Not really much funnier. The whole gamut of unobtainable items is represented by $VAR, conjuring up images of 48qb machines with unlimited states, rocket cars, and personal teleporters.
Also, both of you are cowards for posting AC. Why not revel in your inane, bantering ways instead of shamefully concealing them?
Canon's P&S cameras suck like the rest. The Canon EOS cameras are very nice, with major design consistency between models. I can move from an A2E to a 1nHS to my new 10D without thinking about the fact that I might have moved from film to digi. All cameras share functionality including being able to move AF to the * button (to the right of the viewfinder), the thumb wheel and finger wheel combos, etc. There are a few inconsistencies, such as the DOF preview being on opposite sides of the lens mount on the 10D and 1n, and being a spot in the viewfinder in the A2E that one simply looks at to activate. The designs are much more intelligent that Nikon, who seems to want to reinvent the camera user interface with each different model they have, and the whizzy Minolta designs (they feel, well, too whizzy).
Point and shoot cameras are like waffle irons - they're all pretty similar. Sony's designs are terrible, especially their 'high-end' 707 / 717 'Cybershot'
Unfortunately for most of the world outside of SoCal, Ikea is at least a few hundred miles away. I live in Portland, and consider myself to be closer than people, say, in the Midwest.
Apple are little bitches like that when it comes to SoCal store density vs. the rest of the Union, or World for that matter.
We already have the technology. We have for a very long time. It's called public key cryptography. The "MS is the Devil" reaction is similar to horses being afraid of rattlesnakes. It's an adaptation that favors survival, born from countless years of hard experience, just like MSphobia. People are afraid of MS for very good reasons. MS is a federally convicted purjuror, monopolist, and a bully of epic proportions. They are untrustworthy, and creat shoddy products that are unreliable. They have proven time and time again, with utter consistancy, that their interests come first, and the people / other companies be DAMNED!
For most of the APIs the names are the same. The drawing and OpenGL and Carbon (bleargh!) APIs, along with Quicktime and AudioUnits are the different ones. Most applications would be quite portable between the two. And with NextStep as well, as I know from having a FreeBSD GNUstep box, a PA/RISC system running NS 3.3 and my TiG4.
Porting apps is quite trivial if portability is considered as a design factor.
I'm sure they are frantically copying Linux (and probably some GNU) software into the SCO code. It's also possible that some of the newer technology that SCO kind of grafted on in the past decade or so could be Linux code as well. Within the realm of closed-source OSs there might be much GNU code to be found.
Of course, I can never be proven 1 or 0 until we see the code.
It might be aesthetically nicer to hear your TTS in a more human voice, but the advantage of the current crop of voices (especially Bruce and Fred) is that one can speed them up to the fastest setting and understand them with a little practice. Try 'reading' slashdot that way sometime!
We all know that MS always sticks to its plan, and never deviates from course!
Bah! They are famous for leaving features out. The point is that longhorn isn't competition yet because it doesn't exist yet as a usable system. It is, from what I can ascertain, a bunch of documentation, and promises about XML and.net, with maybe some code running as GUI hacks on top of XP.
Actually, you can download everything but Carbon and Cocoa essentially, in an open source distribution approved by Richard Stallman his very self, and run another implementation of the Openstep standard, which OS X is an implementation of, called GNUstep, and write programs that will compile fine on each one.
So, I guess I just added some chemical flame retardant to the 'fuel' you added to the other comment. Enjoy.
Another interesting API is the virtual DSP. Kind of in mothballs still from hardware with DSP ports like the slab and the cube (at least I get this feeling that it is) it has nevertheless been fully virtualized for OS X.
OS X actually gets significantly faster with each release, in stark contrast with another commercial OS which I could name. It just feels better, too. At least with the spinning beach ball of death I know it'll stop eventually, and we are just having little altercations in object-land or whatever. XP has hung on me unexpectedly, usually during heavy load, on multiple systems just like its predecessors, yet I say a guy running 10.2 reasonably fast on his old Powerbook G3 (pismo, i think?).
I am just waiting for a more mature squeak interface to Cocoa. Then I will be in Nirvana.
OS 9 sucked for certain reasons, but was still a lot more stable than even Windows 2K with good tuning. OS X is great, though. You are missing out if you have been turned off to them forever.
