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"This week's film blogs have been left aghast as Mike Judge's grotesque fictional energy drink Brawndo from the movie Idiocracy became a reality. To recap: Fox wouldn't support a film about Brawndo, the energy drink that destroys plants, debases the human race, and makes those who drink it 'win at yelling' but they are now putting wholehearted support behind the actual drink?" And if you haven't seen Idiocracy, you are missing out. It is the smartest stupid movie I've seen. Whoever did production design on that thing deserves an Oscar.
It must be true, I saw it on the Internets....
Everything I needed to know about life, I learnt from Blake's Seven
But you know it varies from person to person.
Ooo man the floppy drive is broken. No wait. The computer is just upside down.
I had to be dragged kicking and screaming into watching Idiocracy. I thought it would be another bland, generic comedy full of juvenile humor and low jabs at the government.
Now I tell everyone that they must go and see it. Mike Judge is a genius when it comes to social commentary (see also: Beavis and Butthead, Office Space, King of the Hill). He has really corrected (distorted?) my view of our sinking-ship society.
I've read a lot of stupid blogs, but this one is not only stupid, but boring. That will teach me to read TFA.
Soylent Green?
- AZ
That movie was an interesting look on today's society. The evolution of Fuddruckers was hilarious. Mike Judge's future was really thought out, let's hope aliens that happen by at that time just wipe us out and put us out of our misery.
The medical center scene reminds me of a joke...
Q. What's the difference between an oral probe and a rectal probe?
A. The taste.
Should be a much better show than most of what runs on Fox these days..
The intro of the movie can be found here: http://www.glumbert.com/media/idiocracy It'll give you a good sense of the tone and style of humor of the movie.
It really is a must-see.
Or Ad Placement for a Geeky Progressive Demographic?
So to sum it up. Don't click on articles that:
1. Poorly written
2. Commentary instead of the actual story
3. Ads disguised as content.
4. Click to continue x 100
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Everything I needed to know about life, I learnt from Blake's Seven
Now I'm scared.
I mean, talk about missing the point Fox. I mean, seriously, the movie is about rampant commercialism destroying society because people are gradually becoming too stupid to resist more insistent and clever marketing tactics, and now they're rolling out Brawndo?
I mean, WTF, I hope no one that saw Idiocracy goes and buys this, because it's contributing money to the very thing the movie was preaching against. Now we've only got to wait until the U.S. government endures a financial crisis (whoops) and then Fox can attempt to buoy the FCC and FDA and buy them out, and we're looking at the degradation of the world. Of society.
I always wondered if the other countries in the world had devolved as much as America had in the movie, maybe it's time to consider a change of scenery.
I think what happened here is what happens to a lot of cult movies these days. Producers (Fox) expected it to tank, so did not spend money promoting it. Instead of tanking, it garnered a big cult following. Fox now wants to cash in on that big cult profit center by promoting the DVD. Hence, Brawndo as a tie-in to the movie, basically a promotion for the DVD since it's now too late to promote it at the box office. And this exactly is the sort of movie that makes more money on DVD even in the best case scenario.
Still, I can't help thinking that all of the Fox channels and Fox News in particular would be well-served by the world as depicted in Idiocracy, a world which the fictional Brawndo helped build. Maybe they think it'll happen in reality, too.
Coming soon: "Ow! My Balls!" on your local Fox affiliate.
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
They aren't the brightest over at Fox they probably didn't realize it was meant as a joke.
Your shits all fucked up, and you talk like a fag.
well call me beef supreme, boneraid can't be far off!
Ooo man the floppy drive is broken. No wait. The computer is just upside down.
I thought I read the last sentence of the blurb as "Whoever did production design on that thing deserves a car."
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Why not just sterilize all the dumb people?
No one has found a genetic link to intelligence yet, 'Idiocracy' is just a movie.
You can breed for other characteristics though, we all know blond haired blue eyed people are the master race.
like from the toilet
Terrorists can't threaten a country's freedom and democracy. Only lawmakers and voters can do that.
Sounds like Bill O'Reilly and his co-hosts have been drinking too much of this already.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Why not just sterilize all the dumb people?
Yeah, it would be easy... we just need a chemical that causes sterility when ingested.
Mix into the food sold from the concession stands at NASCAR races, and bake it into the communion hosts that go to Evangelical churches, and we're halfway there.
