Would you please stop posting as such if you are sooo very ignorant on the subject. I wouldn't mind you posting questions, but when you start making statements like the one above, it's time to shut the hell up. I'm not a mac user, but from what I gather the BSD part of Mac OS X will be completely hidden from the user, but will allow programmers access to the POSIX kernel. Traditional BSD directories will exist like/usr/bin/lib but will be hidden by default. Also there will be a terminal app (maybe) that won't be installed by default, so you don't have to use the BSD part explicitly if you don't want to. Sometimes it's hard to tell an idiot from a troll, which ever one you are, you're good at it.
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I have to agree with you on this one:)
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
Uhm, I don't believe he said that all things Microsoft were bad. He was just giving his oppinion on the subject. He said that he was interested in ASP which is a (pretty much, I don't know how many people use the UNIX version provided by a third party company so I can't say this for sure) MS thing.
Plus, I believe if you fired someone based on their website you could be facing a lawsuit.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
You can do that with RedHat:) You can install over NFS, FTP, or HTTP (maybe others).
BTW, you will love FreeBSD (my OS of choice) as soon as you work out its differences. In FreeBSD there are man pages for everything including kernel modules. I have a USB mouse that I couldn't get working at first, I got frustrated looking for HOW-TOs (as I would in linux) then typed `man usb' and voila, up came how to get it working, then a `man ums' for the specifics of usb mice.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
People are typing that this cannot be useful in any way, but I say that is completely false! Obviously the reson to port BSD to the dreamcast is so that they can then port Nethack to that platform.
The NetBSD folks realize that the Dreamcast is a gaming platform, and they will treat it as such.... why with fortune, nethack, and hunt on there (for the multiplayer experiece) this could be sold as dreamcast software in stores.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
It's the parents' jobs to restrict access of information to their children, not the governments. I am of the belief that people are responsible for themselves when it comes to things like this. Wouldn't it be great if your religion was banned in your country because they found that it is not suitable for citizens to partake in that religion (scientology). Where do you draw the line for allowing the government to choose what is good and bad for your information wise?
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
If it just broke, that would be different, but from what the previous user is typing, it looks like it was designed broken which is not acceptable. Let's say you buy a automobile, and there is a recall because upon a small collision the gas tank explodes, do you want to have to pay for their design flaw? No.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
No, I don't think so, I think the problem is more likely the quality of the curriculum rather than the fact that there are computers there. My sister attends elementary school, and they do not have ANY computers there (I attended the same school, but had Apple IIs to learn typing) and they waste so much time there with cultural education, and other crap, that they don't bother to teach math or grammar correctly. She also gets hours of homework every night which from what I've seen is a complete waste of time (especially at that age). This leads me to ask myself, ``What are they doing in school over there since they have so much home work?'' (it is my opinion that there should be NO homework at elementary level), this added on to all of the rules they have "read 15 minutes a day, have your parents sign this folder indicating that you read for the duration, sign this, sign that". They treat the kids like they budget their time. At that age they want to play, not be filling out paper work.
So, no, it is not computers that are causing the problems (that is like saying that since in other countries with better education systems they use #3 pencils as a standard that we generally use #2 pencils is the cause for our poor educational system).
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
While this can be true, anyone who is ``destined'' to become a programmer will learn more than just the drag-n-drop interface of MS Studio. Plus, that is only if they're doing GUI programming which they most likely wouldn't be doing if they are just learning how to program. Even MS Studio can be used to make cli tools, and I don't think there are any ``wizards'' for that.
People used to say that higher level programming languages would make programmer's weak as they would be shielded from the lower workings of the system, but we know what writing your own I/O library is like re-inventing the wheel.
My first graphical user interface programming experience was with MS visual C++ for Windows 3.11. It generated all sorts of MFC code for me, but soon I was curious about the inner workings of the wizard, so I looked into it (I've never touched MFC again:)). I think that others would do the same.