The notion of the personality behind certain technology isn't stupid. Doug Englebart, Vennevar Bush, Alan Turing and other people including, yes, Steve Jobs and even Bill Gates (but probably not Ballmer) have made their marks on computing as a whole. You are pretty ignorant if you think that a personality can't have an affect on your computer, or toaster for example. Have you ever heard of Tesla or Edison?
The "botique" look is being copied (2 years late, I might add) by every 2 bit PC manufacturer out there, and do you see their shareholders lining up and filing minority lawsuits? Fuck no, because Apple has been doing great in this fucked economy.
I would also argue that my 13 month old "botique" powerbook is quite a bit more stable and usable, than my newer, top of the line Media Center Edition XP machine from HP! It's also easier to program in Objective C than C++, and quite a bit more powerful IMHO, multihomes automatically, can interface with at least 16 different kinds of digital cameras, both pro SLR and consumer WITHOUT driver upgrades or installation of ANY kind, ditto with any video camera with a 1394 port and iMovie, etc. Which is one reason why the newer Macs are attracting a different crowd than the old Macs. You've got your mind made up, however, so have fun fondling dross and calling it gold, buddy!
They had a Mac with a DSP built-in back in the day. The Quadra A/V! It blasted the shit out of most any other computer when it came to Photoshop - rivaling modern computers for some tasks.
Dude, feature creep made Ultima 7 the best RPG OF ALL TIME! The ability to fuck around by, for example, reaping wheat, grinding it into flour, and baking the flour into bread, and selling it was the most priceless feature U7 had! Similarly, the amount of spit shine on GTA:VC is what makes it glow! There is a difference between simple software bloat / poor code or architecture management and actual complicated but beautiful design.
Everybody I've seen who has been sat down in front of a Mac found it hopelessly confusing and non-intuitive.
Come on, now. Did this group of people include exclusively retards and people with severe cognative disorders, or what? Shit, strike that, when I went to school (which was 'mainstreamed, or more plainly we had retarded kids and other severely disabled students in some classes with us) many of the Downs Syndrome kids were quite proficient at using the Macs, come to think of it! So, when you say you 'sat down' these people, did you really just wheel non-responsive vegetables and coma victims in front of a disused Mac 128k or something?
I have yet to meet a normal person who couldn't learn how to use a mac in ten minutes, and I haven't met a person who used one for more than a month or so who didn't like it better than a PC. Especially since OS X.
Y'know, I have no idea why this keeps coming up. Assuming you buy from a reputable vendor, the only time you have hardware problems with a PC is if you do upgrades manually, or if something breaks (rare). The fact that Macs have a reputation for good integration is mostly marketing - if you go down to your local PC World and walk out with a new box, that'll work just fine too. If you then try and plug in ancient or super new hardware in an attempt to recycle stuff for instance, then yeah, you might get breakage. But that happens with Macs too, the only reason you don't see it is because there is practically no upgrade path outside of buying a new machine.
Your point, please? So both Macs and PCs break occasionally. With Apple it's usually NOT a hassle to get customer service. With many other companies, you encounter all kinds of BS. Like HP. If you delete the stupid XP restore partition, you will have to buy a DVD-ROM from them to reinstall a copy of Windows that you already bought! And why don't PC users balk at the $400 price tag of XP 'pro' (a questionably worse option than the older Win2K) when Mac folks shout and kick and scream at a paltry $129 fee for a vastly improved OS? It's because Windows users are so used to being fucked in the ass by MS!
Sorry, but you are trolling here. Apple aren't chasing Windows because regardless of what the majority of users want, their existance is justified in their customers eyes by the fact that they are different. People just take it as read that different equals better, despite a lack of compelling (objective) evidence to the contrary. Go read some usability reviews of MacOS X by long time users of the platform.
I call you out as a counter-troll. Apple's current vision is largely Steve Jobs vision right now. He has had a knack for pursuing and marketing great technology and quite frankly isn't as neurotic as Bill and isn't a has-been frat boy like Ballmer. Apple isn't just motivated by money, they are motivated by the money you can get by having the best computer available. Not the fastest necessarily, because the system is only as good as the weakest component. But the most integrated, capable platform out there(we're talking software and hardware integration here people)! Not just money.
CPU architectures have nothing to do with driver instability, nor mixing hardware. That would only be an issue if Apple tried to write a PC version (as opposed to an x86 version) of MacOS, but hey, you know what? The world is a messy place. People don't upgrade their hardware because they like screwing about with drivers, they do it because they want to play Doom 3 but they don't want to buy a whole new machine when 80% of it is still just fine. If they don't know what they're doing the end result is mess and instability, but pretending people don't want to do that is the reason PCs dominated in the first place.
