Having personally used Multiple Data Mining techniques for several years now - It's not that Data Mining doesn't work, rather it's how its used. Data Mining is great at trend forecasting and if you're really good at what you're doing in it you can factor in probabilities of certain future events. The one key factor in data mining is a "Training Set" of Data to teach the machine(s) how to recognize the patterns. Since I suspect Terrorist come from every walk of life, every know nationality, and are using 1 off events this is throwing them a few headaches. The real key is to of course define what is normal, but if the rest of the world is as normal as are we here in the US they don't have a chance to pin point the Target Data (in this case people).
I would also suspect that the Terrorist Motives might be a key factor, but it's like pulling teeth to get any US Administration to admit that their foreign policy is screw up beyond belief, let alone something like a cruddy foreign policy might just result in cruddy foreign relations or popular uprisings around the world. If they did, then we wouldn't need data mining in the first place.
"May You - Live Long and Prosper in Interesting Times" -- by deweycheetham
Having personally used Multiple Data Mining techniques for several years now - It's not that Data Mining doesn't work, rather it's how its used. Data Mining is great at trend forecasting and if you're really good at what you're doing in it you can factor in probabilities of certain future events. The one key factor in data mining is a "Training Set" of Data to teach the machine(s) how to recognize the patterns. Since I suspect Terrorist come from every walk of life, every know nationality, and are using 1 off events this is throwing them a few headaches. The real key is to of course define what is normal, but if the rest of the world is as normal as are we here in the US they don't have a chance to pin point the Target Data (in this case people).
I would also suspect that the Terrorist Motives might be a key factor, but it's like pulling teeth to get any US Administration to admit that their foreign policy is screw up beyond belief, let alone something like a cruddy foreign policy might just result in cruddy foreign relations or popular uprisings around the world. If they did, then we wouldn't need data mining in the first place.
"May You - Live Long and Prosper in Interesting Times" -- by deweycheetham
Why don't you give him (Rutan) the $20 billion (There by saving $15 billion) as I suggested earlier and see what he and his engineers can come up with. He doesn't seem to operate on the principle that "The jobs not done till the monies all gone". Maybe a little clear vision (instead of the Clearlake view of the world) can make a difference.
After having personally worked for Nasa (sub contracted) and watched one of it birds drop out of the sky so hard only the worms survived(because of some 35 plus year old design flaw). I have very little faith in the organization. My guess is that too much of their work is/was directed at the "Black Programs"/money sink, and the lack of success in the "Manned Missions" for last 20 years proof enough for me.
Brought to you by letter "J" and NASA the "NON AERO SPACE ASSOCIATION".
Ok! If you can only think in terms of negativity. Rutan has lost 0 space vehicles in which people died, Nasa has lost 2 that we know of. How many School Teachers, Pilots, and Scientists has NASA lost in the last 20 years again? How many has Rutan lost?
The sad part about it is that Nasa has not developed any New Manned Kind of Vehicle in the last 20 plus years. That's not Rutan's fault so don't blame him, but it is one reason he has decided to go it alone. And in doing so has proved that National Aero Space Programs from the US, Russia, China, and the EU are not the only way to go and may not be the best. In turn, That mean their budges can go too. Lets cut there(NASA) first and save the tax payers a fortune. Only someone on the payroll of the Nasa and/or its croon knee subcontractors can't see this.
By the way how long do we have ignore private sector, private inventors, and projects like "The X Prize's" so solve the major issues of the day, because the Politicians and the Bureaucrats are beholding to the special interests that feed the originations? (Who can compete with the government(s) and unlimited monies?)
One more thing, do you remember name of the "Candy" the that was free floating in space on the "X Prize" Winning mission that you would like to ignore, that didn't make low earth obit? Hmmm, I suddenly have a sweat tooth...
Brought to you by letter "J" and NASA the "NON AERO SPACE ASSOCIATION".
Ahhmmm, I seem to be mistaken. I seem to believe Burt Rutan had Designed and built a Publicly Manned Space Vehicle (with his reputation on the line) in the last 20 year. What about Nasa?
