Us geeks just need to bash on that monstrosity they pay us to support every day. We absolutely MUST have our fix of Microsoft bashing. It's something we can't live without, just like coffee.
So shut the hell up and let us rant if we want:)
(Yes, that was tongue in cheek and meant to be funny.)
One thing that is REALLY missing from Windows is a NICE auto-shutdown utility. Sure third party utilities exist to do that, and Windows has the proper APIs to handle all of that, but no truly GOOD free program has come out to accomplish that task yet.
About the MSHTML replacing thing, I believe these guys once did it with their browser. Basically their was a skinnable UI with the MS HTML renderer in it. But they had a "technology preview" version once with which you could switch between the MS renderer and the Gecko renderer. Don't know if those guys still do that, but AFAICR, they gave the source to replace the MSHTML renderer with the Gecko one back to the Mozilla project.
Well, it's all COM and OLE, so one could write an alternative viewer for those files. I heard somewhere that.chm files are basically HTML files. Mozilla's Gecko renderer can be used as a COM object for this as a result. The guys from NeoPlanet did this once IIRC with their browser.
So their argument that MSIE is an essential part of the "operating system" is plain BS.
IE is faster and slicker then any OSS browser for Windows, and the second fastest commercial browser (second to Opera)
How convenient that MS loads internet explorer on startup. Of course it's faster! When you 'explore' your drives, you already have the bulk of MSIE running.
Finally, Apple packages Quicktime, iMovie, iTunes, Appleworks (a full office suite), and more with their OS
Check your facts, they are optional components. Easy to deinstall, or you can opt to NOT install them. Try removing MSIE from your WinXP or Win2k SP2+ system. You'll have a hard time.
I think that it is the OS makers right to include value added software, and the consumer benefits from it. I can go and buy a new iMac, plug it in, and have a full home video editing studio without having to do a thing (all on UNIX neverthless)!
The difference is choice. If you don't want something on your Mac, you just throw it away, and you'll never be bothered by it again. Or, if you like the default software, you can just leave it like it is. The difference is that it isn't forced down your throat.
Now, because MS has a monoploy on the desktop, our solution is to force them to make a less-valued OS with less features and bundled software? How is this better for the consumer.
No, nobody is telling them to oblitterate MSIE, Media Player and all that other crap. They just have to make it optional for the user to install or not. Right now, everyone that uses windows for the first time on a new box get confronted with MSIE. And MSIE is probably the only browser they'll ever know because that's that one that got installed with their new system. Thought experiment: What would have happened if MS bought Netscape and integrated Netscape in the OS? Then Netscape would be the dominant browser now.
The problem that most people have with Microsoft is how they throw their weight around with the Windows OS, pushing competitors out of the nest before they can get the chance to be real competitors. It's practices like these that send us off our collective trolleys. The quality of MSIE is irrelevant
I hate replying to myself, but if you somehow try to compile memtest86 on *BSD, you need this file. It's a patched linkage.h. Edit the head.S file in the source tree to include this file instead of linux/linkage.h .
FYI, No I didn't tweak any UserAgent stuff. It just displays. I even checked with tcpdump, and Konq sends his regular stuff (The normal Konq useragent string)
They're locking you into to one browser, and the wrong on at that.
Well, actually, they try to lock you in 2 browsers, and somehow, Konq on my NetBSD/macppc displays the pages fine. No UserAgent tweaking. Maybe they fixed that 'problem' after seeing that browser-upgrade page being hit hard so much from this place?
Aren't filesystems by itself hierarchical databases? What's all the fuss about?
Re:while we're at it: color in freebsd nethack?
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Urgh.. of course that should be:
TERM=xterm-color && export TERM
for bourne compatible shells... (oh and btw, that 2 minute timeout on/. sucks)
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You xterm-happy kid:) I usually would point you to the documemtation, but since this is somewhat less-obvious, I'll point it out here for you. Stick it in your tool chest, impress your friends, go far away places, meet interesting people, and kill them (to stay a little bit on topic);)
Right, enough silly banter. Pay attention:
Try this: (in bourne shell derivatives)
TERM-xterm-color && export TERM
Or this: (if you use the csh dialect)
setenv TERM xterm-color
As you will notice, more apps will be in color now, like mutt et al... Oh, you can have your colored ls(1) too. Check google on how to set that up.
> This problem is, wireless cards only have a certian range, card "a" might want to send data to card "b", and card "c" might want to send data to card "b", but "a" and "c" can't see each other, so their can be collisions which they will never know about because they can't see the collision.
This is called the "hidden terminal" problem. Google for it if you'd like to know more about it (and how to solve it)
Damn, I can visualise this... You have been working on VC++ on Windows XP, and now you try to compile your project on [insert favourite UNIX type system]. A session would go as follows:
[ user@somehost ] $ make
cc -O2 -Wall -ansi -pedantic -I. -fPIC -shared -c foobar.c
foobar.c:287: in function `frob':
foobar.c:287: `fuck' undeclared (first use in this function)
foobar.c:287: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
foobar.c:287: for each function it appears in.)
foobar.c:287: parse error before `!'
*** Error code 1
Another thing is that cats just looove to sleep on top of CRT's because usually it's nice and warm. Also, they also like hanging their tail in front of your screen. This is their way of getting your attention other than sprawling over your keyboard and taking a nap on it.
A large LCD screen will spoil their fun. My cats would be miffed with me if I took away this source of entertainment from them.
Well, I have to wait around 3+ hours for a kernel compile on my SparcStation 5.