If your old desktop Mac lacks an AGP bus, you are probably screwed, but if you have a newer Mac which needs more balls in the video department, there are quite a few options! The reason that the Mac's current drivers tend to be very stable is that they are written with the IOKit, which is very VERY easy to use!
Not quite just an alternative window manager, it's a hacked Mach running the IOKit , with a BSD interface on top of Mach and a bunch of BSD and GNU apps along with an updated Openstep called with Cocoa, with the display engine ripped out and replaced by the (for this task anyway) functionally superior PDF-based Aqua / Quartz stuff. It's really quite modular - one can leave out the BSD during the installation process by choosing Custom... and unchecking the 'BSD Subsystem' option (for that backup OS X installation to the iPod, for example), and customize the system in innumerable other ways. It truly feels like home to me!
Not only does vecLib support the AltiVec unit, but software built with this interface will run fine on G3 systems, too, so the programmer never has to worry about the target platform's vector processor. I would imagine that one will be able to take advantage of the 2 FPUs without changing a single bit of code, making any existing app using vecLib run much faster WITHOUT a recompile!
Now you begin to comprehend the power of ObjectiveC. Its runtime is not rocket-fast (but gets faster with every update from apple) but is solid as fuck! I can't believe how ugly C++ is in comparison. I have sworn it off completely after being introduced to nirvana!
Neither one is accurate. Office 'X' is just a Carbon app - the lowliest slime on the Mac platform except for possibly RealBASIC apps. The fact that it is a Carbon app almost certainly dates it to an older Mac OS as its original platform - no sane person would use the garbage that is Carbon unless cercumstances made it otherwise impossible (ie porting an app made for OS 7.5.x / 8.x).
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Yeah, but can they compete with Windows Media Center Edition XP, where the program guide + everything else is free?
Didn't think so.
One would have to be on crack to think that Apple will move to X86.
Why cripple themselves and be just another PC clone? Jobs learned his lesson well with NeXT. Don't expect him to make the same mistake twice.
"And while I'm at it, I want a pony."
Not really much funnier. The whole gamut of unobtainable items is represented by $VAR, conjuring up images of 48qb machines with unlimited states, rocket cars, and personal teleporters.
Also, both of you are cowards for posting AC. Why not revel in your inane, bantering ways instead of shamefully concealing them?
Canon's P&S cameras suck like the rest. The Canon EOS cameras are very nice, with major design consistency between models. I can move from an A2E to a 1nHS to my new 10D without thinking about the fact that I might have moved from film to digi. All cameras share functionality including being able to move AF to the * button (to the right of the viewfinder), the thumb wheel and finger wheel combos, etc. There are a few inconsistencies, such as the DOF preview being on opposite sides of the lens mount on the 10D and 1n, and being a spot in the viewfinder in the A2E that one simply looks at to activate. The designs are much more intelligent that Nikon, who seems to want to reinvent the camera user interface with each different model they have, and the whizzy Minolta designs (they feel, well, too whizzy).
Point and shoot cameras are like waffle irons - they're all pretty similar. Sony's designs are terrible, especially their 'high-end' 707 / 717 'Cybershot'
I would argue that the lighted buttons and strong backlight really made the new iPod.
Unfortunately for most of the world outside of SoCal, Ikea is at least a few hundred miles away. I live in Portland, and consider myself to be closer than people, say, in the Midwest.
Apple are little bitches like that when it comes to SoCal store density vs. the rest of the Union, or World for that matter.
We already have the technology. We have for a very long time. It's called public key cryptography. The "MS is the Devil" reaction is similar to horses being afraid of rattlesnakes. It's an adaptation that favors survival, born from countless years of hard experience, just like MSphobia. People are afraid of MS for very good reasons. MS is a federally convicted purjuror, monopolist, and a bully of epic proportions. They are untrustworthy, and creat shoddy products that are unreliable. They have proven time and time again, with utter consistancy, that their interests come first, and the people / other companies be DAMNED!
Knee-jerk my ass. More like a hard-won lesson.
For most of the APIs the names are the same. The drawing and OpenGL and Carbon (bleargh!) APIs, along with Quicktime and AudioUnits are the different ones. Most applications would be quite portable between the two. And with NextStep as well, as I know from having a FreeBSD GNUstep box, a PA/RISC system running NS 3.3 and my TiG4.
