The rootkit was put on those CDs by Sony/BMG, which is a separate entity that is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann (BMG stands for Bertelsmann Music Group). Furthermore, the people at the top, who make all of the important decisions are all from the BMG side. So, if either company is more to blame, it is Bertelsmann. Does this mean you should boycott Bertelsmann?
HD DVD for PC is dead, mainly because the burners never materialized. There are still no HD DVD burners over 1 year after Toshiba announced they were making one. I have a suspicion that there are major technical barriers to making burners for HD DVD. Maybe this is the reason Pioneer and Sony decided to create Blu-Ray. If it isn't burnable and looks to be dead, anyone with half a brain will pick the competing technology. Also, I have not yet seen a Blu-ray drive that cannot read DVD's and CD's.
You seem to be confusing Sony/BMG and Sony Corporation. It wasn't Sony that installed the rootkit on CDs it was Sony/BMG. Sony/BMG is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann with most of the decision makers (at the time) being from the BMG side. It isn't too much of a surprise really, given than BMG had a very crappy reputation previous to the merger, even for a record company. Sony does hold some blame being a major shareholder, but the ultimate decision was not theirs. If you insist on boycotting Sony, you should at least be consistent and also boycott anything from Bertelsmann as well.
You seem to be confusing Sony/BMG and Sony Corporation. It wasn't Sony that installed the rootkit on CDs it was Sony/BMG. Sony/BMG is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann with most of the decision makers (at the time) being from the BMG side. It isn't too much of a surprise really, given than BMG had a very crappy reputation previous to the merger, even for a record company. Sony does hold some blame being a major shareholder, but the ultimate decision was not theirs. If you insist on boycotting Sony, you should at least be consistent and also boycott anything from Bertelsmann as well.
That isn't exactly accurate. Neither Sony nor Bertelsmann have a controlling stake in the company, since in order to have control you need greater than 50% ownership. They share ownership, and I believe that some former BMG executives (now Sony/BMG executives) hold a majority of the blame.
While you are correct to blame Sony/BMG. You make the very common mistake of lumping it in with Sony Corporation. Sony/BMG is a separate company that is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann (hence the (B)ertelsmann (M)usic (G)roup). Furthermore, the BMG side of the merger held (at the time) most of the top executive positions in the company, like Thomas Hesse who made the public comment about rootkits. The position of Sony/BMG is similar to Sony/Ericsson - separate companies formed from divisions of two individual corporations. This is unlike Sony Computer, Sony DADC, Sony Electronics, etc. which are part of "Sony". BMG was quite the evil record company before the spinoff/merger, so I was not surprised that they did something like the rootkit. I am a little disappointed that more people are not directing their anger at BMG, though.
You are confusing Sony and Sony/BMG. One only sells music, the other one sells electronics, makes movies, and presses CDs/DVDs/Blurays. Sony/BMG is owned by Bertelsmann (hence Bertelsmann Music Group) and Sony. BMG was quite the evil record company before the spinoff/merger, so I was not surprised that they did something like the rootkit. I am a little disappointed that more people are not directing their anger at BMG and other Bertelsmann companies.
I have to correct you on some things, since burning media is an interest of mine. You can burn hi-def video to DVD+-R/RW that will play in Blu-ray players. There is a thread over at avsforum. I recommend you skip to around page 30-35 to get instructions on how to do it. Also, the Panasonic DMP-BD10A is a Blu-ray that can play DVD audio.
Have you actually tried to buy these burners? They still aren't available anywhere. Try going to any website that sells computer stuff and see if you can buy an HD DVD burner. One of those Toshibas was announced a year ago and still nothing. I'm beginning to think they will never come out, which is odd since HD DVD-R was available for sale since the beginning of 2007.
You're referring to burned CDs and DVDs which use some sort of photosensitive dye for creating bits. Pressed media, like the CDs and DVDs you buy in stores will not degrade like that. However the reflective layer of CDs that sits on the top of the disc is stuck on by some adhesive that may eventually degrade. That process could take decades or even centuries.
