I'm of the opinion that anyone doing full-time work deserves a wage to live on. Meager living fine, but enough for a roof over one's head and food in one's mouth.
Fine. You start a business, and pay all your workers with that idea in mind. Make sure it's a large business with dozens of employees performing common jobs that don't require much skill. Pay them what you feel is fair.
Come back after it goes bankrupt, and let us know what you found out.
Don't forget Abe Vigoda's part in that episode. His character, Fish, had a brownie or two, and felt really good. He drags in a young guy that he arrested, and the guy is going on about how the old man chased him down, over rooftops and jumping between buildings. Then Fish finds out there is hash in the brownies, and looks sad. They as him why he's sad, and he says, "It's the first time in years I feel good, and it's illegal."
The focus on this is a laughable anachronism. The urban/rural split was a big deal when large sections of the populace was agrarian and famines still happened from time to time. Also, the free vs. slave state thing was a big deal. Nowadays, there is no reasonable argument for making one vote from a rural citizen more power than one vote from an urban citizen.
I like how you are open minded about the opposing viewpoint concerning the Electoral College. You obviously intend to listen to detractors with respect and a desire to hear opinions that don't correspond with your own.
The former slave states can keep their two senators apiece, that's fine, but there's no reasonable justification for giving them more influence over the presidency.
Maybe I spoke too soon.
Remember the Florida recount in the Bush-Gore 2000 election? If the presidency were decided by the POPULAR vote you'd have to recount the WHOLE COUNTRY in such a situation.
Um, no. He won by half a million on the nationwide stage, i.e. not enough to demand a recount. Everyone admitted that Gore won. Furthermore, even if this weren't the case, saving us the trouble of a larger recount has got to be one of the worst conceivable justifications I've ever heard for the electoral college.
You misunderstand the purposes of the electoral college.
Obviously, it is you who misunderstand it: Alexander Hamilton described the framers' view of how electors would be chosen, "A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated [tasks]."
There are probably better quotes available if I kept digging but that's the essence of it right there: electors were NOT expected to blindly vote based on their constituency. There's a reason why there is no such compulsion at the federal level, and no compulsion at all in 21 states. Many of the founding fathers were distrustful of straight, unalloyed democracy.
The electoral college was one of many firewalls designed to prevent mob rule from getting out of control.
How did you just type those two paragraphs without realizing that doing away with the EC will guarantee the straight unalloyed democracy and mob rule you seemingly wish to avoid?
I have a better idea than just "fixing" the Electoral College. Let's repeal the entire Constitution, and then next year work on a new Constitution that gives your political favorites more say.
never. because if it went away, then all states outside of California, Texas, Illinois, Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan would basically never have a say.
Or the smaller states can increase their population rate. That's what this election was really about: white people not making enough babies to keep immigration in check, and people fleeing the rural areas for the cities.
Excuse me, but that is the job of the federal government, not Jack and Diane off behind the shade tree.
States don't have rights. They have powers that are delegated. Read the 9th and 10th amendments rather than parroting bullshit.
9th) The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
10th) The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Nothing in those two sentences that says that states don't have rights.
Tech companies that produce their hardware in China don't count for "the counties which are producing" anything. Same goes for the financial centers that make up numbers as they go along. Give me something substantial actually being produced in a county, or get off the box.
That's the thing. You cannot simply "change the Electoral College" as if it's a voter's guide. It is part of the contract between the sovereign states that make up our nation. The smaller states never would have approved of the Constitution if the leadership was all based on popular vote. That is why we have the Senate, rather than just the House of Representatives.
To do anything that modifies or eliminates the EC, you would have to get every state but the dozen most conservative ones to vote to make that change. Good luck on that one.
I'm pretty sure the Democrats could swing every election for the next 40 years if they simply got rid of their "We know what's best for you morons" attitude.
The funny thing is that they've been told that, and they still can't manage it. I've heard similar from Rush Limbaugh, followed by him laughing at the fact that the democrats would never follow the advice because it's obviously a ruse if he said it.
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I'm of the opinion that anyone doing full-time work deserves a wage to live on. Meager living fine, but enough for a roof over one's head and food in one's mouth.
Fine. You start a business, and pay all your workers with that idea in mind. Make sure it's a large business with dozens of employees performing common jobs that don't require much skill. Pay them what you feel is fair.
Come back after it goes bankrupt, and let us know what you found out.
Just hope the enemy thinks you aren't armed, until it's too late.
Worse.
He's a conservative.
His warnings weren't heeded?
