Where do you think news shows and all that get everything from. If you are an important person you are listened to and followed. Everything goes through so many switches and digital portions that our lovely echelon could be listening and taping and monitoring everything. Almost all of us use some sort of mail server that we are not the only sysadmins of, so we are monitored there. Whenever we call other places of buisiness we are usually taped at our end or the other end of the phone call. Even if we speak in private person to person who is to say that that person won't record the conversation. Our country is definately a case of little brother is watching. We have a million camcorders recording everywhere with ten million people trying to get on TV by finding out some juicy information about a celebrity. oh well just my.02$.
Companies across the country are firing workers for acessing news site slashdot from work and home. Tech companies have all decided that having their employees go here read and chat about their products as well as their competitors is violating their intelectual property agreements since slashdot claims that all posts are owned by whoever posted them and not by their respective companies. Companies have already forced Rob and gang to remove all posts from anyone employeed or ever thinking of employment. Please regard this post as the property of McDonald's my new employer and note that I did not give out the ingredients to the secret sauce.
I agree with the above poster. Our goverment has to be involved in things like this. While they may seem to be involving themselves for the wrong reasons at a glance and we all immediately jump to discredit and say how horrible of a injustice this is, we need to think clearer. If the gov were to allow mergers without fairly robust investigations(about the only thing they seem to not investigate is patents but I won't get into that now) we would be in for a world of trouble. Suppose they were to allow mergers of the proportion of AOL and Microsoft merging. Think about it. They have to prevent some merging for that reason. This merger is seeming to be a problem because they do not want the ability to lose investigative rights to these boxes. There are times when the gov agencies need to be able to monitor boxes for activity. Think of how useful the monitoring of the script kiddies was in the story earlier today. If the FBI or state police computer crimes divisions gets that stuff it should be fairly easy for them to bust a script kiddie. I may be strange but I think it is a good thing if they can put a kid on probabtion or short jail time to keep him and maybe a few others from DOSing my servers. Oh well too much rambling need more sleep.
If you have noticed we seem to open up more bands to the general public whenever we get more applications that need them. Granted we will reach a ceiling eventually but I have a feeling for the international aspect of it it is going to fall like the 2.4ghz band does now. In case you havent tried it try using several 2.4 ghz devices nearby. Especially the phones they interfere with everything but sound fine. They have the highest power and cause the most interference so they win. As for companies getting together or some new body regulating it? I doubt it or else we will all end up losing our cool toys. LEts hope not, I like bluetooth, 2.4ghz phones, cell phones etc etc.
One thing we should all know and realize is Microsoft has some of the best media spin artists. That is what is scaring me about this. I believe it was the salon article that said Microsoft's PR guy said no comment. Is Microsoft up to something? Or are they in fact sobbing on their desks as roblimo suggested they do? Let us hope it is the latter. Can you imagine if suddenly we start seeing commercials on TV making microsoft look to be picked upon. While most educated, and especially all/.ers will see through this, it is amazing how easy the masses can be swayed. If suddenly we start looking to be the bad people elected officials slowly start to get more sympathetic to MS then we all have problems. Hopefully, MS will realize how wrong they are here and back down, maybe even posting freely the next time the release a MS standard. Just my worthless $.02.
It is not a matter of educating people. We will never be able to educate everyone enough. People will always be stupid. Even if you are the smartest person, you still do remarkably stupid things. I have yet to meet the person that can not qucikly think of at least 5 times they did things that any rational person would comment as completely stupid. As for people cliking in an email for most users a computer is as much of a magic creation as the internal combustion engine. How many drivers know exactly how their car works and can repair it? These computer users are the same ones that repeatedly send forwards on because if they send it to 200,000 people Timmy will receive millions in health care and they will see a cool qt movie on their pc. People do stupid things. We will continue to do stupid things. Therefore education helps but people will always clik a button if the pros seem to outweigh the posssible negatives. Or even if it is jut in front of them. just my one cent.
Janet Reno today announced that while she was busy battling for the safety of all against the evil Bill Gates, she has allowed another monopoly to form. But since the government no longer owns any of the.gov extensions she is unable to email any of her minions to go after this new monopoly. On a side bar Mr Case of AOL has changed his email address to king@aol.gov. He has also warned if Bill Gates and any other home ISP does not cease and turn over all accounts they will be forced to lose their.com name.
