Yep, and it also uses the Netinfo domains for the settings, which reflect back in ~/Library/Preferences/*.plist which are all XML files. This just breathes coolness:)
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That does not take away the fact that Carbon apps
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Yes, I noticed that too:) Lots of stuff you see on the page are *not* implemented in the Public Beta. I wonder if they have taken all the debug code out. If they shipped the PB un-optimized, I will be very curious what the speed increase will be.
Back on topic: There's also lots of stuff hidden in the PB that hints about inclusion in the final release. For example, Terminal.app with transparancy can be turned on with:
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You don't want to use UFS yet. If you did, it will cause you lots of problems with carbon apps (like stuffit expander). Actually, HFS+ is faster, because it has less features and is simpler. Also, Classic doesn't like UFS either.
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Having access to a command line *is* remote administration. Netinfo can also be administered through command line tools (try man netinfo on a mac os x box sometime). Heck, you can even write your own netinfo aware tools, the headerfiles and calls to use are on the same manpage:)
I am still waiting for the VNC server to be ported to it. I *do* have VNC clients for MacOSX though --
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When Quartz and/or Aqua crashes (*if* they crash, it only happened once to me), you end up in the console. When the kernel panics (only happened once with me), you end up in the kernel debugger. I don't know if that will change in the final version though. --
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That's probably not going to happen unless someone decides to reverse engineers and implement Carbon, Cocoa en Aqua to other unices *and* implements an ABI for Mach-O binaries (which is the executable format for MOSX).
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How do you know? I hope they synced up with the current 4.x FreeBSD instead of the version Mach-FreeBSD 3.3 the PB uses. That would constitute quite an update, imho. --
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It might just be that IE on OSX is kinda beta-ish, but it's slow, and has lots of bugs. It *is* workable however, only don't load java applets and don't be too enthousiastic minimizing and restoring it (and saying: "wow, that genie-effect is really cool") while it loads a page, or you will end up having to kill it through Option-Apple-Esc.
Not that OmniWeb (the other browser for MacOSX) is bulletproof, but it's more stable.
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SSH has always been there (using it a lot in the public beta too). You just needed to edit a file in/etc (/etc/hostconfig I believe) to enable it (on startup even). It's good to see that they put it in the system configuration, and instead of telnet too.
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Right, I am a FreeBSD and Mac OS X user (and sometimes Linux too).
Have you *used* OSX, even the preview release? It's miles ahead of the free OSes in ease of use, and not far behind in power and flexibility. Granted, a sophisticated
Linux/*BSD user could config up a really slick system, but OSx gives that to ANYONE... including the ability to run free Mac OS apps. And all the free stuff too.
Erhm, you are forgetting that Mac OS X PB is time limited (rumoured to stop working May 15, 2001). Oh, and to run older MacOS apps you need MacOS 9 too. Sure, OSX will run fine on it's own, but there are not may apps out there, and porting is a little finnicky still. Mac OS X is taking a *lot* from older operating systems. After installing the developer tools it struck me that it's a *LOT* like NeXTSTEP/Rhapsody, even the ProjectBuilder.app, the UI designer, Core Foundation libraries and the FreeBSD kernel.
For a pure server, OSX is overkill, with that GUI and everything. I bet it sucks speed away from any internet services the box may be running, and I would advise a straight
BSD install for users needing hardcore Apache/PHP/etc. But for the desktop, I think it smokes any "freenix" distro you can name. And that's just the beta version.
That's a piece of crock, because you can switch that off. You just have to hack a little, but us FreeBSD/Linux admins are used to hacking startup scripts and the like.
OSX's significant weaknesses, the things that will keep it from edging into BSD's/Linux's market share, are these:
- It only runs on Mac hardware.
Arguably, Darwin runs on Intel. Apple is still unsure about this one. If Darwin runs on intel, Aqua will too (with minimal porting). They just need to port it:)
- It isn't free. As in beer, speech, porn, rifles, or whatever.
Apple has come a long way, they contributed to FreeBSD (one apple developer has a FreeBSD cvs commit account even), and Darwin has an acceptable license now. So yeah, it's free. Aqua however is *not* free. Darwin != Aqua, but MacOS X == Darwin + Aqua + probably some more stuff.