I thought Idoicracy was a great movie, truly inspired.
I must admit, though, that I'd watch "Ow! My Balls".
*hangs head in shame*
Sweet. Now I have something to drink after working up a thirst watching the 'batin' channel.
Firefly.
Difference is, I don't think there's much Fox can do now, other than commission a second season, and they'll never do that, right?
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
I'll do it only if the night deposit box is "ergonomically designed".
What's an umber oppressor? Is that like the brown screen of Ubuntu that tells me I'm bricked when I forgot my password?
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Idiocracy is a terrible movie -- it's like Fox had a grade 8 social studies class try to write social and political satire. The only redeeming quality is the intro; after that the quality drops like a rock.
For future reference, crotch injury and fart jokes are pretty much the antithesis of a 'smart' movie.
Does anybody else out there remember the music video with Rob Malda and 5 or 6 other guys playing guitar accompaniment to something -- I forget what it was...perhaps Richard Stallman's classic tune "Come on people, Share the software"?
Well, that's the first thing that came to my mind in the Rehabilitation Night scenes that showed the Guitar Army.
On a different note, who did the voice of the monster-truck arena announcer? I swear it's the voice of Strongbad, but I can't find any credit.
The "cue the foo posts in 3, 2, 1..." posts will commence with no subsequent foo posts in 3, 2, 1...
I mean, talk about missing the point Fox. I mean, seriously, the movie is about rampant commercialism destroying society because people are gradually becoming too stupid to resist more insistent and clever marketing tactics, and now they're rolling out Brawndo?
What makes you think that they actually missed the point?
This is Fox, we're talking about -- not exactly the banner for corporate America respecting the intelligence of their customers. (e.g. "When Animals Attack," "The O'Reilly Factor," "Who Wants to Marry a Multi-Millionaire?," etc.)
If it's for-profit but free, you're not the customer -- you're the product (e.g., the Slashdot Beta's "audience").
If one may recall they did a similar thig for the simpson's movie with "duff beer" and a few other drinks. The stuff sold out in days. Even after the movie left the theater people were still reselling it at a markup. I don't think brawny will have quite that much success, but I suspect it will still make money, and that is the point after all. Besides, as proved by the fact that you are even reading this, it does work very well as a marketing tool.
lol, I think that the general terms "BIG CORPORATIONS!!!" gets overused, so excuse my attempt to introduce unique terms.
I've seen Idiocracy 2 or 3 times and I think it's okay, but it's not some great social mirror. I have a nagging feeling that Darwinism doesn't want humanity to be intelligent, it just wants us to survive. Also since the movie assumes that we are getting less intelligent, past generations must have been MORE intelligent that what we are today. I don't believe that (though we'll never really know).
Blame the establishment.
Teachers work 12-16 hours a day... yet a "class" day is only 6 hours (after you subtract breaks, locker time, lunch etc..).
Where is that other 6-10 hours going? Consider that...
Frankly I don't think we pay teachers nearly enough. I think it is ridiculous that they guy that "taught" Computer Science will likely make a third of what a computer scientist makes.
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Jesus.
Get over yourself.
If you look carefully, the website has the OCP logo at the bottom left, next to the Fox logo. Something is fishy.
That movie was so horrible I actually felt like I lost some IQ points watching. It was like some extended multi-car pile up on the freeway. You know the kind; cars fused together, limbs lost on the road like a lost puppy, pools of bloods dripping out of car doors, you just have to look at the carnage, but you know a mile down the road just want to pull over onto the side of the road to vomit, because you didn't really like what you saw. It was the same thing with the movie, repetitive diaglogue, go nowhere plots, and actors who didn't really seem to act. I couldn't stop watching it, I just had to see the ending, but I still wanted to puke at the end. Don't get me wrong, I love watching 'King of the Hill' and 'Office Space', but this definitely wasn't Judges' best work.
After the Bush administration, this guy is totally electable.
It could be Fox's idea of cross-marketing for a new, as-yet-unannounced RoboCop movie.
Another thing worth noting, the site mentions a lack of high fructose corn syrup.