Why do so many people forget about BMG? You seem to be confusing Sony/BMG and Sony Corporation. It wasn't Sony that installed the rootkit on CDs it was Sony/BMG. Sony/BMG is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann with most of the decision makers (at the time) being from the BMG side. It isn't too much of a surprise really, given than BMG had a very crappy reputation previous to the merger, even for a record company. Sony does hold some blame being a major shareholder, but the ultimate decision was not theirs. If anything Bertelsmann holds slightly more blame than Sony, but no one is suggesting a boycott of Random House, for example.
You seem to be confusing Sony/BMG and Sony Corporation. It wasn't Sony that installed the rootkit on CDs it was Sony/BMG. Sony/BMG is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann with most of the decision makers (at the time) being from the BMG side. It isn't too much of a surprise really, given than BMG had such a crappy reputation previous to the merger. Sony does hold some blame being a major shareholder, but the ultimate decision was not theirs. If anything Bertelsmann holds more blame than Sony, but no one is suggesting a boycott of Random House, for example.
You are confusing Sony and Sony/BMG. One only sells music, the other one sells electronics, makes movies, and presses CDs/DVDs/Blurays. Sony/BMG is owned by Bertelsmann (hence Bertelsmann Music Group) and Sony. BMG was quite the evil record company before the spinoff/merger, so I was not surprised that they did something like the rootkit. I am a little disappointed that more people are not directing their anger at BMG and other Bertelsmann companies.
I agree with some of the other stuff you said, Lik-Sang, DVD problems, etc., except for Blu-Ray. I think Panasonic controls that format more than Sony.
You are confusing Sony with Sony/BMG. Sony/BMG is a spinoff of Sony and Bertelsmann, hence (B)ertelsmann (M)usic (G)roup. Sony/BMG is a separate company partly owned by Sony, just like Sony-Ericsson is a separate company owned by Sony and Ericsson. In addition, the executives who made the decisions, and who are responsible for the rootkit, mostly came from the BMG side.
You are confusing Sony with Sony/BMG. I know, they both have Sony in their name. But one is a spinoff of the other one. Sony/BMG is a spinoff of Sony and Bertelsmann, hence (B)ertelsmann (M)usic (G)roup. Sony/BMG is a separate company partly owned by Sony, just like Sony-Ericsson is a separate company owned by Sony and Ericsson. In addition, the executives who made the decisions, and who are responsible for the rootkit, mostly came from the BMG side.
Unfortunately, you are confusing Sony with Sony/BMG. I know they both have Sony in their name, but one is partly owned by Sony Corp. and one actually is Sony. Sony Corp makes those video mp3 players, and PS3, and memory sticks, and Columbia Pictures movies. Sony/BMG is owned by Sony Corp and Bertelsmann, and sells music. Sony/BMG is like Sony-Ericsson, a "child" company that is not controlled by their parents except for the purse-strings.
Sony/BMG and Sony are not the same. Sony/BMG is a separate entity that is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann, with former Bertelsmann executives in control of the top positions in the company. It's not schizophrenia (BTW I think you mean multiple personality). Each company has different people at the top.
The people responsible for this are from the BMG side, because although Sony/BMG have joint ownership, the top executives are from BMG. For instance the CEO Rolf Schmidt-Holtz is from the BMG side. Also Thomas Hesse who made those comments that "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?" is also from BMG. BMG has always had a crappy reputation and their responsibility should not be minimized.
You are confusing Sony with Sony/BMG. I know, they both have Sony in their name. But one is a spinoff of the other one. Sony/BMG is a spinoff of Sony and Bertelsmann, hence (B)ertelsmann (M)usic (G)roup. Sony/BMG is a separate company partly owned by Sony, just like Sony-Ericsson is a separate company owned by Sony and Ericsson. In addition, the executives who made the decisions, and who are responsible for the rootkit, mostly came from the BMG side.
