I don't know about now... but I got a free upgrade to 10.4 about 8 months later... when I bought my mac they sent a thing with the book that said I get free upgrades for a year
don't know if they still do this but they did last year
I've got a Treo 650 (not even the newest treo.. pre windows)
In the conclusion they say "Web browsing on the iPhone is a paradigm shift, a completely different experience"...
The reasons they give:
-Full REAL web page loading
-Touch Screen interactivity with web page content
both things that are fully functional on my phone which came out like 3 years ago (November 2004).
let me also add that internet connection speed is not really ready for full web pages on cellphones (or atleast my network isn't). However the genius' at google still recognize my phone as a phone instead of a computer (unlike any other site I've visited) and have a feature that chops up web pages into multiple pages of a quickly loadable size.
If a standard computer monitor would be capable of producing the same effect...
if so it'll be pretty quick that someone just video tapes one of these things and puts it into a new type of virus/even a web site... here you are cruising the internet and next thing u know your puking on your keyboard
it wouldn't shock me if they put out their own version of Linux...
a really stripped down customized distro (which they'd have no problem redistributing)
then add a bunch of features but have them packaged separate as proprietary executables that way they can sell it and not have to redistribute the core of their code... that's what I'd do if I were M$
(although I'll say I hope that never happens)
if we can't get there...
I know 300 light years away... not possible in a human life time...
Every time I read something like this I can't help but wonder why we keep looking farther and farther instead of spending the resources learning how to travel farther/faster/more efficiently...
maybe it's just me but I think being able to get better means of travel is more important than finding things that would take over 300 years to get to traveling at the very fastest possible speed that sciences says would be possible.
maybe we should be spending all of our resources trying to break the "Special Theory of Relativity"
woo-hoo show me superluminal travel
I think they should make everyone strip down but naked... then hose them off incase they are coated in hazardous material then use a colonoscopy scope to probe them until it comes out the persons mouth. once your done with that burn their clothing and possessions and then give them a hospital gown for slap them on their still sore from probing ass and say... "Enjoy your flight!":-)
yea 3 oz being able to kill people is imaginary... do some research...
You do the math...
One gram of anthrax about 0.04 ounces, or the weight of two paper clips -- contains enough doses to kill 10
million people.
Botulinum toxin is one of the most poisonous substances known. The lethal dose is one billionth of a gram per kilogram, meaning that breathing in 70 billionths of a gram would kill a person weighing 70 kilograms or 154 pounds. The toxin is fatal within three days to 80 percent of those exposed.
I don't travel out of the US by plane... I'd love to don't get me wrong... just haven't
ANYWAYS
to those of you who have... how does other countries airline security stack up against ours... ruder/more polite... amount of time of search... shoes?... etc... just compare and contrast 'cause i'm curious
most liquid explosives are made of unstable molecules. These complex molecules break down into ordinary, stable molecules when exposed to the right stimulus. Even a very minor shock can start the process, and since it involves the breaking of atomic bonds, it releases enormous amounts of energy.
The terrorists most likely intended to remove the explosives from their carry-on luggage and detonate them while the planes were over the Atlantic Ocean. They may have planned to use explosives that require the mixing of two different liquids in order to start the reaction. Unnamed sources have stated that the attackers planned to mix a liquid dyed to resemble a sports drink with a peroxide gel to create an explosive substance.
According to other sources, the attackers intended to use triacetone triperoxide, which can be made from readily available substances like hydrogen peroxide, acetone and acid. Like nitroglycerin, triacetone triperoxide molecules are made of hydrogen, oxygen and carbon. When it explodes, it breaks down into large amounts of ozone and acetone.
hmm.. the guy who talks about dragons coming out of bottles gets "4, insigtful" and the guy who started this comment thread gets "0, you suck at life"
people don't get it.. it's not meant to STOP anything.. nothing STOPS ANYTHING
I fence deters people... those things at the doors of stores that beep if us teal deter people... a firewall on your computer is a deterrent. can people still climb a fence, steal from the store, and break into your computer.... YES...does it atleast somewhat reduce the likelyhood of these things happening... YES
they do what they can to reduce the risk without totally destroying their business
there was a machine a little while back on the news that could scan your whole body... BUT the operator see's you as if you are naked.. and it does multiple layers.. and they can search for things on and inside of you head to toe... it would eliminate the need for taking off your shoes..etc... I have no idea what it was called or if it was economically feasible I just remember seeing it on the news.. and they were asking people on the street and everyone was freaking out 'cause they didn't want some security person seeing them naked. I say put them in.. make 2 lines... the people willing to walk through that will be much faster everyone not willing to can go through the slow process of being searched
PS.. if anyone knows of or can find the machine i'm talking about and could post a link or something that'd be great
my score got reduced??... (not that I really care).but.. why... sure you might not AGREE with what I posted BUT it's "interesting" obviously very "interesting" since it caused this many replys
I AM playing the devil's advocate here...