And not a computer scientist? Nobody's forcing him to stay in that job. If he was good enough to teach, he could have gone and also done the "computer scientist" job, but he / she didn't. Why not? Its called RISK AVERSION... otherwise known as fear of uncertainty. Having to provide goods rather than just preach a doctrine is different. I got ahead in business and left no dead bodies behind. I even like to believe that some of my former underlings did better for themselves than I and my family did. I'm happy for them, and I begrudge them nothing for being more successful. Why? Because I'm sane. I got my piece of land, and I'll get more some day later, but I got enough for the time being and I'm happy to share it with those I love.
I wasn't risk averse, and it was a hard fought road, but a damn fun one. Teachers are risk averse, their jobs are ALWAYS safe since the state has criminalized not patronizing their services. They don't really teach anything that good (short of shop and driver's ed) even their "sex education" is poorly taught. I learned more from my first girlfriend than I ever did from 4 semesters worth of Health and Sex Ed. There is no substitute for experience and the adventurous spirit, but those lacking it will always demonize those having it, and will seek means of force to prevent and indoctrinate the adventurers. Call it the "tyranny of good intentions."
Frankly I only had 3 or 4 teachers whom I'd consider worth paying for what they taught. And in retrospect, I recall that one of them did it almost pro-bono for a college, she was actually a COMPUTER SCIENTIST, and taught only so she could get credentials to put on her resume. She made her money designing targetting systems for missiles. Interesting? I doubt it. Yet another individual I came to respect because she didn't suck on the government tit. She actually PRODUCED, and I came out of her class with more knowledge than at most of the bigger colleges. Course I took her classes while I was mostly still in high school and out of Advanced Placement (Honors) classes to take, but that's aside from the main point. She was a capitalist, held that OSS is a good idea for those who not only consume it but also contribute to it, but that people should also be able to procure the things they want with the things they know how to do.
" What luck for rulers that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
I got through half of it and turned that crap off. About as smart as your average YouTube comments thread IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbxq0IDqD04
If the drink makes more money than the movie, then we will not have to wait 500 years to say that we live in an idiocracy. Indeed, I believe that all elements of an idiocracy were on display at the recent ``Historic'' CNN/YouTube Republican Debate sponsored by ``Clean'' Coal. My commentary on the historic debate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Osmnp_nbQ
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"Forget the engineers." -Carly Fiorina, briber of MIT Technology Review.
Soylent Green came out in 1973.
The lead character's room mate, "Sol," was played by Edward G. Robinson. The author of the book on which the movie was based, Harry Harrison, was on set during the filming. (Among other things, he suggested that a character visiting a butcher bring her own plastic bag with her.) Robinson, best known for his tough-guy gangster roles, asked Harrison what the hell his character was about. Harrison told him, (paraphrasing) "You're me, as a dying old man. You remember the world before everything went to shit."
One of the things Sol rants about to Charton Heston? The greenhouse effect.
Also, the big ugly secret of the movie -- Soylent Green is People -- is just a sympton. Soylent Green is supposed to be made of krill and plankton. Heston's character finds a secret research study commissioned by the Soylent Corporation revealing that humanity has managed to kill off the ocean ecosystem.
If the Producers continue to drag out the Writer's Guild strike, you might just get your wish. After American Idol finishes its run, of course.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
> But with Idiocracy, Judge -- who wrote and directed -- takes a surgical scalpel to ... and then to celebrate the dumb.
> a far more fundamental aspect of modern American society: our propensity, nay, glad
> willingness to dumb everything way the hell down until there's nothing but dumb
> left
So...kinda like the Gnome desktop environment?
Last August, there was a Slashdot discussion about a study showing that smarter teens have less sex. The study also showed that pattern persisting through adulthood. That was eerily similar to the basic premise of the Idiocracy movie, in which the less intelligent people have more children. In the movie, two subjects of a long-duration suspended animation experiment wake up in the future and are amazed to discover how dumb everyone has become.
In that study, the average teenagers actually lost their virginity sooner than either students with very low IQs or students with high IQs. So perhaps evolution is actually currently favoring averageness over either being too dumb or too intelligent.
The movie also gave an example of a "typical" highly intelligent couple who waited until after they went to college and established their careers and had financial security before they decided that they could afford to have children. Unfortunately by then, she was older and her fertility had declined and they never got to have kids. That actually does happen to many couples. People like them, are the evolutionary losers.
