"(so basically: if you saved money with the cloud, you were bad at managing your IT)."
Pretty much what's happening in a lot of places. Pretty much why every IT person that visits once a year just hands everyone Windows 10. There is a huge lack of IT personnel at these places to handle most things, so the easiest thing to do is to give it all to the cloud. Because who cares? The client doesn't seem to care as long as they don't have to hire IT people, because they see it as a waste of resources. That is, until they have a data breach, then they blame everyone but themselves.
Most places it's always a one time thing, they have the guy install the system and that's it, gone. Many places are like this. My neighbors place is still all Cisco 100M switches and connections done way back years ago. The firewall is probably just as old.
It's strange to me as a person that buys expensive equipment like this, that none of the manufacturers of this equipment take any precautions against this. They sell DIN rail mounted network switches with firewalls now. Most of them the size of the typical DIN rail mounted network switches. They will not spend the extra $600 to secure their internal stuff, even when the machine costs millions of dollars and they're getting great returns for selling it.
Anyone that knows about PLC controls and these systems, there is no tick box. This was just laziness. These ports were deliberately opened for technical support. This is more common in the industry than anyone thinks. None of these people give a damn about security.
If they can't get the ports opened, download teamviewer on a pc with the required software, there you go.
Many reasons. With the advent of more use with Ethernet/IP and Modbus/TCP, LAN communication is more convenient and much easier to control. Even I use it for my equipment and all the various software I made to communicate with said equipment. Of course I care about security and have this entire network isolated and separated. I don't trust any device manufacturer. Even my ABB speed drives for some reason want to talk an send data to the Internet, wtf ABB? Blocked
Then comes the support. Many manufacturers or builders of these control panels give themselves remote access to these panel. They always request internet access if you want technical support. Of course none of these people give a crap about security on both sides, the person buying the equipment and the manufacturers providing the equipment. And this isn't chump change here, we're talking about equipment ranging from 100K to millions.
You would be surprised how many power stations, manufacturing places, etc I've been at that have full access from the internet (wide open ports) to teamviewer installed on all their HMIs with the key and password fully visible if you walk by the station.
I always get moron naysayers that this is not true when we have a public case of it right here.
The problem is, it won't be. There are so many Enterprise software that uses various versions of Java out there, it's going to be around for a long time.
Flash was phased out thanks to an effort by many of the browser developers to force it out.
Good luck trying that with Java. None of these big developers for this software have any intention of improving the situation either. I still see even NEW ERP software using and requiring 1.7. This sector of the industry doesn't care, nor do they care about security much either, aka stuxnet.
Try running Windows 10 in VMware and scratch your head about why your damn physical size of the VM begins to grow to gigs of crap. It's a good thing VMware has snapshots, because I would get very annoyed moving 40+ gig size vms around.
I'm just glad I'm not in the warehouse business. Amazon is already slamming a lot of people for meager small margins. I know some who have joined the dark side to partner with Amazon.
You have 2 already. Amazon is playing this game because the government keeps them dependent and most likely their workers don't want higher wages or they lose their government benefits (Which can amount to thousands of dollars extra).
Amazon gets to lower their labor costs while the tax payer foots the bill for the rest of the stuff. This doesn't give you the best worker, but for a warehouse job, it works, and the bean counters get excited.
Overall, I don't like it because it encourages people to remain in this status quo and not improve themselves for better prospects. I'd rather have a selection of higher tier workers than 99% crap that this industry encourages. Just finding a good forklift driver that doesn't destroy your truck in the first week is becoming a headache.
You have a careless management you end up with careless workers too, that affects everyone in the industry, not just you.
But they don't use it for free. The tax payer still pays in those countries and the money still goes to the pharma companies whether you as a person pays directly or get subsidized medication.
Maybe, maybe not. Experience allows me to foresee if this is a worthwhile endeavor or not. Most of the people that ask me for this usually have bad credit or no money at all, so chances are slim I'll see any returns. The good companies are always upfront about covering my costs for this without even asking me.