Do I want my colon searched no.. will that ever really happen.. I DOUBT it... based on time and money alone
DO I think that we are safe? absolutely not
Do I think we are safer then if there was NO search... YES
and as for the "big piles of possible explosives sitting next to the check point" it's a numbers game... we aren't people to our government we are numbers.. yea it sucks.. but it's an organized way to solve problems if that goes of at the terminal it will kill hundreds if it goes off in the plane.. probably a few more.. if it's used to gain control of a plane and crash it into a building... ALOT... not to mention nation wide mass hysteria
you know what.. Like you say if someone wants to do something they will... period.. if they are determined enough they'll get it done... like your computer if someone wants to get into it badly enough I don't care how many passwords and safety measures you have there is someone who can get through it eventually... so lets just stop using passwords and encryption and firewalls.. period
and as far as the 12 oz of hairspray thing... It's just too hard to tell the difference if they had something at the gate that could break down the chemical formula of the contents of every container you tried to bring on the plane that'd be great. HOWEVER from my knowledge of chemistry (which is honestly fairly limited) that would be impossible in any sort of reasonable time span.
I can't argue with that... That is absolutely true...
however... it raises the question what can we do to fix it?... just stop searching and act like it never happened just to save pride and say that we didn't lose to the terrorists?
ok so I assume the freedom you're speaking of is protection from illegal search and seizure WHICH would apply if they were smashing in your front door and going through your stuff HOWEVER when you decide to fly just like anyone else you offer to allow them to search you. It honestly can't violate your freedom because you have every right to refuse AKA don't fly... take a car/train/boat.
Which you're gonna say BUT I'm going from New York to Hong Kong that would take FOREVER by boat.. and even longer by car:-D... well then just f'in deal with being searched then... travel sized stuff is cheap... when I fly I don't bring any shampoo/soap/deodorant/other cosmetic products... I just go buy a bunch of little travel sized things when I get there it's under $10 and it avoids a big part of what everyone is complaining about.
I'd rather be inconvenienced and safe then killed in an avoidable plane crash...
YES... they go over board but put yourself in the shoes of the person at the gate doing the inspections... FOR ONE THING they're obviously going to be extra careful and stop things that aren't necessarily "dangerous" because honestly would you want to be the person at the gate that let the guy on the plane with the weapon/bomb/whatever. ALSO they're dealing with people who are tired of waiting and bitch for 8 hours (or whatever their shift is) straight... honestly how polite would you be after passenger number 9999999 gives u an attitude for doing your job.
the 3 oz thing... well it doesn't have to be a bomb.. I imagine a 3 oz container of some sort of chemical or biological substance could do some serious damage.
one thing I will admit however the shoe things sucks... it's needed but it could be done a little more polite as brought up by "mi" earlier it would be great if they'd just give you disposable shoes so you're not standing their bare foot or even if they had like a little roll of that paper stuff doctors use on their beds so you can stand on it while u wait for them too inspect your shoes then tear it off and pull out a fresh piece for the next person... it wouldn't take too long. and it'd make alot of people more comfortable
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I don't know about now... but I got a free upgrade to 10.4 about 8 months later... when I bought my mac they sent a thing with the book that said I get free upgrades for a year
don't know if they still do this but they did last year
we should be against any merger of this size...
and we thought the AOL-Time Warner merge was big...
oh to make pres. bush puke his brains out on TV from a 100 yards
...not that that would even come close to the embarrassment he's brought on himself sans puking
you know what.. nevermind
Geico ...so easy even 8 million year old bacteria can do it
I've got a Treo 650 (not even the newest treo.. pre windows)
...
In the conclusion they say "Web browsing on the iPhone is a paradigm shift, a completely different experience"
The reasons they give:
-Full REAL web page loading
-Touch Screen interactivity with web page content
both things that are fully functional on my phone which came out like 3 years ago (November 2004).
let me also add that internet connection speed is not really ready for full web pages on cellphones (or atleast my network isn't). However the genius' at google still recognize my phone as a phone instead of a computer (unlike any other site I've visited) and have a feature that chops up web pages into multiple pages of a quickly loadable size.