The movie also gave an the example of of a "typical" less intelligent family. That family is having trouble paying it's bills and has junk in the front yard and their loud obnoxious children are running around. The crude loudmouthed couple is shown arguing about the fact that she forgot to take her birth control pill again and is now pregnant again.
Lets also not forget the stereotype of computer geeks and science geeks not being able to get laid. Actually, it is probably just that anyone with a life and a girlfriend, would have better ways to spend their time than on their computer.
Smarter Teens Have Less Sex
I actually think the whole thing is quite awesome. It's a fun way to commemorate a movie I enjoyed quite a bit. This isn't a sign of the imminent fall of civilization, it's a silly movie tie-in drink.
Christ, get some perspective.
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A friend of mine showed me the first 15 minutes or so, and then we got interrupted by somebody else dropping by. It really really didn't work for me. Some parts were funny, but it mainly reminded me of what I *didn't* like about Beavis and Butthead rather than what I did like about them. It did have electrolytes, though...
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Cars could be repaired in much the same way as medical diagnoses were made in the clinic, by "expert systems" which were designed and programmed by previous generations. The film also talked about the stock market being run the same way, completely automated by computers.
Yes, it leaves the question of how the computer systems were maintained, but most films of this nature have some inconsistencies.
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Lamarckian evolution was proved false long ago; just because a group of people isn't educated and therefore doesn't make use of their intelligence does not mean that their children will be stupid.
Individuals differ in intelligence. Intelligence is (partly) heritable. These points follow logically from a basic understanding of Darwinian evolution (not to mention being supported by reams of empirical evidence). Read this, to start (the focus here is on population differences, but heritable individual differences in IQ are even more strongly supported).
As far as the movie goes, I think those who find it downscale have missed the picture, Lamarckian dynamics notwithstanding. As far as Brawndo goes it is effing brilliant as a market wedge in a highly competitive market. Redux has someone completely brill in their top marketing group. The drink itself? Terrific -- tastes all right and actually does boost the energy in a slow, stable, cheery sort of way. Beats Red Bull hollow. Their Bizarro Idiocracy-inspired ad. Their Myspace page. A
They finally realized that Idiocracy is a property worth mining.
I scream. You scream. I assume that means we're both acquainted with the problem. We proceed.
The picture Rita draws in the ending of the movie has a resemblance to George Bush.
Added it to wikipedia some time ago, but now theyve taken out the whole social commentary section of that entry.
So you're saying the people who like his stuff are the ones being made fun of?
The ad is convienently located on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbxq0IDqD04
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Oh stop, that makes it WORSE!
The Scientific American weblog has the best writeup on Brawndo that I was able to find.
The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
Powerthirst!
Electrolytes, turbolights, powerlights, more lights than your body has room for!
Snake eyes!
So all those summer days reading books and programming my C64 weren't improving my intelligence?
Blar.
It looks like an hoax to me.
First, is it too ironic to be moronic
Second, I have already seen spoof ads like that on youtube that seems to be made by the same guy.
Third, the video is hosted on youtube
Fourth, the website works fine on Firefox in Linux. That's not something Fox would actually be able to do.
The Wise adapts himself to the world. The Fool adapts the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the Fool.
Didn't the anti-water thing actually occur at one point in France to increase domestic wine sales? Mind you, this could be an old wives tale...which is why I'm trying to get it confirmed.
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The "commercial" for Brawndo seems to be a big rip-off of the Powerthirst "commericals", except not as well done. Powerthirst: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0geWjLI5dM
Besides, all you talk too faggy. I can't understand ya.
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At least they didn't actually kill the contestants.
wait, kill the contesants would have been a bad thing?
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
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Yeah, Omni Consumer Products is a real company. Their website is linked from the bottom of the webstore.
Why not just sterilize all the dumb people? Why, that's a great idea. I think you should write a book about it. I got the perfect title for it too- "Mein Kampf".
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A smart person would have realized that this does nothing to fix the social and economic factors driving the successful among us to have less kids than the unsuccessful and would realize that said any fertilized eggs would need a place to grow. It's not like the Clevons of the world are recklessly having unprotected visits to the fertility clinic with multiple women.
But hey, thanks for donating your genetic material to the gene pool. I'm sure it will help.
You don't watch TV, eh? NBC's been running commercials on the remake for weeks.
