What does this mean? OO.org is doing great. It's getting better all the time, faster, more features, better interfaces; it's at the forefront of innovation. Pretty much everyone I know uses it, my parents, my professors, my friends. In my experience everyone that tries it loves it and the fact that they don't have to pay $300 to Microsoft is just icing on the cake.
OpenOffice dates back to 1984 when StarDivision created a word processor called StarWriter for the Z80. That's 5 years before the first version of MS Office
I will not assume that everyone/. reader is a ham or knows what they are talking about.
Considering the capabilities of HF to cross borders I could see some international issues there, but what if we just deregulated everything about 30Mhz? WiFi works. We have ways to make self healing mesh networks that can work with large numbers of nodes. It's the type of technology on which the Internet is based.
Why must I be forced to use 2.4 GHz for my wireless networks? It barely goes through walls, and is pretty close to the same frequency I use to cook a hotpocket. I acknowledge that it is at much lower power levels, but the affects of non-thermal radiation exposure on cellular damage and mutation is very controversial and not well understood. What I mean by this is effective radiated power levels that are less than is needed to actually heat a cell, but within the range to possibly interact with our bodies on a molecular level.
I'd rather not have that near my crotch, so I do not use WiFi in my home.
It is a fundamental law that bandwidth is directly proportional to the amount of information sent. This is called the Nyquist-Shannon theory. CW (morse code) uses the least amount of bandwidth possible, it is simply a continuous sine wave modulated on and off. Voice communication uses much more bandwidth, because more information is present in the signal. AM gives a richer sound. SSB is uses less but is not as robust, and broadcast FM uses the most because you have a signal that is not prone to static and is in stereo. Sending video requires even more.
The higher the frequency, the more bandwidth is available. MF (medium frequency) is 300 kHz to 3 MHz. That's 700 kHz of bandwidth. HF (high) is 3 MHz to 30Mhz. VHF (very high) is 30 Mhz to 300 Mhz. UHF (ultra high) is 300 MHz to 3 GHz. As you can see this amount of bandwidth increases exponentially. The EM spectrum is not limited, except by the capabilities of our equipment which is constantly increasing.
There are two primary types of spread spectrum. Direct sequence is lowering the power of the signal at any particular frequency but also increasing the amount of bandwidth that the signal is spread over. Frequency hopping uses algorithms such as pseudo-random-number generators to quickly change the frequency the signal is transmitted on. If there to too much interference on one frequency, you just try the next number in the sequence. Both are much less susceptible to jamming which is why they are used by the military to prevent powerful foreign governments that are actively using all their resources to disrupt communication. Do you really think that individuals with malicious intent are going to be more effective than powerful militaries?
Cause burns? OK so it should be illegal to blast microwave death beams at people. I'm talking about using communication to bring people together, not develop weapons. We have the military for that. DSP and spread spectrum and high gain beam antennas are technologies that work to decrease the noise floor and decrease the amount of effective radiated power needed. We are not employing these to the best advantage because of archaic laws and regulations. The noise floor mostly comes from solar and cosmic radiation, how are you going to regulate that?
Every frequency has different propagation properties. Do you really think that someone is going to be blasting huge amounts of infrared energy at remote mountains in Hawaii? The only thing it would affect is projects like SETI that monitor broad ranges of longer wavelengths, but I think SETI is a fruitless effort and should not be used as an excuse to restrict the rights of humans that we know exist in the interest of hypothetical aliens. You do know that 700 mhz is basically line of sight, right? We need to be creating meshes of networks at a grassroots level instead of relying solely on business and government to provide for our needs.
The only thing special about 400-700 nm is that we have receptors (antennas you could crudely say) in our eyes that are tuned to this band and are processed by our brain. This is completely analogous to an antenna tuned to a different wavelength, and then processed by hardware and software. That is my point, we can process the RF now to the point where we can filter the interference from the useful information, in the same way our brain works to focus (in a mental sense, not optical) on particular aspects of what we see, even though we are bombarded by more light than we could ever possibly consciously comprehend.
