Crappy software and Microsoft go hand-in-hand, so it seems only appropriate that they are using CentOS. I've dealt with CentOS - it just feels like a piece of crap configuring it, installing things, dealing with it's super out of date packages, building a few things from source, and then shouting "Screw it!" and installing debian experimental on my server instead...
Otherwise, if it's not a server, I always use Archlinux...
That said, most developers prefer to use a distro that doesn't suck completely, so they use RedHat, Debian, Arch or Mint - Cent is a steaming pile.
24 Hour DHS monitoring drones - not only can they see you and your heat signatures through walls, but they can also intercept your cell phones and wireless networks!
My beloved granddad drank at the peak probably 1-2 carafes of coffee a day single handed. He was a trucker in his younger years and after that built fence for 10 years or so, and he loved his coffee. (In fact, he started me out drinking it at age 7 - great memories). Anyway, I can't be sure what caused his mind to go there 3-4 years before he passed, but it was one of two things - low blood oxygen levels and low bloodflow to the brain because of his past heart issues, or it could've been Alzheimer's.
If this turns out to be true it'd affirm that his heart, not Alzheimer's caused his dementia.
Yes, that's traditional patent trolling, but on the other hand, to take something that your company and the ones before it had freely granted people to use in an effort to shut out and shut down competitors - is that not quite trollish as well?
Remember back in the 90's when Furby first came out, the Federal Government banned Furbies from entering the building to protect state secrets?
Via Wiki: "There was a common misconception that they repeated words that were said around them. This belief most likely stemmed from the fact that it is possible to have the Furby say certain pre-programmed words or phrases more often by petting it whenever it said these words. As a result of this myth, several intelligence agencies banned them from their offices."
GSM + No Contract + Coverage in most Cities...and they seem to cost less too.
The only real issue is that I'd hate to give my my droid2...it's old but with AOKP, it runs like a dream.
...I dare say that the way Debian does it is a de facto standard now, and it actually makes more sense to train users that way
Not really, if it's contrary to how the package developers built it - if the people actually writing the application code design it one way, that's the standard. Anything else is a variation thereof.
Every other non debian and non-redhat based distro. It may put it's config files in the same directories, but take a look at something like php, apache, and arno iptables firewall, where they end up splitting files up and sometimes having includes for debian/ubuntu specific config files.
I'm not saying it's always bad (they do make apache easier to config), but debconf's methods usually end up training users to look in the wrong places for configuration files in the event they change distros.
Problem is, Debian uses extremely nonstandard config file locations and names, and that's where most of the conflicts come. Archlinux is as close to vanilla as you can get without having to build the world yourself.
Well, there can be config file changes between versions, but usually with Arch (which has an LTS kernel available), upgrading is very painless. I'm running a 3.3.6 kernel, the latest Xorg, and the latest...everything else, including Xfce.
Rolling release means that the packages are just upgraded as each of them reaches a new version/stable release by their devs. Further, if a package is missing, you can probably find it in Arch's AUR, which has buildscripts that you can install as simply as installing the "yaourt" tool and doing a "yaourt -S whatever-the-package-name-is" or by downloading the PKGBUILD and doing a makepkg yourself.
Just because Google uses it doesn't mean it's any good. I'm not being a troll here - if you'd try a distro other than Ubuntu, you'd find that Ubuntu isy really, really bad, bloated, and slow. Yes, there are other distros that are equally as bad or worse, but there is an abundance of distros that far exceed what Ubuntu provides.
I'd suggest Archlinux myself, or plain old Debian if you want something that's stable and easy. Arch has rolling updates meaning you don't have milestones - packages just get updated as they get changed by their developers, so no real upgrade hell there. Debian is rock solid (more than Ubuntu), and is great for servers and everything in between - it's the right balance of coddling/ease of use and stability, without the bloat and crap.