NBC's casting page:
I agree completely with the idea that stupid people are over populating. That is why I have resolved to have as many babies as possible with hot geeky girls to even it out. PM if you're interested in saving the human race.
The promo video on that website is very similar to a spoof video on youtube about a fake energy drink called Power Thirst. At the very least, it was definitely inspired by it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SrPIRYhdnqs. Turbopuns indeed.
You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. - Winston Churchill
... did you really create that account for the sole purpose to encourage people to boycott Sony-BMG, rather than just Sony?
"Idiocracy" is a personality/intelligence test. People have one of these reactions:
1. Think the movie was hilarious. Did not get the message. The first group does not understand the movie is about them, the truly stupid people.
2. Think the movie was hilarious because they got the message. The second group is wannabe evil overlords.
3. Did not understand the movie and found only occasional humor. The third group is normal. They need a higher class of humor but did not understand the message. Please explain the message to these people.
4. Understood the movie. Found some humor, but mostly sad. This group includes all of my friends.
My parents had two children. The welfare family across the street had eight children. Almost no adults I respect have more than two children. Having two children only retains most of your genes for one generation. If you respect yourself and your spouse, you must have at least three children.
I spend my life entertaining my brain.
It is like saying that the fellows who ran the Gulags for Stalin (many of them Jews, surprisingly) were NOT guilty of staying within the system because Stalin told them all what to do. Bullshit, and I call it supreme bullshit.
They can quit and find private sector jobs. I've even met a few who offered home schooling curricula/services. From what I've heard of the ones around here, they're not bad at all, and the kids like it more than they like public school and have a LOT more spare time when the day is done.
Also, parents have a say in how its done. FAR different than public or even private schools. Course its not government sanctioned, but then again, nothing good ever is.
" What luck for rulers that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
--And garbage on purpose may be art, but when it boils right down to the pan bottom, I'm still consuming garbage. --I felt the same way after watching 'Idiocracy' as I did once after being stuck in the Chicago O'Hare terminal for hours on end watching that gawdawful airport CNN 'news' loop. --And I recognize that this was probably deliberate, but it doesn't change the fact that my body and brain were subjected to 90 minutes of soul-draining sugar-sewage.
And worse, the film was littered with broken insights. --Are we saying that genetics is the beginning and end of intellect and personal human integrity? Sorry, but I have a problem with that notion. It may make for an amusing animated tree diagram, but it's also a patently false idea.
But whatever. It was a cute film which was sort of worth watching. Once and never again. Hmm. --I wonder if that, 'Film Enjoyment Is Contagious' thing is in effect here?
-FL
I like "Idiocracy". It's a good and funny movie. But I have some questions about it.
If all the people in the future are such idiots, who builds and maintains their motor vehicles? Who processes and makes the fuel? Who makes their machines? Don't these things require some measure of intelligence?
Why not just curb the overuse, instead? It's very rarely appropriate, it's just the fallback line for lazy thinkers who don't want to deal with the real issues underneath.
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Idiocracy sucked ass. Amazingly so. So much that it caused me to lose faith in Rotten Tomatoes, which scored it at 69%.
It can be shown that native intelligence is heritable to some degree. There's even racial differences in average IQ - with east Asians being the smartest (oh that ought to get me a lot of flack).
But more importantly, is the idea that intelligence is self-selecting. When the stupid choose to have sex with the stupid, they'll also do stupid things during pregnancy (drink Brawndo, for instance), treat their children stupidly (i.e. without enough the proper stimuli) and the combination of genetic inferiority, developmental inferiority, and a society that glamourizes both will create a society that will ruin itself faster than lead pipes ruined Rome.
What I find amazing is that people today choose to be stupid, even as adults who are have a reasonably high IQ. There's huge social pressure to act stupidly.
I could say that humanity is on the cusp of a drastic change, but we've been in a period of drastic change for a while so that sounds a bit stale. But if we can manage to survive the great social upheaval that will accompany a change in energy sources, we will modify the DNA of every living thing. This, coupled with eventual space colonization, is one possible outcome, Idiocracy is another. I don't know which will happen, but things will NOT be as they are now in a century.
A case of Brawndo runs $40 for 24 cans, or about $1.70 per. Isn't that ... pricey?
Looking at the rest of the site, I get the impression that this is part of the DVD marketing campaign (like somebody else posted.)
