onically, I remember my dad laughing at the version of the 1950's shown in Back to the Future (he was particularly amused at Biff's buddy who went around wearing paper 3D glasses for no apparent reason other than "3D movies were big back then, right?"). Now I see the same thing in the way movies portray the 1980's.
They didn't make their movie to show people what the 50s was like, they made their movie to pretend to be in the 50s, hence they had to conform to what the viewers thought the 50s looked like.
Everything is worth what someone will trade for it. Nothing more or less.
Not true; only true among those people who didn't do any studies in economics. Trivial counter-examples: lots of people are tricked into paying thousands of dollars for stuff that is later found to be worthless (fraudulent gems, bridges, etc).
Just because someone scammed someone else out of money for worthless glass does not raise the value of the glass to the level of rubies and emeralds.
I actually don't care even a little bit what happens "over the pond". And calling it a "girls game" as an insult is particularly ridiculous coming from a soccer fan.
What makes you think I'm a soccer fan? I'm no fan of games in general, not just handegg and football. Just because I used to play rugyby doesn't mean I follow it at all.
Here, soccer is a game for 8-year-olds and their moms, until they get old enough to play a real sport.
Get over yourself - they're all just games. Unless by "real sport" you mean "games were we pwotect our widdle pwayers" as opposed to full contact rugby. There's no practical difference between wasting time watching handegg games and wasting time watching starcraft games.
Are you claiming that the contest is only fair if both parties get all the resources they claim they need?
When those parties are machines and on a neutral playing field and they are technical requirements, yes.
Well, that was my point: it wasn't really fair - in the AZ vs SF, SF wasn't given all the resources that SF was claimed to require while AZ was given all the resources it apparently needed.
So, of course, if I'm allowed to determine the parameters under which the contestants will compete, it's possible to always choose the winner in advance simply by tuning the parameters to favour one party over the other while being "fair" because both parties get the same parameters.
No, it's not fair, because a 386 with 4MB is completely incapable of even running the AlphaZero code (or Stockfish code), simply because the program and its data won't even fit.
Are you claiming that the contest is only fair if both parties get all the resources they claim they need?
I'd beat AlphaZero in chess even though I would play under the same parameters (Single core, 386 with 4MB of RAM)
Let me get this clear. You are arguing that your brain is roughly equivalent to a single core 386 ?
No, I'm saying that I'd work under the same parameters. I might not even turn on the 386 handed to me, after all. But I'm still working with the same parameters, which as you pointed out, is totally fair.
Woohoo Google, good job building a computer that can click fast? Should they be congratulated for that?
You think that beating a pro in Starcraft is just a matter of clicking fast ?
When you can issue orders at a sustained rate of 100 orders per second to 100 individual, ungrouped units, you are going to beat the player who is physically constrained to a peak or perhaps 2 orders per second, with a sustained rate of less than 1 per second.
It is easy to win almost any real-time game by simply moving hundreds of times faster than your opponents.
It's hard to be impressed when the strategy used by the winner involved issuing orders at a sustained pace no human can meet, even for a short burst.
bizarre time controls that removed stockfish's edge in time management
AlphaZero got the same time control.
stockfish didn't get its opening books
AlphaZero didn't get an opening book either.
nor did it get endgame tablebases
Neither did AlphaZero.
[snipped]
Sure, the SF setup was not optimal, but it wasn't completely crippled either.
If you let me choose the parameters of the game, I'd beat AlphaZero in chess even though I would play under the same parameters[1]. Its totally fair because I'd be playing with the same restrictions as AlphaZero! That's how you measured fairness, right?
[1] Single core, 386 with 4MB of RAM. Sure, it's not optimal for AZ, but it's not completely crippled either!
Why do you support intervention in foreign countries? How many times in the past 65 years has that actually helped?
Weren't you recently going off on slashdot about how the US has a glorious past punching Nazis in WWII? I'm pretty sure all the Nazis attacked in WWII were on foreign soil.
(Or is this another one of your positions where it's okay, but only if their politics match yours?)
The cognitive dissonance is strong with Apple - it's not a "plus" unless it's on an Apple phone. All other times it's "Who cares if it's on Android phones, no one uses it anyway!!!!"
The fact that your "understanding" simply substitutes a western political trope shows the depth of you "understanding."
You should really look into the Chinese culture of societal unity if you think that is going to be the result. It isn't even on the table.
The number of people in China who have read that book is irrelevant to the goals of the state. Likewise, the "Chinese culture of societal unity" is irrelevant if individuals are persecuted for disagreeing.
Claiming that everyone agrees $FOO is a good idea is stupid when anyone who disagrees is punished. You can't use their lack of objections as evidence of their support when said objections would get them executed.