Don't forget Abe Vigoda's part in that episode. His character, Fish, had a brownie or two, and felt really good. He drags in a young guy that he arrested, and the guy is going on about how the old man chased him down, over rooftops and jumping between buildings. Then Fish finds out there is hash in the brownies, and looks sad. They as him why he's sad, and he says, "It's the first time in years I feel good, and it's illegal."
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All I'm gonna say.
I mean, can anyone seriously picture anyone other than Nathan Fillion as Mal?
No one else in Hollywood is as ruggedly handsome as he is.
Worldwide? or US only? or some other country/region only?
What complaint do you have against Jeff Beck?
Nobody is changing the rules. LL is just appealing to the electors to not choose Trump, and for very legitimate reasons.
Being butt-hurt is not a legitimate reason.
urban/rural split.
The focus on this is a laughable anachronism. The urban/rural split was a big deal when large sections of the populace was agrarian and famines still happened from time to time. Also, the free vs. slave state thing was a big deal. Nowadays, there is no reasonable argument for making one vote from a rural citizen more power than one vote from an urban citizen.
I like how you are open minded about the opposing viewpoint concerning the Electoral College. You obviously intend to listen to detractors with respect and a desire to hear opinions that don't correspond with your own.
The former slave states can keep their two senators apiece, that's fine, but there's no reasonable justification for giving them more influence over the presidency.
Maybe I spoke too soon.
Remember the Florida recount in the Bush-Gore 2000 election? If the presidency were decided by the POPULAR vote you'd have to recount the WHOLE COUNTRY in such a situation.
Um, no. He won by half a million on the nationwide stage, i.e. not enough to demand a recount. Everyone admitted that Gore won. Furthermore, even if this weren't the case, saving us the trouble of a larger recount has got to be one of the worst conceivable justifications I've ever heard for the electoral college.
You misunderstand the purposes of the electoral college.
Obviously, it is you who misunderstand it: Alexander Hamilton described the framers' view of how electors would be chosen, "A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated [tasks]."
There are probably better quotes available if I kept digging but that's the essence of it right there: electors were NOT expected to blindly vote based on their constituency. There's a reason why there is no such compulsion at the federal level, and no compulsion at all in 21 states. Many of the founding fathers were distrustful of straight, unalloyed democracy.
The electoral college was one of many firewalls designed to prevent mob rule from getting out of control.
How did you just type those two paragraphs without realizing that doing away with the EC will guarantee the straight unalloyed democracy and mob rule you seemingly wish to avoid?
I have a better idea than just "fixing" the Electoral College. Let's repeal the entire Constitution, and then next year work on a new Constitution that gives your political favorites more say.
How about that idea?
The electoral college is working fine, and we will soon have Trump as president. I didn't vote for him, but I knew he was going to win.
never. because if it went away, then all states outside of California, Texas, Illinois, Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan would basically never have a say.
Or the smaller states can increase their population rate. That's what this election was really about: white people not making enough babies to keep immigration in check, and people fleeing the rural areas for the cities.
Excuse me, but that is the job of the federal government, not Jack and Diane off behind the shade tree.
If there was still a mainstream KKK the loons who think they are the klan now probably wouldn't be allowed to be members.
I refuse to be a member of any klan that would have me as a member.
States don't have rights. They have powers that are delegated. Read the 9th and 10th amendments rather than parroting bullshit.
9th) The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
10th) The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Nothing in those two sentences that says that states don't have rights.
Huh? What? Why am i down here. I was posting somewhere else. Oh, I see.
Hmmh. Let me start this over.
You rang sir?
Oh sure, as if we trust Google. They would lie about absentee ballots if they thought it would get Hillary elected.
Tech companies that produce their hardware in China don't count for "the counties which are producing" anything. Same goes for the financial centers that make up numbers as they go along. Give me something substantial actually being produced in a county, or get off the box.
US citizenship is apparently an attendance award.
That's the thing. You cannot simply "change the Electoral College" as if it's a voter's guide. It is part of the contract between the sovereign states that make up our nation. The smaller states never would have approved of the Constitution if the leadership was all based on popular vote. That is why we have the Senate, rather than just the House of Representatives.
To do anything that modifies or eliminates the EC, you would have to get every state but the dozen most conservative ones to vote to make that change. Good luck on that one.
He's talking about one from before you were born. Before I was born, for that matter.
They apparently encoded your grammar checking software.
Ahh, the ol' Bugs Bunny rabbit season bit.
I'm pretty sure the Democrats could swing every election for the next 40 years if they simply got rid of their "We know what's best for you morons" attitude.
The funny thing is that they've been told that, and they still can't manage it. I've heard similar from Rush Limbaugh, followed by him laughing at the fact that the democrats would never follow the advice because it's obviously a ruse if he said it.