So, in conclusion, I believe that advanced programming tools will not make new programmers any ``weaker'', as any real programmer will become curious at the inner workings of the wizards and explore the code themselves. Then, once the inner workings are learned, the tool can be used to save time and effort when generating graphical interfaces.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
I disagree that the internet prevents learning as I attended a high school with a computer lab and witnessed how it can be used for education. For things like political science, and history the internet can be a great resource. I also administered my home linux box through the 'net, and played games of hunt with other people, but that's beside the point:)
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
It would be just as if I said that Windows' compression isn't as good as linux's. (of course, refering to winzip vs bzip2, but I wouldn't mention that). Comparing windows vs linux in that case wouldn't make much sense, and neither would it in your case. If you want to compare various MPEG playback programs, be my guest.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
Hmmm, I don't think that Linux has the ability to play MPEGs, although Linus might want to look into adding support for doing so. Although it is my opinion that an MPEG playback function does not belong in in the kernel.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
Linus made Linux for personal reasons before the reasons of others. That is how humans work. I should revise my previous statement to read that people always think of themselves before others, and this includes money a lot of the time. I know that when I am working on free software I am doing it for personal reasons first (satisfaction from making software that others will use, sense of accomplishment, etc).
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
Firstly: You seem to have forgotten what drives everything. That is money. When you put people before money you don't get invention. And to tell you the truth, it will ALWAYS be money before people, as that is human nature. Secondly: Why can we not get along and RESPECT each other's cultures. The citizens of the United States have a different culture from Europeans. Let us not resort to a flame war over which economic system is better. Remember, love not hate.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
That is because implementing something such as this in the United States would cost signifigantly more as the percentage of people who own computers who don't have internet access in this country is higher. Plus, this isn't exactly free as the government has to get it from somewhere, and that place is the citizens. I don't want the money I give to the government going to someone else's internet access (until they start paying for mine)... and oh, I want a free car while they're at it. Let's just give everyone everything!
I'm sorry for the sarcasm, but I would like to see all who advocate such things give their own money to funds that assist those things.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
I want to know if the users who list the auctions get their listing fees back from eBay, as they are not breaking any of the rules of ebay by selling their legal software.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
Alas, I make too much money from eBay to boycott them:) I think this is more of MS's fault, as eBay most likely is doing this to avoid complications from MS.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
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Would you please stop posting as such if you are sooo very ignorant on the subject. I wouldn't mind you posting questions, but when you start making statements like the one above, it's time to shut the hell up. I'm not a mac user, but from what I gather the BSD part of Mac OS X will be completely hidden from the user, but will allow programmers access to the POSIX kernel. Traditional BSD directories will exist like /usr /bin /lib but will be hidden by default. Also there will be a terminal app (maybe) that won't be installed by default, so you don't have to use the BSD part explicitly if you don't want to. Sometimes it's hard to tell an idiot from a troll, which ever one you are, you're good at it.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
I have to agree with you on this one :)
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
Uhm, I don't believe he said that all things Microsoft were bad. He was just giving his oppinion on the subject. He said that he was interested in ASP which is a (pretty much, I don't know how many people use the UNIX version provided by a third party company so I can't say this for sure) MS thing.
Plus, I believe if you fired someone based on their website you could be facing a lawsuit.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
You can do that with RedHat :) You can install over NFS, FTP, or HTTP (maybe others).
BTW, you will love FreeBSD (my OS of choice) as soon as you work out its differences. In FreeBSD there are man pages for everything including kernel modules. I have a USB mouse that I couldn't get working at first, I got frustrated looking for HOW-TOs (as I would in linux) then typed `man usb' and voila, up came how to get it working, then a `man ums' for the specifics of usb mice.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
People are typing that this cannot be useful in any way, but I say that is completely false! Obviously the reson to port BSD to the dreamcast is so that they can then port Nethack to that platform. The NetBSD folks realize that the Dreamcast is a gaming platform, and they will treat it as such.... why with fortune, nethack, and hunt on there (for the multiplayer experiece) this could be sold as dreamcast software in stores.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
This post is not an attack on the parent to this thread, just my opinion.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
It's the parents' jobs to restrict access of information to their children, not the governments. I am of the belief that people are responsible for themselves when it comes to things like this. Wouldn't it be great if your religion was banned in your country because they found that it is not suitable for citizens to partake in that religion (scientology). Where do you draw the line for allowing the government to choose what is good and bad for your information wise?
