No, the FDA is not there to relieve you of your responsibility. If a drug cartel know that one of their products has adverse reactions that lead to death, they should act quickly or be sued to bankrupcy. Medicine is one of the areas where death and profit meet regularly and that is where the morals should be kept to the highest standards. Anything else is plain murder. It does not matter that without the medicine they'd be dead anyway if with the proper dose or a similar medicine they'd still be alive. Your billions of dollar claim leaves out other essential information: like what the total amount of revenue and profits is. Another poster claimed (with references which I saw none in your post) that 85% of revenue was not spend on research, and more was spend on marketing and profit-taking than on research. That proves to me that your company (which is one of those biggies considering the total revenue is around 17.000.000.000 USD) is making absurd amounts of money and should be broken up, severely regulated or nationalised.
And it is exactly like you described, only without the GM. It takes a lot of time to grow a new cultivar, and without that protection/monopoly there would be no incentive to develop new ones. There is no way one could keep their cultivar secret, as it is the very product the farmer is selling. On the other hand, the farmers themselves still have the demand for better/different cultivars, so abolishing these breeders rights will not undermine the driving force of the breeders market, and the traditional breeders would still be the ones with the most marketable knowledge. The game would just shift from paying for products (seedstock) to services (if you cross this batch with this batch you will get a bigger harvest).
Well you learn sopmething everyday and this is certainly new for me. Thanks for the insight. TFA does not show the raw data so it is inpossible to see if this selection-only might be true, but given these numbers you'd expect 3-9 people with enlarged memory regions in the busdrivers sample. That is something that would be quite evident. Unless offcourse busdrivers that have the capacity to become london cabbies will do that instead of staying busdriver. They have some progress studies planned, that would show if it is a region that grows from frequent use or if it always stays the same size.
Not that I read TFA, but the blurb suggests they tested experienced cabbies, not fresh ones. It would be interesrting to see fresh graduates compared to those who failed the exam. Your hypothesis would suggest that a very sizable portion (the ones with 'normal' size memory regions) would fail for the exam and not try again. That is very testable, how many people ultimately fail this exam? I think it is not a lot, as it would mean that you'd have to throw away all the time you had invested in learning those damn streets, and cabbies in general are not considered ultra smart. If being a cabbie really required you to have a very good memory, that would ultimately be reflected in their popular image like eg a doctor or an engineer. In other words, if the test was really that hard that it would be highly selective, cabbies in london would be a lot smarter than they are.
I really can't tell if you are right or wrong, but it seems your description of how to get to the frontpage of digg works very well. Nice to know if I ever might need it. Thank You!
Most realworld products are designed for a specific lifetime, and some pessimists suspect that make their products break down after a set time on purpose. Closed source software could also easily build such a feature in (and who knows they haven't). What the beast from redmond is doing here is just a bit less efficient, but produces less outfall when their trick feature might be discovered. From their evil money-eyed perspective it makes perfect sense: forcing you to upgrade is good for their economy.
Windows 2003, didn't that come out at the time of the release of Debian woody?
It is perfectly within the terms of the GPL to sell open source software. It is just easier to give it away for free and charge for services/work you do for paying customers.
You cannot have a basic lab equipped for everything that you can imagine. You would not have the room for that, and even if money is no problem, it would be the most stupid investment you ever made if you have no plans to use it now. It would be much more enlighting if you told us who and why. Just buy the stuff you need for now, and buy the other stuff when you actually have a need for it. what they all share is things like a good bench, high stools to sit on, lots of shelves to store your chemicals and gear on, and some good fluorescent lights. For a biology lab: a bunsen-bruner, a fridge, a broodstove, an autoclave, a microwave, a variable powersupply, a centrifuge suitable for your size of testtubes, lots of glassware, beakers erlenmeyers, IVbottles and a lifetime supply of plastic petridishes and testtubes (epp or similar).