You seem to be confusing Sony/BMG and Sony Corporation. It wasn't Sony that installed the rootkit on CDs it was Sony/BMG. Sony/BMG is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann with most of the decision makers (at the time) being from the BMG side. It isn't too much of a surprise really, given than BMG had such a crappy reputation previous to the merger. Sony does hold some blame being a major shareholder, but the ultimate decision was not theirs. If anything Bertelsmann holds more blame than Sony, but no one is suggesting a boycott of Random House, for example.
Sony/BMG and Sony are not the same. Sony/BMG is a separate entity that is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann, with former Bertelsmann executives (at the time) in control of the top positions in the company. Unfortunately, Sony (proper) let them use the Sony name, probably for branding reasons. So all of the silly moves by Sony/BMG like the rootkit, are the responsibility of former BMG execs.
The rootkit was put on those CDs by Sony/BMG, which is a separate entity that is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann (BMG stands for Bertelsmann Music Group). Furthermore, the people at the top, who make all of the important decisions are all from the BMG side. So, if either company is more to blame, it is Bertelsmann. Does this mean you should boycott Bertelsmann? It does seem a bit silly to boycott Random House (major book publisher and Bertelsmann subsidiary) over what happened to some music CDs, and yet that is what some are doing w.r.t. Sony Vaio, Sony cameras, etc. My suggestion would be to boycott the product that Sony/BMG puts out-their music CDs.
In fact Sony/BMG gets no money from electronics because they don't make electronics. Sony Corporation makes electronics. Sony/BMG is not Sony, that's why they have the "BMG" in their name. In case you were interested Sony/BMG was formed by the combination of spinoffs Sony Music and 'B'ertelsmann 'M'usic 'G'roup, with all of the higher ups from the Bertelsmann side. It is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann.
Yeah I did. I realized that all of this negative opinion was being directed at the wrong company, so I decided to try and correct people's opinions. Dunno if I'm having any effect or not.
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The rootkit was put on those CDs by Sony/BMG, which is a separate entity that is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann (BMG stands for Bertelsmann Music Group). Furthermore, the people at the top, who make all of the important decisions are all from the BMG side. So, if either company is more to blame, it is Bertelsmann. Does this mean you should boycott Bertelsmann?
HD DVD for PC is dead, mainly because the burners never materialized. There are still no HD DVD burners over 1 year after Toshiba announced they were making one. I have a suspicion that there are major technical barriers to making burners for HD DVD. Maybe this is the reason Pioneer and Sony decided to create Blu-Ray. If it isn't burnable and looks to be dead, anyone with half a brain will pick the competing technology. Also, I have not yet seen a Blu-ray drive that cannot read DVD's and CD's.
You seem to be confusing Sony/BMG and Sony Corporation. It wasn't Sony that installed the rootkit on CDs it was Sony/BMG. Sony/BMG is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann with most of the decision makers (at the time) being from the BMG side. It isn't too much of a surprise really, given than BMG had a very crappy reputation previous to the merger, even for a record company. Sony does hold some blame being a major shareholder, but the ultimate decision was not theirs. If you insist on boycotting Sony, you should at least be consistent and also boycott anything from Bertelsmann as well.
You seem to be confusing Sony/BMG and Sony Corporation. It wasn't Sony that installed the rootkit on CDs it was Sony/BMG. Sony/BMG is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann with most of the decision makers (at the time) being from the BMG side. It isn't too much of a surprise really, given than BMG had a very crappy reputation previous to the merger, even for a record company. Sony does hold some blame being a major shareholder, but the ultimate decision was not theirs. If you insist on boycotting Sony, you should at least be consistent and also boycott anything from Bertelsmann as well.
That isn't exactly accurate. Neither Sony nor Bertelsmann have a controlling stake in the company, since in order to have control you need greater than 50% ownership. They share ownership, and I believe that some former BMG executives (now Sony/BMG executives) hold a majority of the blame.