Porting apps is quite trivial if portability is considered as a design factor.
I'm sure they are frantically copying Linux (and probably some GNU) software into the SCO code. It's also possible that some of the newer technology that SCO kind of grafted on in the past decade or so could be Linux code as well. Within the realm of closed-source OSs there might be much GNU code to be found.
Of course, I can never be proven 1 or 0 until we see the code.
It might be aesthetically nicer to hear your TTS in a more human voice, but the advantage of the current crop of voices (especially Bruce and Fred) is that one can speed them up to the fastest setting and understand them with a little practice. Try 'reading' slashdot that way sometime!
Is that the same A-10 that went 'missing' over Colorado a few years ago? I don't think they ever found that one.
We all know that MS always sticks to its plan, and never deviates from course!
.net, with maybe some code running as GUI hacks on top of XP.
Bah! They are famous for leaving features out. The point is that longhorn isn't competition yet because it doesn't exist yet as a usable system. It is, from what I can ascertain, a bunch of documentation, and promises about XML and
You can't really recycle a DVD. You can re-use it, and re-task it, but I don't think that there's a process for recycling them yet.
Actually, you can download everything but Carbon and Cocoa essentially, in an open source distribution approved by Richard Stallman his very self, and run another implementation of the Openstep standard, which OS X is an implementation of, called GNUstep, and write programs that will compile fine on each one.
So, I guess I just added some chemical flame retardant to the 'fuel' you added to the other comment. Enjoy.
Yeah, the Quicktime half.
Another interesting API is the virtual DSP. Kind of in mothballs still from hardware with DSP ports like the slab and the cube (at least I get this feeling that it is) it has nevertheless been fully virtualized for OS X.
OS X actually gets significantly faster with each release, in stark contrast with another commercial OS which I could name. It just feels better, too. At least with the spinning beach ball of death I know it'll stop eventually, and we are just having little altercations in object-land or whatever. XP has hung on me unexpectedly, usually during heavy load, on multiple systems just like its predecessors, yet I say a guy running 10.2 reasonably fast on his old Powerbook G3 (pismo, i think?).
I am just waiting for a more mature squeak interface to Cocoa. Then I will be in Nirvana.
OS 9 sucked for certain reasons, but was still a lot more stable than even Windows 2K with good tuning. OS X is great, though. You are missing out if you have been turned off to them forever.
The notion of the personality behind certain technology isn't stupid. Doug Englebart, Vennevar Bush, Alan Turing and other people including, yes, Steve Jobs and even Bill Gates (but probably not Ballmer) have made their marks on computing as a whole. You are pretty ignorant if you think that a personality can't have an affect on your computer, or toaster for example. Have you ever heard of Tesla or Edison?
The "botique" look is being copied (2 years late, I might add) by every 2 bit PC manufacturer out there, and do you see their shareholders lining up and filing minority lawsuits? Fuck no, because Apple has been doing great in this fucked economy.
I would also argue that my 13 month old "botique" powerbook is quite a bit more stable and usable, than my newer, top of the line Media Center Edition XP machine from HP! It's also easier to program in Objective C than C++, and quite a bit more powerful IMHO, multihomes automatically, can interface with at least 16 different kinds of digital cameras, both pro SLR and consumer WITHOUT driver upgrades or installation of ANY kind, ditto with any video camera with a 1394 port and iMovie, etc. Which is one reason why the newer Macs are attracting a different crowd than the old Macs. You've got your mind made up, however, so have fun fondling dross and calling it gold, buddy!
They had a Mac with a DSP built-in back in the day. The Quadra A/V! It blasted the shit out of most any other computer when it came to Photoshop - rivaling modern computers for some tasks.
Dude, feature creep made Ultima 7 the best RPG OF ALL TIME! The ability to fuck around by, for example, reaping wheat, grinding it into flour, and baking the flour into bread, and selling it was the most priceless feature U7 had! Similarly, the amount of spit shine on GTA:VC is what makes it glow! There is a difference between simple software bloat / poor code or architecture management and actual complicated but beautiful design.
Everybody I've seen who has been sat down in front of a Mac found it hopelessly confusing and non-intuitive.
Come on, now. Did this group of people include exclusively retards and people with severe cognative disorders, or what? Shit, strike that, when I went to school (which was 'mainstreamed, or more plainly we had retarded kids and other severely disabled students in some classes with us) many of the Downs Syndrome kids were quite proficient at using the Macs, come to think of it! So, when you say you 'sat down' these people, did you really just wheel non-responsive vegetables and coma victims in front of a disused Mac 128k or something?
