For the record, those that voted for the Constitution were not "citizens" since the Constitution didn't exist when they voted for it. [*SPLAT*] -low-tech sound effect for head banging against wall in distress
Argh. They were, first of all, citizens of the various states. Secondly, the United States of America had been around for more than a decade at that point, governed by the Articles of Confederation.
hawk, avoiding entirely the fact that it wasn't ratified by direct voting
Get a PhD check
Get your private pilots license doable
Get certified in Scuba *yech* cold water!
Run 10 miles a day, be in good physical shape awe, let's just forget it.
Make sure you are comfortable speaking in public, and are fairly good at it Oh, maybe this is for me
Have diverse interests err, lawyer, statistician, computational economicst with an undergradutate in physics with a philosophy minor, makes spectacular beer, . . . I'm in!
>*Sigh* Why do so many make this assumption, slashdotters should take a few >business/industrial engineering courses to understand it's not as easy as just >selling another part.
Stef? Is that you?
hawk, who doesn't believe he's ever seen a call for more PHB's on slashdot before . . .
Gladly. And the bit that I forgot: she made threats to kill the baby to the police (my daughter heard them), but that part never made it into the newspaper, for some reason . . .
>I wonder if anyone ever asked Rodney King if he wished police carried tasers >back in the early 90s. Would have saved him one fractured skull, no?
No. He *was* tasered *twice*, and still continued resisting.
Unfortunately, my daughter witnessed an event a couple of months ago here (Las Vegas) in which a woman with a knife and a baby was pepper sprayed, shot multiple times with bean-bag shotguns, and tasered (hit at least twice, one of which slightly dazed her allowing the police to snatch the baby). She laughed these off, dancing, mocked the police, then attacked a motorist--at which point the police fired the first shot. She was shot a second time--fatally--when she shouted, "you shot me!" and charged the police with the knife.
The family insists that this was all the police' fault, as she never uses drugs (contrary to the post-mortem tests). Others have criticized the police for not having glue guns, not having nets, and not snatching the knife from her hands. Oddly, I didn't hear the usual suggestion that they should have shot the knife out of her hands, though some suggested that she should have been shot in the arm instead of the chest.
While our police are criticized for their shootings, this is one of only a couple in which they shot first (annother involved a cop being dragged from a car hijacked by the handcuffed suspect).
If I had any Techno/Trance music, I could click on the relevant genre in the browse panel, select all the music and change their genre in one go. Similarly with Lincoln Park. *shrug*
Suit yourself. I'd probably click "delete," then drop the iPod and hard drive into saltwater for good measure . . .
>FYI: Debian's graphical installer is way, way ahead of the ubuntu installer >u-bug-quity in terms of features and functionality. This is one of the many great >things going on in Debian right now.
Cool. When's the next STABLE release of Debian?
hawk, who can't remember whether it's 2010 or 2015
No, some of us (most? nearly all?) made some floppies and installed. About 6 for debian, iirc. FreeBSD grew from one to two (assuming you had a network).
This scenario was labeled the "Tux Virus" many years ago.
Typically, the scenario involved a win95 themed wm and a far-fetched belief that wine or openoffice could allow the user to be fooled at least briefly.
I'd been interested in FreeBSD for some time, and then one morning, a routine upgrade of Debian left my system dead in the water. In a fit of ideological license purity, someone pulled a critical package out of unstable. I don't believe it was libc, but it was something upon which just about everything else depended.
At that point, FreeBSD was able to successfully use my hardware, and it stayed there. I'm currently using license on the home machines again, but only because flash9 on FreeBSD can't handle some of the kids websites.
Oh, and as for another question on autodetecting hardware--since the incident above (1997?), I've had somewhat better luck with FreeBSD than linux in detecting and automatically configuring hardware. Linux has generally had more of the absolute bleeding edge, where FreeBSD has had broader coverage of "recent".
Go check the commit logs. This just isn't true. Apple has returned many patches for bugfixes in BSD. Apple has a vested interest in returning bugfixes to FreeBSD in particular (though the early flood was actually to NetBSD, iirc), because the closer Darwin and FreeBSD remain, the less Apple effort it takes to maintain Darwin.
But we will gloat about how it would have been easier to do under FreeBSD:)
[ok, n=2, but it was *substantially* easier in both caes. But I need one of them running linux for flash, and still have to get it going in Kubuntu . ..]
>By putting a price of even a buck on it you cut out the majority of the world's population.
Yes, Heinlein clearly supported free lunches for everyone . . .
hawk
Err, no, it isn't. Costs, yes; fees, no. There are some particular rules under which it happens, however, which vary from state to state.
If the US isn't the only Common Law jurisdiction in which this it the case, it is one of very few.
The purported reason is that it would discourage the little guy from suing the big guy.
hawk
>they could coin money from plastic or bubble gum or specially stamped hamsters if they chose to.