Also, what's the difference between the chinese "culture of societal unity" (which is based on race) and the white supremicists (which is also based on race)? They both want their society cleansed of outsiders who are not of their race. I don't understand why you would think this is a good thing.
"At some schools, the shortage is creating an undergraduate divide of computing haves and have-nots -- potentially narrowing a path for some minority and female students to an industry that has struggled with diversity."
Given that white males are the only ones who face institutional discrimination on college admission and women and minorities are given explicit advantage and automatically beat out equally qualified white males how is this an issue?
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What's wrong with the butterfly keyboard? As long as you hoover out the breadcrumbs once in a while (or blow them out with compressed air) the thing works fine.
I prefer the keyboards for 1/4 the price that don't need regular work on my part just to continue working.
Some people like having stuff that just works. The others buy Apple...
Isn't that the intention of patents? They grant a limited-time monopoly (in exchange for the design details being made public).
No. Patents give you a limited monopoly. It is not illegal to have a monopoly.
It is illegal to ABUSE a monopoly through market manipulation, exclusive distribution deals, coercive licensing, and predatory pricing.
It's not illegal to do so through a patent, though. The patent owner is under no obligation to be reasonable with their patent. They can outright refuse to license the patent to one company while giving it away for free use to another.
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100% of people die within a few days of drinking water.
Wrong.
100% of deaths are people who drank water in the days before the death.
onically, I remember my dad laughing at the version of the 1950's shown in Back to the Future (he was particularly amused at Biff's buddy who went around wearing paper 3D glasses for no apparent reason other than "3D movies were big back then, right?"). Now I see the same thing in the way movies portray the 1980's.
They didn't make their movie to show people what the 50s was like, they made their movie to pretend to be in the 50s, hence they had to conform to what the viewers thought the 50s looked like.
This was a 90's style page, but not for a professional site, it looks like a armature built geocities page.
Armature is different from amateur.
Everything is worth what someone will trade for it. Nothing more or less.
Not true; only true among those people who didn't do any studies in economics. Trivial counter-examples: lots of people are tricked into paying thousands of dollars for stuff that is later found to be worthless (fraudulent gems, bridges, etc).
Just because someone scammed someone else out of money for worthless glass does not raise the value of the glass to the level of rubies and emeralds.
I actually don't care even a little bit what happens "over the pond". And calling it a "girls game" as an insult is particularly ridiculous coming from a soccer fan.
What makes you think I'm a soccer fan? I'm no fan of games in general, not just handegg and football. Just because I used to play rugyby doesn't mean I follow it at all.
Here, soccer is a game for 8-year-olds and their moms, until they get old enough to play a real sport.
Get over yourself - they're all just games. Unless by "real sport" you mean "games were we pwotect our widdle pwayers" as opposed to full contact rugby. There's no practical difference between wasting time watching handegg games and wasting time watching starcraft games.
Are you claiming that the contest is only fair if both parties get all the resources they claim they need?
When those parties are machines and on a neutral playing field and they are technical requirements, yes.
Well, that was my point: it wasn't really fair - in the AZ vs SF, SF wasn't given all the resources that SF was claimed to require while AZ was given all the resources it apparently needed.
So, of course, if I'm allowed to determine the parameters under which the contestants will compete, it's possible to always choose the winner in advance simply by tuning the parameters to favour one party over the other while being "fair" because both parties get the same parameters.
Of course, they prefer "futbol" AKA "kicking the ball and pretending to be hurt" over real football - despite never having played either.
American football is a girls game. I played Rugby once upon a time. No protective gear, no 20m breaks every 10m of play.
This may come as a shock to you, but over the pond American football and baseball (rounders) are girls games.
which as you pointed out, is totally fair.
No, it's not fair, because a 386 with 4MB is completely incapable of even running the AlphaZero code (or Stockfish code), simply because the program and its data won't even fit.
Are you claiming that the contest is only fair if both parties get all the resources they claim they need?
I'd beat AlphaZero in chess even though I would play under the same parameters (Single core, 386 with 4MB of RAM)
Let me get this clear. You are arguing that your brain is roughly equivalent to a single core 386 ?
No, I'm saying that I'd work under the same parameters. I might not even turn on the 386 handed to me, after all. But I'm still working with the same parameters, which as you pointed out, is totally fair.
Woohoo Google, good job building a computer that can click fast? Should they be congratulated for that?
You think that beating a pro in Starcraft is just a matter of clicking fast ?
When you can issue orders at a sustained rate of 100 orders per second to 100 individual, ungrouped units, you are going to beat the player who is physically constrained to a peak or perhaps 2 orders per second, with a sustained rate of less than 1 per second.
It is easy to win almost any real-time game by simply moving hundreds of times faster than your opponents.
