Some people still use hardware this old. There's a lot of really good uses for this sort of thing. But this software aside, I wish more companies would do this sort of thing.
For example I have a couple of old Macs, including an SE/30 here. You can pick them up for $5 at University surplus stores. All of them are running MacOS right now, because Apple gives away MacOS 7.5.3. But they still haven't started giving away A/UX, Apple's UNIX for Mac. The neat thing about A/UX is that it could still run most MacOS applications.
As I recall Apple won't even sell anyone the OS anymore, and even when they did it was $795. The point is, there's a lot of people out there that would like to try this software, and many wouldn't even mind paying a small fee for the right to download it. But to simply refuse to sell something anymore is just wasteful.
The Digital Millienium Copyright Act, while not applying to file formats or reverse engineering, DO apply to encryption. Now, you can go ahead and create and distribute your filter without a problem.
Now, the problem you MIGHT, run into, is if they decide to change this format with a small "bug fix" patch. They could provide to conversion utility for current users. This patch could simply apply trivial encryption to the files and you would be (legally) powerless to reverse engineer or "crack" it.
Just another reason the DMCA goes way beyond its bounds.
So, you would like a AMD duron version, an AMD athlon version, an Intel PI, II, III, and 4 versions of each and every operating system?
You mean like linux does? Where you can select your processor when compiling the kernel? Really how hard would it be for Microsoft include a couple of kernels each optimized for the processor its running on(Maybe they do this and I just don't know it? Please reply and let me know:)). And to turn your arguement around on you: So you would like to see different processors optimized for each and every OS?
This approach seems to get mod points in every article's comments.
Just put down everyone else and you get points. I wonder if I'll get some kind of bonus for putting down the put down. Wait, is that a double negative. By putting down the put down am I backing up the material which is being put down? My head hurts. Lets all notice I'm not posting Anon because I'm willing to stand behind my rambling, which like the parent is pretty off topic except for the last paragraph.
Last paragrah (the on topic part):
This was a decent movie, who cares about accuracy or what agenda who was trying to push. The point it this was a good movie you could go see with a few friends and not have to use a single brain cell to understand. He shoots that guy, that guy dies/falls-down/explodes. Great stuff!
This is new for NERDS. Not news for hippies, communists or radicals. Its what matters to nerds, and mainly, computer nerds. If you don't like what's reported here, stop reading it, go somewhere else. You know why don't care about the right of black people to vote or women to sit on juries?
Because they've had the right for almost 50 years, and because it has absolutley nothing todo with computers. And on your FBI comment. Ok, so they can't use what they collect in court. So now, they've read your email, and know you're upto something. So they investigate further, come up with a legal way to obtain a warrent, and start reading your email legally. If you really hate slashdot and its horrible left winged mind so much, leave. I'm NOT posting anon because I'm willing to take credit for my opinions and if i get modded down for it, well that moderator has to live with the fact they modded down a comment that didn't deserve it. In fact, this comment doesn't really need/deserve moderation at all, except maybe offtopic. I don't even mod anonymous cowards because they rarely deserve it.
So what is the technique? I don't see why this got modded interesting. Please tell us what you do so we may try it out. I'm not posting anon because I really want to know and most people(stupid people) don't read (Score: 0) posts.
Way to think one layer deep. If record companies didn't know how well used record stores worked they would have tried to sue them out of existance by saying that the license to listen to the music in non-transferable. The reason used music stores are around is because when people sell old music they tend to buy NEW MUSIC. Now i know this isn't you, and you're probably going to say that none of your friends do it either because you all hate the RIAA and read Slashdot everyday because you like your news to be true. But another news flash: the slashdot crowd isn't the majority. The fact is, we need these stupid laws gone, and so does the rest of the country, they just don't know it. But then again, who am I to talk, I hardly ever listen to music, I haven't bought a CD in years. I was really just trying to point out that only buying used music doesn't really help much. Try writing your congressman
If you use pine or some other command line client, or really any client you could do this:
1. Save all your old mail to a file other than the default.
2. PGP encrypt that file.
3. It would be pretty simple to write a script to first decrypt the file with a password and then launch your mail reader to read old mail from that file.
I know its not elegant or the perfect solution but it is much simpler than writing a client todo it. I know a lot of people will be talking about encrypted filesystems. The problem with this, is that your root or user password is usually much shorter than your PGP passkey. The second problem is that not everyone owns the system thier mail is stored on, you have to consider that with systems such as IMAP your mail is stored in TWO places.
I've never even considered encrypting my old mail, this is a very good idea. Good luck in finding a more elegant solution, and if you do please post it here!