So the score is:
Rutan 1 (low earth orbit vehicle on a shoe string budget), NASA 0 (with infinite resources upon a serious request).
Give Rutan $20 billion and see what he can come up with. At least if he screws up, he will probability have change left over. Nasa has NEVER had change left over on a manned mission.
Brought to you by letter "J" and NASA the "NON AERO SPACE ASSOCIATION".
Why don't they just outsource it to Burt Rutan and get out of his way. I don't trust NASA to manage its back to the moon. Their track record hasn't been that good as of the last 20 years.
Sorry I don't care about your revenue streams generated by D&D v4.0. It doesn't make the game more playable to me. 4.0 D&D is targeting the computer gamers not the 25 year "ONGOING" campaign running DM and Gamers of the past. It's not the same game it was 25 years ago and they're just capitalizing on the old TRS Trade Mark and branding. Just call it something else and leave the Classics alone, instead of improving it to the point that it evolves in to something entirely else at the lowest of standards of mediocrity. You could have named it something more fitting like - "War Craft", "Everquest" or something, but I guess those are taken.
If I wanted to run D&D on the computer with my friends I have lots of options with a hugh variety of choices, and there has been lots of software over the years to do just that. If I want to run a fast moving pen and paper well balanced D&D type game the options tend to get poorer the farther I seem to move farther from AD&D v2.0.
BTW, WTF is wrong with GNOMES? Who was the genius that thought that one up? What's next Orcs? (What a bunch of Stereotypical team of writers and computer jockeys.)
What erks me is that this was sceduled to be in down state Illinois where there is a lot of high sulfur coal and a lot of coal burring power plants in the area. The DoE killed the project and now its raising its head in California or elsewhere west. The whole freaking point was for Illinois Coal Fired Power Plants to use Illinois Soft Bituminous Coal which are higher in pollutants than the Harder Coal variety. This part of the country has been depressed since the mid 1980's or at least when "Regan's Trickle Down Theory of the Economics didn't trickle down". The technology could have really cleaned up the air quality and the Jobs could have really helped the area as well. Also the Coal Industry and State and Local Governments really layed the ground work ($$$)out for this. It was Cut short for PURELY POLICATAL REASONS based on location which back out of at the last minute on the project as part of the "BUSH Whitehouse's Energy Policy" what ever the hell that is.
"Hang 'em that will stop 'em. Dam Hackers. String 'em up, tall tree and all that."
More ignorant clueless congressmen running for office with nothing better to do with their time (like fixing healthcare, balancing the executive office, rebuilding infrastructure, etc...). Let's all be sure to vote for this genius in the future.
then you might want to look at a platform that can be maintained over many years(use 10 years a benchmark) with|without with incremental upgrades as needed.
I recommend any one of the Unix/Linux/BSD (with a maybe on Apples Mac's) as a platform, for running Apache for web applications. There is a long dependable history there. Look for yourself...
Hey, other than water there is no reason to go there. (NASA has been touting that premises for 30+ years)
If you don't land on the moon, then you don't need to take off from it or did I miss something.
btw: If you don't use a human, then you don't need a to drink the H2o or split it into H2 + O to use it as fuel since the ION drives kind of make chemical thrust irrelative. Wasn't the point to stopping at the moon in order go somewhere else. I personally prefer direct flight to my destination when I travel, Hate transferring in Chicago O'Hare or Atlanta. Same kind of principal...
we have Ion drives?
Not to mention, since NASA said there was nothing of worth on the moon 30+ years ago to go back. You mean they made a technical mistake or an accounting mistake (budget short fall)?
I will put out the best code your have ever seen. (But realistically this would never happen, so good luck there bub.)
In Short: Capitalism is not about rewarding labor, but rewarding capital. Therefore, I really don't have a vested interested in having you pimp out my labor.
|...Probably the biggest green initiative coming down the road these days, literally, is congestion pricing -- charging people for the right to drive into a downtown area....|
Give me another reason not to drive downtown from the suburbs, and watch the Urban Blight of the 70's come back with a vengeance as the infrastructure crumbles.