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A case of Brawndo runs $40 for 24 cans, or about $1.70 per. Isn't that ... pricey?
Not really. Considering a 20oz Coke runs $1.25 around here (or $2 per can for an 8oz Red Bull), and then add in the royalty they're paying to Mike Judge/FOX to use the BRAWNDO name (you did want Mike Judge to get paid, right?), and it makes sense.
The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
.. paranoid crackpot leftover from the days of Amiga.
I showed this to my friends in Beijing (someone did a Chinese fansub of it in like a week.)
They were like "what, you mean the US isn't just like this now?"
I have no doubt that intelligence is heritable. There are variations in intelligence between individuals. However, to claim that entire races are, on average, more or less intelligent than another is just stupid. For that to happen, the races would have had to have 1) drastically different selection pressures and 2) very little gene flow between them. Neither of these things occurred, as far as anyone can tell. Claims of different intelligences across races continue to be racist BS, even if a few of its well-meaning proponents don't realize it.
ok we get it ur gay and fat
Someone should tag this:
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Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
Maybe it could be both, that'd be an awesome pseudo-sequel. Idiocracy... in space!
If you question how a society with such a low IQ can achieve space colonization, or how a space setting would improve the movie, you're too smart. Shove some crayons up your nose until you no longer question the premise.
"When the atomic bomb goes off there's devastation...but when the atomic bong goes off there's celebraaaaation!"
I already resist commercials pretty much naturally, and am very hard to sell ANYTHING to. Who is this Jeff Cooper? I have a feeling this thing he teaches can tell me why I'm so super skeptical and yet also raise up my game.
--- Grow a pair, liberals... stop letting the Republicans bully you!
hehehe every time a movie gets a lot of press on /., the number of seeds/leechers on the torrents for it go WAY up. Piratebay reported only 23 or so, until I actually connected, and it was like 120.
It's supposed to be sarcastic. It's social commentary.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
The "he talks faggy" bit gave me a chuckle. I actually had to learn how to talk to people in my rural home town and not use language that confused them. The scary part is that I used to do it unconsciously. I'd go to college and communicate normally, then come home and "adjust" for the locals. First time I noticed what I was doing it gave me the serious creeps.
And I can still do it if I wish, and I haven't lived there in a dozen years. One minute I can be talking about Heisenberg, the next moment I can sound like I work at a gas station. Clevon would be ok with me. He'd probably give me a Budweiser and invite me to a BBQ.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
I've always secretly hoped that all the high amplitude low frequency bass coming from overpowered car stereos these days matches some critical frequency in the testicles and causes male sterility. It could only help the gene pool.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
I'll admit that an IQ test is not completely deterministic of actual intelligence. But it's the best we've got.
TO address you enumerated points: 1) yes there have been different selection pressures. Exactly how important an individual pressure is in determining overall intelligence is not clear. 2) What do you mean by 'very little gene flow'? Because until recent times there wasn't really much gene flow into certain races (Japanese, Australian aborigine) but a fair amount in others (European, South Asian). You may think that it is racist BS, but the topic is still a hot one with much research going on. I suggest you read the wikipedia article on "Racial Intelligence" for a broad summary of the field.
Personally, I'd like to believe that my race is the most intelligent. But science seems to be showing that it is not. I can deal with those results, because I believe in the value of scientific weighing of the various attributes of different animals, including man.
I'd like to point out that while I scored rather highly on IQ tests as a child, they really don't have much bearing some thirty years later. It's quite difficult to measure intelligence as opposed to learning at the higher end of the scale, in adults.
Already been done: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094012/
Dark Helmet: Careful you idiot! I said across her nose, not up it!
Laser Gunner: Sorry sir! I'm doing my best!
Dark Helmet: Who made that man a gunner?
Major Asshole: I did sir. He's my cousin.
Dark Helmet: Who is he?
Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole sir.
Dark Helmet: I know that! What's his name?
Colonel Sandurz: That is his name sir. Asshole, Major Asshole!
Dark Helmet: And his cousin?
Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole too sir. Gunner's mate First Class Philip Asshole!
Dark Helmet: How many asholes do we have on this ship, anyway?
[Entire bridge crew stands up and raises a hand]
Entire Bridge Crew: Yo!