The real issue with Ubuntu's serious suckage is that it's been made too corporate, and has been hijacked by a corp. While other distros are funded and run by corps, they tend to keep the spirit of open, nonintrusive, non ad-based OS'es going instead of forcing changes, ads, and other BS (like Unity) on their users without any real notice. They also don't make people so unable to fix their own problems by coddling them with a GUI for everything.
I'm not trolling here, but I'm sick of Ubuntu. I'd only install Ubuntu if I were converting my parents or grandparents to Linux.
Honestly, unless you're a n00b, Ubuntu and it's derivatives just suck by comparison to anything else. Don't comment if you haven't tried other distros.
Ubuntu is the Windows of the Linux world. It's heavyweight, full of useless daemons, and has the most awful window manager ever conceived. At the least, could they install Debian? It has some of the daemons and all, but it's not nearly as convoluted. It's also way more vanilla than Ubuntu...
Archlinux is nice because it's fast and contains only what the user wants. It takes more setup, but runs really fast and smooth...no frills unless you install, build, or add them yourself.
Then, for people who like to build the world, there's Gentoo and Slackware...
Dell could at least give users a choice here.
I chuckle when I imagine Linux fanboys going crazy over impending releases of kernel revisions...updates are nice, but getting sexual pleasure from new hardware and software is a little odd, mac and windows people.
I'm a Linux fan and user, but I mean, seriously? People act like their wife is popping out a baby when a new apple product rolls out.
Will I really pay per minute to charge my laptop, or will I go buy a screwdriver and some $5 alligator clips?
Better yet, will I just get one of those light socket plug adapters? Either way, I'm not paying my hotel for power when I travel. Many already try to wing you for $15 or more just for 24 hours of slow internet access...and don't get me started on the minibars!
Well, I guess this gives an alternative to an alternative for that old pentium 100 I have in the attic...
In all seriousness, I guess this COULD be eventually useful if they manage to get it working with modern DirectX games and such... While I'm a Linux guy, I do enjoy gaming, natively and in WINE. ReactOS as I understand it contributes code to WINE (and vice-versa)...so IMHO it's still a win. Not necessarily epic yet, but it could be. That symbiotic relationship is worth something...I'm just not sure what.
I have had a lot of time to deal with this, as I dropped ubunturd 3-4 years ago, as I found that every dist upgrade horribly broke the system, and that I had to jump through a lot of hoops to get my custom modifications and kernels not to cause dependency hells...
I'm personally very partial to ArchLinux for my daily driver laptop. Admittedly, I'm a bit of a tweaker and ricer on my laptop, but Arch is perfect for that...
You control every aspect, as you set the system up from the ground up, and it's packages are always more up to date than most distros. It's package management is faster by far than apt, and the PKGBUILD building system gives even the most novice compiler of software what they need to package any application not included in the distro, build any of thousands of premade PKGBUILDs in the AUR repository, and rebuild and modify anything that is already packaged by the distro via ABS.
My server, however, runs Debian testing - which is rock solid...if you need something that "just works," Debian is definitely the way to go.
In my mind, these are the only two distros that exist, as I've been unimpressed with any others, unless you count the TAILS livecd when using public computers, for paranoia's sake.
Exactly.
By the way, there is a petition/thing to mail your reps about that...
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/snooping_bill
The guy above me needs modded WAYYY up for mentioning this. Too bad he's not the first comment.
Not really, take a look at the nighties. They just don't officially support it because of the trouble that can happen dealing with browser plugins on windows.
If you're all about eyecandy and prettiness, use KDE4 or Gnome...
If you're about speed and resources, or are a productivity oriented person, or just want to piece it together yourself, use XFCE4...
If you want to have something that's lightweight but complete, use KDE3 Trinity or Gnome 2...
If you're an ultra minimalist or a code junkie that isn't happy with anything else, go with LXDE or a titling WM, or something else that's really simple and basic...
Or...just run several, and use each when appropriate...it's not like we have gigantic amounts of storage in everything these days, or anything.