This could mean two things. One is they agree and are rational about technology. Two means they did not like this particular case and are waiting for one that would be more giving to a finding of ISPs are liable. If that is the case I wish they would have argued this one. As I have no affiliation with them I have no idea which is the true case. Hopefully we can look at this as some good news and if another one comes up with a different ruling from the lower court they will overturn it.
I noticed several people warning you about different freq for GSM from the US to Europe. This is true however we, Ericsson, make a phone which has multiple frequencies. I forget the model number but it is called the world phone. It is designed for exactly this purpose. We use them to go back and forth from the US to Sweeden. As for people's suggestions of using the internet cafes to logon to the internet that would be fine but a lot of those places have specific rules against you loading your own software on it, aka the camera utility. Safest make sure to tell Omnipoint what you are doing, thier reps should be knowledgable enough to get you the right phone. And have a good trip. Chris
I for one love it. I no longer have to carry my CDs back and forth from home to work to car, etc. I can log in from home or work and listen to the bulk of MY Cd collection. NOT pirated mp3s not stolen music. This is music I happily played for and am tired of carrying around a huge CD case so I can play one song off of ten different CDs. It is also much quicker to point and clik on a song/CD than it is to find it, load it, then skip to the song. Good luck mp3.com.
I loved those things in college. Of course my time usually didn't fair as well as we should have according to our prof. but hey we also tended to be a little hungover for the contests:) Programing to solve a completely pointless problem that uses some little tricky algorythm sure as hell beats sitting in front of some other guys C code, commented in Swedish, that runs a query on an oracle database and trying to figure out why the report doesn't work anymore. oh well just my worthless.02$
Granted it isn't as much of a step as they could take. But it is still a step in the right direction. Of course I don't care if it was open source I would never look at the billions of lines of code for windows 2000:) Unless I was really into optimizing it for a game I was programming, but I don't program games so I will continue using my friendly UNIX servers. I would like to see them starting to open up more source so that maybe we could yank out parts of applications we dont need so that we could get them back to working on our old boxes. If this is a first step great and let us hope that. However, the bashes that are going to come will probably tell much more true of MS than hoping they will see this is good and become more and more open source in the future.
Now that I will be publicly flogged for that statement. I agree with him. While many of us are spending more time online it is not a case of abandoning all of our friends merely a new way to continue to communicate with them. Without programs like IRC,first, then more mainstream AIM and ICQ I would not stay in touch with most of my friends from college. I would not be able to afford to talk to most of them every day. While at work I can get email and post on slashdot rather than staring blankly while my brain reboots. I consider things like this a boom for society. Granted it is a different society but oh well, change can be good. Slowly media types will start to adopt this online phenom as a good thing. Once more and more of them are online. Right now they cater to their execs who are older and less connected and many do not ever use a computer I fear. I know at my last job we had execs that could barely use outlook. It was so funny the guy running one of the top 10 life insurance companies in the world, could not figure out how to open outlook and send email, took me about 2 hours to teach him outlook. People like that see net life as a abomination, until we convert them or they stop being in power we will continue to see these studies. oh well
Now maybe Circuit City will start carrying the Apex DVD player again that has the region code breaking built in:) and an mp3 player and some other nice features. I didnt have the money at the time to buy one. Also maybe we will luck out and the DVD consortium will start to have to split their legal funds fighting 20 or 30 lawsuits of this type and won't have as much money to put into the fight against DeCSS. wihsful thinking I suppose.
The goal for this game would be to smoke before and during the game? On another note it seems to me it would be cooler if they could have it whoever has the most active brain would win Although actually it strikes me as a very pointless creating either way they take this now if they had developed this to the point of where you could think and have the ball respond and it was some sort of manipulation by mind only that would be kind of impressive. But to just see who has the least brain activity? and then they win? hospitals usually pull the plug on the one with the least brain behavior. Oh well just my opinion for a worthless waste of research To reference another article I hope they make this proprietary, that way some company trying to get rich will go bankrupt:) wow pointless ramble oh well
Most people I know that are in research or doing that sort of thing on the side do it for the openness. I am in the corporate sector, what I get to spend my time on is determined by people above me that have no real clue how things here work. But since they are my boss I have to do it their way. I have friends at NASA, semiresearch, still in the university setting and other places that have freedom. If they think that they have some sort of a great idea they run it by another scientist or whatever and then run with it. If they make enough progress they try and get a grant. No they don't make the money but they do have freedom to pursue knowledge. I know that makes me envious on numerous occasions. It is that freedom that we need to encourage to keep people in the research realm.