Dark Helmet: I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes!
[Dark Helmet pulls his face shield down]
Dark Helmet: Keep firing, assholes!
I love his projects--they're not big budget or based on any reality but, rather, they mock reality. Except for Bevis and Butthead--those guys were in my high school home room.
I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
Doesn't exist IRL and won't exist ever.
Smart people always have advantage,and bigger pool of knowledge then average idiots.Education and culture cannot choke off really "smart" people.Smart people are smarter then the system.
I don't know, when playing Halo 3, people talk about how faggy each other is every ten seconds, too. I didn't find the movie hilarious, I found it depressing, because it depicts exactly the society we already live in.
I still think everyone should see it, even if it's not hilarious, but sad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSkCny-HtTw
:)
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Whoever did production design on that thing deserves an Oscar.
Or a wedgie.
Here.
" What luck for rulers that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
(Similar to this, it boggles the mind how many people have NO fire extinguishers in the house, or they let them expire, run low charges, etc.) Too much of society is conditioned to believe that "someone else will handle it"... and in a country like the USA, where individualism and self sufficiency were founding virtues (they really are virtues, ask any Katrina survivor, both those who prepared and those who didn't) it amazes one to see so many people who not only call such virtues "bad traits" but who actively partake of unpreparedness and actively encourage others to be as unprepared as possible. Then, when the trouble starts, they are the first to blame others for not having come to their aid. Institutionalized help rarely works the way it is meant to, but most people still expect their rulers to come to their aid, and consistently, throughout history, the rulers have shown exactly how nature works. Each animal takes care of its own. Rulers are no different, but they are intelligent enough to realize that the majority can be fleeced dry by banking on their desire to have someone else do all their thinking, preparing and living. It is only natural that a higher order parasite would then use this vulnerability as its way in.
" What luck for rulers that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
"Fuck You; I'm Eating!" Ya can't beat that line...
Thanks, that flash ad gave me a chuckle. It has to be by the same guys who did this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs (also awesome)
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From your link: "[Watson] is 'inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa' because 'all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really', and I know that this 'hot potato' is going to be difficult to address."
So basically, it's easy to read that as him saying that "black people are stupid".
"Hot potato" is an understatement. The notion of racial superiority/inferiority has proven disastrous for the human race.
The basic argument is that it's silly to think that separate populations had to evolve the same way mentally and physically. This is true. The issue is 'to what degree?': it needs context. On the time scales of the human race, how much differentiation could have even happened? I've read studies upon studies that cite how you are quite possibly more genetically similar to someone who is black (assuming you are white) than you are to your white neighbor. I.e., skin color is not a good measure of overall genetic differentiation. The migrations of populations is complicated. And when you get down to it, it seems more and more like the very concept of "race" is a myth. A few years ago, either Discover or SciAm even did a whole issue focusing on this topic.
Another major obstacle to consider is whether or not the scientists trying to prove that black people are of lower intelligence have a personal agenda... prejudice... bias. And what they hope to ultimately accomplish with their research? Second class citizenship for 'inferior' races? Or just the ability to discriminate based on race during employment screenings, as someone of an 'inferior' race may clearly be less eligible for the job?
It all stinks. And I wouldn't buy into what this guy says just based on the paranoia that there's some cover-up of the truth because of some desire for political correctness. If there were big differences among races in terms of intelligence, they would be well evident by now. As is, it seems to me the most important factor on intelligence is your environment.
Back on topic to the movie... I think the kids being raised in the idiot families certainly get a dose of that idiot culture from their parents, and that may be a more important factor than genetics. The movie doesn't address this, and it's really just a movie. The topic you touched upon with that link though, is a pretty serious matter.
Sorry about the bust-up, but I agree about teachers' days etc. I have close relations in the field, and I have no idea why they put up with what they do, for so little. And they work in a pretty decent school district (Wake County, NC), not some festering shithole in the middle of nowhere.
It boils down to really, really loving what you do, I suppose. There sure as hell is no other incentive.
Teachers might average standard 8-hour days if you take summer vacation into account for an entire year. (You would too if, for example, you put it 16-hour days for 6 months straight, then left the workforce for the next six months.) It wouldn't surprise me if they averaged more.
--- The American Way of Life is not a birthright. Hell, it's not even sustainable.