And if you want to do fusion for the physics part: have look at fusor.net (HV supply, vacuum pump, neutron counter, metal workshop)
But whose reason will you accept to acquit them of murder? Yours "he tore my heart open and destroyed my happiness" or the deranged "he was using microwave transmitters into my brain to take over my mind"? In other words, what sounds reasonable to you might not sound reasonable to other people. And we were talking about feelings to justify murder, feelings are always private.
But can you give me one good reason why somebody convicted *beyond any doubt* (not just "reasonable doubt") of multiple murders should ever be allowed to live afterwards? And why I would not be justified in calling for their execution? 1) because your prospective victim is human. I don't think I am alone in this, some religion even made it one of it's commandments.
You are not the only one with that feeling. Pretending to protect the innocent could also be a guise for not having any proof. We'll see if he ever discloses his name and domain.
So, do you mean to say that if condition X happens, you turn into a murderer, if X is the killing of a loved one? (only that or also when somebody calls you a faggot or looks the wrong way at your sister?) That makes you a potential murderer, and I think that is pretty scary. I will state it again, if your feelings depend on somebody getting hurt or killed, then you are pathetic (pathetic as from paschein: to suffer)Get some help before you hurt somebody. And irrelevant? Perhaps, but you tought enough of it to respond...
was the revenge bit, which was at the center of that argument. Do you really think revenge is going to do any good? You know where an 'eye for an eye' leads to? If you need to kill somebody to feel better, no matter what the circumstances, you belong behind bars or in a psychiatric ward.
Nonesense, it is waste already, not plants grown for this purpose. Did you notice that all of the input nutrients that go into the process, also come out of it. Part of that is fertiliser. The process does not need huge amounts of heat, the target temperature is about 280-310C. The trick is in the pressure, that was in the MegaPascal range IIRC.
You are regurgitating a poor argument that had originally been targetted at ethanol production. Brazil had already invalidated that argument before it was even made: it economically viable to run your cars on ethanol. But that is another route that does not turn waste into fuel.
remember that item on/. a few months back about turning turkey offal into oil (Total conversion proces, or other TLA crap). Basically, if you heat organic matter under an immense pressure, you'll get producs that are very much like raw oil. I think, that when the oil prices rise enough, and the debilitating patents on this tech have been abolished, we'll get mobile oil crackers/refineries, that take in an organic waste source, and convert it on the site to usefull fuel a and fertiliser.
Right now there is a very rich concentration of carbon in our waste streams, maybe even bigger that oil coming out of the ground. If we could convert that into oil we'd have a lot of problems solved: no CO2 burden as it comes from plants not oil deposits, no need for totally new technology (combustion engines may not be the most efficient, but its what we've got now). And lastly, and country with its own carbon rich wastestreams would be a potential oil producer, so no opec jacking up the prices.
no, i do not want to be an al-quaida operative. I just let my secret wishes about MS be less secret. Some less tolerant people interpreted that as flamebait of trolling, so the comment went under your treshold and 'disappeared.' As for your tolerance question: no there are no Muslim overlords here, they still are protestant or catholic;) And tolerance does not mean that I have to selfcencor my secret wishes for the beast from redmond, or at least not for me. Freedom of speech also means freedom of discourse.
Al-qaida to drive their homemade nuclear bomb right into M$ campus, and force mr Gates to push the button.
I know it is bad, and those microserfs should not have to pay with their lives for the mistakes they are making every second, but if you multiply this evilness with the probability that it actually will happen, you arrive a the value I attach to M$ products.
There are so many to choose from: If ISO has been taken, then you can always go to ecma, IEEE or whichever org is willing to take your money to make it a 'standard'. Other people suggest that if one monopolist is the only one to implement it, it is not a real standard (me for instance) .