When it's upgrade time, I can start a compile, go to the pub, have a few beers, go back, see that the compile failed (because of , sparc32 and linux 2.4 don't seem to mix very well without some heavy tweaking), fix mistake, start again, and go back to the pub:)
Try here. (and please be gentle to my webserver)
I thought he was talking about ports. Hey, I've had a long day :) I probably need more coffee...
# cd /usr/ports/editors/vim
# make install clean
It then fetches the sources (and dependancies if they aren't met yet) and compiles and installs them automagically.
Oh, you can also make packages this way (with the 'package' makefile target). BSD also has a package system btw, but that's too oftopic :)
Us geeks just need to bash on that monstrosity they pay us to support every day. We absolutely MUST have our fix of Microsoft bashing. It's something we can't live without, just like coffee.
So shut the hell up and let us rant if we want :)
(Yes, that was tongue in cheek and meant to be funny.)
Don't forget IEradicator, available from the same site. Can remove MSIE from Win2k pre-service pack 2 as well.
So why don't you grab a compiler, Learn to code and make one yourself?
Dunno where I got that. I vaguely remember some quote like that in Lloyds Delphi Notes.
About the MSHTML replacing thing, I believe these guys once did it with their browser. Basically their was a skinnable UI with the MS HTML renderer in it. But they had a "technology preview" version once with which you could switch between the MS renderer and the Gecko renderer. Don't know if those guys still do that, but AFAICR, they gave the source to replace the MSHTML renderer with the Gecko one back to the Mozilla project.
So their argument that MSIE is an essential part of the "operating system" is plain BS.
How convenient that MS loads internet explorer on startup. Of course it's faster! When you 'explore' your drives, you already have the bulk of MSIE running.
Finally, Apple packages Quicktime, iMovie, iTunes, Appleworks (a full office suite), and more with their OS
Check your facts, they are optional components. Easy to deinstall, or you can opt to NOT install them. Try removing MSIE from your WinXP or Win2k SP2+ system. You'll have a hard time.
I think that it is the OS makers right to include value added software, and the consumer benefits from it. I can go and buy a new iMac, plug it in, and have a full home video editing studio without having to do a thing (all on UNIX neverthless)!
The difference is choice. If you don't want something on your Mac, you just throw it away, and you'll never be bothered by it again. Or, if you like the default software, you can just leave it like it is. The difference is that it isn't forced down your throat.
Now, because MS has a monoploy on the desktop, our solution is to force them to make a less-valued OS with less features and bundled software? How is this better for the consumer.
No, nobody is telling them to oblitterate MSIE, Media Player and all that other crap. They just have to make it optional for the user to install or not. Right now, everyone that uses windows for the first time on a new box get confronted with MSIE. And MSIE is probably the only browser they'll ever know because that's that one that got installed with their new system. Thought experiment: What would have happened if MS bought Netscape and integrated Netscape in the OS? Then Netscape would be the dominant browser now.
The problem that most people have with Microsoft is how they throw their weight around with the Windows OS, pushing competitors out of the nest before they can get the chance to be real competitors. It's practices like these that send us off our collective trolleys. The quality of MSIE is irrelevant
Right, back to driver coding...
Hope that helped you all out a bit :)
I did it like this:
That thing saved my life countless times when dealing with old servers and spotty RAM.
FYI, No I didn't tweak any UserAgent stuff. It just displays. I even checked with tcpdump, and Konq sends his regular stuff (The normal Konq useragent string)
Well, actually, they try to lock you in 2 browsers, and somehow, Konq on my NetBSD/macppc displays the pages fine. No UserAgent tweaking. Maybe they fixed that 'problem' after seeing that browser-upgrade page being hit hard so much from this place?
Nuff said.. Maybe they fixed it?
Aren't filesystems by itself hierarchical databases? What's all the fuss about?
TERM=xterm-color && export TERM
for bourne compatible shells... (oh and btw, that 2 minute timeout on /. sucks)
Right, enough silly banter. Pay attention:
Try this: (in bourne shell derivatives)
TERM-xterm-color && export TERM
Or this: (if you use the csh dialect)
setenv TERM xterm-color
As you will notice, more apps will be in color now, like mutt et al... Oh, you can have your colored ls(1) too. Check google on how to set that up.
You can btw always convert PDF to HTML at adobe's website for free. (sorry, too lazy to provide a link)
Just kidding... Congrats Bart!
This is called the "hidden terminal" problem. Google for it if you'd like to know more about it (and how to solve it)
No, don't run 'im through sed. RMS is great like that as he is ;-) (yes, that's sarcasm)
[ user@somehost ] $ make
cc -O2 -Wall -ansi -pedantic -I. -fPIC -shared -c foobar.c
foobar.c:287: in function `frob':
foobar.c:287: `fuck' undeclared (first use in this function)
foobar.c:287: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
foobar.c:287: for each function it appears in.)
foobar.c:287: parse error before `!'
*** Error code 1
Stop
[ user@somehost ] $ _
I can sympathise completely :)
A large LCD screen will spoil their fun. My cats would be miffed with me if I took away this source of entertainment from them.
Oh, I am digressing... Better post without +1 :)
When it's upgrade time, I can start a compile, go to the pub, have a few beers, go back, see that the compile failed (because of , sparc32 and linux 2.4 don't seem to mix very well without some heavy tweaking), fix mistake, start again, and go back to the pub :)
Thanks to my slow sparcstations, I have a life! :)