Mickey, We got the public where we want them now. If they want to buy a movie we can make sure they can't get them at some cheap blackmarket price or early when they come out in the US. We can keep them from making low budget movies, they have to pay us 90% of their budget to get our encryption scheme. This will work great. We won't even have to do anything we can just sit here and prevent everyone from making movies if they dont pay us. Now about this Decss thing. We need to make sure everyone of our TV stations has this covered about what a scourge to society that kid was. In fact we need to get a movie going with the antichrist reverse engineering. That way we can get the moral majority and all those lobbyists fighting to ban RE. Once everyone thinks that reverse engineering is the devils work we can shut this stuff down and noone will touch us again. Now we just need to start casting for an evil antichrist reverse engineering linux user. well keep the little man down gotta go Mr Sony PS We got Circuit City to yank that awful APEX off their shelves. Now how can we recall all the ones that were sold?
When you do, if you do, write something to your local paper to be published be sure to have it proofread by someone who is a nontechie. What we may all understand on here could very easily fly right over the head of the public we need to persuade to be on our side in this issue. Also if it sounds inflammatory or rash lots of little local papers, mine included, will not print it. If anyone has a great writing on this topic try getting it sent to one of the bigger papers. If we can explain the position on this issue to the public then the judges will start to come around. In conclusion good luck Jon and I wish you the best of luck with this legal junk.
I would rather he didn't quickly throw just the movie with a little bit of this that and the trailer stuck on the DVD with it. I would be forced to buy it because it is Star Wars, and then I would be pissed off because I have nothing more than I would get on a videotape basically. His idea of waiting till he can do something special might not be a money grabbing scheme as much as he realizes how special star wars is to all of us. Maybe he doesn't want to release crap with the Star Wars movie on it. Of course if he waits a year or two and then releases the DVD with nothing special on it then we will have reason to be pissed. But I guess we will have to just wait and see.
There are definately two sides to this issue. The problem is that the companies that make programs like netnanny and all those other great filter programs are not going to want people to know how their program works. If it is a blacklist that is updated via the web then they could easily make that public from our point of view. They would then say well we are giving our hours of research to our competitors to use. It could easily go back and forth but in the end the laziness of the companies, and the fact that it seems like it will make more money, will prevent public display of either the blacklists or a method used to block sites. If the government was to make their own publicly availbale listing of porn/objectionable sites who would decide what is on it? Would we have Jerry Falwell and the Moral majority deciding? The kids wouldn't be allowed on here. Well enough rambling. Until there is gov intervention the companies won't publish it. Once there is it will only be worse. Choose your side.
But it reminds me way too much of those days when you had the 8088 with the turbo button to go up to 10.77 mhz. I wonder how much power will really be saved by slowing down the proc that much. I think I would rather have the option myself so that if I needed the extra speed while on battery I could have it. But Im not a high paid Intel engineer:)
I know all of my testing will be done using that. Forget the C:) All in all this awesome for major companies to do stuff like this. Kind of like when they donate the stuff to colleges for learning purposes. It does nothing but promote a company as a good guy and gets people learning their stuff so they will be influenced if they have a choice to buy. Great job Compaq.
Look at all the companies. What do we see on TV when we see a commercial? It is always Windows x. Yes the bulk of the internet is made by Cisco and 3com and fiber and all that but the average computer user now could and would never understand and of the backbone. While we can all think, hey I have been around since pre-windows using my 2400 baud modem thinking I was cooking that is not the commercial internet. That is not going to get Joe Blow's attention. Flashy lights and pretty pictures win the masses. Windows has lots of that(as do most web pages). Basically Windows is the market place. Windows has the most users therefore a story about that has the biggest audience and the most understanding. Just my two cents as I sit here on my windows PC at work swearing at it because it locked up on me in the middle of this.
