looking at your whole post all i can think of is [[Citation Needed]] for all of the numbers and such. I have seen articles that quoted only a the area of arazona needs to be covered with "todays" (this was 4 or 5 years ago) solar panels in order to cover the energy costs of the US, including transportation of said energy. This was in the Physics Today magazine published by the American Physical Society. But what does a bunch of scientists know about this sort of thing? I'll hunt around for the article for ya.
We did, however, and so has many other nations around the world. France (and China as well iirc) freed themselves with guns. Many people have done so.
Also, since it piqued my interest, I hopped onto wikipedia and saw that while a lot of Indian independence was marked by Civil Disobedience there was more than a few guns fired in the pursuit of independence and unification of India.
true, they do not need to follow our example for getting where we are. however a quick look around shows that their oil consumption per capita has increased drastically in recent years, they were 125th or so in the world in 2001 or so, today they are 25th or higher(the latest date i saw was for them at 25th in 2004, who knows, they could have dropped in standing, i could be wrong)
Your forgetting that demand for oil will soon be driven not by the US economy but by the Indian and the Chinese economies. We may account for 25% of the worlds oil consumption but China accounts for almost 10%, and they are raising that very rapidly. They have openly said they want to provide the same standard of living that we enjoy here. China however has a little over 4 times as many people as we have and they are using less oil right now. what happens when they get up to using 50% of the amount of oil that we use per capita? That should mean they are using just about 40% of the worlds oil production then. We can not reduce our usage of oil enough to offset that. Even if we stop using oil that still means a the world would be consuming 5% more oil then than now. And that is not even considering the billion people in India raising their standard of living to ours at this moment.
There are simply too many people in this world that have been sold on the American dream. Everyone wants a slice of the pie but no one realizes that there isn't enough pie to go around.
I'm afraid that no matter what we do here demand will not be reduced to see the price of oil drop because there are more people than just us demanding it.
well if you can not understand our push to space then you have not read into anything about Asteroid Mining. see, there is a lot of material out there, far more than is on our little rock here. given that Jupiter is composed of almost entirely of hydrogen scooping off its atmosphere would be a wonderful source of the stuff that we would not have to refine at all. also i can not imagine that we would not find any nuclear fuels in space as well. given the abundance of resources within our solar system i can not see us living our constantly accelerating lives without at least puttering around our own solar system, if not going to the stars.
errr.. a public key can only be used to encrypt a message, your private key decrypts it. you tend to keep your private key someplace... private. so sure let the government come and grab my public key and use it to encrypt as much stuff as it wants! since i should be the only person with the private key only i will have the ability to decrypt said material and read it.
Hopefully more and more people will finally realize this. It truly irritates me when someone who has no rigorous training in physics comes up to me and rants on about how all this crazy stuff is possible just because they saw a show about it on the discovery channel or read an article in popular mechanics. things like needing to prove the assertion there are more than 3 spacial dimensions completely pass them by and they jump to the end conclusion.
it is nice that the crazy assertions do inspire a curiosity and wonder about the universe, that it just might inspire a few people to walk the path of the physicist. but i still wish we taught our general public enough about the world for them to look at all of this and ask
wait a second here, have you proved any of this? or are you just talking about some math that you wrote on the back of a bar napkin one day that just happens to equal out? cause i can 'prove' that 1 = 2 for sufficiently large values of 1
I thought it a better answer than, what I do in my private time is my affair and not something that I feel the need to broadcast to the world nor to/. and neither to you.
If it is more comfortable for me to be an anonymous coward in the eyes of anyone else that will be just fine. no government likes the words armed insurrection when mentioned by its populous. if I were the paranoid sort I would be sure that I am on a few watch lists. I like to believe that our government is more blundering than malevolent, well I hope that it is anyways.
my father liked to posit that we have a revolution every 4 - 8 years here in the states, I'm not too sure that I feel the same way. to be more direct no I have not lived in a place where there are frequent revolutions of the violent sort, do they live better? no, not how we measure standard of living here at least. are they more free? thats debatable as well. is it preferable being a consumer rather than a citizen? some days I do wonder about that.