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
If it just broke, that would be different, but from what the previous user is typing, it looks like it was designed broken which is not acceptable. Let's say you buy a automobile, and there is a recall because upon a small collision the gas tank explodes, do you want to have to pay for their design flaw? No.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
You seemed to have missed his point! If you (re)read his first expression you will understand his point, the rest of his post backs it up.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
No, I don't think so, I think the problem is more likely the quality of the curriculum rather than the fact that there are computers there. My sister attends elementary school, and they do not have ANY computers there (I attended the same school, but had Apple IIs to learn typing) and they waste so much time there with cultural education, and other crap, that they don't bother to teach math or grammar correctly. She also gets hours of homework every night which from what I've seen is a complete waste of time (especially at that age). This leads me to ask myself, ``What are they doing in school over there since they have so much home work?'' (it is my opinion that there should be NO homework at elementary level), this added on to all of the rules they have "read 15 minutes a day, have your parents sign this folder indicating that you read for the duration, sign this, sign that". They treat the kids like they budget their time. At that age they want to play, not be filling out paper work.
So, no, it is not computers that are causing the problems (that is like saying that since in other countries with better education systems they use #3 pencils as a standard that we generally use #2 pencils is the cause for our poor educational system).
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
While this can be true, anyone who is ``destined'' to become a programmer will learn more than just the drag-n-drop interface of MS Studio. Plus, that is only if they're doing GUI programming which they most likely wouldn't be doing if they are just learning how to program. Even MS Studio can be used to make cli tools, and I don't think there are any ``wizards'' for that.
:)). I think that others would do the same.
People used to say that higher level programming languages would make programmer's weak as they would be shielded from the lower workings of the system, but we know what writing your own I/O library is like re-inventing the wheel.
My first graphical user interface programming experience was with MS visual C++ for Windows 3.11. It generated all sorts of MFC code for me, but soon I was curious about the inner workings of the wizard, so I looked into it (I've never touched MFC again
So, in conclusion, I believe that advanced programming tools will not make new programmers any ``weaker'', as any real programmer will become curious at the inner workings of the wizards and explore the code themselves. Then, once the inner workings are learned, the tool can be used to save time and effort when generating graphical interfaces.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
I disagree that the internet prevents learning as I attended a high school with a computer lab and witnessed how it can be used for education. For things like political science, and history the internet can be a great resource. I also administered my home linux box through the 'net, and played games of hunt with other people, but that's beside the point :)
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
Of course! We're humans, that's how we function.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
"We are a very dangerous society with our great notion of superiority over everything." That is simply human nature and it exists everywhere.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
HAHA, I know.
It would be just as if I said that Windows' compression isn't as good as linux's. (of course, refering to winzip vs bzip2, but I wouldn't mention that). Comparing windows vs linux in that case wouldn't make much sense, and neither would it in your case. If you want to compare various MPEG playback programs, be my guest.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
Hmmm, I don't think that Linux has the ability to play MPEGs, although Linus might want to look into adding support for doing so. Although it is my opinion that an MPEG playback function does not belong in in the kernel.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
May I suggest The Wheel of Time if you want a non sci-fi FPS.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
Whoa, re-read his post, and realize that he is a troll. Come on! Built in game degauss?
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
Linus made Linux for personal reasons before the reasons of others. That is how humans work. I should revise my previous statement to read that people always think of themselves before others, and this includes money a lot of the time.
I know that when I am working on free software I am doing it for personal reasons first (satisfaction from making software that others will use, sense of accomplishment, etc).
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
I never said it was great. I stated a fact of human nature.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
Firstly: You seem to have forgotten what drives everything. That is money. When you put people before money you don't get invention. And to tell you the truth, it will ALWAYS be money before people, as that is human nature.
Secondly: Why can we not get along and RESPECT each other's cultures. The citizens of the United States have a different culture from Europeans. Let us not resort to a flame war over which economic system is better. Remember, love not hate.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
That is because implementing something such as this in the United States would cost signifigantly more as the percentage of people who own computers who don't have internet access in this country is higher. Plus, this isn't exactly free as the government has to get it from somewhere, and that place is the citizens. I don't want the money I give to the government going to someone else's internet access (until they start paying for mine)... and oh, I want a free car while they're at it.
Let's just give everyone everything!
I'm sorry for the sarcasm, but I would like to see all who advocate such things give their own money to funds that assist those things.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
But this is between two American companies. They have to follow American law. They don't have to follow French laws, though, for example.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
I want to know if the users who list the auctions get their listing fees back from eBay, as they are not breaking any of the rules of ebay by selling their legal software.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man
Alas, I make too much money from eBay to boycott them :) I think this is more of MS's fault, as eBay most likely is doing this to avoid complications from MS.
He who knows not, and knows he knows not is a wise man