Since this is a new way of taxing people and raising revenue, I am sure it will be adopted in all the 50 state's largest cities by the end of the year if not sooner. When that happens again as in the 70's, I will politely take my business to the local strip mall 5 minutes away from to avoid such none since. This kind of thinking is what ultimately lead to the Rust Belt Effect in the Midwestern States. So I guess it's coming back by popular demand thanks to IBM who wants to sell "The People" their newest master plan software. Ugh, not again...
The following is the blurp I responed to Post Topic "Wrong". The REQUOTE is a follows:
$20 X 2080/hour = $41,600 (this very high since I have seen "The Lucky" intern getting half that here in the mid west. Entry levels programmers and/or admins are making $12 to start. I see it all the time job boards)
The Long term finical security is poor, the cycle seems to be 3 1/2 year good a years to 1 and a half bad years. Its tuff to raise a family like that. I have personally seen folks submit 3,000 resumes to get a low end computer job at around 40K to 50k. (after 25 years in the business with 19 years, as an IT consultant that's just the way it is now, chalk it up to personal observations).
7/24/365 days a year on call... woot for joy
Ever take a look at the cost of the technology seminars for continuing education the range fro 1.5k to 8k per pop and you are going to go thru those a couple times a year just to keep current. Maybe your firm will cover the training cost but not usually.
Just remember, there are postal workers doing the 9to 5 making 60k a year. Plumbers are doing even better, the same for Electricians and Welders now with overtime. But the It folks don't get paid overtime.
Ok, so you still want to spend 10k a year at the state university. And what are you going to get at the end of it. You still need to up grade your technology every two years to stay up with Moorse Law. So you better lover what you do...
So you are the best and brightest, what do you think?
$20 X 2080/hour = $41,600 (this very high since I have seen "The Lucky" intern getting half that here in the mid west. Entry levels programmers and/or admins are making $12 to start. I see it all the time on the job boards)
The Long term finical security is poor, the cycle seems to be 3 1/2 year good a years to 1 and a half bad years. Its tuff to raise a family like that. I have personally seen folks submit 3,000 resumes to get a low end computer job at around 40K to 50k because the market is that tight. (after 25 years in the business with 19 years, as an IT consultant that's just the way it is now, chalk it up to personal observations).
7/24/365 days a year on call... Woot for joy $41,000/7/24/365 = $0.67 per hours, well you don't like it, do the math yourself.
Ever take a look at the cost of the technology seminars for continuing education the range fro 1.5k to 8k per pop and you are going to go thru those a couple times a year just to keep current. Maybe your firm will cover the training cost but not usually.
Just remember, there are postal workers doing the 9 to 5 making 60k a year. Plumbers are doing even better, the same for Electricians and Welders now with overtime. But the It folks don't get paid overtime.
Ok, so you still want to spend 10k a year at the state university. And what are you going to get at the end of it. You still need to up grade your technology every two years to stay up with Moorse Law. So you better love what you do...
So you are the best and brightest, what do you think?
The compensation (interms of wages, costs of ongoing education, job security, and work hours) should fit the labor market. For the last 8 years they have been all out of wack and are not paying for itself in America.
Anyone who enters the Engeneering or CS Fields had better know what they are getting into. And I think the kids today do know, and that's why the best and brightest are not enrolling in those areas.
I think there is a question of morality here. Google is as big a target as the Black Hats. Don't both work at the same goal (rankings) with a profit motive?
So if we start making laws in this direction one way or the other, do we just follow the corporate money to find truth? Google's top cop needs to remove his foot from mouth be for he makes anymore of us gag.
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Having personally used Multiple Data Mining techniques for several years now - It's not that Data Mining doesn't work, rather it's how its used. Data Mining is great at trend forecasting and if you're really good at what you're doing in it you can factor in probabilities of certain future events. The one key factor in data mining is a "Training Set" of Data to teach the machine(s) how to recognize the patterns. Since I suspect Terrorist come from every walk of life, every know nationality, and are using 1 off events this is throwing them a few headaches. The real key is to of course define what is normal, but if the rest of the world is as normal as are we here in the US they don't have a chance to pin point the Target Data (in this case people).