Asm, while maybe not relevent right at this moment, may be useful sometime in the future. It is true it gives you a greater understanding of exactly what is going on if an error should occur. The other thing you might consider is: Do you really want to be a system admin for the rest of your life? An NT one no less?
If you're ever interested in progressing your career further you might consider picking up a programming language or three, asm might be a fun choice.
An admin friend of mine once said something to me that changed my mind about being interested in the admin field:
"Just wait until they figure out, we're just janitors for thier computers"
No, technology jobs at technology corps are not secure. Technology jobs at companies who's business is not technology are extremely secure. I work for a major US and international bank and I'm pretty bloody sure I'm not going anywhere.
At the momement, Slashdot, as well as many other Exodus hosted sites such as google and ebay are completely unreachable from many parts of the net. I'm typing this via lynx ssh'd into my account at ASU and I am for some reason able to reach them. It appears that anyone currently on the @home network is unable to reach exodus sites, as well as anyone on the axinet network. I can't confirm anyone else's problems but this is what I've seen.
At first I though thats what this story was refering to
the biggest problem with this would be matching the speed at which the tape player was going to the speed at which mp3 play back would occur. Also remember you're going from analog to digital there. What you would be doing is taking an analog recording and then essentially slowing it down. I'm assuming your asking because you also remember those old tape decks that could copy tapes really fast. Those worked by having to motors going at the same speed, so you still got the same recording on the same amount of tape. Here's 2 suggestions:
1. Hire a neighbor kid to sit at your computer while you're at work and do this, tell him you'll give him $40 and buy him a pizza if he'll change tapes and watch TV all day.
2. Use Musicmatch JukeBox.
There simplying isn't a good wat todo this without losing a lot of quality. Sorry =( but hey if you do come up with a way todo it, let us know!
Oh yeah, I'm sure you'll be able to get stuff real cheap now that this has made it to slashdot. Should have kept it to yourself. On a side note, if you want real cheap hardware checkout your local university surplus store, they usually have some real nifty things at reasonable prices.
I totally agree. I'm not a religous person, I belive everyone deserves to be treated equally. But the idea that everything we are changing these days is turning into something good is very wrong. There is a reason a child is called a child. There is a reason children aren't allowed to smoke or drink. Because they are too young to make these decisions by themselves, they can't judge right and wrong for themselves. How does a child know something is wrong without a real punishment, are you going to scold them and send them to thier room full of toys?
To the person who said all they learned was how to cover thier tracks. Well you were just a bad kid, you might have had bad parents, but, i doubt if your mommy had sat on her knee and said "Don't tease Susie she get sad" it would have helped. You would have said
"Yeah i know, its funny"
"But Jimmy Susie is crying, she doesn't like it when you call her a whore"
"Yeah i know, but she is, and its funny when she cries"
I got a pepper grinder, a bottle of pepper corns, a sweater from Target, a $8 box of legos, some printer paper and a $10 gas card. You ask me you...you made out damn well.
Now the real treat is all those holiday return policies that stores have. A word to all you Microsoft beta testers. You know that retail boxed copy of Windows XP Pro you got in the mail a couple weeks ago?
It's exactly the same as the ones on the shelf at CompUSA. hint hint.
Problem with that, is that you're easy to track when you setup a webserver.
They know your hostname, so they know your IP, so they know who owns your IP, so they know who to call to get your acct removed.
The nice thing about most file sharing services is that you can't see the IP of users, you have no idea who they are or where they're from. Sure, it's not that hard to find it out, but it's a bigger pain in the ass than nslookup
I really think the nature of this sort of thing is going to cause problems. Simply the way it is designed, free updates but pay for auto-updates. How long will it be until someone writes a few scripts and submits them to freshmeat. How long after than until someone goes over those scripts and says "Hey, I'm going to write a pretty GTK interface to this". And how long after that will it be until Ximian screams Bloody Murder(tm) and starts charging for ALL updates. At that point we'll have a Slashdot story, 10 Gazillon posters complaining about how they only pay once for Microsoft.
As much as i want this to work, because I like (but dont use) Ximian and don't want to see another OpenSource company go under. I know it won't. There's no way for them to sell boxed copies without giving it away for free online. What they really should consider is higher priced box copies, in which the price contains costs for boxing and production costs, but also a small amount that helps them make up the cost of bandwidth for the subscription service for say 6 months. Then they could put on the box FREE 6 MONTH SUBSCRIPTION. Or maybe partner up with RedHat to include something similar. As it stands I don't see people wanting to pay $120 a year todo automatic updates of something that is free right now. But, I wish Ximian good luck anD fortune in this and all other business endevors! You guys rock!