As a licensed ham for half my life, I couldn't disagree with you more. The RF spectrum is the property of the people, and the FCC exists to regulate it in the interest of the public good. In the past it was a problem because modes of operation like AM, SSB (single side band), FM are prone to interference either malicious or unintentional.
We have the technology now to fight this problem. The only thing we lack is the innovation. The technology of the future would be based on homebrew inventions that amateur radio operators have pioneered over the years. This includes directional beam high gain antennas, digital packet modes of transmission, spread spectrum technology, public key encryption, and DSP (digital signal processing microchips).
Let us not forget that every radio wave is fundamentally just light. Different frequencies are simply different colors. It is philosophically absurd to regulate colors (although this is probably done too through intellectual property restrictions such as trademark and copyrights on shades of paint).
We have the technology. Almost all of it was created by hams. It is time to free the airwaves and give them back to the rightful owners, the people. This will usher in a new era of connectivity and communication that we can only begin to imagine.
b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three
years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your
cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete
machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be
distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium
customarily used for software interchange; or,
The part about a written offer might be a minor quibble, but you should be in the clear as long as you provide the source when someone asks for it. So you don't necessarily have to publish the source at the same time you release the binary if it is an oversight. As long as you include the license with the software and make it clear it is covered by the GPL, you should be legal by the letter of the license.
I'm glad that you are at least familiar, but I'm just curious about something. Are you refering you the pictures of the 'face' that were released in 1998 or the one released in 2001?
I'm not going to defend all of RCH's "theories", but I think the one from 2001 definitely *still* looks strange as hell and looks very much like a face. The one from 1997 is from a completely different perspective from the viking picture (it's upside down and slanted). I've shown the 2001 picture to several people and everyone admit that it is very facelike. My sister even identified the feline qualities of the image without me prompting her as to Hoagland's theory.
Never mind the 5-sided 'd&m' pyramid which is directly south of the 'face'. I certainly don't see mountains like that on earth and have a hard time thinking how something with that geometry could form through geologic processes.
Are you being honest with me about the 'fossil'? Have you looked at it closely? It seems to me that they didn't take a cross section, they ground it up, simple. You can see the structure, then its gone.
I really hate to respond to my own post, but several people have replied questioning how NASA could have any motive behind some covering something up.
I think that some of this is very naive thinking. It seems you live in a microcosm where you have absolute faith that science will always prevail, the truth is apparent, etc, etc.
You completely underestimate the power of Christian fundamentalists in this country (good ol' USA). I'm serious. These people have power and more importantly they have a lot of votes. The idea of life on other planets is severely offensive to them.
Read the "Brooking's Report". Read it again. This is a very important document and the last official word from our government on ETs. Remember before this the air force was publicly investigating UFOs.
There are many 'revelations' that would cause widespread chaos and panicing. It's just a fact.
In turns of funding. Well guess what, NASA is getting paid, has gotten paid quite well the past 20 years for (imo) very little real exploration and science, and they will continue to get paid as long as they string us along.
Also RCH has been one of they most vocal persons advocating and organizing the saving of the Hubble Space Telescope. Personally I think it is a travesty they are going to let this instrument go to waste instead of upgrading it and continuing to service and use it. The telescope has given us more and more amazing data every year, and there are telescopes on earth that have been around a long time because you can upgrade telescopes and the equipment used to analyze the data.
Think about it, NASA wants to send a man to the moon and mars, but they are too chicken shit to send a shuttle up there to boost the HST? Nevermind that going to the HST is much safer than going to the ISS (for reasons I won't get into here), but surely it is safer than flying to mars and progress always requires a level of risk.
IMO, this alone should be evidence that NASA and the people in charge of it do not always have the public's best interest at heart. There are some fantastic scientists at NASA, no doubt about it. The problem is the world is not run by scientists, and for the most part NASA isn't either.
You should have heard the show last night. Two guys were on saying that 97% of population is going to die this year. We need to build underground bunkers, buy their books & videotapes etc.
Well they were on last month saying the same thing, and the purpose of last night's (this morning actually) show was that the fellow who has had these visions supposedly met with Sister Lucia, the Carmelite nun who is the last surviving witness to the Fatima miracles.
