhere completely unexpected on the page, and wouldnt go to the correct box that I wanted to tab to. Also, selecting text (mainly in the address terxt box at the top) doesnt seem 100% correct. If I try to select the whole address to delete it, it doesnt alwas select all the text - similar to early releases of KDE's KFM Browser. Is Mozilla using its own widgets? Apart from that, Im initially happy. Running it for a longer period will be more indicative of its true quality, but that will take time. I may try to use M12 as my main browser for a while.
Personally I think Alan would quit if he were pressured into a situtation that was for the greater good of Redhat, and to the detrement of Linux. Let's face it, he wouldn't be short of job offers.
When you consider how much of your personal information is handed around throughout the business world (postal mailing lists, credit cards), why are you worrying so much about this? Let me ask you people. Have you ever used your credit card over the internet? Or over the phone for that matter? If you have, how do you know what happens behind the scenes with your personal information? You don't. What are you worrying about? "Sure, you can store cookies on my hard-disk, you can track the kinds of CDs I buy at cdnow.com, but don't you dare send my video card type to Id you bastards!"
It really annoys me when people get all excited about the theming capabilities of their software. I wish they wouldn't put such an emphasis on theming! Give me a leaner, meaner system without theming anyday!
Exactly my friend. I could be cynical and say "Only in america" (hopefully I'm quoting from the Simpsons correctly as I intend), but I'd rather say "What is this world coming to?". If he gets 15 months for this, I wonder what this would scale a prison sentence for murder up to? 50 years? Something more realistic and reasonable. Despite all the advertising in the UK, crime does pay, so why the hell am I being a good, honest citizen?? This makes the concepts of justice and judicial systems a farce IMHO.
Whenever anyone uses the phrases "feature-rich" or "rich" I automatically think "bloatware". I'd ask if such rich feature are required? Or are the KDE team following the same downward slide that Microsoft are on - feature creep and eye-candy over a solid, sleek core system.
I "KDE" as well, but I do think they've gone for the Windows feel to attract that audience. I don't think they've succeeded. THe interface just isn't slick, whilst Windows is. (Yes Windows is crap though, but thats not the issue). To me, KDE just doesn't "feel" right when I use it. I also hate the icons with a passion. They are ugly as sin, and should be replaced by an artist, and not a programmer. The question is can they improve on Windows? What would it take to do this?
.. and a room full of my good friends any day over the social delight that is the net. Oh an give me my girlfriend in bed any day over anyone on IRC. The net is a tool, and nothing more to me.
Maybe I'm expecting too much, but I'm very disappointed. Sometimes when I typed a new URL it would claim to have loaded the new page, but nothing new was displayed. I went to www.gamespot.com and what it displayed was a mess. It seemed very erratic; thats the best word I can use to describe it. I wouldn't be trumpeting Mozilla as the next big thing in browsers judging on what I've seen while playing with it. Which is a shame, as I want it to succeed. Back to Netscape 4.7!
From what I hear, MDs are huge in Japan. The impression I got was that CDs are history over there, while MDs are everywhere. I was also told that CDs were huge in Japan while North America was still using tapes. Take from that what you will....
Vapourware!! I'll believe it when I see it! Mind you, I read some of the articles and my brain couldn't handle it, and BOSDed on me. "For those with no sense of humour, this is a public joke announcement. Stop it!! This is far too silly!!!"
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This definitely is fishy to me. The article says they declined to renew the Lotus contract, but not why. I thought Notes had a good reputation for its groupware features. If the guy didn't think so, why didn't he go to Lotus and denounce them as he is Microsoft?
Also, if they declined the Lotus contract last year, then they must have investigated and prototyped a bunch of systems to replace it with. With an $88b budget, surely they must have realised that Microsofts' products didn't suit them before they bought into them? If not, why not?
Oh and which shareware products does he mean? He can't make such an accusation without backing up the statement. I think it's all sour grapes. I think he was sold by Microsoft's ad-men, bought into their software and then got burnt when the solution didn't work. Now he's trying to protect his arse by blaming MS. If not, prove me wrong, but without such a blanket statement.
Hahaha - mark this up as funny! We've been duped all along! Jon Katz doesn't exist - ALL of "its" postings were written by a relative of Eliza! I knew a normal human being couldn't spout as much crap as Katz!! Nice one weave! :)
I cant see what God has to do with Slashdot, but maybe he's one of the main moderators. Who knows. FWIW - I never read Katz, as I find his writing to be mostly irrelevant to why I read Slashdot. It seems to me that he's finally found a soap-box on which he can rant and rave about how Geeks have a hard time in life, and how he's finally found justification for his own existence. Katz is irrelevant. He will be discarded.... :P
Ignoring the technical issues of whether this would be possible, I would love to see it on my PC. I want to buy some kind of mac machine, but I've spent too much on my Windows PC over the past year to justify, and heck what would I need another PC for anyway? Bring it on!