Who is this WE... I'm not part of WE. I don't want my kids NEAR a public school. Why should I be part of WE just to pay for YOUR benefit and see no benefit myself.
Your side of the equation wants to strip me of a lot of things... not just cash. Why should I contribute willingly to the robbery and fleecing of me, all the while not really receiving any benefits for said fleecing? YOUR kids have accidents with cars and drugs and alcohol, YOUR kids abuse tobacco, YOUR kids live defenseless and prefer to strip others of their defenses rather than learn to deal with the world, so why should ***I*** be forced to provide for those who care not to provide for themselves? I am not against being good to strangers, I am completely not of the mindset that I should be fleeced by others to do so. That, in any other context is called Robbery... it used to be a felony when "citizens" did it, but now that the government does it for YOUR benefit, its called "social contract" or "the greater good".
Seriously, teaching kids is important, but school isn't the place to learn those important things. Communists did a better job (even of the obedience training) with a LOT LESS MONEY... so it is NOT the money issue. There is something else at hand, and it isn't the "low pay". Teachers in communist countries were low paid. American teachers are swimming in money by comparison... I made less than some of my teachers when I went trucking a few years ago. And I even had enough money to not touch my savings and side investments and AND save up, AND still have time for my hobbies, without ever touching my savings! And to top it off, I made less than a teacher while I worked that job. (Sure I had side investments, but I didn't touch any of them.) How is this possible, I wonder... if teachers get paid so little, that with less, I could still manage to live off one sole source of cash that paid LESS than what a teacher makes in any school system in the USA or Canada? And I can guarantee that trucking is a lot more stressful and a lot less thankful job than teaching. People try to run you off the road, treat you like shit, and then say you're trash, and in the end, they go shopping at the very store you delivered their goods to. They'd die in a week of starvation if you didn't bring them food and goods, but the scum try to run you off the roads, and you aren't even paid by the government, so its not like they paid for you with forced taxes. They willingly patronize that store or any other. Unlike teachers, whom you pay whether you patronize their services or not. And judging by how many kids cannot even do basic math (such as making change in a store, which should be quick and reflexive to anyone with a 1st or 2nd grade education) one has to wonder why we're paying teachers at all.
" What luck for rulers that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
Who is this WE... I'm not part of WE. I don't want my kids NEAR a public school. Why should I be part of WE just to pay for YOUR benefit and see no benefit myself.
You benefit from an educated populace. If you want a piece of that for educating your kid, it's a reasonable thing, though.
Your side of the equation wants to strip me of a lot of things... not just cash. Why should I contribute willingly to the robbery and fleecing of me
It's called taxation.
YOUR kids have accidents with cars and drugs and alcohol, YOUR kids abuse tobacco
And your kids are perfect, right?
Seriously, teaching kids is important, but school isn't the place to learn those important things
It's not like you have a better plan. You're just bitter.
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
You've responded to better than a half dozen of my posts, so I presume you've read quite a few, and you seem to always miss the point. What is it about being one of the masses that automatically makes you miss any proposal but those of further tyranny and serfdom? You've chosen your path, and I've chosen mine. Re-read my posts (again) if you must and try to take note of where I've mentioned alternatives to being a serf in the system. There are ways, and they're not even illegal, though the mass media certainly equates them as such... then again, the mass media equates lots of legal things to being "bad" but since when have reporters been bothered by such a tiny little thing as the truth?
Bingo. Do your research and respond to my replies either with actual solutions or answers, not simply justifying the crap that already is.
Yes, I am partly bitter watching pearls being thrown before swine... or is that people willingly feeding themselves into the meat grinders and wondering why it hurts... seriously, only thing I'm still bitter about is that I have to watch you people drag so many others with you before they have a chance to awaken.
" What luck for rulers that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
You've chosen your path, and I've chosen mine.
This is true, but you can't be an island. We disagree, but enither one of us is going to get everything we want.
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
Again, there is no WE... so I will get what I want, and what I need. You will do whatever you choose to, even if you choose to do what others choose for you. That is your prerogative, as it is for every one out there.
" What luck for rulers that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
You live in a society, whether you like it or not. There is most definitely a we.
"We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala, it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet"
> ok we get it ur gay and fat Thank you for this feedback. I have deleted the video. In retrospect, it was not funny. -joewkelly