The fellow said he met with the nun for 5 minutes, but wouldn't tell us what she said because it was personal! George told him he would not allow him and his audience to be exploited in this manner and cut off both guests in the middle of the show! I think it showed a tremendous amount of integrity.
Guests on c2c do not get paid so in general they are allowed to plug their website or book but they cannot use it to scam people. The topics on the show are not presented as the only objective truth but rather many different viewpoints that a person can listen to, be entertained, and make up their own mind.
Sometimes I find art gets a little over his head with highly scientific or technological discussions, which is funny because hes a genius radio engineer. He hosts the show, runs the board, reads the commercials, takes the calls, all from his trailer in the middle of the Nevada desert and all by himself! How many of you could do that? He has never allowed himself to be influenced by the suits, and how many DJs distributed by ClearChannel can you say that about?
The show covers a wide range of topics. Many of the topics are not and will not be covered by any other major media. I think it is a valuable service and certainly entertaining. I think both George and Art though, make it abundantly clear that the rule of caveat emptor always applies.
I'm extremely disapointed in the reactions here. The space.com article was clearly a character assasination of Hoagland. RCH doesn't expect you do believe every rock on his website, but if you have an open mind then you can see that some of the stuff he points out is quite strange indeed. All that RCH advocates is that some of these things be investigated instead of being ignored, or covered up by NASA.
The picture of the fossil featured on RCH's site recently is one of the most incredible pictures I've ever seen. And guess what, NASA refuses to talk about it and they ground the damn thing into dust!!!.
Is that what we expect from our tax dollars? We send an $800 million mission to mars to see if there used to be water there? We KNOW that there is water up there NOW already!
The problem with these so-called 'debunkers' is that they don't look at things objectively with an open mind, they already have their mind made up before they start. They then use disinformation and character assassination.
If Plait is so righteous, why does he refuse to debate RCH on the facts? Who is the real scientist and who is persuing the truth. Wait and see.
Diet coke is lighter than water. Regular coke is heavier than water.
This can be verified with two appropriate cans and a bucket of water. I am assuming that the weight of the can itself is not significant, and this seems reasonable.
I don't post often but I really wish I could mod you up. It is going to take revolutionary thinking for our global society to cope with a relvolutionary situation. I encourage everyone to think about these issues on a fundamental level. You might start with "What is the purpose of intellectual property?" and follow with "Who is the current system benefiting?"
One assumption that I make is that the human spirit is basically good. I assume that if I meet a person for the first time they have a sense of right and wrong and respect for the world. However large structures are in place that work to divide and conquer the populace in order to keep everything under the control of the powerful. Cooperation can be a beautiful thing.
Well I've rambled enough but extra credit if you can connect this to the civil War on Drug(s) users. But maybe that is too political for this forum.
an ac above posted this link. I'm still not quite convinced, as their main argument seems to be that form of plutonium is *impossible* to fission.
Well we are talking about a lot of material under pressures (within jupiter) that I'm pretty sure havn't been tested at that level on earth. Perhaps 238 just needs more material/pressure than we have tested it at, but when it does go off the reaction could be gigantic.
Noone seems to be talking about the danger that there are 40 pounds of Plutonium-238 (the most volatile form) on board this craft. Plunging into ever increasing pressure, no one knows for sure if this will cause a chain reaction, but the potential energy and temperatures are enormous.
It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.
I agree, good call. He keeps talking about wanting to have some gui program to configure his system. To truly learn how to configure your system you have to get a shell, go into/etc and edit files.
your mouse should work through USB. What the thumb button does is send an XEvent that the button has been pressed and released. I think the trouble is that most programs ignore the 4th or 5th button. It may be configurable in some games and applications.
Given the state of science and biology in particular. It is entirely possible and perhaps even likely that if the human race is not extinct by then , a large number of us will still be alive. If I live to 50 I will see 500. That is why I live so recklessly.