I would also suspect that the Terrorist Motives might be a key factor, but it's like pulling teeth to get any US Administration to admit that their foreign policy is screw up beyond belief, let alone something like a cruddy foreign policy might just result in cruddy foreign relations or popular uprisings around the world. If they did, then we wouldn't need data mining in the first place.
"May You - Live Long and Prosper in Interesting Times" -- by deweycheetham
Having personally used Multiple Data Mining techniques for several years now - It's not that Data Mining doesn't work, rather it's how its used. Data Mining is great at trend forecasting and if you're really good at what you're doing in it you can factor in probabilities of certain future events. The one key factor in data mining is a "Training Set" of Data to teach the machine(s) how to recognize the patterns. Since I suspect Terrorist come from every walk of life, every know nationality, and are using 1 off events this is throwing them a few headaches. The real key is to of course define what is normal, but if the rest of the world is as normal as are we here in the US they don't have a chance to pin point the Target Data (in this case people).
I would also suspect that the Terrorist Motives might be a key factor, but it's like pulling teeth to get any US Administration to admit that their foreign policy is screw up beyond belief, let alone something like a cruddy foreign policy might just result in cruddy foreign relations or popular uprisings around the world. If they did, then we wouldn't need data mining in the first place.
"May You - Live Long and Prosper in Interesting Times" -- by deweycheetham
You have hereby been summonsed to appearing in court...
---I just wish this were a joke. ---
Why don't you give him (Rutan) the $20 billion (There by saving $15 billion) as I suggested earlier and see what he and his engineers can come up with. He doesn't seem to operate on the principle that "The jobs not done till the monies all gone". Maybe a little clear vision (instead of the Clearlake view of the world) can make a difference.
After having personally worked for Nasa (sub contracted) and watched one of it birds drop out of the sky so hard only the worms survived(because of some 35 plus year old design flaw). I have very little faith in the organization. My guess is that too much of their work is/was directed at the "Black Programs"/money sink, and the lack of success in the "Manned Missions" for last 20 years proof enough for me.
Brought to you by letter "J" and NASA the "NON AERO SPACE ASSOCIATION".
Ok! If you can only think in terms of negativity. Rutan has lost 0 space vehicles in which people died, Nasa has lost 2 that we know of. How many School Teachers, Pilots, and Scientists has NASA lost in the last 20 years again? How many has Rutan lost?
The sad part about it is that Nasa has not developed any New Manned Kind of Vehicle in the last 20 plus years. That's not Rutan's fault so don't blame him, but it is one reason he has decided to go it alone. And in doing so has proved that National Aero Space Programs from the US, Russia, China, and the EU are not the only way to go and may not be the best. In turn, That mean their budges can go too. Lets cut there(NASA) first and save the tax payers a fortune. Only someone on the payroll of the Nasa and/or its croon knee subcontractors can't see this.
By the way how long do we have ignore private sector, private inventors, and projects like "The X Prize's" so solve the major issues of the day, because the Politicians and the Bureaucrats are beholding to the special interests that feed the originations? (Who can compete with the government(s) and unlimited monies?)
One more thing, do you remember name of the "Candy" the that was free floating in space on the "X Prize" Winning mission that you would like to ignore, that didn't make low earth obit? Hmmm, I suddenly have a sweat tooth...
Brought to you by letter "J" and NASA the "NON AERO SPACE ASSOCIATION".
Ahhmmm, I seem to be mistaken. I seem to believe Burt Rutan had Designed and built a Publicly Manned Space Vehicle (with his reputation on the line) in the last 20 year. What about Nasa?
So the score is:
Rutan 1 (low earth orbit vehicle on a shoe string budget), NASA 0 (with infinite resources upon a serious request).
Give Rutan $20 billion and see what he can come up with. At least if he screws up, he will probability have change left over. Nasa has NEVER had change left over on a manned mission.