I have yet to meet a normal person who couldn't learn how to use a mac in ten minutes, and I haven't met a person who used one for more than a month or so who didn't like it better than a PC. Especially since OS X.
Y'know, I have no idea why this keeps coming up. Assuming you buy from a reputable vendor, the only time you have hardware problems with a PC is if you do upgrades manually, or if something breaks (rare). The fact that Macs have a reputation for good integration is mostly marketing - if you go down to your local PC World and walk out with a new box, that'll work just fine too. If you then try and plug in ancient or super new hardware in an attempt to recycle stuff for instance, then yeah, you might get breakage. But that happens with Macs too, the only reason you don't see it is because there is practically no upgrade path outside of buying a new machine.
Your point, please? So both Macs and PCs break occasionally. With Apple it's usually NOT a hassle to get customer service. With many other companies, you encounter all kinds of BS. Like HP. If you delete the stupid XP restore partition, you will have to buy a DVD-ROM from them to reinstall a copy of Windows that you already bought! And why don't PC users balk at the $400 price tag of XP 'pro' (a questionably worse option than the older Win2K) when Mac folks shout and kick and scream at a paltry $129 fee for a vastly improved OS? It's because Windows users are so used to being fucked in the ass by MS!
Sorry, but you are trolling here. Apple aren't chasing Windows because regardless of what the majority of users want, their existance is justified in their customers eyes by the fact that they are different. People just take it as read that different equals better, despite a lack of compelling (objective) evidence to the contrary. Go read some usability reviews of MacOS X by long time users of the platform.
I call you out as a counter-troll. Apple's current vision is largely Steve Jobs vision right now. He has had a knack for pursuing and marketing great technology and quite frankly isn't as neurotic as Bill and isn't a has-been frat boy like Ballmer. Apple isn't just motivated by money, they are motivated by the money you can get by having the best computer available. Not the fastest necessarily, because the system is only as good as the weakest component. But the most integrated, capable platform out there(we're talking software and hardware integration here people)! Not just money.
CPU architectures have nothing to do with driver instability, nor mixing hardware. That would only be an issue if Apple tried to write a PC version (as opposed to an x86 version) of MacOS, but hey, you know what? The world is a messy place. People don't upgrade their hardware because they like screwing about with drivers, they do it because they want to play Doom 3 but they don't want to buy a whole new machine when 80% of it is still just fine. If they don't know what they're doing the end result is mess and instability, but pretending people don't want to do that is the reason PCs dominated in the first place.
If your old desktop Mac lacks an AGP bus, you are probably screwed, but if you have a newer Mac which needs more balls in the video department, there are quite a few options! The reason that the Mac's current drivers tend to be very stable is that they are written with the IOKit, which is very VERY easy to use!
Not quite just an alternative window manager, it's a hacked Mach running the IOKit , with a BSD interface on top of Mach and a bunch of BSD and GNU apps along with an updated Openstep called with Cocoa, with the display engine ripped out and replaced by the (for this task anyway) functionally superior PDF-based Aqua / Quartz stuff. It's really quite modular - one can leave out the BSD during the installation process by choosing Custom... and unchecking the 'BSD Subsystem' option (for that backup OS X installation to the iPod, for example), and customize the system in innumerable other ways. It truly feels like home to me!
Not only does vecLib support the AltiVec unit, but software built with this interface will run fine on G3 systems, too, so the programmer never has to worry about the target platform's vector processor. I would imagine that one will be able to take advantage of the 2 FPUs without changing a single bit of code, making any existing app using vecLib run much faster WITHOUT a recompile!
Now you begin to comprehend the power of ObjectiveC. Its runtime is not rocket-fast (but gets faster with every update from apple) but is solid as fuck! I can't believe how ugly C++ is in comparison. I have sworn it off completely after being introduced to nirvana!
Not really. Considering that the compiler is GCC, it would be easy.
Neither one is accurate. Office 'X' is just a Carbon app - the lowliest slime on the Mac platform except for possibly RealBASIC apps. The fact that it is a Carbon app almost certainly dates it to an older Mac OS as its original platform - no sane person would use the garbage that is Carbon unless cercumstances made it otherwise impossible (ie porting an app made for OS 7.5.x / 8.x).