If a standard computer monitor would be capable of producing the same effect...
;-)
if so it'll be pretty quick that someone just video tapes one of these things and puts it into a new type of virus/even a web site... here you are cruising the internet and next thing u know your puking on your keyboard
Well the internet had a good run
if we do this we have a very good method of launch....
...lets say... 20,000 feet and goes off I imagine it won't do good things to us.
Obviously if it gets outside of our atmosphere and the bomb goes off not that big of a deal...
if it takes off from the launch pad gets to whatever doesn't matter...
I must also say... yea I live in the US... but if I lived anywhere else I don't think I'd want us putting nukes in orbit.
just my ~0.0145 Euros
Wiki's make the best manuals
..
when properly implemented
clear, concise, to the point, easy to search
and when new problems arise they're easy to add
With this you'd have to add a whole new realm or player class just to tackle the issue and stay with the theme
non-geeks probably wouldn't be able to read past the first page anyways... make Preparation ... BLAH!!
it wouldn't shock me if they put out their own version of Linux... a really stripped down customized distro (which they'd have no problem redistributing) then add a bunch of features but have them packaged separate as proprietary executables that way they can sell it and not have to redistribute the core of their code... that's what I'd do if I were M$ (although I'll say I hope that never happens)
if we can't get there... I know 300 light years away ... not possible in a human life time...
Every time I read something like this I can't help but wonder why we keep looking farther and farther instead of spending the resources learning how to travel farther/faster/more efficiently...
maybe it's just me but I think being able to get better means of travel is more important than finding things that would take over 300 years to get to traveling at the very fastest possible speed that sciences says would be possible.
maybe we should be spending all of our resources trying to break the "Special Theory of Relativity"
woo-hoo show me superluminal travel
I think they should make everyone strip down but naked... then hose them off incase they are coated in hazardous material then use a colonoscopy scope to probe them until it comes out the persons mouth. once your done with that burn their clothing and possessions and then give them a hospital gown for slap them on their still sore from probing ass and say... "Enjoy your flight!" :-)
3" seemed like a good limit back in the day
box cutters are under 3"
I never said I feel "safe" just safer... and i'm not saying alot safer either
life isn't safe...if I wanted to be safe i'd curl up in a ball in the corner of a bomb shelter somewhere
basically it's only a minor inconvenience and you are all a bunch of whiners...
imagining?
yea 3 oz being able to kill people is imaginary... do some research...
You do the math...
One gram of anthrax about 0.04 ounces, or the weight of two paper clips -- contains enough doses to kill 10 million people.
Botulinum toxin is one of the most poisonous substances known. The lethal dose is one billionth of a gram per kilogram, meaning that breathing in 70 billionths of a gram would kill a person weighing 70 kilograms or 154 pounds. The toxin is fatal within three days to 80 percent of those exposed.
-copied from an article in the New Your Times-
I don't travel out of the US by plane... I'd love to don't get me wrong... just haven't
... amount of time of search... shoes?... etc... just compare and contrast 'cause i'm curious
ANYWAYS
to those of you who have... how does other countries airline security stack up against ours... ruder/more polite
Taken from Liquid Explosives article on how stuff works
most liquid explosives are made of unstable molecules. These complex molecules break down into ordinary, stable molecules when exposed to the right stimulus. Even a very minor shock can start the process, and since it involves the breaking of atomic bonds, it releases enormous amounts of energy.
The terrorists most likely intended to remove the explosives from their carry-on luggage and detonate them while the planes were over the Atlantic Ocean. They may have planned to use explosives that require the mixing of two different liquids in order to start the reaction. Unnamed sources have stated that the attackers planned to mix a liquid dyed to resemble a sports drink with a peroxide gel to create an explosive substance.