It's hard to be impressed when the strategy used by the winner involved issuing orders at a sustained pace no human can meet, even for a short burst.
bizarre time controls that removed stockfish's edge in time management
AlphaZero got the same time control.
stockfish didn't get its opening books
AlphaZero didn't get an opening book either.
nor did it get endgame tablebases
Neither did AlphaZero.
[snipped]
Sure, the SF setup was not optimal, but it wasn't completely crippled either.
If you let me choose the parameters of the game, I'd beat AlphaZero in chess even though I would play under the same parameters[1]. Its totally fair because I'd be playing with the same restrictions as AlphaZero! That's how you measured fairness, right?
[1] Single core, 386 with 4MB of RAM. Sure, it's not optimal for AZ, but it's not completely crippled either!
Why not just mow the poop into the lawn as fertilizer?
Because poop from carnivores makes terrible fertilizer.
Actual fertilizer is digested grass (comes from herbivores).
Why do you support intervention in foreign countries? How many times in the past 65 years has that actually helped?
Weren't you recently going off on slashdot about how the US has a glorious past punching Nazis in WWII? I'm pretty sure all the Nazis attacked in WWII were on foreign soil.
(Or is this another one of your positions where it's okay, but only if their politics match yours?)
Plus, it's got a headphone jack.
The cognitive dissonance is strong with Apple - it's not a "plus" unless it's on an Apple phone. All other times it's "Who cares if it's on Android phones, no one uses it anyway!!!!"
Aren't many of the celebrity anti-vaxxers from the left and/or secular side of the political spectrum?
Yeah. Anne Coulter, total commie.
"Many" doesn't mean "all", it means "many". In fact, the outbreak right now is in the middle of a majority left population.
And the details of the story examine the problems with governance in the western world;
I see you haven't read the book. It isn't about governance, in much the same way that Romeo and Juliet wasn't about poison.
The book was about showing the end result when citizens self-censor to avoid persecution. In this regard, it is spot on relevant to China today.
Creating educational echo chambers hasn't generally been a good idea - take Upper Padville for an example.
You'll just get the anti-vaxxers going over and shooting all the others for not being prawpur chrurstyurns.
Aren't many of the celebrity anti-vaxxers from the left and/or secular side of the political spectrum?
Like 3 people in China read that book.
The fact that your "understanding" simply substitutes a western political trope shows the depth of you "understanding."
You should really look into the Chinese culture of societal unity if you think that is going to be the result. It isn't even on the table.
The number of people in China who have read that book is irrelevant to the goals of the state. Likewise, the "Chinese culture of societal unity" is irrelevant if individuals are persecuted for disagreeing.
Claiming that everyone agrees $FOO is a good idea is stupid when anyone who disagrees is punished. You can't use their lack of objections as evidence of their support when said objections would get them executed.
Also, what's the difference between the chinese "culture of societal unity" (which is based on race) and the white supremicists (which is also based on race)? They both want their society cleansed of outsiders who are not of their race. I don't understand why you would think this is a good thing.
The goal is to cause people with debt to get in trouble for any conspicuous consumption they engage in.
No it isn't. The goal is to turn the population on each other. Didn't anyone read 1984?
"At some schools, the shortage is creating an undergraduate divide of computing haves and have-nots -- potentially narrowing a path for some minority and female students to an industry that has struggled with diversity."
Given that white males are the only ones who face institutional discrimination on college admission and women and minorities are given explicit advantage and automatically beat out equally qualified white males how is this an issue?
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"Driving (anywhere on the surface of the Earth) cannot be defined with a reasonably finite set of rules, period."
So, why are we giving 16 year olds keys to cars with often only a few hours training?
They drive better than the current crop of AIs.
What's wrong with the butterfly keyboard? As long as you hoover out the breadcrumbs once in a while (or blow them out with compressed air) the thing works fine.
I prefer the keyboards for 1/4 the price that don't need regular work on my part just to continue working.
Some people like having stuff that just works. The others buy Apple ...
ASCII is still king - over 95% of web pages are ASCII.
Wrong. Even back in 2012, 60% of the web crawled by Google was Unicode. That figure would have only gone up since.
https://googleblog.blogspot.co...
Slashdot is in a tiny minority of ASCII-only websites.
You've confused "ascii" with "ansi" and confused "unicode" with "utf8".
That's pretty damn impressive considering you only wrote three sentences.
majority of Americans are on the Democrats' side.
Just like the media claimed in the 2016 election, right?
Isn't that the intention of patents? They grant a limited-time monopoly (in exchange for the design details being made public).
No. Patents give you a limited monopoly. It is not illegal to have a monopoly.
It is illegal to ABUSE a monopoly through market manipulation, exclusive distribution deals, coercive licensing, and predatory pricing.
It's not illegal to do so through a patent, though. The patent owner is under no obligation to be reasonable with their patent. They can outright refuse to license the patent to one company while giving it away for free use to another.