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What does this mean? OO.org is doing great. It's getting better all the time, faster, more features, better interfaces; it's at the forefront of innovation. Pretty much everyone I know uses it, my parents, my professors, my friends. In my experience everyone that tries it loves it and the fact that they don't have to pay $300 to Microsoft is just icing on the cake.
OpenOffice dates back to 1984 when StarDivision created a word processor called StarWriter for the Z80. That's 5 years before the first version of MS Office
Ahh, sorry, the joke went completely over my head the first time
This article is actually a dupe of that one
I will not assume that everyone /. reader is a ham or knows what they are talking about.
Considering the capabilities of HF to cross borders I could see some international issues there, but what if we just deregulated everything about 30Mhz? WiFi works. We have ways to make self healing mesh networks that can work with large numbers of nodes. It's the type of technology on which the Internet is based.
Why must I be forced to use 2.4 GHz for my wireless networks? It barely goes through walls, and is pretty close to the same frequency I use to cook a hotpocket. I acknowledge that it is at much lower power levels, but the affects of non-thermal radiation exposure on cellular damage and mutation is very controversial and not well understood. What I mean by this is effective radiated power levels that are less than is needed to actually heat a cell, but within the range to possibly interact with our bodies on a molecular level.
I'd rather not have that near my crotch, so I do not use WiFi in my home.
It is a fundamental law that bandwidth is directly proportional to the amount of information sent. This is called the Nyquist-Shannon theory. CW (morse code) uses the least amount of bandwidth possible, it is simply a continuous sine wave modulated on and off. Voice communication uses much more bandwidth, because more information is present in the signal. AM gives a richer sound. SSB is uses less but is not as robust, and broadcast FM uses the most because you have a signal that is not prone to static and is in stereo. Sending video requires even more.
The higher the frequency, the more bandwidth is available. MF (medium frequency) is 300 kHz to 3 MHz. That's 700 kHz of bandwidth. HF (high) is 3 MHz to 30Mhz. VHF (very high) is 30 Mhz to 300 Mhz. UHF (ultra high) is 300 MHz to 3 GHz. As you can see this amount of bandwidth increases exponentially. The EM spectrum is not limited, except by the capabilities of our equipment which is constantly increasing.
There are two primary types of spread spectrum. Direct sequence is lowering the power of the signal at any particular frequency but also increasing the amount of bandwidth that the signal is spread over. Frequency hopping uses algorithms such as pseudo-random-number generators to quickly change the frequency the signal is transmitted on. If there to too much interference on one frequency, you just try the next number in the sequence. Both are much less susceptible to jamming which is why they are used by the military to prevent powerful foreign governments that are actively using all their resources to disrupt communication. Do you really think that individuals with malicious intent are going to be more effective than powerful militaries?
Cause burns? OK so it should be illegal to blast microwave death beams at people. I'm talking about using communication to bring people together, not develop weapons. We have the military for that. DSP and spread spectrum and high gain beam antennas are technologies that work to decrease the noise floor and decrease the amount of effective radiated power needed. We are not employing these to the best advantage because of archaic laws and regulations. The noise floor mostly comes from solar and cosmic radiation, how are you going to regulate that?
Every frequency has different propagation properties. Do you really think that someone is going to be blasting huge amounts of infrared energy at remote mountains in Hawaii? The only thing it would affect is projects like SETI that monitor broad ranges of longer wavelengths, but I think SETI is a fruitless effort and should not be used as an excuse to restrict the rights of humans that we know exist in the interest of hypothetical aliens. You do know that 700 mhz is basically line of sight, right? We need to be creating meshes of networks at a grassroots level instead of relying solely on business and government to provide for our needs.
The only thing special about 400-700 nm is that we have receptors (antennas you could crudely say) in our eyes that are tuned to this band and are processed by our brain. This is completely analogous to an antenna tuned to a different wavelength, and then processed by hardware and software. That is my point, we can process the RF now to the point where we can filter the interference from the useful information, in the same way our brain works to focus (in a mental sense, not optical) on particular aspects of what we see, even though we are bombarded by more light than we could ever possibly consciously comprehend.