And I certainly don't care that much if he is mentally wrecked from designing his display. mental instability is something you can claim for the judge and if granted gets you undefunite loonie-bin time instead of jailtime. The rest of us try to judge anything by its merits, not the mental state of the creator. If you are a student you may make some mistakes in your time management, but if completing your studies makes it certain your mental state will suffer a lot, you and your uni are making some very serious mistakes. Personally I don't think it is that bad.
Pardon me, but wouldn't earth observing satelites react with the EarthNetworkMonitoringProtocol? The space one is for the satelites looking the other way.
Yes I overlooked that one. There is more on his 'links' page, but that is a bit of a hodgepodge to me. If you submit your own article, at least you could acknowledge others work on the same subject. Citing your own paper again is just, well, egocentric. I wonder how many papers by himslef he cited in that paper? Also, is it just me or is there not much invention in his device?
Since the submitter is the author of the article, I find it a bit upsetting that he does not show more links to information on his 'invention' or background written by others. Now it looks a bit like a bad egotrip.
If you had only read the summary better: If 18000 people vote for democrat candidates in other races, but in one race their votes are not counted, why would you think this is fraud by the democrats?
we have had out little slapfest and sure it was fun. I could insinuate your are a fascist, and you could call me a liberal! btw, did you know that in my neck of the woods, liberal means the right wing (you know the money hoarding elite) of the political spectrum, makes you think eh?
And for the moderation points: maybe you should work a little on getting a good karma. It allows me to troll a little once in a while.
btw: did you put your money/life where your heart is and sing up for the military, or would that be too inconvenient?
Ha, some feed! On average, recruits are more educated and well to do than the general population. Statistically absurd. Compare it to a big company, not the population at large because that also includes the braindead etc. Even more, somebody that willingly signs up must be suicidal, depressed, hopeless or just plain dumb. Why don't you come and die for your country next? Shot at? That comes with the job. And if your stupid enough to not expect it when joining, then join your friends in canada. Sure enough, that comes with the job. And that's why I think your are suicidal, depressed or just plain dumb when you sign up. And as for friends in canada, well, did you notice that my nationality is not american? Blown up? War is war. And our boys do the best with what they have what what they are ordered to do. Personally? I think they being restained. Let em loose and let them do their job. At the moment, they are acting as 'peace keepers'. Not 'soldiers'. They were not trained as social workers or abitrators. They should send in ACLU for that. (grin) Yes, and it even is a war that the US started, so not remorse about some of them being blown up. It only makes it even more sad for the blown-up grunts and their family. Don't you think that it is quite unfair that some village idiot and his 'advisors' can start a war in their private interests, but it is somebody else taking the hits when it turns out not to be a good gamble? I agree with you(!) that an army is not very good at peacekeeping. That army should never have been there in the first place. Can we conclude from your snide ACLU comments that you are very willing to hand over your civil liberties? Go welcome your new overlords and tell them that you can be very usefull in rouding up fellow humans to work in their underground caves. Oh.. A page for Sheehans book eh? who is that? A reminder buddy. Its the SOLDIER that gives you the right to say such things. Not your teacher, or the New York Times. Its our boys in uniform that protect this country, its constitution and YOU. Gosh, does that mean that the US has expanded its territories to Afganistan, Irak, and every other place they invaded, and that these places need to have their liberties protected against their evil inhabitants? An army does not give any rights, it either just sits in their barracks and cost a lot of money for doing nothing, or it goes to war, seeds a lot of death and destruction and costs loads of money. No army has given me any rights. The country(state) I am in does so, and those rights have nothing to do with a grunt with a gun or a cowardly general. As for those boys with uniform fetishes that 'protect' your country: tell me, when was the last time it was invaded? Or when was the even the remotest threat that that might happen? So, if it is not against an evil enemy, who does your country need to be protected from. Its own civilians perhaps? And why does FEMA have concentration camps ready on standby? Bad news boy, your papa is on the red list for toughtcrimes.
Thank you very much for letting me blow off some steam, was it as good for you as it was for me?