- It's mainstream, and image-conscious Linux/BSD advocates won't like that. Easy to use? That's for chumps!
Okay, name 10 people in your direct vicinity that *use* Mac OS X PB _right_ _now_. You can't huh? Well, *that*'s how mainstream it is...
That said, MacOS X, Linux and the BSDs all have their place. Can't we stop fighting, and all get along? Side rant: Why are these things always couched in terms of the "threat to Linux?" There are other free Unix-like OSes out there, you know.
Everybody in the *nix world *does* get along. We just like to tease each other a little. About the 'threat for linux' part, who cares? Linus always hoped that something new would come along that would better than linux. But we owe a lot to linux, and we are gratefull for it. Heck, linux got me started (5 years ago)! Linux introduced me to *BSD, if you start nitpicking:)
imho, you should check your facts better before you start spouting. I hope you don't mind my little interjections:)
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What about all that Chief Officer bullshit most other companies have then? Now *that* is really sad...
I'd rather be called a 'Rocket Scientist' instead of a 'Chief Systems Officer' any day...
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Yep, and it also uses the Netinfo domains for the settings, which reflect back in ~/Library/Preferences/*.plist which are all XML files. This just breathes coolness :)
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That does not take away the fact that Carbon apps can still moan and flake if they were programmed for Mac OS 9. This is actually the main reason not to use UFS yet.
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There goes my karma :)
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I know about fizzila. It's not ready. I will rejoice when they do.
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Back on topic: There's also lots of stuff hidden in the PB that hints about inclusion in the final release. For example, Terminal.app with transparancy can be turned on with:
$ defaults write com.apple.Terminal TerminalOpaqueness 0.8
And that's an *undocumented* feature. There's more stuff like that, just scour the web for Mac OS X tips and tricks
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It's better to hold off using UFS for now. Just wait until support is better. For now stick with HFS+.
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Trust me, you don't want to use the HP-UX and Slowaris versions...
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I am still waiting for the VNC server to be ported to it. I *do* have VNC clients for MacOSX though
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*of course* I mean on top of the mach layer... Consider it a typo or a brainfart.
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When Quartz and/or Aqua crashes (*if* they crash, it only happened once to me), you end up in the console. When the kernel panics (only happened once with me), you end up in the kernel debugger. I don't know if that will change in the final version though.
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No, because Mach takes care of that...
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It's documented on the apple website somewhere.
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Trust me, it's not the same... Well, in the PB it isn't at least :-P
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How do you know? I hope they synced up with the current 4.x FreeBSD instead of the version Mach-FreeBSD 3.3 the PB uses. That would constitute quite an update, imho.
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Not that OmniWeb (the other browser for MacOSX) is bulletproof, but it's more stable.
I can't wait until the mozilla porting effort to macosx is getting some results.
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My guess is that you are an idiot, and I'll leave it at that.
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SSH has always been there (using it a lot in the public beta too). You just needed to edit a file in /etc (/etc/hostconfig I believe) to enable it (on startup even). It's good to see that they put it in the system configuration, and instead of telnet too.
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Uninstalling IE just became easier :)
(Yes, I use OmniWeb on MacOSX PB for my Webbrowsing)
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imho, you should check your facts better before you start spouting. I hope you don't mind my little interjections :)
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It accepts omniweb, because omniweb masquerades as an MSIE browser. Just check your setting in Omniweb (be sure to pick the advanced settings).
I believe the tab is called 'emulation'.
Oh, you can also use JunkBuster to modify your user-agent info. Piece of cake.
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I'd rather be called a 'Rocket Scientist' instead of a 'Chief Systems Officer' any day...
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Hah, just wait until he patents one-click acceleration, or something else braindamaged.
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So, you say IT stands for Individual Terrorism? Hmm, I didn't know Jobs and Bezos were masochistic...
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You can move your mouse over it, and read your status line. Then you will see why...
But if you want to get rid of your appetite for lunch/evening dinner, or perhaps even lose your lunch, by all means, go ahead...
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