How many users are of this drug? What's the demand for this product? Why aren't there any alternatives or competition? What's the actual costs of production of this drug? Are they really making huge margins or are they recouping costs like huge debt? We don't have any clear answers from this article.
I occasionally get weird clients asking me for some products to make, demand a free sample and get shocked at my pricing, without realizing I have to bare the large cost of retooling just to accommodate them, and a high risk of them saying, "No, I don't like it".
They could just stop making the drug all together then no one gets it.
I wouldn't want to get into any medical industry because it's like a gun pointed at your head with a bunch of people demanding you manufacture for free, work basically for free and give it to them for free.
I really don't know the full story here about why the drug costs so much, but there has to be some reason for it. I like to get away with high margins too, but perhaps they're not getting high margins or they're getting 10000% margins, I don't know.
The sad thing is, I've seen and watch this constantly happen. Meanwhile, legitimate people trying to accomplish good get sued to oblivion because some investor didn't make his ROI, calls them scammers.
I tried to read the article multiple times because I simply couldn't understand what the person is trying to talk about and thought maybe I missed something. No examples of what these people are talking about that makes them "losing touch with reality". All I got is nerds have taken over the world and it's Trumps fault.
I'm not wrong. They may state that in their owners manual to try to avoid liability, but what they have been posting videos of from years past is contrary to that, encouraging people to drive hands free.
The whole excitement about Tesla's vehicles people have over it, is not that it's just an electric car, but people have the impression (Thanks to Tesla's own PR) that it's a fully autonomous electric vehicle. Admit it, you didn't buy a Tesla because it was just an electric sedan.
"Put up or shut up." Ok! https://www.tesla.com/autopilot?redirect=no
"All Tesla vehicles produced in our factory, including Model 3, have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver."
I'm sure that link will be removed soon too, because you can't even get that video from Tesla's own youtube channel anymore, other than reposts. But hey, go ahead and call me a liar! As if none of these videos ever existed.
The problem I see here is that Tesla has been basically advertising a fully automated car to us for years where you can just fall asleep in your car while it's on the move. This advertisement has been going on for years. This was the impression people got from those video demonstrations and this is why a lot of people wanted one. Now they're telling us that we should always keep our hands on the wheel and blame the drivers for accidents for not doing so.
It's not like they haven't posted videos before it on youtube. We have them showing a Tesla dropping off the driver in front of work and finding its own parking spot (Removed from Tesla's own channel), we have videos of them driving the car fully autonomous on wild roads. They've been promising these auto driving features in updates with tons of people waiting anxiously. Now since the criticism and accidents, they've clamped down on it and they've been removing any videos that advertised "Fully autonomous vehicle", but you can still find the reposts of them.
Now the only videos of their vehicle advertisement they have on their channel is just basically showing off a regular sedan basically with road/lane assistance. They took down all their videos of the car driving without a driver.
Because they're more willing to work for nothing. No training and really little experience gained in the environment they're put in. They have no mentors at these companies other than the big boss yelling at them. It's probably why I'm getting more and more supposedly 10 year experienced employees who really don't know anything.
This isn't just computers in general, this is any tech industry right now. You'd be surprised how many complaints I put in with my vendors regarding quality or delays. When I go down there to investigate, I find the operators these companies hire for their equipment do not know what they're doing. Tension controls, measurements, simple engineering concepts, quality control procedures, all beyond their capability. The managers, maintenance, no idea what I'm talking about. All they know is how to crack the whip on these low paid workers and hope a product comes out.
Even when I offer help to improve the situation and not cutting them off, it's still beyond them. They will never hire better qualified people, even when I offer them luxurious contracts. They want the high margins with minimum wage workers. Usually I get an ear full of how full of shit I am about their quality issues.
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"(so basically: if you saved money with the cloud, you were bad at managing your IT)."