5 years is a good number, maybe a perfect number. For crimes of this nature, the amount of jail time is directly related to the amount of damage caused, and the cost to clean up that damage. I think for every hour of every sysadmin and user time lost in cleaning this up, they should rot in jail for an hour.
On top of that, these kids don't make the kind of money a sysadmin makes, an hour of thier life is actually much less valuble than that of a sysadmin. When someone wastes an hour of your life wouldn't you want to waste an hour of thiers?
And yeah kid do get drunk and hit people with cars, but chances are they didn't WANT to hit you with a car. In this case they WANTED to cause damage, they wanted to take away other people's time, the only intent of this was todo harm. For that there should be a severe punishment.
This isn't a matter of setting an example, its about punishing someone that did wrong
DEFCON he yells with a beer in each pocket and a bottle of coconut rum in hand. Wait were there hackers there? Who knows, but there's strippers and beer and that's all that matter. WE LOVE SHANNON!
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For example I have a couple of old Macs, including an SE/30 here. You can pick them up for $5 at University surplus stores. All of them are running MacOS right now, because Apple gives away MacOS 7.5.3. But they still haven't started giving away A/UX, Apple's UNIX for Mac. The neat thing about A/UX is that it could still run most MacOS applications.
As I recall Apple won't even sell anyone the OS anymore, and even when they did it was $795. The point is, there's a lot of people out there that would like to try this software, and many wouldn't even mind paying a small fee for the right to download it. But to simply refuse to sell something anymore is just wasteful.
Now, the problem you MIGHT, run into, is if they decide to change this format with a small "bug fix" patch. They could provide to conversion utility for current users. This patch could simply apply trivial encryption to the files and you would be (legally) powerless to reverse engineer or "crack" it.
Just another reason the DMCA goes way beyond its bounds.
There's been software around since windows 95 todo hibernate on desktops. I had an IBM desktop years ago that came with Hibernate support
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So, you would like a AMD duron version, an AMD athlon version, an Intel PI, II, III, and 4 versions of each and every operating system?
:)). And to turn your arguement around on you: So you would like to see different processors optimized for each and every OS?
You mean like linux does? Where you can select your processor when compiling the kernel?
Really how hard would it be for Microsoft include a couple of kernels each optimized for the processor its running on(Maybe they do this and I just don't know it? Please reply and let me know
I seriously need start doing this
This approach seems to get mod points in every article's comments.
Just put down everyone else and you get points. I wonder if I'll get some kind of bonus for putting down the put down. Wait, is that a double negative. By putting down the put down am I backing up the material which is being put down? My head hurts. Lets all notice I'm not posting Anon because I'm willing to stand behind my rambling, which like the parent is pretty off topic except for the last paragraph.
Last paragrah (the on topic part):
This was a decent movie, who cares about accuracy or what agenda who was trying to push. The point it this was a good movie you could go see with a few friends and not have to use a single brain cell to understand. He shoots that guy, that guy dies/falls-down/explodes. Great stuff!
This is new for NERDS. Not news for hippies, communists or radicals. Its what matters to nerds, and mainly, computer nerds. If you don't like what's reported here, stop reading it, go somewhere else. You know why don't care about the right of black people to vote or women to sit on juries?
Because they've had the right for almost 50 years, and because it has absolutley nothing todo with computers. And on your FBI comment. Ok, so they can't use what they collect in court. So now, they've read your email, and know you're upto something. So they investigate further, come up with a legal way to obtain a warrent, and start reading your email legally. If you really hate slashdot and its horrible left winged mind so much, leave. I'm NOT posting anon because I'm willing to take credit for my opinions and if i get modded down for it, well that moderator has to live with the fact they modded down a comment that didn't deserve it. In fact, this comment doesn't really need/deserve moderation at all, except maybe offtopic. I don't even mod anonymous cowards because they rarely deserve it.
So what is the technique? I don't see why this got modded interesting. Please tell us what you do so we may try it out. I'm not posting anon because I really want to know and most people(stupid people) don't read (Score: 0) posts.
I have a record store near me that doesn't sell any new music either, but they do give either ~$5 per CD store credit or $3 per CD of cash
Way to think one layer deep. If record companies didn't know how well used record stores worked they would have tried to sue them out of existance by saying that the license to listen to the music in non-transferable. The reason used music stores are around is because when people sell old music they tend to buy NEW MUSIC. Now i know this isn't you, and you're probably going to say that none of your friends do it either because you all hate the RIAA and read Slashdot everyday because you like your news to be true. But another news flash: the slashdot crowd isn't the majority. The fact is, we need these stupid laws gone, and so does the rest of the country, they just don't know it. But then again, who am I to talk, I hardly ever listen to music, I haven't bought a CD in years. I was really just trying to point out that only buying used music doesn't really help much. Try writing your congressman
If you use pine or some other command line client, or really any client you could do this:
1. Save all your old mail to a file other than the default.
2. PGP encrypt that file.
3. It would be pretty simple to write a script to first decrypt the file with a password and then launch your mail reader to read old mail from that file.