You know what would be really cool? If we had this more flexible form of government where every so often we forcibly have a revolution, where we basically scrap the whole damned thing and start over again with the one precept that the new government has to allow its self to be destroyed in the same manner once it no longer meets the needs of the people. that would be so cool. we could make a over reaching set of rules that every one of these governments would have to follow. we could start with something catchy like "We The People" and go from there. include a provision to allow the people to forcibly remove those in power from power. yeah it'd be a party.
now only if we could convince the people at large that it is a good idea to have a revolution every 50 years or so.
The United States was not meant to be forever. Jefferson said before he died that he was amazed that we didn't burn the constitution by then and write something better.
while i agree that taxation of companies is really only a tax on consumers i disagree that flooding the market with oil will solve anything. we have china and india both desperately trying to get up to the standard of living in the us. the us uses 25% of the worlds oil supply. we have 300 million people in the us. india has 1000 million. china has 1600 million people. for everyone in both china and india to be at the same level as us it would be safe to assume that they would need about (1000+1600 = 2600, 2600/300 = 8.6) 8 times the amount of oil that we use. granted they wont ramp up to that consumption of oil over night however the more oil you flood onto the market the easier it is made so that they can push there faster. if we use a quarter of the oil produced right now and china and india together want to use 8 times what we use (this number will prolly only be like 5 times our usage imo) then they would be using more oil than is produced in the world today. china currently only uses about 8% of the worlds oil, japan comes in 7%. india at 3%. it is not that we're running out of oil that is killing us. it is that countries like china and india are ramping up to do exactly as we do. we simply can not produce enough oil to feed us and the rest of the world and maintain the cheap prices we've always had. when demand's growth out strips the supply then the price will rise.
Granted that I am confusing at times but i didn't think i was being that complex. I was using Seattle as an example of a city that did not fund the exodus to the suburbs and as such has maintained a healthier economy and infrastructure than most cities in the us. one has to look no further than any city in the rust belt of new york to see first hand what happens when a city funds projects outside of its city limits. and yes cities do fund projects outside of their city limits. its sad but it does happen and a lot more often than we would care to admit. Seattle has been rated for many years now as one of the top 10 best cities to live in, one of the reasons being because it does not skimp on its own infrastructure. one has to just look at seattle's city limits to see that, the development ends quite abruptly.
The only reason why this is is because we were sold on the idea of living in the suburbs 50 years ago and the cities funded most of that movement of their tax base to the suburbs with all the money there were supposed to spend on infrastructure. cities like seattle that never spent a dime outside of its own city limits have an amazing infrastructure. we were sold a consumerist dream and bought it hook line and sinker. now its time to pay up and we're going to have to go back to the way we were before this whole fiasco and live in the cities close to our works and stay the hell out of other peoples business.
I wonder what Washington and his lot would be labeled if they did the same today as they did in the 1700's. If that happened today would we remember them in 300 years as heroes or terrorists?
Wait we did go after Hussein when he invaded other countries, that was the 1st Iraq war in the early 90's. Just what did he do to provoke the ire of the great United States before we swerved from Afghanistan to Iraq? He was attacking what other country then? Don't get me wrong, Hussein was a Bad Guyâ in my book. But at the time that we attacked his nation and hanged him I can't honestly see anything that he did wrong other than abusing his own people. IF we, the United States, are going to be in the business of deposing despots who hurt their own people then I think we're going to be pretty busy for the next century or so what with the abuses China, North Korea, Chili(well I'm personally not to sure on that one), Cuba, etc., etc., etc. We can not be the police to the world, Bad People do Bad Things and theres is naught we can do to fix the whole of it. At worse we should fix our selves before we go crusading across the globe fixing everyone else. I mean where the hell were we when millions were being murdered in Darfur?