Pretty much what's happening in a lot of places. Pretty much why every IT person that visits once a year just hands everyone Windows 10. There is a huge lack of IT personnel at these places to handle most things, so the easiest thing to do is to give it all to the cloud. Because who cares? The client doesn't seem to care as long as they don't have to hire IT people, because they see it as a waste of resources. That is, until they have a data breach, then they blame everyone but themselves.
Most places don't even hire the cheapest IT dude.
They don't even hire IT at all, ever!
Most places it's always a one time thing, they have the guy install the system and that's it, gone. Many places are like this. My neighbors place is still all Cisco 100M switches and connections done way back years ago. The firewall is probably just as old.
It's strange to me as a person that buys expensive equipment like this, that none of the manufacturers of this equipment take any precautions against this. They sell DIN rail mounted network switches with firewalls now. Most of them the size of the typical DIN rail mounted network switches. They will not spend the extra $600 to secure their internal stuff, even when the machine costs millions of dollars and they're getting great returns for selling it.
Anyone that knows about PLC controls and these systems, there is no tick box. This was just laziness. These ports were deliberately opened for technical support. This is more common in the industry than anyone thinks. None of these people give a damn about security.
If they can't get the ports opened, download teamviewer on a pc with the required software, there you go.
Many reasons. With the advent of more use with Ethernet/IP and Modbus/TCP, LAN communication is more convenient and much easier to control. Even I use it for my equipment and all the various software I made to communicate with said equipment. Of course I care about security and have this entire network isolated and separated. I don't trust any device manufacturer. Even my ABB speed drives for some reason want to talk an send data to the Internet, wtf ABB? Blocked
Then comes the support. Many manufacturers or builders of these control panels give themselves remote access to these panel. They always request internet access if you want technical support. Of course none of these people give a crap about security on both sides, the person buying the equipment and the manufacturers providing the equipment. And this isn't chump change here, we're talking about equipment ranging from 100K to millions.
You would be surprised how many power stations, manufacturing places, etc I've been at that have full access from the internet (wide open ports) to teamviewer installed on all their HMIs with the key and password fully visible if you walk by the station.
I always get moron naysayers that this is not true when we have a public case of it right here.
The problem is, it won't be. There are so many Enterprise software that uses various versions of Java out there, it's going to be around for a long time.
Flash was phased out thanks to an effort by many of the browser developers to force it out.
Good luck trying that with Java. None of these big developers for this software have any intention of improving the situation either. I still see even NEW ERP software using and requiring 1.7. This sector of the industry doesn't care, nor do they care about security much either, aka stuxnet.
Unfortunately their Windows 10 move and transition was pretty succesful.
Try running Windows 10 in VMware and scratch your head about why your damn physical size of the VM begins to grow to gigs of crap. It's a good thing VMware has snapshots, because I would get very annoyed moving 40+ gig size vms around.
So much for that reset button when phones are sporting high ram because of Android and its applications.
I'm just glad I'm not in the warehouse business. Amazon is already slamming a lot of people for meager small margins. I know some who have joined the dark side to partner with Amazon.
You have 2 already. Amazon is playing this game because the government keeps them dependent and most likely their workers don't want higher wages or they lose their government benefits (Which can amount to thousands of dollars extra).
Amazon gets to lower their labor costs while the tax payer foots the bill for the rest of the stuff. This doesn't give you the best worker, but for a warehouse job, it works, and the bean counters get excited.
Overall, I don't like it because it encourages people to remain in this status quo and not improve themselves for better prospects. I'd rather have a selection of higher tier workers than 99% crap that this industry encourages. Just finding a good forklift driver that doesn't destroy your truck in the first week is becoming a headache.
You have a careless management you end up with careless workers too, that affects everyone in the industry, not just you.
But they don't use it for free. The tax payer still pays in those countries and the money still goes to the pharma companies whether you as a person pays directly or get subsidized medication.
Maybe, maybe not. Experience allows me to foresee if this is a worthwhile endeavor or not. Most of the people that ask me for this usually have bad credit or no money at all, so chances are slim I'll see any returns. The good companies are always upfront about covering my costs for this without even asking me.