As a licensed ham for half my life, I couldn't disagree with you more. The RF spectrum is the property of the people, and the FCC exists to regulate it in the interest of the public good. In the past it was a problem because modes of operation like AM, SSB (single side band), FM are prone to interference either malicious or unintentional.
We have the technology now to fight this problem. The only thing we lack is the innovation. The technology of the future would be based on homebrew inventions that amateur radio operators have pioneered over the years. This includes directional beam high gain antennas, digital packet modes of transmission, spread spectrum technology, public key encryption, and DSP (digital signal processing microchips).
Let us not forget that every radio wave is fundamentally just light. Different frequencies are simply different colors. It is philosophically absurd to regulate colors (although this is probably done too through intellectual property restrictions such as trademark and copyrights on shades of paint).
We have the technology. Almost all of it was created by hams. It is time to free the airwaves and give them back to the rightful owners, the people. This will usher in a new era of connectivity and communication that we can only begin to imagine.
They are assholes who can't speak like normal people
b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or,
The part about a written offer might be a minor quibble, but you should be in the clear as long as you provide the source when someone asks for it. So you don't necessarily have to publish the source at the same time you release the binary if it is an oversight. As long as you include the license with the software and make it clear it is covered by the GPL, you should be legal by the letter of the license.
I'm glad that you are at least familiar, but I'm just curious about something. Are you refering you the pictures of the 'face' that were released in 1998 or the one released in 2001?
I'm not going to defend all of RCH's "theories", but I think the one from 2001 definitely *still* looks strange as hell and looks very much like a face. The one from 1997 is from a completely different perspective from the viking picture (it's upside down and slanted). I've shown the 2001 picture to several people and everyone admit that it is very facelike. My sister even identified the feline qualities of the image without me prompting her as to Hoagland's theory.
Never mind the 5-sided 'd&m' pyramid which is directly south of the 'face'. I certainly don't see mountains like that on earth and have a hard time thinking how something with that geometry could form through geologic processes.
Are you being honest with me about the 'fossil'? Have you looked at it closely? It seems to me that they didn't take a cross section, they ground it up, simple. You can see the structure, then its gone.
I really hate to respond to my own post, but several people have replied questioning how NASA could have any motive behind some covering something up.
I think that some of this is very naive thinking. It seems you live in a microcosm where you have absolute faith that science will always prevail, the truth is apparent, etc, etc.
You completely underestimate the power of Christian fundamentalists in this country (good ol' USA). I'm serious. These people have power and more importantly they have a lot of votes. The idea of life on other planets is severely offensive to them.
Read the "Brooking's Report". Read it again. This is a very important document and the last official word from our government on ETs. Remember before this the air force was publicly investigating UFOs. There are many 'revelations' that would cause widespread chaos and panicing. It's just a fact.
In turns of funding. Well guess what, NASA is getting paid, has gotten paid quite well the past 20 years for (imo) very little real exploration and science, and they will continue to get paid as long as they string us along.
Also RCH has been one of they most vocal persons advocating and organizing the saving of the Hubble Space Telescope. Personally I think it is a travesty they are going to let this instrument go to waste instead of upgrading it and continuing to service and use it. The telescope has given us more and more amazing data every year, and there are telescopes on earth that have been around a long time because you can upgrade telescopes and the equipment used to analyze the data.
Think about it, NASA wants to send a man to the moon and mars, but they are too chicken shit to send a shuttle up there to boost the HST? Nevermind that going to the HST is much safer than going to the ISS (for reasons I won't get into here), but surely it is safer than flying to mars and progress always requires a level of risk.
IMO, this alone should be evidence that NASA and the people in charge of it do not always have the public's best interest at heart. There are some fantastic scientists at NASA, no doubt about it. The problem is the world is not run by scientists, and for the most part NASA isn't either.
You should have heard the show last night. Two guys were on saying that 97% of population is going to die this year. We need to build underground bunkers, buy their books & videotapes etc.
Well they were on last month saying the same thing, and the purpose of last night's (this morning actually) show was that the fellow who has had these visions supposedly met with Sister Lucia, the Carmelite nun who is the last surviving witness to the Fatima miracles.