According to other sources, the attackers intended to use triacetone triperoxide, which can be made from readily available substances like hydrogen peroxide, acetone and acid. Like nitroglycerin, triacetone triperoxide molecules are made of hydrogen, oxygen and carbon. When it explodes, it breaks down into large amounts of ozone and acetone.
hmm.. the guy who talks about dragons coming out of bottles gets "4, insigtful" and the guy who started this comment thread gets "0, you suck at life"
.... YES ...does it atleast somewhat reduce the likelyhood of these things happening... YES
..etc... I have no idea what it was called or if it was economically feasible I just remember seeing it on the news.. and they were asking people on the street and everyone was freaking out 'cause they didn't want some security person seeing them naked. I say put them in.. make 2 lines... the people willing to walk through that will be much faster everyone not willing to can go through the slow process of being searched
people don't get it.. it's not meant to STOP anything.. nothing STOPS ANYTHING
I fence deters people... those things at the doors of stores that beep if us teal deter people... a firewall on your computer is a deterrent. can people still climb a fence, steal from the store, and break into your computer
they do what they can to reduce the risk without totally destroying their business
there was a machine a little while back on the news that could scan your whole body... BUT the operator see's you as if you are naked.. and it does multiple layers.. and they can search for things on and inside of you head to toe... it would eliminate the need for taking off your shoes
PS.. if anyone knows of or can find the machine i'm talking about and could post a link or something that'd be great
OK...
.but.. why... sure you might not AGREE with what I posted BUT it's "interesting" obviously very "interesting" since it caused this many replys
my score got reduced??... (not that I really care)
I AM playing the devil's advocate here...
Do I want my colon searched no.. will that ever really happen.. I DOUBT it... based on time and money alone
DO I think that we are safe? absolutely not
Do I think we are safer then if there was NO search... YES
and as for the "big piles of possible explosives sitting next to the check point" it's a numbers game... we aren't people to our government we are numbers.. yea it sucks.. but it's an organized way to solve problems if that goes of at the terminal it will kill hundreds if it goes off in the plane.. probably a few more.. if it's used to gain control of a plane and crash it into a building... ALOT... not to mention nation wide mass hysteria
you know what.. Like you say if someone wants to do something they will... period.. if they are determined enough they'll get it done... like your computer if someone wants to get into it badly enough I don't care how many passwords and safety measures you have there is someone who can get through it eventually... so lets just stop using passwords and encryption and firewalls.. period
sounds good
and as far as the 12 oz of hairspray thing... It's just too hard to tell the difference if they had something at the gate that could break down the chemical formula of the contents of every container you tried to bring on the plane that'd be great. HOWEVER from my knowledge of chemistry (which is honestly fairly limited) that would be impossible in any sort of reasonable time span.
agreed... we all die...
you may get hit by a car today...
but if you don't look both ways for cars before crossing the street...
I'd say you highly increase the chance of getting hit by one
pardon me... I'd rather be inconvenienced and safe THAN killed in an avoidable plane crash... better? geeze
I can't argue with that... That is absolutely true... however... it raises the question what can we do to fix it? ... just stop searching and act like it never happened just to save pride and say that we didn't lose to the terrorists?
ok so I assume the freedom you're speaking of is protection from illegal search and seizure WHICH would apply if they were smashing in your front door and going through your stuff HOWEVER when you decide to fly just like anyone else you offer to allow them to search you. It honestly can't violate your freedom because you have every right to refuse AKA don't fly... take a car/train/boat. Which you're gonna say BUT I'm going from New York to Hong Kong that would take FOREVER by boat.. and even longer by car :-D ... well then just f'in deal with being searched then... travel sized stuff is cheap... when I fly I don't bring any shampoo/soap/deodorant/other cosmetic products... I just go buy a bunch of little travel sized things when I get there it's under $10 and it avoids a big part of what everyone is complaining about.
I'd rather be inconvenienced and safe then killed in an avoidable plane crash...
YES... they go over board but put yourself in the shoes of the person at the gate doing the inspections... FOR ONE THING they're obviously going to be extra careful and stop things that aren't necessarily "dangerous" because honestly would you want to be the person at the gate that let the guy on the plane with the weapon/bomb/whatever. ALSO they're dealing with people who are tired of waiting and bitch for 8 hours (or whatever their shift is) straight... honestly how polite would you be after passenger number 9999999 gives u an attitude for doing your job.
the 3 oz thing... well it doesn't have to be a bomb.. I imagine a 3 oz container of some sort of chemical or biological substance could do some serious damage.
one thing I will admit however the shoe things sucks... it's needed but it could be done a little more polite as brought up by "mi" earlier it would be great if they'd just give you disposable shoes so you're not standing their bare foot or even if they had like a little roll of that paper stuff doctors use on their beds so you can stand on it while u wait for them too inspect your shoes then tear it off and pull out a fresh piece for the next person... it wouldn't take too long. and it'd make alot of people more comfortable