Awww crap! The minute after I submitted that post above, M12 started to crash and has done so consistently since then. I take back everything I wrote above - M12 is a definite improvement but it still crashes A LOT!!!
I was about to say I'm pleasantly surprised, but M12 turned the tables and bit me on the nose. I am impressed so far (on Win98). The speed is good, initial stablity seems good. It seems much less erratic at loading sites (or not as the case was). My main complaint sofar is the interface - I'm trying to tab between text boxes to enter my nick and password and this text, but it didnt work properly. It tabbed away somewhere completely unexpected on the page, and wouldnt go to the correct box that I wanted to tab to. Also, selecting text (mainly in the address terxt box at the top) doesnt seem 100% correct. If I try to select the whole address to delete it, it doesnt alwas select all the text - similar to early releases of KDE's KFM Browser. Is Mozilla using its own widgets? Apart from that, Im initially happy. Running it for a longer period will be more indicative of its true quality, but that will take time. I may try to use M12 as my main browser for a while.
Personally I think Alan would quit if he were pressured into a situtation that was for the greater good of Redhat, and to the detrement of Linux. Let's face it, he wouldn't be short of job offers.
Being on the giving end MUST make you more dangerous to the general populous at large.
When you consider how much of your personal information is handed around throughout the business world (postal mailing lists, credit cards), why are you worrying so much about this? Let me ask you people. Have you ever used your credit card over the internet? Or over the phone for that matter? If you have, how do you know what happens behind the scenes with your personal information? You don't. What are you worrying about? "Sure, you can store cookies on my hard-disk, you can track the kinds of CDs I buy at cdnow.com, but don't you dare send my video card type to Id you bastards!"
It really annoys me when people get all excited about the theming capabilities of their software. I wish they wouldn't put such an emphasis on theming! Give me a leaner, meaner system without theming anyday!
I must still be in a fever, as I didn't laugh. Mind, I did laugh when I saw Star Wars TPM and realised how crap it was.
Exactly my friend. I could be cynical and say "Only in america" (hopefully I'm quoting from the Simpsons correctly as I intend), but I'd rather say "What is this world coming to?". If he gets 15 months for this, I wonder what this would scale a prison sentence for murder up to? 50 years? Something more realistic and reasonable. Despite all the advertising in the UK, crime does pay, so why the hell am I being a good, honest citizen?? This makes the concepts of justice and judicial systems a farce IMHO.
Whenever anyone uses the phrases "feature-rich" or "rich" I automatically think "bloatware". I'd ask if such rich feature are required? Or are the KDE team following the same downward slide that Microsoft are on - feature creep and eye-candy over a solid, sleek core system.
I "KDE" as well, but I do think they've gone for the Windows feel to attract that audience. I don't think they've succeeded. THe interface just isn't slick, whilst Windows is. (Yes Windows is crap though, but thats not the issue). To me, KDE just doesn't "feel" right when I use it. I also hate the icons with a passion. They are ugly as sin, and should be replaced by an artist, and not a programmer. The question is can they improve on Windows? What would it take to do this?
.. and a room full of my good friends any day over the social delight that is the net. Oh an give me my girlfriend in bed any day over anyone on IRC. The net is a tool, and nothing more to me.
Maybe I'm expecting too much, but I'm very disappointed. Sometimes when I typed a new URL it would claim to have loaded the new page, but nothing new was displayed. I went to www.gamespot.com and what it displayed was a mess. It seemed very erratic; thats the best word I can use to describe it. I wouldn't be trumpeting Mozilla as the next big thing in browsers judging on what I've seen while playing with it. Which is a shame, as I want it to succeed. Back to Netscape 4.7!
From what I hear, MDs are huge in Japan. The impression I got was that CDs are history over there, while MDs are everywhere. I was also told that CDs were huge in Japan while North America was still using tapes. Take from that what you will....
Vapourware!! I'll believe it when I see it! Mind you, I read some of the articles and my brain couldn't handle it, and BOSDed on me. "For those with no sense of humour, this is a public joke announcement. Stop it!! This is far too silly!!!"
No, one word "School", as its obvious he's been skipping far too many lessons.