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No, the FDA is not there to relieve you of your responsibility. If a drug cartel know that one of their products has adverse reactions that lead to death, they should act quickly or be sued to bankrupcy. Medicine is one of the areas where death and profit meet regularly and that is where the morals should be kept to the highest standards. Anything else is plain murder. It does not matter that without the medicine they'd be dead anyway if with the proper dose or a similar medicine they'd still be alive.
Your billions of dollar claim leaves out other essential information: like what the total amount of revenue and profits is. Another poster claimed (with references which I saw none in your post) that 85% of revenue was not spend on research, and more was spend on marketing and profit-taking than on research. That proves to me that your company (which is one of those biggies considering the total revenue is around 17.000.000.000 USD) is making absurd amounts of money and should be broken up, severely regulated or nationalised.
And it is exactly like you described, only without the GM. It takes a lot of time to grow a new cultivar, and without that protection/monopoly there would be no incentive to develop new ones. There is no way one could keep their cultivar secret, as it is the very product the farmer is selling.
On the other hand, the farmers themselves still have the demand for better/different cultivars, so abolishing these breeders rights will not undermine the driving force of the breeders market, and the traditional breeders would still be the ones with the most marketable knowledge. The game would just shift from paying for products (seedstock) to services (if you cross this batch with this batch you will get a bigger harvest).
Well you learn sopmething everyday and this is certainly new for me. Thanks for the insight. TFA does not show the raw data so it is inpossible to see if this selection-only might be true, but given these numbers you'd expect 3-9 people with enlarged memory regions in the busdrivers sample. That is something that would be quite evident. Unless offcourse busdrivers that have the capacity to become london cabbies will do that instead of staying busdriver.
They have some progress studies planned, that would show if it is a region that grows from frequent use or if it always stays the same size.
Not that I read TFA, but the blurb suggests they tested experienced cabbies, not fresh ones. It would be interesrting to see fresh graduates compared to those who failed the exam. Your hypothesis would suggest that a very sizable portion (the ones with 'normal' size memory regions) would fail for the exam and not try again. That is very testable, how many people ultimately fail this exam? I think it is not a lot, as it would mean that you'd have to throw away all the time you had invested in learning those damn streets, and cabbies in general are not considered ultra smart. If being a cabbie really required you to have a very good memory, that would ultimately be reflected in their popular image like eg a doctor or an engineer.
In other words, if the test was really that hard that it would be highly selective, cabbies in london would be a lot smarter than they are.
I really can't tell if you are right or wrong, but it seems your description of how to get to the frontpage of digg works very well. Nice to know if I ever might need it. Thank You!
but your comparison is right.
Most realworld products are designed for a specific lifetime, and some pessimists suspect that make their products break down after a set time on purpose. Closed source software could also easily build such a feature in (and who knows they haven't). What the beast from redmond is doing here is just a bit less efficient, but produces less outfall when their trick feature might be discovered. From their evil money-eyed perspective it makes perfect sense: forcing you to upgrade is good for their economy.
Windows 2003, didn't that come out at the time of the release of Debian woody?
It is perfectly within the terms of the GPL to sell open source software. It is just easier to give it away for free and charge for services/work you do for paying customers.
You cannot have a basic lab equipped for everything that you can imagine. You would not have the room for that, and even if money is no problem, it would be the most stupid investment you ever made if you have no plans to use it now. It would be much more enlighting if you told us who and why.
Just buy the stuff you need for now, and buy the other stuff when you actually have a need for it. what they all share is things like a good bench, high stools to sit on, lots of shelves to store your chemicals and gear on, and some good fluorescent lights.
For a biology lab: a bunsen-bruner, a fridge, a broodstove, an autoclave, a microwave, a variable powersupply, a centrifuge suitable for your size of testtubes, lots of glassware, beakers erlenmeyers, IVbottles and a lifetime supply of plastic petridishes and testtubes (epp or similar).