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Where do you think news shows and all that get everything from. If you are an important person you are listened to and followed. Everything goes through so many switches and digital portions that our lovely echelon could be listening and taping and monitoring everything. Almost all of us use some sort of mail server that we are not the only sysadmins of, so we are monitored there. Whenever we call other places of buisiness we are usually taped at our end or the other end of the phone call. Even if we speak in private person to person who is to say that that person won't record the conversation. Our country is definately a case of little brother is watching. We have a million camcorders recording everywhere with ten million people trying to get on TV by finding out some juicy information about a celebrity. oh well just my .02$.
Companies across the country are firing workers for acessing news site slashdot from work and home. Tech companies have all decided that having their employees go here read and chat about their products as well as their competitors is violating their intelectual property agreements since slashdot claims that all posts are owned by whoever posted them and not by their respective companies. Companies have already forced Rob and gang to remove all posts from anyone employeed or ever thinking of employment. Please regard this post as the property of McDonald's my new employer and note that I did not give out the ingredients to the secret sauce.
I agree with the above poster. Our goverment has to be involved in things like this. While they may seem to be involving themselves for the wrong reasons at a glance and we all immediately jump to discredit and say how horrible of a injustice this is, we need to think clearer. If the gov were to allow mergers without fairly robust investigations(about the only thing they seem to not investigate is patents but I won't get into that now) we would be in for a world of trouble. Suppose they were to allow mergers of the proportion of AOL and Microsoft merging. Think about it. They have to prevent some merging for that reason. This merger is seeming to be a problem because they do not want the ability to lose investigative rights to these boxes. There are times when the gov agencies need to be able to monitor boxes for activity. Think of how useful the monitoring of the script kiddies was in the story earlier today. If the FBI or state police computer crimes divisions gets that stuff it should be fairly easy for them to bust a script kiddie. I may be strange but I think it is a good thing if they can put a kid on probabtion or short jail time to keep him and maybe a few others from DOSing my servers. Oh well too much rambling need more sleep.
If you have noticed we seem to open up more bands to the general public whenever we get more applications that need them. Granted we will reach a ceiling eventually but I have a feeling for the international aspect of it it is going to fall like the 2.4ghz band does now. In case you havent tried it try using several 2.4 ghz devices nearby. Especially the phones they interfere with everything but sound fine. They have the highest power and cause the most interference so they win. As for companies getting together or some new body regulating it? I doubt it or else we will all end up losing our cool toys. LEts hope not, I like bluetooth, 2.4ghz phones, cell phones etc etc.
One thing we should all know and realize is Microsoft has some of the best media spin artists. That is what is scaring me about this. I believe it was the salon article that said Microsoft's PR guy said no comment. Is Microsoft up to something? Or are they in fact sobbing on their desks as roblimo suggested they do? Let us hope it is the latter. Can you imagine if suddenly we start seeing commercials on TV making microsoft look to be picked upon. While most educated, and especially all /.ers will see through this, it is amazing how easy the masses can be swayed. If suddenly we start looking to be the bad people elected officials slowly start to get more sympathetic to MS then we all have problems. Hopefully, MS will realize how wrong they are here and back down, maybe even posting freely the next time the release a MS standard. Just my worthless $.02.
It is not a matter of educating people. We will never be able to educate everyone enough. People will always be stupid. Even if you are the smartest person, you still do remarkably stupid things. I have yet to meet the person that can not qucikly think of at least 5 times they did things that any rational person would comment as completely stupid. As for people cliking in an email for most users a computer is as much of a magic creation as the internal combustion engine. How many drivers know exactly how their car works and can repair it? These computer users are the same ones that repeatedly send forwards on because if they send it to 200,000 people Timmy will receive millions in health care and they will see a cool qt movie on their pc. People do stupid things. We will continue to do stupid things. Therefore education helps but people will always clik a button if the pros seem to outweigh the posssible negatives. Or even if it is jut in front of them. just my one cent.
Janet Reno today announced that while she was busy battling for the safety of all against the evil Bill Gates, she has allowed another monopoly to form. But since the government no longer owns any of the .gov extensions she is unable to email any of her minions to go after this new monopoly. On a side bar Mr Case of AOL has changed his email address to king@aol.gov. He has also warned if Bill Gates and any other home ISP does not cease and turn over all accounts they will be forced to lose their .com name.