The fellow said he met with the nun for 5 minutes, but wouldn't tell us what she said because it was personal! George told him he would not allow him and his audience to be exploited in this manner and cut off both guests in the middle of the show! I think it showed a tremendous amount of integrity.
Guests on c2c do not get paid so in general they are allowed to plug their website or book but they cannot use it to scam people. The topics on the show are not presented as the only objective truth but rather many different viewpoints that a person can listen to, be entertained, and make up their own mind.
Sometimes I find art gets a little over his head with highly scientific or technological discussions, which is funny because hes a genius radio engineer. He hosts the show, runs the board, reads the commercials, takes the calls, all from his trailer in the middle of the Nevada desert and all by himself! How many of you could do that? He has never allowed himself to be influenced by the suits, and how many DJs distributed by ClearChannel can you say that about?
The show covers a wide range of topics. Many of the topics are not and will not be covered by any other major media. I think it is a valuable service and certainly entertaining. I think both George and Art though, make it abundantly clear that the rule of caveat emptor always applies.
I'm extremely disapointed in the reactions here. The space.com article was clearly a character assasination of Hoagland. RCH doesn't expect you do believe every rock on his website, but if you have an open mind then you can see that some of the stuff he points out is quite strange indeed. All that RCH advocates is that some of these things be investigated instead of being ignored, or covered up by NASA.
The picture of the fossil featured on RCH's site recently is one of the most incredible pictures I've ever seen. And guess what, NASA refuses to talk about it and they ground the damn thing into dust!!!.
Is that what we expect from our tax dollars? We send an $800 million mission to mars to see if there used to be water there? We KNOW that there is water up there NOW already!
The problem with these so-called 'debunkers' is that they don't look at things objectively with an open mind, they already have their mind made up before they start. They then use disinformation and character assassination.
If Plait is so righteous, why does he refuse to debate RCH on the facts? Who is the real scientist and who is persuing the truth. Wait and see.
Diet coke is lighter than water. Regular coke is heavier than water.
This can be verified with two appropriate cans and a bucket of water. I am assuming that the weight of the can itself is not significant, and this seems reasonable.
I don't post often but I really wish I could mod you up. It is going to take revolutionary thinking for our global society to cope with a relvolutionary situation. I encourage everyone to think about these issues on a fundamental level. You might start with "What is the purpose of intellectual property?" and follow with "Who is the current system benefiting?"
One assumption that I make is that the human spirit is basically good. I assume that if I meet a person for the first time they have a sense of right and wrong and respect for the world. However large structures are in place that work to divide and conquer the populace in order to keep everything under the control of the powerful. Cooperation can be a beautiful thing.
Well I've rambled enough but extra credit if you can connect this to the civil War on Drug(s) users. But maybe that is too political for this forum.
an ac above posted this link. I'm still not quite convinced, as their main argument seems to be that form of plutonium is *impossible* to fission.
Well we are talking about a lot of material under pressures (within jupiter) that I'm pretty sure havn't been tested at that level on earth. Perhaps 238 just needs more material/pressure than we have tested it at, but when it does go off the reaction could be gigantic.
I wouldn't call that a discussion. Log in coward.
Noone seems to be talking about the danger that there are 40 pounds of Plutonium-238 (the most volatile form) on board this craft. Plunging into ever increasing pressure, no one knows for sure if this will cause a chain reaction, but the potential energy and temperatures are enormous.
It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.
I agree, good call. He keeps talking about wanting to have some gui program to configure his system. To truly learn how to configure your system you have to get a shell, go into /etc and edit files.
your mouse should work through USB. What the thumb button does is send an XEvent that the button has been pressed and released. I think the trouble is that most programs ignore the 4th or 5th button. It may be configurable in some games and applications.
you are confused. 'think of the children' is the refrain they use to take away the rights of adults, not to keep kids safe.
Given the state of science and biology in particular. It is entirely possible and perhaps even likely that if the human race is not extinct by then , a large number of us will still be alive. If I live to 50 I will see 500. That is why I live so recklessly.
fine, you are right. At least wait until she is 8 before you let her at the power-saw and blowtorch, ok?