Hiding behind this excuse is totally unprofessional, and it is the reason why software programmers will continued to be looked down upon by other professionals. Yes there will be bugs, errors and mistakes. But there should be not a mistake in the DESIGN OF THE SOFTWARE.
I too have seen and spoken to RMS personally, and I have no objections to his hair, dress or speech. His speech is well-thought out and spiced with real world examples of propriety software licences hindering the practical solution of problems. All the jokes on slashdot about him being unwashed, being a pinko and all that is just plain cruel. To the fucking moderator who thought that funny, I'm seeing you in metamod.
Having a sense of humor means knowing when not to laugh at something, even if it was said in jest.
Don't get your hopes up about the GPL being validated. If SCO runs out of money, then the case will not be proven and again, as you said, the unclarified FUD can be spun anyway you want.
There is a legal concept that if part of a contract is deemed by a court not to be unenforceable, in some (but not all) cases, the remainder of the contract stands with the unenforceable parts removed.
This is interesting legal theory, but it is expressly not allowed by the GPL. In the very license itself, it states that you either accept the license wholly or not at all. You don't get to pick and choose.
You are reading him wrong. He is POINTING OUT that our problems are caused by the lack of self-control and moderation in many people. He in no way advocates it. If anything, this shows he understands it.
Dude, lighten up. If you've never heard of a variety of different logics, then you are ignorant. Or you've never heard of a HUMOROUS joke based upon logical contradiction, (with some contortions) have you?
Here's one in the same vein - a judge says that a man will be sentenced to a surprise death within the next seven days. The man argues like that: The last day of death is not surprising. So I cannot die on the last day. Having eliminated that day, I therefore cannot die on the next day. And so on, so I won't be executed. But yet he is. Explain where wrong step of his reasoning is.
Someone go to the SCO website. Download a copy of their Linux kernel from that website. Get a notary public or someone whose word is legally binding and unassailable to sign on when you downloaded it. The important thing is to establish it unequivocally that they are still distributing the code while declaring the the GPL is unenforceable.
Do it before they wise up to this. DO IT NOW, when their words are in contradiction to their aims. I'd do it in a heartbeat, but I don't know how to make it legal. Someone please help me out here.
If copyright violation isn't really theft, then IP isn't really property...
That's a complete non-sequitor. And there goes your argument. Meanwhile, for those of us who notice that copyright violation isn't theft, that property remains property, that intellectual property is misnamed, we are not confused, and can get on with arguing about real issues like: how much and how shall we enforce intellectual property rights?
[Cameraman] So that coke drinker is INSIDE? [Coke ad-man] Yeah, inside. [Cameraman] I can't believe it! [Ad man] We've got 5 satellites on to him. [Cameraman] That's not what I meant. [Ad man] Oh you mean you don't believe how he could be living in a room this small? [Cameraman] Of course. [Ad man] Go in and see! [[[[[ They break down the door and rush in. The room is really tiny, and is filled with brooms and messy pails. And down in a corner by the trash, is a crushed, discarded coke can. ]]]] [Ad man] But the satellites can't be wrong!
"Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely unintentional side effect."
In other words, Linus doesn't care about the collateral damage! Just like a terrorist! <falsetto> Oh the humanity, someone stop the terrorist!</falsetto>
I am not disagreeing with you. I'm just pointing out that sometimes, we are arguing over trivial issues, considering there is a big ton of spending that we are ignoring - the spending on WARFARE.
I said "bombs and missles" not "defense". "Warfare" is much closer to what I have in mind. You obviously have some emotional issues with respect to the topic of defense that you need to work out. I come from a country where its citizens are drafted for military conscription, so obviously, I have more knowledge of the difference between "bombs and missiles" vs "Defense R&D budget".
One should rename oneself to "The Wrong Person", run Kazaa, and watch with great amusing as the RIAA tries to sue The Wrong Person. Tape the whole sourt proceedings and put that on Kazaa.
Except that we DO have evidence that the mean temperature is rising. Whether that's due to our industries and chemical plants or not, is controversial issue.
Yes, the details of the implemntation would differ and this difference will be important. Therefore, why oppose DRM on principle or on grounds of idealogy?