This could mean two things. One is they agree and are rational about technology. Two means they did not like this particular case and are waiting for one that would be more giving to a finding of ISPs are liable. If that is the case I wish they would have argued this one. As I have no affiliation with them I have no idea which is the true case. Hopefully we can look at this as some good news and if another one comes up with a different ruling from the lower court they will overturn it.
I noticed several people warning you about different freq for GSM from the US to Europe. This is true however we, Ericsson, make a phone which has multiple frequencies. I forget the model number but it is called the world phone. It is designed for exactly this purpose. We use them to go back and forth from the US to Sweeden. As for people's suggestions of using the internet cafes to logon to the internet that would be fine but a lot of those places have specific rules against you loading your own software on it, aka the camera utility. Safest make sure to tell Omnipoint what you are doing, thier reps should be knowledgable enough to get you the right phone. And have a good trip. Chris
I for one love it. I no longer have to carry my CDs back and forth from home to work to car, etc. I can log in from home or work and listen to the bulk of MY Cd collection. NOT pirated mp3s not stolen music. This is music I happily played for and am tired of carrying around a huge CD case so I can play one song off of ten different CDs. It is also much quicker to point and clik on a song/CD than it is to find it, load it, then skip to the song. Good luck mp3.com.
I loved those things in college. Of course my time usually didn't fair as well as we should have according to our prof. but hey we also tended to be a little hungover for the contests:) Programing to solve a completely pointless problem that uses some little tricky algorythm sure as hell beats sitting in front of some other guys C code, commented in Swedish, that runs a query on an oracle database and trying to figure out why the report doesn't work anymore. oh well just my worthless .02$
Granted it isn't as much of a step as they could take. But it is still a step in the right direction. Of course I don't care if it was open source I would never look at the billions of lines of code for windows 2000:) Unless I was really into optimizing it for a game I was programming, but I don't program games so I will continue using my friendly UNIX servers. I would like to see them starting to open up more source so that maybe we could yank out parts of applications we dont need so that we could get them back to working on our old boxes. If this is a first step great and let us hope that. However, the bashes that are going to come will probably tell much more true of MS than hoping they will see this is good and become more and more open source in the future.
Now that I will be publicly flogged for that statement. I agree with him. While many of us are spending more time online it is not a case of abandoning all of our friends merely a new way to continue to communicate with them. Without programs like IRC,first, then more mainstream AIM and ICQ I would not stay in touch with most of my friends from college. I would not be able to afford to talk to most of them every day. While at work I can get email and post on slashdot rather than staring blankly while my brain reboots. I consider things like this a boom for society. Granted it is a different society but oh well, change can be good. Slowly media types will start to adopt this online phenom as a good thing. Once more and more of them are online. Right now they cater to their execs who are older and less connected and many do not ever use a computer I fear. I know at my last job we had execs that could barely use outlook. It was so funny the guy running one of the top 10 life insurance companies in the world, could not figure out how to open outlook and send email, took me about 2 hours to teach him outlook. People like that see net life as a abomination, until we convert them or they stop being in power we will continue to see these studies.
oh well
Now maybe Circuit City will start carrying the Apex DVD player again that has the region code breaking built in:) and an mp3 player and some other nice features. I didnt have the money at the time to buy one. Also maybe we will luck out and the DVD consortium will start to have to split their legal funds fighting 20 or 30 lawsuits of this type and won't have as much money to put into the fight against DeCSS. wihsful thinking I suppose.
The goal for this game would be to smoke before and during the game?
On another note it seems to me it would be cooler if they could have it whoever has the most active brain would win
Although actually it strikes me as a very pointless creating either way they take this
now if they had developed this to the point of where you could think and have the ball respond and it was some sort of manipulation by mind only
that would be kind of impressive. But to just see who has the least brain activity? and then they win? hospitals usually pull the plug on the one with the least brain behavior. Oh well
just my opinion for a worthless waste of research
To reference another article I hope they make this proprietary, that way some company trying to get rich will go bankrupt:)
wow pointless ramble
oh well
Most people I know that are in research or doing that sort of thing on the side do it for the openness. I am in the corporate sector, what I get to spend my time on is determined by people above me that have no real clue how things here work. But since they are my boss I have to do it their way. I have friends at NASA, semiresearch, still in the university setting and other places that have freedom. If they think that they have some sort of a great idea they run it by another scientist or whatever and then run with it. If they make enough progress they try and get a grant. No they don't make the money but they do have freedom to pursue knowledge. I know that makes me envious on numerous occasions. It is that freedom that we need to encourage to keep people in the research realm.