I know its not elegant or the perfect solution but it is much simpler than writing a client todo it. I know a lot of people will be talking about encrypted filesystems. The problem with this, is that your root or user password is usually much shorter than your PGP passkey. The second problem is that not everyone owns the system thier mail is stored on, you have to consider that with systems such as IMAP your mail is stored in TWO places.
I've never even considered encrypting my old mail, this is a very good idea. Good luck in finding a more elegant solution, and if you do please post it here!
Asm, while maybe not relevent right at this moment, may be useful sometime in the future. It is true it gives you a greater understanding of exactly what is going on if an error should occur. The other thing you might consider is: Do you really want to be a system admin for the rest of your life? An NT one no less?
If you're ever interested in progressing your career further you might consider picking up a programming language or three, asm might be a fun choice.
An admin friend of mine once said something to me that changed my mind about being interested in the admin field:
"Just wait until they figure out, we're just janitors for thier computers"
No, technology jobs at technology corps are not secure. Technology jobs at companies who's business is not technology are extremely secure. I work for a major US and international bank and I'm pretty bloody sure I'm not going anywhere.
At first I though thats what this story was refering to
1. Hire a neighbor kid to sit at your computer while you're at work and do this, tell him you'll give him $40 and buy him a pizza if he'll change tapes and watch TV all day.
2. Use Musicmatch JukeBox.
There simplying isn't a good wat todo this without losing a lot of quality. Sorry =( but hey if you do come up with a way todo it, let us know!
That should be and not anD, i'm sure there's other mistakes too
Oh yeah, I'm sure you'll be able to get stuff real cheap now that this has made it to slashdot. Should have kept it to yourself. On a side note, if you want real cheap hardware checkout your local university surplus store, they usually have some real nifty things at reasonable prices.
To the person who said all they learned was how to cover thier tracks. Well you were just a bad kid, you might have had bad parents, but, i doubt if your mommy had sat on her knee and said "Don't tease Susie she get sad" it would have helped. You would have said
"Yeah i know, its funny"
"But Jimmy Susie is crying, she doesn't like it when you call her a whore"
"Yeah i know, but she is, and its funny when she cries"
Wu dang, i wish i got a haul like that
I got a pepper grinder, a bottle of pepper corns, a sweater from Target, a $8 box of legos, some printer paper and a $10 gas card. You ask me you...you made out damn well.
Now the real treat is all those holiday return policies that stores have. A word to all you Microsoft beta testers. You know that retail boxed copy of Windows XP Pro you got in the mail a couple weeks ago?
It's exactly the same as the ones on the shelf at CompUSA. hint hint.
They know your hostname, so they know your IP, so they know who owns your IP, so they know who to call to get your acct removed.
The nice thing about most file sharing services is that you can't see the IP of users, you have no idea who they are or where they're from. Sure, it's not that hard to find it out, but it's a bigger pain in the ass than nslookup
As much as i want this to work, because I like (but dont use) Ximian and don't want to see another OpenSource company go under. I know it won't. There's no way for them to sell boxed copies without giving it away for free online. What they really should consider is higher priced box copies, in which the price contains costs for boxing and production costs, but also a small amount that helps them make up the cost of bandwidth for the subscription service for say 6 months. Then they could put on the box FREE 6 MONTH SUBSCRIPTION. Or maybe partner up with RedHat to include something similar. As it stands I don't see people wanting to pay $120 a year todo automatic updates of something that is free right now. But, I wish Ximian good luck anD fortune in this and all other business endevors! You guys rock!
On top of that, these kids don't make the kind of money a sysadmin makes, an hour of thier life is actually much less valuble than that of a sysadmin. When someone wastes an hour of your life wouldn't you want to waste an hour of thiers?
And yeah kid do get drunk and hit people with cars, but chances are they didn't WANT to hit you with a car. In this case they WANTED to cause damage, they wanted to take away other people's time, the only intent of this was todo harm. For that there should be a severe punishment.
This isn't a matter of setting an example, its about punishing someone that did wrong
All that and they still can't survive the slashdot effect?
DEFCON he yells with a beer in each pocket and a bottle of coconut rum in hand. Wait were there hackers there? Who knows, but there's strippers and beer and that's all that matter. WE LOVE SHANNON!
yeah, neither do most credit card readers. You can get 802.11b attachment for most new PDAs