They're in big trouble and they think that copying Dell will pull in the bucks. It seems like all the big PC Vendors act the same these days.
The ones that did/do offer AMD CPUs only offered them as consumer machines, never business machines. The whole division of product lines into business and consumer models is a bunch of nonsense, anyway. The only real difference is video and multimedia capabilities, fer chrissake!
There are opportunities for any of the big box makers to skunk the competition by doing something different than the others. Look at how cheap these new SiS735 motherboards are! Dell has created vulnerabilities by trashing their support infrastructure and moving production offshore to gain marketshare. A smart company can outprice Dell and outperform them with better service by selling AMD computers on the business side of the aisle.
Support for your learning how to use your Debian system is definitely available. A quick search on Google brought me 302,000 results, including Progeny Linux Systems which offers paid tech support. There are free IRC channels for instant help, there is the debian site, there is usenet and Dejanews, etc. etc.
You are lucky you get to be paid to learn how to use Linux, and if that is part of the TCO, then be glad!
Don't buy ANYTHING from kiddie fuckers. Don't buy scat and expect it to smell good. Don't buy junk media. Don't put this crap into your head. Don't even bother to download an mp3. Just a waste of time.
What file did they find did this trojan infect? It says initially surfacing in the/bin directory, ok what file? What distro? What rpm? What.tgz do I have to watch out for?
Exactly. I think this 'trojan' is strictly FUD. Who ever heard of an Linux executable being emailed without being a tar.gz. This whole thing is suspicious and lightweight.
Back in the olden days, Pacbel was the 'backbone' of Northern California uucp, which served mostly email and usenet. Funny how they have become a rinky-dink internet service and even exist as an ISP only because they have a (soon to be) monopoly on DSL.
It's been a long way down for Pacbel to think they can do better by farming out their usenet services to an outfit like Prodigy.
What makes me sick very easily is how Perl is often defended by claiming that we deserve free speech, free expression.. for these people I suggest how their future wives will feel for their addictive habit, think the correlation between Perl and faithfullness, and I wonder if they'll recommend Perl for their future children (which they'll probably have at some stage).
If one is a good and obedient Micros**t customer, one has installed their many service paks and 'security' updates. All those REQUIRE a reboot. In fact, you have to reboot Win just about anytime you want to pick your nose.
With UNIX (Linux) the only time you must reboot is when you install a new kernel, and that is truly a rare occurance in production servers.
Also, he wasn't saying what he is using his 2k box for (web surfing?). I don't use 2k, but I have to use NT4 once in a while, and it DOES CRASH EARLY AND OFTEN. I am not giving Micros**t one cent for w2k or XP. I don't need it and don't want it.
If Trident sees a dramatic downturn in sales because of the lack of Linux/*BSD support, then they might change their policy. I would not hold my breath waiting for that. Linux/*BSD is probably not even a blip on Trident's sales forecasts.
And even then there is no guarantee that they would be smart enough to connect the dots. If they saw a blip in their sales, the would likely fire their sales manager.
Of course they're biased. They are serving their readership. Slashdot doesn't need to do the vapid is/isn't 'fair play' like those stupid TV talk shows do.
This is news for nerds. There's plenty of room on the web for the kind of 'objective' [laugh] sites (Toms and Sharkey) that Gilliard likes.
I think he's correct about outfits like Cnews and Ziff-Davis. They're junk. They hire journalists based on their writing abilities first, and their technical know-how second. All their stories are mostly are tiny puff pieces which are filler between the ads.
Hands down, the best tech newsites are The Register and The Inquirer. Van's Hardware, is getting pretty good, too.
One thing that I think escapes our Gillard is that IT is a big corporate swimming pool, and news is mostly closely-held secrets. Nobody speaks to IT journalists unless they have another wizz-bang product to sell. Investigative reporting in the IT industry is almost unknown.
From experience (review machines) I can tell you that a top of the range Athlon 1400 is considerably faster than a top of the range PIV 1800.
Exactly. That's why I think the story on Tom's Hardware is BOGUS. They made a mistake when they came up with the phoney name of '1600' for the Athlon 1.4 when everybody knows they would have named it 1800 or even 2000 for an Athlon Palomino.
What do you tell your client a month from now, or a year from now even, when they receive an attachment in a proprietary MS format from a major customer and they can't open it?
Assuming that SO 6 isn't available yet, I would tell them to ask their client to do a 'save as' (older format) with the document. Things like this happen all the time--even in a Micros**t-only environment.
What do you tell them when their CPA suggests they start using QuickBooks? No Open Source eqivilent will do because he needs data in the exact same format from all of his clients for use on his system.