Mickey,
We got the public where we want them now. If they want to buy a movie we can make sure they can't get them at some cheap blackmarket price or early when they come out in the US. We can keep them from making low budget movies, they have to pay us 90% of their budget to get our encryption scheme. This will work great. We won't even have to do anything we can just sit here and prevent everyone from making movies if they dont pay us.
Now about this Decss thing. We need to make sure everyone of our TV stations has this covered about what a scourge to society that kid was. In fact we need to get a movie going with the antichrist reverse engineering. That way we can get the moral majority and all those lobbyists fighting to ban RE. Once everyone thinks that reverse engineering is the devils work we can shut this stuff down and noone will touch us again.
Now we just need to start casting for an evil antichrist reverse engineering linux user.
well keep the little man down
gotta go
Mr Sony
PS We got Circuit City to yank that awful APEX off their shelves. Now how can we recall all the ones that were sold?
That is awesome.
Course now you have to only worry about a plagarism case on your hands.
You should have footnoted the story:)
When you do, if you do, write something to your local paper to be published be sure to have it proofread by someone who is a nontechie. What we may all understand on here could very easily fly right over the head of the public we need to persuade to be on our side in this issue. Also if it sounds inflammatory or rash lots of little local papers, mine included, will not print it. If anyone has a great writing on this topic try getting it sent to one of the bigger papers. If we can explain the position on this issue to the public then the judges will start to come around. In conclusion good luck Jon and I wish you the best of luck with this legal junk.
I would rather he didn't quickly throw just the movie with a little bit of this that and the trailer stuck on the DVD with it. I would be forced to buy it because it is Star Wars, and then I would be pissed off because I have nothing more than I would get on a videotape basically. His idea of waiting till he can do something special might not be a money grabbing scheme as much as he realizes how special star wars is to all of us. Maybe he doesn't want to release crap with the Star Wars movie on it. Of course if he waits a year or two and then releases the DVD with nothing special on it then we will have reason to be pissed. But I guess we will have to just wait and see.
There are definately two sides to this issue. The problem is that the companies that make programs like netnanny and all those other great filter programs are not going to want people to know how their program works. If it is a blacklist that is updated via the web then they could easily make that public from our point of view. They would then say well we are giving our hours of research to our competitors to use. It could easily go back and forth but in the end the laziness of the companies, and the fact that it seems like it will make more money, will prevent public display of either the blacklists or a method used to block sites. If the government was to make their own publicly availbale listing of porn/objectionable sites who would decide what is on it? Would we have Jerry Falwell and the Moral majority deciding? The kids wouldn't be allowed on here. Well enough rambling. Until there is gov intervention the companies won't publish it. Once there is it will only be worse. Choose your side.
But it reminds me way too much of those days when you had the 8088 with the turbo button to go up to 10.77 mhz. I wonder how much power will really be saved by slowing down the proc that much. I think I would rather have the option myself so that if I needed the extra speed while on battery I could have it. But Im not a high paid Intel engineer:)
I know all of my testing will be done using that. Forget the C:) All in all this awesome for major companies to do stuff like this. Kind of like when they donate the stuff to colleges for learning purposes. It does nothing but promote a company as a good guy and gets people learning their stuff so they will be influenced if they have a choice to buy. Great job Compaq.
Microsoft WINDOWS. All of them.
Look at all the companies. What do we see on TV when we see a commercial? It is always Windows x. Yes the bulk of the internet is made by Cisco and 3com and fiber and all that but the average computer user now could and would never understand and of the backbone. While we can all think, hey I have been around since pre-windows using my 2400 baud modem thinking I was cooking that is not the commercial internet. That is not going to get Joe Blow's attention.
Flashy lights and pretty pictures win the masses.
Windows has lots of that(as do most web pages). Basically Windows is the market place. Windows has the most users therefore a story about that has the biggest audience and the most understanding. Just my two cents as I sit here on my windows PC at work swearing at it because it locked up on me in the middle of this.