And if you want to do fusion for the physics part: have look at fusor.net (HV supply, vacuum pump, neutron counter, metal workshop)
But whose reason will you accept to acquit them of murder? Yours "he tore my heart open and destroyed my happiness" or the deranged "he was using microwave transmitters into my brain to take over my mind"? In other words, what sounds reasonable to you might not sound reasonable to other people. And we were talking about feelings to justify murder, feelings are always private.
But can you give me one good reason why somebody convicted *beyond any doubt* (not just "reasonable doubt") of multiple murders should ever be allowed to live afterwards? And why I would not be justified in calling for their execution?
1) because your prospective victim is human.
I don't think I am alone in this, some religion even made it one of it's commandments.
You are not the only one with that feeling. Pretending to protect the innocent could also be a guise for not having any proof. We'll see if he ever discloses his name and domain.
So, do you mean to say that if condition X happens, you turn into a murderer, if X is the killing of a loved one? (only that or also when somebody calls you a faggot or looks the wrong way at your sister?) That makes you a potential murderer, and I think that is pretty scary.
I will state it again, if your feelings depend on somebody getting hurt or killed, then you are pathetic (pathetic as from paschein: to suffer)Get some help before you hurt somebody.
And irrelevant? Perhaps, but you tought enough of it to respond...
was the revenge bit, which was at the center of that argument. Do you really think revenge is going to do any good? You know where an 'eye for an eye' leads to? If you need to kill somebody to feel better, no matter what the circumstances, you belong behind bars or in a psychiatric ward.
Nonesense, it is waste already, not plants grown for this purpose. Did you notice that all of the input nutrients that go into the process, also come out of it. Part of that is fertiliser.
The process does not need huge amounts of heat, the target temperature is about 280-310C. The trick is in the pressure, that was in the MegaPascal range IIRC.
You are regurgitating a poor argument that had originally been targetted at ethanol production. Brazil had already invalidated that argument before it was even made: it economically viable to run your cars on ethanol. But that is another route that does not turn waste into fuel.
remember that item on /. a few months back about turning turkey offal into oil (Total conversion proces, or other TLA crap).
Basically, if you heat organic matter under an immense pressure, you'll get producs that are very much like raw oil. I think, that when the oil prices rise enough, and the debilitating patents on this tech have been abolished, we'll get mobile oil crackers/refineries, that take in an organic waste source, and convert it on the site to usefull fuel a and fertiliser.
Right now there is a very rich concentration of carbon in our waste streams, maybe even bigger that oil coming out of the ground. If we could convert that into oil we'd have a lot of problems solved: no CO2 burden as it comes from plants not oil deposits, no need for totally new technology (combustion engines may not be the most efficient, but its what we've got now). And lastly, and country with its own carbon rich wastestreams would be a potential oil producer, so no opec jacking up the prices.
no, i do not want to be an al-quaida operative. I just let my secret wishes about MS be less secret. Some less tolerant people interpreted that as flamebait of trolling, so the comment went under your treshold and 'disappeared.' ;) And tolerance does not mean that I have to selfcencor my secret wishes for the beast from redmond, or at least not for me. Freedom of speech also means freedom of discourse.
As for your tolerance question: no there are no Muslim overlords here, they still are protestant or catholic
Al-qaida to drive their homemade nuclear bomb right into M$ campus, and force mr Gates to push the button.
I know it is bad, and those microserfs should not have to pay with their lives for the mistakes they are making every second, but if you multiply this evilness with the probability that it actually will happen, you arrive a the value I attach to M$ products.
There are so many to choose from: If ISO has been taken, then you can always go to ecma, IEEE or whichever org is willing to take your money to make it a 'standard'. Other people suggest that if one monopolist is the only one to implement it, it is not a real standard (me for instance) .
And I certainly don't care that much if he is mentally wrecked from designing his display. mental instability is something you can claim for the judge and if granted gets you undefunite loonie-bin time instead of jailtime. The rest of us try to judge anything by its merits, not the mental state of the creator.