That's exactly what I admire about Linus Torvalds. Not idealogical when it DOES NOT COUNT.
Let me try to help you. Consider what you can do with an WMV file you've downloaded off P2P. Next consider what you can do with the same file, now with DRM. Consider THAT difference.
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Hiding behind this excuse is totally unprofessional, and it is the reason why software programmers will continued to be looked down upon by other professionals. Yes there will be bugs, errors and mistakes. But there should be not a mistake in the DESIGN OF THE SOFTWARE.
So long and thanks for all the fish.
Having a sense of humor means knowing when not to laugh at something, even if it was said in jest.
Awww ... that just so lame.
Don't get your hopes up about the GPL being validated. If SCO runs out of money, then the case will not be proven and again, as you said, the unclarified FUD can be spun anyway you want.
This is interesting legal theory, but it is expressly not allowed by the GPL. In the very license itself, it states that you either accept the license wholly or not at all. You don't get to pick and choose.
You are reading him wrong. He is POINTING OUT that our problems are caused by the lack of self-control and moderation in many people. He in no way advocates it. If anything, this shows he understands it.
More people will be better.
Here's one in the same vein - a judge says that a man will be sentenced to a surprise death within the next seven days. The man argues like that: The last day of death is not surprising. So I cannot die on the last day. Having eliminated that day, I therefore cannot die on the next day. And so on, so I won't be executed. But yet he is. Explain where wrong step of his reasoning is.
The argument above can be avoided using temporal logic, but I won't bother. The above post was supposed to be +1 Funny.
Bye bye SCO. You have conclusively proven by elementary logicthat you are a liar.
Do it before they wise up to this. DO IT NOW, when their words are in contradiction to their aims. I'd do it in a heartbeat, but I don't know how to make it legal. Someone please help me out here.
Personally, I think Sean Connery ... oh wait, nevermind.
That's a complete non-sequitor. And there goes your argument. Meanwhile, for those of us who notice that copyright violation isn't theft, that property remains property, that intellectual property is misnamed, we are not confused, and can get on with arguing about real issues like: how much and how shall we enforce intellectual property rights?
Grow up and stop trolling.
[Cameraman] So that coke drinker is INSIDE?
[Coke ad-man] Yeah, inside.
[Cameraman] I can't believe it!
[Ad man] We've got 5 satellites on to him.
[Cameraman] That's not what I meant.
[Ad man] Oh you mean you don't believe how he could be living in a room this small?
[Cameraman] Of course.
[Ad man] Go in and see!
[[[[[ They break down the door and rush in. The room is really tiny, and is filled with brooms and messy pails. And down in a corner by the trash, is a crushed, discarded coke can. ]]]]
[Ad man] But the satellites can't be wrong!
Yes I know. It does not mean "false", but it's frequently used in comedy.
Then we risk arguing in a vacuum. A vacuum of perspective.
In other words, Linus doesn't care about the collateral damage! Just like a terrorist! <falsetto> Oh the humanity, someone stop the terrorist!</falsetto>
I am not disagreeing with you. I'm just pointing out that sometimes, we are arguing over trivial issues, considering there is a big ton of spending that we are ignoring - the spending on WARFARE.
I said "bombs and missles" not "defense". "Warfare" is much closer to what I have in mind. You obviously have some emotional issues with respect to the topic of defense that you need to work out. I come from a country where its citizens are drafted for military conscription, so obviously, I have more knowledge of the difference between "bombs and missiles" vs "Defense R&D budget".
One should rename oneself to "The Wrong Person", run Kazaa, and watch with great amusing as the RIAA tries to sue The Wrong Person. Tape the whole sourt proceedings and put that on Kazaa.
As opposed to what? That money being spent on Bombs and Missiles?
Except that we DO have evidence that the mean temperature is rising. Whether that's due to our industries and chemical plants or not, is controversial issue.
That's exactly what I admire about Linus Torvalds. Not idealogical when it DOES NOT COUNT.
Let me try to help you. Consider what you can do with an WMV file you've downloaded off P2P. Next consider what you can do with the same file, now with DRM. Consider THAT difference.