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looking at your whole post all i can think of is [[Citation Needed]] for all of the numbers and such. I have seen articles that quoted only a the area of arazona needs to be covered with "todays" (this was 4 or 5 years ago) solar panels in order to cover the energy costs of the US, including transportation of said energy. This was in the Physics Today magazine published by the American Physical Society. But what does a bunch of scientists know about this sort of thing? I'll hunt around for the article for ya.
mmmm pr0n in seattle, will this be a guarantee that these hot girls from my area _really_ are from my area ?? ^_^
We did, however, and so has many other nations around the world. France (and China as well iirc) freed themselves with guns. Many people have done so.
Also, since it piqued my interest, I hopped onto wikipedia and saw that while a lot of Indian independence was marked by Civil Disobedience there was more than a few guns fired in the pursuit of independence and unification of India.
true, they do not need to follow our example for getting where we are. however a quick look around shows that their oil consumption per capita has increased drastically in recent years, they were 125th or so in the world in 2001 or so, today they are 25th or higher(the latest date i saw was for them at 25th in 2004, who knows, they could have dropped in standing, i could be wrong)
Your forgetting that demand for oil will soon be driven not by the US economy but by the Indian and the Chinese economies. We may account for 25% of the worlds oil consumption but China accounts for almost 10%, and they are raising that very rapidly. They have openly said they want to provide the same standard of living that we enjoy here. China however has a little over 4 times as many people as we have and they are using less oil right now. what happens when they get up to using 50% of the amount of oil that we use per capita? That should mean they are using just about 40% of the worlds oil production then. We can not reduce our usage of oil enough to offset that. Even if we stop using oil that still means a the world would be consuming 5% more oil then than now. And that is not even considering the billion people in India raising their standard of living to ours at this moment.
There are simply too many people in this world that have been sold on the American dream. Everyone wants a slice of the pie but no one realizes that there isn't enough pie to go around.
I'm afraid that no matter what we do here demand will not be reduced to see the price of oil drop because there are more people than just us demanding it.
well if you can not understand our push to space then you have not read into anything about Asteroid Mining. see, there is a lot of material out there, far more than is on our little rock here. given that Jupiter is composed of almost entirely of hydrogen scooping off its atmosphere would be a wonderful source of the stuff that we would not have to refine at all. also i can not imagine that we would not find any nuclear fuels in space as well. given the abundance of resources within our solar system i can not see us living our constantly accelerating lives without at least puttering around our own solar system, if not going to the stars.
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errr .. a public key can only be used to encrypt a message, your private key decrypts it. you tend to keep your private key someplace ... private. so sure let the government come and grab my public key and use it to encrypt as much stuff as it wants! since i should be the only person with the private key only i will have the ability to decrypt said material and read it.
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They must be stalking you!
Hopefully more and more people will finally realize this. It truly irritates me when someone who has no rigorous training in physics comes up to me and rants on about how all this crazy stuff is possible just because they saw a show about it on the discovery channel or read an article in popular mechanics. things like needing to prove the assertion there are more than 3 spacial dimensions completely pass them by and they jump to the end conclusion.
it is nice that the crazy assertions do inspire a curiosity and wonder about the universe, that it just might inspire a few people to walk the path of the physicist. but i still wish we taught our general public enough about the world for them to look at all of this and ask
wait a second here, have you proved any of this? or are you just talking about some math that you wrote on the back of a bar napkin one day that just happens to equal out? cause i can 'prove' that 1 = 2 for sufficiently large values of 1</rant>
I thought it a better answer than, what I do in my private time is my affair and not something that I feel the need to broadcast to the world nor to /. and neither to you.
I know of an old indian burial ground we can use to bring your dog back.
If it is more comfortable for me to be an anonymous coward in the eyes of anyone else that will be just fine. no government likes the words armed insurrection when mentioned by its populous. if I were the paranoid sort I would be sure that I am on a few watch lists. I like to believe that our government is more blundering than malevolent, well I hope that it is anyways.
my father liked to posit that we have a revolution every 4 - 8 years here in the states, I'm not too sure that I feel the same way. to be more direct no I have not lived in a place where there are frequent revolutions of the violent sort, do they live better? no, not how we measure standard of living here at least. are they more free? thats debatable as well. is it preferable being a consumer rather than a citizen? some days I do wonder about that.