:)
Now *that* would be a method to stop people from carrying excessive amounts of cash on their persons . . .
hawk
Argh. They were, first of all, citizens of the various states. Secondly, the United States of America had been around for more than a decade at that point, governed by the Articles of Confederation.
hawk, avoiding entirely the fact that it wasn't ratified by direct voting
>2) getting ordinary folks to think "hey - that could be me/my kids up there someday! Cool!"
:)
There are folks that would *drool* over the possibility of sending their kids on that one-way trip . . .
hawk
hawk
nah, they've never been very interested in *that*.
hawk
>I mean, who wouldn't want cars to become twice as gas efficient (without losing power) every 18 months, ad infinitum?
Once it was efficient enough that fueling was only as frequent as other changes (e.g., oil change), further improvements would be insignificant.
hawk
That's a corollary of Hawkins' Second Law: "There is no lower limit to human intelligence."
hawk, who has since forgotton his own first law
>However, I wonder who's handling the conversion for them,
:)
After passing three cars driven into walls with one plane into the cliff in the distance, you'll know
hawk
>*Sigh* Why do so many make this assumption, slashdotters should take a few
>business/industrial engineering courses to understand it's not as easy as just
>selling another part.
Stef? Is that you?
hawk, who doesn't believe he's ever seen a call for more PHB's on slashdot before . . .
You must be . . .
[*ACK* Let me go!*]
Gladly. And the bit that I forgot: she made threats to kill the baby to the police (my daughter heard them), but that part never made it into the newspaper, for some reason . . .
hawk
>I wonder if anyone ever asked Rodney King if he wished police carried tasers
>back in the early 90s. Would have saved him one fractured skull, no?
No. He *was* tasered *twice*, and still continued resisting.
Unfortunately, my daughter witnessed an event a couple of months ago here (Las Vegas) in which a woman with a knife and a baby was pepper sprayed, shot multiple times with bean-bag shotguns, and tasered (hit at least twice, one of which slightly dazed her allowing the police to snatch the baby). She laughed these off, dancing, mocked the police, then attacked a motorist--at which point the police fired the first shot. She was shot a second time--fatally--when she shouted, "you shot me!" and charged the police with the knife.
The family insists that this was all the police' fault, as she never uses drugs (contrary to the post-mortem tests). Others have criticized the police for not having glue guns, not having nets, and not snatching the knife from her hands. Oddly, I didn't hear the usual suggestion that they should have shot the knife out of her hands, though some suggested that she should have been shot in the arm instead of the chest.
While our police are criticized for their shootings, this is one of only a couple in which they shot first (annother involved a cop being dragged from a car hijacked by the handcuffed suspect).
hawk
>Emacs wins again!
OK, I give in. Adding the "taser-vi-user" command *was* a good tactical decision . . .
hawk, desperately deleting emacs from his system
On behalf of comcast, it is my duty to inform you that your connection has been cancelled.
hawk
Suit yourself. I'd probably click "delete," then drop the iPod and hard drive into saltwater for good measure . . .
hawk
Which makes your approach "most better"?
hawk, the sometimes grammar nazi
>FYI: Debian's graphical installer is way, way ahead of the ubuntu installer
>u-bug-quity in terms of features and functionality. This is one of the many great
>things going on in Debian right now.
Cool. When's the next STABLE release of Debian?
hawk, who can't remember whether it's 2010 or 2015
"we all" ???
No, some of us (most? nearly all?) made some floppies and installed. About 6 for debian, iirc. FreeBSD grew from one to two (assuming you had a network).
hawk
This scenario was labeled the "Tux Virus" many years ago.
Typically, the scenario involved a win95 themed wm and a far-fetched belief that wine or openoffice could allow the user to be fooled at least briefly.
hawk
So it's free as in speech, not beer :)
hawk
I'd been interested in FreeBSD for some time, and then one morning, a routine upgrade of Debian left my system dead in the water. In a fit of ideological license purity, someone pulled a critical package out of unstable. I don't believe it was libc, but it was something upon which just about everything else depended.
At that point, FreeBSD was able to successfully use my hardware, and it stayed there. I'm currently using license on the home machines again, but only because flash9 on FreeBSD can't handle some of the kids websites.
Oh, and as for another question on autodetecting hardware--since the incident above (1997?), I've had somewhat better luck with FreeBSD than linux in detecting and automatically configuring hardware. Linux has generally had more of the absolute bleeding edge, where FreeBSD has had broader coverage of "recent".
hawk
>They've not done a thing for BSD.
Go check the commit logs. This just isn't true. Apple has returned many patches for bugfixes in BSD. Apple has a vested interest in returning bugfixes to FreeBSD in particular (though the early flood was actually to NetBSD, iirc), because the closer Darwin and FreeBSD remain, the less Apple effort it takes to maintain Darwin.
hawk
But we will gloat about how it would have been easier to do under FreeBSD :)
.]
[ok, n=2, but it was *substantially* easier in both caes. But I need one of them running linux for flash, and still have to get it going in Kubuntu . .
hawk