While you are correct to blame Sony/BMG. You make the very common mistake of lumping it in with Sony Corporation. Sony/BMG is a separate company that is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann (hence the (B)ertelsmann (M)usic (G)roup). Furthermore, the BMG side of the merger held (at the time) most of the top executive positions in the company, like Thomas Hesse who made the public comment about rootkits. The position of Sony/BMG is similar to Sony/Ericsson - separate companies formed from divisions of two individual corporations. This is unlike Sony Computer, Sony DADC, Sony Electronics, etc. which are part of "Sony". BMG was quite the evil record company before the spinoff/merger, so I was not surprised that they did something like the rootkit. I am a little disappointed that more people are not directing their anger at BMG, though.
You are confusing Sony and Sony/BMG. One only sells music, the other one sells electronics, makes movies, and presses CDs/DVDs/Blurays. Sony/BMG is owned by Bertelsmann (hence Bertelsmann Music Group) and Sony. BMG was quite the evil record company before the spinoff/merger, so I was not surprised that they did something like the rootkit. I am a little disappointed that more people are not directing their anger at BMG and other Bertelsmann companies.
I have to correct you on some things, since burning media is an interest of mine. You can burn hi-def video to DVD+-R/RW that will play in Blu-ray players. There is a thread over at avsforum. I recommend you skip to around page 30-35 to get instructions on how to do it. Also, the Panasonic DMP-BD10A is a Blu-ray that can play DVD audio.
Have you actually tried to buy these burners? They still aren't available anywhere. Try going to any website that sells computer stuff and see if you can buy an HD DVD burner. One of those Toshibas was announced a year ago and still nothing. I'm beginning to think they will never come out, which is odd since HD DVD-R was available for sale since the beginning of 2007.
You're referring to burned CDs and DVDs which use some sort of photosensitive dye for creating bits. Pressed media, like the CDs and DVDs you buy in stores will not degrade like that. However the reflective layer of CDs that sits on the top of the disc is stuck on by some adhesive that may eventually degrade. That process could take decades or even centuries.
Why do so many people forget about BMG? You seem to be confusing Sony/BMG and Sony Corporation. It wasn't Sony that installed the rootkit on CDs it was Sony/BMG. Sony/BMG is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann with most of the decision makers (at the time) being from the BMG side. It isn't too much of a surprise really, given than BMG had a very crappy reputation previous to the merger, even for a record company. Sony does hold some blame being a major shareholder, but the ultimate decision was not theirs. If anything Bertelsmann holds slightly more blame than Sony, but no one is suggesting a boycott of Random House, for example.
You seem to be confusing Sony/BMG and Sony Corporation. It wasn't Sony that installed the rootkit on CDs it was Sony/BMG. Sony/BMG is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann with most of the decision makers (at the time) being from the BMG side. It isn't too much of a surprise really, given than BMG had such a crappy reputation previous to the merger. Sony does hold some blame being a major shareholder, but the ultimate decision was not theirs. If anything Bertelsmann holds more blame than Sony, but no one is suggesting a boycott of Random House, for example.
You are confusing Sony and Sony/BMG. One only sells music, the other one sells electronics, makes movies, and presses CDs/DVDs/Blurays. Sony/BMG is owned by Bertelsmann (hence Bertelsmann Music Group) and Sony. BMG was quite the evil record company before the spinoff/merger, so I was not surprised that they did something like the rootkit. I am a little disappointed that more people are not directing their anger at BMG and other Bertelsmann companies. I agree with some of the other stuff you said, Lik-Sang, DVD problems, etc., except for Blu-Ray. I think Panasonic controls that format more than Sony.
You are confusing Sony with Sony/BMG. Sony/BMG is a spinoff of Sony and Bertelsmann, hence (B)ertelsmann (M)usic (G)roup. Sony/BMG is a separate company partly owned by Sony, just like Sony-Ericsson is a separate company owned by Sony and Ericsson. In addition, the executives who made the decisions, and who are responsible for the rootkit, mostly came from the BMG side.