I like SQL Ledger. If their CPA is unable to set up his Quickbooks to import data from my client's SQL dump, then HE needs help and may be willing to pay ME to help him! Even in the Windows-only world, good accountants need to be able to support Quickbooks, MYOB and Peachtree or they are just little-league bookkeepers.
As for the web-browsing issues, StarOffice will crash mercilessly if Java isn't set up correctly. SO requires Java to run javascript, too. Sun released a huge set of bug fixes to SO5.2 last December and many of the SO5.2 CDROMs that come with Linus distros don't reflect the fixes. As far as multimedia plugins for office users, well they should get back to work!
Back to my real-estate office install--they had a mixed Mac/Windows environment and an NT file server and since 4 of the five were salespeople/owners, were delighted to leave behind the issues of going all Mac (too high price), or all Windows (Mac users hated lame interface). Everybody thinks the SO interface is ugly, but the Mac users are happy not to be having to use Windows. They can go sit at somebody else's desk when they aren't around and log into the system with their own username and get their whole environment. They are delighted when I come by with a new freebie utility, such as one of those finance calculators, etc. It is working out very well.
You can't expect the poster to cite every single article and benchmark to show you what is utterly obvious.
You overlooked what the previous poster told you about the $400 price difference! Maybe nobody told you about how the Intel's chip real estate is nearly twice that of the Athlons. Better chip indeed.
If you refuse to consider economics, then you might as well pontificate about the wonderful Alpha chips are and how they are so much better than either AMD's or Intel's stuff, but what's the point?
I have found that users like their GUIs running at consistent speeds. Big apps will alter the perceived speed of the user interface.
Xterminals solve this issue by decoupling the GUI from the app. Windows always have consistent snappiness at the X-terminal. Someone firing up an app on the server doesn't alter the percieved speed of the interface for everybody else.
I set up a real estate office with a nice 1.33ghz Athlon server and 5 Xterminals using all-in-one motherboards running Durons. Sure, StarOffice is a hog, but only if there is one instance running. Each additional instance only eats up 3 or so megabytes of RAM. Each Xterminal feels very snappy, everybody got a nice 19" monitor with a small portion of the savings compared to the networked-PCs method.
I just want there to be somebody in Stallman's position to be able to jump in when these two base tools aren't in sync. I thought 2.2.4 glibc was going to fix the non-compile issues with gcc 3.0. What's the point of 2.2.4?
Isn't it now necessary these days to have three compilers, one ancient version for the kernel, one more recent for compatibility, and the third for perfoemance. It's a mess.
I am appreciating more and more Stallman's former contribution to gcc and glibc.
Look at the compile notes for glibc 2.2.4: It won't compile under gcc3.0. It won't compile under gcc2.9.3 unless you patch your compiler. What kind of CRAP is that?
I was waiting for 2.2.4 because I thought it was getting some CLEANUP to compile under gcc3.0.
I wish Stallman was back IN CHARGE of GCC and Glibc. 2.2.4 wouldn't have been released. Or maybe gcc3.0 wouldn't have been released unless it could compile glibc. These projects are looking more and more like special-purpose toys.
Apple does real world demonstrations of Photoshop and Media Cleaner Pro.
Yes, and we're laughing. Check out some real-world real world G3, G4, P3 and Athlon benchmarks here. Integer ops seem to scale well across the board with megahertz, I'd say!
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Over the years, Mac owners have enjoyed the ability to automaticall decode hqx and sit files without having them execute!
I say dump IE completely and use the alternates of which there are plenty.
I have the same problem with my Volcano II, to. Too noisy.
The ones that did/do offer AMD CPUs only offered them as consumer machines, never business machines. The whole division of product lines into business and consumer models is a bunch of nonsense, anyway. The only real difference is video and multimedia capabilities, fer chrissake!
There are opportunities for any of the big box makers to skunk the competition by doing something different than the others. Look at how cheap these new SiS735 motherboards are! Dell has created vulnerabilities by trashing their support infrastructure and moving production offshore to gain marketshare. A smart company can outprice Dell and outperform them with better service by selling AMD computers on the business side of the aisle.
You are lucky you get to be paid to learn how to use Linux, and if that is part of the TCO, then be glad!
My sentiments exactly.
Don't buy ANYTHING from kiddie fuckers. Don't buy scat and expect it to smell good. Don't buy junk media. Don't put this crap into your head. Don't even bother to download an mp3. Just a waste of time.
Michael Jackson is a kiddie fucker.
I take it then that you've never had a record contract with a big label.
Exactly. I think this 'trojan' is strictly FUD. Who ever heard of an Linux executable being emailed without being a tar.gz. This whole thing is suspicious and lightweight.
It's been a long way down for Pacbel to think they can do better by farming out their usenet services to an outfit like Prodigy.
A neutron walks into a bar and orders up a cold one.
Bartender slides a pint over to the neutron.
Neutron says, "How much do I owe you?"