Brought to you by letter "J" and NASA the "NON AERO SPACE ASSOCIATION".
Why don't they just outsource it to Burt Rutan and get out of his way. I don't trust NASA to manage its back to the moon. Their track record hasn't been that good as of the last 20 years.
and if you do what's in it for you anyway?
Sorry I don't care about your revenue streams generated by D&D v4.0. It doesn't make the game more playable to me. 4.0 D&D is targeting the computer gamers not the 25 year "ONGOING" campaign running DM and Gamers of the past. It's not the same game it was 25 years ago and they're just capitalizing on the old TRS Trade Mark and branding. Just call it something else and leave the Classics alone, instead of improving it to the point that it evolves in to something entirely else at the lowest of standards of mediocrity. You could have named it something more fitting like - "War Craft", "Everquest" or something, but I guess those are taken.
If I wanted to run D&D on the computer with my friends I have lots of options with a hugh variety of choices, and there has been lots of software over the years to do just that. If I want to run a fast moving pen and paper well balanced D&D type game the options tend to get poorer the farther I seem to move farther from AD&D v2.0.
BTW, WTF is wrong with GNOMES? Who was the genius that thought that one up? What's next Orcs? (What a bunch of Stereotypical team of writers and computer jockeys.)
Correction Matton Illinos not Marion Illinos. The Project has been known as FutureGen and more info can be found at http://www.futuregenalliance.org/
What erks me is that this was sceduled to be in down state Illinois where there is a lot of high sulfur coal and a lot of coal burring power plants in the area. The DoE killed the project and now its raising its head in California or elsewhere west. The whole freaking point was for Illinois Coal Fired Power Plants to use Illinois Soft Bituminous Coal which are higher in pollutants than the Harder Coal variety. This part of the country has been depressed since the mid 1980's or at least when "Regan's Trickle Down Theory of the Economics didn't trickle down". The technology could have really cleaned up the air quality and the Jobs could have really helped the area as well. Also the Coal Industry and State and Local Governments really layed the ground work ($$$)out for this. It was Cut short for PURELY POLICATAL REASONS based on location which back out of at the last minute on the project as part of the "BUSH Whitehouse's Energy Policy" what ever the hell that is.
"Hang 'em that will stop 'em. Dam Hackers. String 'em up, tall tree and all that."
More ignorant clueless congressmen running for office with nothing better to do with their time (like fixing healthcare, balancing the executive office, rebuilding infrastructure, etc...). Let's all be sure to vote for this genius in the future.
then you might want to look at a platform that can be maintained over many years(use 10 years a benchmark) with|without with incremental upgrades as needed.
I recommend any one of the Unix/Linux/BSD (with a maybe on Apples Mac's) as a platform, for running Apache for web applications. There is a long dependable history there. Look for yourself...
Hey, other than water there is no reason to go there. (NASA has been touting that premises for 30+ years)
If you don't land on the moon, then you don't need to take off from it or did I miss something.
btw: If you don't use a human, then you don't need a to drink the H2o or split it into H2 + O to use it as fuel since the ION drives kind of make chemical thrust irrelative. Wasn't the point to stopping at the moon in order go somewhere else. I personally prefer direct flight to my destination when I travel, Hate transferring in Chicago O'Hare or Atlanta. Same kind of principal...
Smarter, Faster, Cheaper
we have Ion drives? Not to mention, since NASA said there was nothing of worth on the moon 30+ years ago to go back. You mean they made a technical mistake or an accounting mistake (budget short fall)?
Open your source, the we (the rest of the world) can fix your code...
I will put out the best code your have ever seen. (But realistically this would never happen, so good luck there bub.)
In Short:
Capitalism is not about rewarding labor, but rewarding capital. Therefore, I really don't have a vested interested in having you pimp out my labor.
No more messing around with little 20 to 25 servo robots, lets break out the big stuff with guns...
| ...Probably the biggest green initiative coming down the road these days, literally, is congestion pricing -- charging people for the right to drive into a downtown area. ...|
Give me another reason not to drive downtown from the suburbs, and watch the Urban Blight of the 70's come back with a vengeance as the infrastructure crumbles.