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Crappy software and Microsoft go hand-in-hand, so it seems only appropriate that they are using CentOS. I've dealt with CentOS - it just feels like a piece of crap configuring it, installing things, dealing with it's super out of date packages, building a few things from source, and then shouting "Screw it!" and installing debian experimental on my server instead...
Otherwise, if it's not a server, I always use Archlinux...
That said, most developers prefer to use a distro that doesn't suck completely, so they use RedHat, Debian, Arch or Mint - Cent is a steaming pile.
24 Hour DHS monitoring drones - not only can they see you and your heat signatures through walls, but they can also intercept your cell phones and wireless networks!
Now I can feel safe!
My beloved granddad drank at the peak probably 1-2 carafes of coffee a day single handed. He was a trucker in his younger years and after that built fence for 10 years or so, and he loved his coffee. (In fact, he started me out drinking it at age 7 - great memories). Anyway, I can't be sure what caused his mind to go there 3-4 years before he passed, but it was one of two things - low blood oxygen levels and low bloodflow to the brain because of his past heart issues, or it could've been Alzheimer's.
If this turns out to be true it'd affirm that his heart, not Alzheimer's caused his dementia.
Yes, that's traditional patent trolling, but on the other hand, to take something that your company and the ones before it had freely granted people to use in an effort to shut out and shut down competitors - is that not quite trollish as well?
I mean, Oracle did just basically lose a huge patent troll case over a freely available API implementation...
Remember back in the 90's when Furby first came out, the Federal Government banned Furbies from entering the building to protect state secrets?
Via Wiki: "There was a common misconception that they repeated words that were said around them. This belief most likely stemmed from the fact that it is possible to have the Furby say certain pre-programmed words or phrases more often by petting it whenever it said these words. As a result of this myth, several intelligence agencies banned them from their offices."
GSM + No Contract + Coverage in most Cities...and they seem to cost less too. The only real issue is that I'd hate to give my my droid2...it's old but with AOKP, it runs like a dream.
...I dare say that the way Debian does it is a de facto standard now, and it actually makes more sense to train users that way
Not really, if it's contrary to how the package developers built it - if the people actually writing the application code design it one way, that's the standard. Anything else is a variation thereof.
Every other non debian and non-redhat based distro. It may put it's config files in the same directories, but take a look at something like php, apache, and arno iptables firewall, where they end up splitting files up and sometimes having includes for debian/ubuntu specific config files.
I'm not saying it's always bad (they do make apache easier to config), but debconf's methods usually end up training users to look in the wrong places for configuration files in the event they change distros.
Problem is, Debian uses extremely nonstandard config file locations and names, and that's where most of the conflicts come. Archlinux is as close to vanilla as you can get without having to build the world yourself.
Well, there can be config file changes between versions, but usually with Arch (which has an LTS kernel available), upgrading is very painless. I'm running a 3.3.6 kernel, the latest Xorg, and the latest...everything else, including Xfce.
Rolling release means that the packages are just upgraded as each of them reaches a new version/stable release by their devs. Further, if a package is missing, you can probably find it in Arch's AUR, which has buildscripts that you can install as simply as installing the "yaourt" tool and doing a "yaourt -S whatever-the-package-name-is" or by downloading the PKGBUILD and doing a makepkg yourself.
Just because Google uses it doesn't mean it's any good. I'm not being a troll here - if you'd try a distro other than Ubuntu, you'd find that Ubuntu isy really, really bad, bloated, and slow. Yes, there are other distros that are equally as bad or worse, but there is an abundance of distros that far exceed what Ubuntu provides.
I'd suggest Archlinux myself, or plain old Debian if you want something that's stable and easy. Arch has rolling updates meaning you don't have milestones - packages just get updated as they get changed by their developers, so no real upgrade hell there. Debian is rock solid (more than Ubuntu), and is great for servers and everything in between - it's the right balance of coddling/ease of use and stability, without the bloat and crap.