Bartender says, "For you... no charge!"
Better check it then, if it hasn't been rebooted in 80 days, then that means that you haven't applied any security updates to fix the Code Red worm.
With UNIX (Linux) the only time you must reboot is when you install a new kernel, and that is truly a rare occurance in production servers.
Also, he wasn't saying what he is using his 2k box for (web surfing?). I don't use 2k, but I have to use NT4 once in a while, and it DOES CRASH EARLY AND OFTEN. I am not giving Micros**t one cent for w2k or XP. I don't need it and don't want it.
And even then there is no guarantee that they would be smart enough to connect the dots. If they saw a blip in their sales, the would likely fire their sales manager.
This is news for nerds. There's plenty of room on the web for the kind of 'objective' [laugh] sites (Toms and Sharkey) that Gilliard likes.
I think he's correct about outfits like Cnews and Ziff-Davis. They're junk. They hire journalists based on their writing abilities first, and their technical know-how second. All their stories are mostly are tiny puff pieces which are filler between the ads.
Hands down, the best tech newsites are The Register and The Inquirer. Van's Hardware, is getting pretty good, too.
One thing that I think escapes our Gillard is that IT is a big corporate swimming pool, and news is mostly closely-held secrets. Nobody speaks to IT journalists unless they have another wizz-bang product to sell. Investigative reporting in the IT industry is almost unknown.
Exactly. That's why I think the story on Tom's Hardware is BOGUS. They made a mistake when they came up with the phoney name of '1600' for the Athlon 1.4 when everybody knows they would have named it 1800 or even 2000 for an Athlon Palomino.
Assuming that SO 6 isn't available yet, I would tell them to ask their client to do a 'save as' (older format) with the document. Things like this happen all the time--even in a Micros**t-only environment.
What do you tell them when their CPA suggests they start using QuickBooks? No Open Source eqivilent will do because he needs data in the exact same format from all of his clients for use on his system.
I like SQL Ledger. If their CPA is unable to set up his Quickbooks to import data from my client's SQL dump, then HE needs help and may be willing to pay ME to help him! Even in the Windows-only world, good accountants need to be able to support Quickbooks, MYOB and Peachtree or they are just little-league bookkeepers.
As for the web-browsing issues, StarOffice will crash mercilessly if Java isn't set up correctly. SO requires Java to run javascript, too. Sun released a huge set of bug fixes to SO5.2 last December and many of the SO5.2 CDROMs that come with Linus distros don't reflect the fixes. As far as multimedia plugins for office users, well they should get back to work!
Back to my real-estate office install--they had a mixed Mac/Windows environment and an NT file server and since 4 of the five were salespeople/owners, were delighted to leave behind the issues of going all Mac (too high price), or all Windows (Mac users hated lame interface). Everybody thinks the SO interface is ugly, but the Mac users are happy not to be having to use Windows. They can go sit at somebody else's desk when they aren't around and log into the system with their own username and get their whole environment. They are delighted when I come by with a new freebie utility, such as one of those finance calculators, etc. It is working out very well.
You overlooked what the previous poster told you about the $400 price difference! Maybe nobody told you about how the Intel's chip real estate is nearly twice that of the Athlons. Better chip indeed.
If you refuse to consider economics, then you might as well pontificate about the wonderful Alpha chips are and how they are so much better than either AMD's or Intel's stuff, but what's the point?
Xterminals solve this issue by decoupling the GUI from the app. Windows always have consistent snappiness at the X-terminal. Someone firing up an app on the server doesn't alter the percieved speed of the interface for everybody else.
I set up a real estate office with a nice 1.33ghz Athlon server and 5 Xterminals using all-in-one motherboards running Durons. Sure, StarOffice is a hog, but only if there is one instance running. Each additional instance only eats up 3 or so megabytes of RAM. Each Xterminal feels very snappy, everybody got a nice 19" monitor with a small portion of the savings compared to the networked-PCs method.
Isn't it now necessary these days to have three compilers, one ancient version for the kernel, one more recent for compatibility, and the third for perfoemance. It's a mess.
We need a Stallman.
Look at the compile notes for glibc 2.2.4: It won't compile under gcc3.0. It won't compile under gcc2.9.3 unless you patch your compiler. What kind of CRAP is that?
I was waiting for 2.2.4 because I thought it was getting some CLEANUP to compile under gcc3.0.
I wish Stallman was back IN CHARGE of GCC and Glibc. 2.2.4 wouldn't have been released. Or maybe gcc3.0 wouldn't have been released unless it could compile glibc. These projects are looking more and more like special-purpose toys.
Yes, and we're laughing. Check out some real-world real world G3, G4, P3 and Athlon benchmarks here. Integer ops seem to scale well across the board with megahertz, I'd say!