If you are a student you may make some mistakes in your time management, but if completing your studies makes it certain your mental state will suffer a lot, you and your uni are making some very serious mistakes. Personally I don't think it is that bad.
Pardon me, but wouldn't earth observing satelites react with the EarthNetworkMonitoringProtocol?
The space one is for the satelites looking the other way.
Yes I overlooked that one. There is more on his 'links' page, but that is a bit of a hodgepodge to me. If you submit your own article, at least you could acknowledge others work on the same subject. Citing your own paper again is just, well, egocentric. I wonder how many papers by himslef he cited in that paper?
Also, is it just me or is there not much invention in his device?
Since the submitter is the author of the article, I find it a bit upsetting that he does not show more links to information on his 'invention' or background written by others. Now it looks a bit like a bad egotrip.
If you had only read the summary better: If 18000 people vote for democrat candidates in other races, but in one race their votes are not counted, why would you think this is fraud by the democrats?
Hello dear gunnut,
we have had out little slapfest and sure it was fun. I could insinuate your are a fascist, and you could call me a liberal! btw, did you know that in my neck of the woods, liberal means the right wing (you know the money hoarding elite) of the political spectrum, makes you think eh?
And for the moderation points: maybe you should work a little on getting a good karma. It allows me to troll a little once in a while.
btw: did you put your money/life where your heart is and sing up for the military, or would that be too inconvenient?
Ha, some feed!
On average, recruits are more educated and well to do than the general population.
Statistically absurd. Compare it to a big company, not the population at large because that also includes the braindead etc. Even more, somebody that willingly signs up must be suicidal, depressed, hopeless or just plain dumb. Why don't you come and die for your country next?
Shot at? That comes with the job. And if your stupid enough to not expect it when joining, then join your friends in canada. Sure enough, that comes with the job. And that's why I think your are suicidal, depressed or just plain dumb when you sign up. And as for friends in canada, well, did you notice that my nationality is not american?
Blown up? War is war. And our boys do the best with what they have what what they are ordered to do. Personally? I think they being restained. Let em loose and let them do their job. At the moment, they are acting as 'peace keepers'. Not 'soldiers'.
They were not trained as social workers or abitrators. They should send in ACLU for that. (grin)
Yes, and it even is a war that the US started, so not remorse about some of them being blown up. It only makes it even more sad for the blown-up grunts and their family. Don't you think that it is quite unfair that some village idiot and his 'advisors' can start a war in their private interests, but it is somebody else taking the hits when it turns out not to be a good gamble?
I agree with you(!) that an army is not very good at peacekeeping. That army should never have been there in the first place.
Can we conclude from your snide ACLU comments that you are very willing to hand over your civil liberties? Go welcome your new overlords and tell them that you can be very usefull in rouding up fellow humans to work in their underground caves.
Oh.. A page for Sheehans book eh?
who is that?
A reminder buddy. Its the SOLDIER that gives you the right to say such things. Not your teacher, or the New York Times.
Its our boys in uniform that protect this country, its constitution and YOU.
Gosh, does that mean that the US has expanded its territories to Afganistan, Irak, and every other place they invaded, and that these places need to have their liberties protected against their evil inhabitants?
An army does not give any rights, it either just sits in their barracks and cost a lot of money for doing nothing, or it goes to war, seeds a lot of death and destruction and costs loads of money. No army has given me any rights. The country(state) I am in does so, and those rights have nothing to do with a grunt with a gun or a cowardly general. As for those boys with uniform fetishes that 'protect' your country: tell me, when was the last time it was invaded? Or when was the even the remotest threat that that might happen? So, if it is not against an evil enemy, who does your country need to be protected from. Its own civilians perhaps? And why does FEMA have concentration camps ready on standby? Bad news boy, your papa is on the red list for toughtcrimes.
Thank you very much for letting me blow off some steam, was it as good for you as it was for me?