How many users are of this drug? What's the demand for this product? Why aren't there any alternatives or competition? What's the actual costs of production of this drug? Are they really making huge margins or are they recouping costs like huge debt? We don't have any clear answers from this article.
I occasionally get weird clients asking me for some products to make, demand a free sample and get shocked at my pricing, without realizing I have to bare the large cost of retooling just to accommodate them, and a high risk of them saying, "No, I don't like it".
They could just stop making the drug all together then no one gets it.
I wouldn't want to get into any medical industry because it's like a gun pointed at your head with a bunch of people demanding you manufacture for free, work basically for free and give it to them for free.
I really don't know the full story here about why the drug costs so much, but there has to be some reason for it. I like to get away with high margins too, but perhaps they're not getting high margins or they're getting 10000% margins, I don't know.
The sad thing is, I've seen and watch this constantly happen. Meanwhile, legitimate people trying to accomplish good get sued to oblivion because some investor didn't make his ROI, calls them scammers.
Big difference in cultures that value privacy.
I tried to read the article multiple times because I simply couldn't understand what the person is trying to talk about and thought maybe I missed something. No examples of what these people are talking about that makes them "losing touch with reality". All I got is nerds have taken over the world and it's Trumps fault.
With youtubes recent act of removing content, the video reposts are getting more prevalent in my searches. It's making youtube completely useless.
I'm not wrong. They may state that in their owners manual to try to avoid liability, but what they have been posting videos of from years past is contrary to that, encouraging people to drive hands free.
The whole excitement about Tesla's vehicles people have over it, is not that it's just an electric car, but people have the impression (Thanks to Tesla's own PR) that it's a fully autonomous electric vehicle. Admit it, you didn't buy a Tesla because it was just an electric sedan.
Do you work for Tesla? Some sort of PR firm?
"Put up or shut up."
Ok!
https://www.tesla.com/autopilot?redirect=no
"All Tesla vehicles produced in our factory, including Model 3, have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver."
I'm sure that link will be removed soon too, because you can't even get that video from Tesla's own youtube channel anymore, other than reposts.
But hey, go ahead and call me a liar! As if none of these videos ever existed.
The problem I see here is that Tesla has been basically advertising a fully automated car to us for years where you can just fall asleep in your car while it's on the move. This advertisement has been going on for years. This was the impression people got from those video demonstrations and this is why a lot of people wanted one. Now they're telling us that we should always keep our hands on the wheel and blame the drivers for accidents for not doing so.
It's not like they haven't posted videos before it on youtube. We have them showing a Tesla dropping off the driver in front of work and finding its own parking spot (Removed from Tesla's own channel), we have videos of them driving the car fully autonomous on wild roads. They've been promising these auto driving features in updates with tons of people waiting anxiously. Now since the criticism and accidents, they've clamped down on it and they've been removing any videos that advertised "Fully autonomous vehicle", but you can still find the reposts of them.
Now the only videos of their vehicle advertisement they have on their channel is just basically showing off a regular sedan basically with road/lane assistance. They took down all their videos of the car driving without a driver.
Because they're more willing to work for nothing. No training and really little experience gained in the environment they're put in. They have no mentors at these companies other than the big boss yelling at them. It's probably why I'm getting more and more supposedly 10 year experienced employees who really don't know anything.
This isn't just computers in general, this is any tech industry right now. You'd be surprised how many complaints I put in with my vendors regarding quality or delays. When I go down there to investigate, I find the operators these companies hire for their equipment do not know what they're doing. Tension controls, measurements, simple engineering concepts, quality control procedures, all beyond their capability. The managers, maintenance, no idea what I'm talking about. All they know is how to crack the whip on these low paid workers and hope a product comes out.
Even when I offer help to improve the situation and not cutting them off, it's still beyond them. They will never hire better qualified people, even when I offer them luxurious contracts. They want the high margins with minimum wage workers. Usually I get an ear full of how full of shit I am about their quality issues.
They don't care. The product is out and then discontinued in a year or two. Rinse and repeat.