Since this is a new way of taxing people and raising revenue, I am sure it will be adopted in all the 50 state's largest cities by the end of the year if not sooner. When that happens again as in the 70's, I will politely take my business to the local strip mall 5 minutes away from to avoid such none since. This kind of thinking is what ultimately lead to the Rust Belt Effect in the Midwestern States. So I guess it's coming back by popular demand thanks to IBM who wants to sell "The People" their newest master plan software. Ugh, not again...
| 7/24/365 days a year on call ... Woot for joy $41,000/7/24/365 = $0.67 per hours, well you don't like it, do the math yourself. |
CORRECTION
$41,000/24/365 = $4.68 per hours. So just what is minimun wage again in the US?
The following is the blurp I responed to Post Topic "Wrong". The REQUOTE is a follows:
... woot for joy
$20 X 2080/hour = $41,600 (this very high since I have seen "The Lucky" intern getting half that here in the mid west. Entry levels programmers and/or admins are making $12 to start. I see it all the time job boards)
The Long term finical security is poor, the cycle seems to be 3 1/2 year good a years to 1 and a half bad years. Its tuff to raise a family like that. I have personally seen folks submit 3,000 resumes to get a low end computer job at around 40K to 50k. (after 25 years in the business with 19 years, as an IT consultant that's just the way it is now, chalk it up to personal observations).
7/24/365 days a year on call
Ever take a look at the cost of the technology seminars for continuing education the range fro 1.5k to 8k per pop and you are going to go thru those a couple times a year just to keep current. Maybe your firm will cover the training cost but not usually.
Just remember, there are postal workers doing the 9to 5 making 60k a year. Plumbers are doing even better, the same for Electricians and Welders now with overtime. But the It folks don't get paid overtime.
Ok, so you still want to spend 10k a year at the state university. And what are you going to get at the end of it. You still need to up grade your technology every two years to stay up with Moorse Law. So you better lover what you do...
So you are the best and brightest, what do you think?
$20 X 2080/hour = $41,600 (this very high since I have seen "The Lucky" intern getting half that here in the mid west. Entry levels programmers and/or admins are making $12 to start. I see it all the time on the job boards)
... Woot for joy $41,000/7/24/365 = $0.67 per hours, well you don't like it, do the math yourself.
The Long term finical security is poor, the cycle seems to be 3 1/2 year good a years to 1 and a half bad years. Its tuff to raise a family like that. I have personally seen folks submit 3,000 resumes to get a low end computer job at around 40K to 50k because the market is that tight. (after 25 years in the business with 19 years, as an IT consultant that's just the way it is now, chalk it up to personal observations).
7/24/365 days a year on call
Ever take a look at the cost of the technology seminars for continuing education the range fro 1.5k to 8k per pop and you are going to go thru those a couple times a year just to keep current. Maybe your firm will cover the training cost but not usually.
Just remember, there are postal workers doing the 9 to 5 making 60k a year. Plumbers are doing even better, the same for Electricians and Welders now with overtime. But the It folks don't get paid overtime.
Ok, so you still want to spend 10k a year at the state university. And what are you going to get at the end of it. You still need to up grade your technology every two years to stay up with Moorse Law. So you better love what you do...
So you are the best and brightest, what do you think?
The compensation (interms of wages, costs of ongoing education, job security, and work hours) should fit the labor market. For the last 8 years they have been all out of wack and are not paying for itself in America.
Anyone who enters the Engeneering or CS Fields had better know what they are getting into. And I think the kids today do know, and that's why the best and brightest are not enrolling in those areas.
Would someone check the source on this to see if TFA is a ligit statemtent from Ford?
I think there is a question of morality here. Google is as big a target as the Black Hats. Don't both work at the same goal (rankings) with a profit motive?
So if we start making laws in this direction one way or the other, do we just follow the corporate money to find truth? Google's top cop needs to remove his foot from mouth be for he makes anymore of us gag.
Paid Google Advertisers Ranking == Black Hats