The real issue with Ubuntu's serious suckage is that it's been made too corporate, and has been hijacked by a corp. While other distros are funded and run by corps, they tend to keep the spirit of open, nonintrusive, non ad-based OS'es going instead of forcing changes, ads, and other BS (like Unity) on their users without any real notice. They also don't make people so unable to fix their own problems by coddling them with a GUI for everything.
I'm not trolling here, but I'm sick of Ubuntu. I'd only install Ubuntu if I were converting my parents or grandparents to Linux.
Honestly, unless you're a n00b, Ubuntu and it's derivatives just suck by comparison to anything else. Don't comment if you haven't tried other distros.
Ubuntu is the Windows of the Linux world. It's heavyweight, full of useless daemons, and has the most awful window manager ever conceived. At the least, could they install Debian? It has some of the daemons and all, but it's not nearly as convoluted. It's also way more vanilla than Ubuntu...
Archlinux is nice because it's fast and contains only what the user wants. It takes more setup, but runs really fast and smooth...no frills unless you install, build, or add them yourself.
Then, for people who like to build the world, there's Gentoo and Slackware...
Dell could at least give users a choice here.
I chuckle when I imagine Linux fanboys going crazy over impending releases of kernel revisions...updates are nice, but getting sexual pleasure from new hardware and software is a little odd, mac and windows people.
I'm a Linux fan and user, but I mean, seriously? People act like their wife is popping out a baby when a new apple product rolls out.
Coming to a Kindle near you: Captain Kirk and his steamy affair with Oscar the Grouch and Edward Cullen
Will I really pay per minute to charge my laptop, or will I go buy a screwdriver and some $5 alligator clips?
Better yet, will I just get one of those light socket plug adapters? Either way, I'm not paying my hotel for power when I travel. Many already try to wing you for $15 or more just for 24 hours of slow internet access...and don't get me started on the minibars!
Well, I guess this gives an alternative to an alternative for that old pentium 100 I have in the attic...
In all seriousness, I guess this COULD be eventually useful if they manage to get it working with modern DirectX games and such... While I'm a Linux guy, I do enjoy gaming, natively and in WINE. ReactOS as I understand it contributes code to WINE (and vice-versa)...so IMHO it's still a win. Not necessarily epic yet, but it could be. That symbiotic relationship is worth something...I'm just not sure what.
That said, name one KDE distro that actually works?
How about Chakra?
I have had a lot of time to deal with this, as I dropped ubunturd 3-4 years ago, as I found that every dist upgrade horribly broke the system, and that I had to jump through a lot of hoops to get my custom modifications and kernels not to cause dependency hells...
I'm personally very partial to ArchLinux for my daily driver laptop. Admittedly, I'm a bit of a tweaker and ricer on my laptop, but Arch is perfect for that...
You control every aspect, as you set the system up from the ground up, and it's packages are always more up to date than most distros. It's package management is faster by far than apt, and the PKGBUILD building system gives even the most novice compiler of software what they need to package any application not included in the distro, build any of thousands of premade PKGBUILDs in the AUR repository, and rebuild and modify anything that is already packaged by the distro via ABS.
My server, however, runs Debian testing - which is rock solid...if you need something that "just works," Debian is definitely the way to go.
In my mind, these are the only two distros that exist, as I've been unimpressed with any others, unless you count the TAILS livecd when using public computers, for paranoia's sake.
Exactly. By the way, there is a petition/thing to mail your reps about that... http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/snooping_bill The guy above me needs modded WAYYY up for mentioning this. Too bad he's not the first comment.
+1 On the AA fonts thing...any time I setup a new install of Archlinux or Debian I spend 2 hours making the fonts nice and crisp...
Not really, take a look at the nighties. They just don't officially support it because of the trouble that can happen dealing with browser plugins on windows.
KDE and GNOME suck lately if you go by the comments around the interwebs...
Or...just run several, and use each when appropriate...it's not like we have gigantic amounts of storage in everything these days, or anything.
There is a FolderSync addon for Ngale that should handle such devices - Rockbox et al...