You know what would be really cool? If we had this more flexible form of government where every so often we forcibly have a revolution, where we basically scrap the whole damned thing and start over again with the one precept that the new government has to allow its self to be destroyed in the same manner once it no longer meets the needs of the people. that would be so cool. we could make a over reaching set of rules that every one of these governments would have to follow. we could start with something catchy like "We The People" and go from there. include a provision to allow the people to forcibly remove those in power from power. yeah it'd be a party.
now only if we could convince the people at large that it is a good idea to have a revolution every 50 years or so.
The United States was not meant to be forever. Jefferson said before he died that he was amazed that we didn't burn the constitution by then and write something better.
while i agree that taxation of companies is really only a tax on consumers i disagree that flooding the market with oil will solve anything. we have china and india both desperately trying to get up to the standard of living in the us. the us uses 25% of the worlds oil supply. we have 300 million people in the us. india has 1000 million. china has 1600 million people. for everyone in both china and india to be at the same level as us it would be safe to assume that they would need about (1000+1600 = 2600, 2600/300 = 8.6) 8 times the amount of oil that we use. granted they wont ramp up to that consumption of oil over night however the more oil you flood onto the market the easier it is made so that they can push there faster. if we use a quarter of the oil produced right now and china and india together want to use 8 times what we use (this number will prolly only be like 5 times our usage imo) then they would be using more oil than is produced in the world today. china currently only uses about 8% of the worlds oil, japan comes in 7%. india at 3%. it is not that we're running out of oil that is killing us. it is that countries like china and india are ramping up to do exactly as we do. we simply can not produce enough oil to feed us and the rest of the world and maintain the cheap prices we've always had. when demand's growth out strips the supply then the price will rise.
Granted that I am confusing at times but i didn't think i was being that complex. I was using Seattle as an example of a city that did not fund the exodus to the suburbs and as such has maintained a healthier economy and infrastructure than most cities in the us. one has to look no further than any city in the rust belt of new york to see first hand what happens when a city funds projects outside of its city limits. and yes cities do fund projects outside of their city limits. its sad but it does happen and a lot more often than we would care to admit. Seattle has been rated for many years now as one of the top 10 best cities to live in, one of the reasons being because it does not skimp on its own infrastructure. one has to just look at seattle's city limits to see that, the development ends quite abruptly.
The only reason why this is is because we were sold on the idea of living in the suburbs 50 years ago and the cities funded most of that movement of their tax base to the suburbs with all the money there were supposed to spend on infrastructure. cities like seattle that never spent a dime outside of its own city limits have an amazing infrastructure. we were sold a consumerist dream and bought it hook line and sinker. now its time to pay up and we're going to have to go back to the way we were before this whole fiasco and live in the cities close to our works and stay the hell out of other peoples business.
but no more than 5ml!!
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I wonder what Washington and his lot would be labeled if they did the same today as they did in the 1700's. If that happened today would we remember them in 300 years as heroes or terrorists?
He's being repressed? Help! Help! We're being repressed!
Wait we did go after Hussein when he invaded other countries, that was the 1st Iraq war in the early 90's. Just what did he do to provoke the ire of the great United States before we swerved from Afghanistan to Iraq? He was attacking what other country then? Don't get me wrong, Hussein was a Bad Guyâ in my book. But at the time that we attacked his nation and hanged him I can't honestly see anything that he did wrong other than abusing his own people. IF we, the United States, are going to be in the business of deposing despots who hurt their own people then I think we're going to be pretty busy for the next century or so what with the abuses China, North Korea, Chili(well I'm personally not to sure on that one), Cuba, etc., etc., etc. We can not be the police to the world, Bad People do Bad Things and theres is naught we can do to fix the whole of it. At worse we should fix our selves before we go crusading across the globe fixing everyone else. I mean where the hell were we when millions were being murdered in Darfur?
is that still running? i thought it closed down a while ago.
that sounds amazingly crazy, and fun, and scary.