You are confusing Sony with Sony/BMG. I know, they both have Sony in their name. But one is a spinoff of the other one. Sony/BMG is a spinoff of Sony and Bertelsmann, hence (B)ertelsmann (M)usic (G)roup. Sony/BMG is a separate company partly owned by Sony, just like Sony-Ericsson is a separate company owned by Sony and Ericsson. In addition, the executives who made the decisions, and who are responsible for the rootkit, mostly came from the BMG side.
Unfortunately, you are confusing Sony with Sony/BMG. I know they both have Sony in their name, but one is partly owned by Sony Corp. and one actually is Sony. Sony Corp makes those video mp3 players, and PS3, and memory sticks, and Columbia Pictures movies. Sony/BMG is owned by Sony Corp and Bertelsmann, and sells music. Sony/BMG is like Sony-Ericsson, a "child" company that is not controlled by their parents except for the purse-strings.
Sony/BMG and Sony are not the same. Sony/BMG is a separate entity that is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann, with former Bertelsmann executives in control of the top positions in the company. It's not schizophrenia (BTW I think you mean multiple personality). Each company has different people at the top.
The people responsible for this are from the BMG side, because although Sony/BMG have joint ownership, the top executives are from BMG. For instance the CEO Rolf Schmidt-Holtz is from the BMG side. Also Thomas Hesse who made those comments that "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?" is also from BMG. BMG has always had a crappy reputation and their responsibility should not be minimized.
You are confusing Sony with Sony/BMG. I know, they both have Sony in their name. But one is a spinoff of the other one. Sony/BMG is a spinoff of Sony and Bertelsmann, hence (B)ertelsmann (M)usic (G)roup. Sony/BMG is a separate company partly owned by Sony, just like Sony-Ericsson is a separate company owned by Sony and Ericsson. In addition, the executives who made the decisions, and who are responsible for the rootkit, mostly came from the BMG side.
You seem to be confusing Sony/BMG and Sony Corporation. It wasn't Sony that installed the rootkit on CDs it was Sony/BMG. Sony/BMG is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann with most of the decision makers (at the time) being from the BMG side. It isn't too much of a surprise really, given than BMG had such a crappy reputation previous to the merger. Sony does hold some blame being a major shareholder, but the ultimate decision was not theirs. If anything Bertelsmann holds more blame than Sony, but no one is suggesting a boycott of Random House, for example.
Sony/BMG and Sony are not the same. Sony/BMG is a separate entity that is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann, with former Bertelsmann executives (at the time) in control of the top positions in the company. Unfortunately, Sony (proper) let them use the Sony name, probably for branding reasons. So all of the silly moves by Sony/BMG like the rootkit, are the responsibility of former BMG execs.
The rootkit was put on those CDs by Sony/BMG, which is a separate entity that is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann (BMG stands for Bertelsmann Music Group). Furthermore, the people at the top, who make all of the important decisions are all from the BMG side. So, if either company is more to blame, it is Bertelsmann. Does this mean you should boycott Bertelsmann? It does seem a bit silly to boycott Random House (major book publisher and Bertelsmann subsidiary) over what happened to some music CDs, and yet that is what some are doing w.r.t. Sony Vaio, Sony cameras, etc. My suggestion would be to boycott the product that Sony/BMG puts out-their music CDs.
In fact Sony/BMG gets no money from electronics because they don't make electronics. Sony Corporation makes electronics. Sony/BMG is not Sony, that's why they have the "BMG" in their name. In case you were interested Sony/BMG was formed by the combination of spinoffs Sony Music and 'B'ertelsmann 'M'usic 'G'roup, with all of the higher ups from the Bertelsmann side. It is 50/50 owned by Sony and Bertelsmann.
Yeah I did. I realized that all of this negative opinion was being directed at the wrong company, so I decided to try and correct people's opinions. Dunno if I'm having any effect or not.
ABC already has a show like that. It's called America's Funniest Home Videos.