Yes, there are plenty of crazy-ass ways to grow food that reduce water and nutrient requirements... but they don't work in the real world. In my back yard I can afford to have my crop crash one year because my crazy food plot experiment failed. In Africa, you die. There is no government safety net for your family to fall into. They'll die to. You need crops that will grow no matter what. They need to grow in drought, in flood, survive pests, survive in poor soil. For that you need GMO/Fertilizers/Pesticides. You plant the seeds, you spray the spray, and you eat that year. Plain and simple.
Sorry, you do not know that. You may think you do, but you don't. No one can know. That's the point the justice was making. It's impossible to know if anything you say or do could implicate you in some crime you weren't even aware was illegal.
Plagiarise the wrong thing and I can guarantee you a prosecutor could find a way to indite you. In this case it was actual software code, so that makes it very easy...
Copyright violators of the DMCA face large fines and imprisonment. A defendant faces a monetary fine up to $500,000, up to five years in jail, or both a fine and jail for a first offense. Repeat offenders may be fined up to $1,000,000, as long as ten years in prison, or both a fine and prison.
I'm not saying they would use that law against these students. They probobly wouldn't... its stupid. But they could. And you never know when you're part of the next witch hunt or not.
Watch the video in my sig. The premise behind this is explained, in detail, by both a law professor and a police officer. They can send you to prison for just about anything you do... but they can usually only make it stick with a confession, and usually that confession is made by an idiot that talks when they shouldn't have and confesses to something they did not even know was a crime.
MySQL is a good example! I to do MySQL... but where I work, I'm the only one. Everyone else does Oracle. When they try to hit my database, they get all confused and come over to my desk. What on earth is going on?!!? I look at their SQL and say "This should never work. What on earth are you doing?!"
After looking at this for a while, I then learned that Other forms of SQL, especially Oracle, fix your bad code. Not kidding... So code that should not work, the database figures out what you want to do and fixes it. That's both good and bad. It saves you development time, and it lets you hire... well, to be frank, cheaper report guys. Even an idiot can write basic reports for Oracle. Move them to MySQL and they need to know what they are doing. It's not fixing anything for you. It also has it's downsides... you get lazy. I was writing reports in it for a few months for a project and I came back... oh, I can't do that here. That's right. Oh, I can't do a join like that... etc...
On the DBA side, Oracle makes some major tasks easier. Sometimes when I want to do some major things in MySQL I have to write actual applications or scripts to get the job done. Plan several steps, do them in the right order, etc... and some tasks like that in Oracle are just basic commands. Do X... it ticks away... done. That's nice. But again, it makes you lazy. Leads to you having staff that doesn't really know all the steps required to do X manually.
That said... I dont think any of that matters. Oracle costs insane amounts of money. MySQL (and a dozen others) is free. And the differences aren't that big of a deal. Any person that does Oracle should be able to get up to speed in MySQL or whatever, in no time. Those major operations that Oracle makes easy? How often do they happen?
The Oracle guys around me hate anything but it though. "Get a real database!" they say (for real) They have this general feeling that the company should fork over the cash for it so they don't have to bother with the trivial tasks they find annoying in the same way that the company should pay for free coffee. They seem to forget that if the company went with a free option they could literally triple every DBA and SQL guys salary and still save hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. That's how expensive Oracle is.
Ah yes... another group that feels its your patriotic duty to give the government our money. And to what glorious end should will the government put googles money? The NSA? The 3rd war in Iraq? Propping up yet another 3rd world dictator to keep the price of some commodity down? No thanks.
I am sure that some people are better or more sensitive to this sort of thing than others. Personally, I've been a musician for decades. So Sound is something I've very keyed in on. I can be laying on the couch and know if one of my totally silent cats enters the room. Something furry like that definitely impacts the sound. It's something I've noticed for a long time. I can actually follow a moving object around the room with my hearing.
Now, I should clarify, my house is all 1950s hardwood floors. So a furry animal against a wood floor, sound wise, is like throwing red paint on a white canvas. It's a very obvious affect. A cat moving around a carpeted room might be a lot harder to pick out. But it's all the same affect.
For a more dramatic example of what I'm talking about. Sit in a room with an open door. Then have someone stand in the door way. That should make the effect clear as day to just about anyone. The entire shape of the room changes. They are blocking sounds that you should be hearing from down the hall.
There are similar laws on the books about reporting crimes however... But they are nearly impossible to prosecute because they need to prove you knew what had happened. Which is inside your own head. The only way they can prove that you knew is by your own statements. Which is why you cannot be forced to testify against yourself unless you volunteer and again, why you should never, ever, talk. You don't have to lie, you don't have to tell the truth. Just keep your mouth shut.
First, I agree with almost all of what you said. Never implicate yourself. Ever. Don't lie about it, don't tell the truth about it, don't say anything about it unless compelled to speak by a court (and even then, run every word by your lawyer first). However, before we go all tough-guy with "get a warrant"...
By admitting to copying someone else's code you could be confessing to a real crime that could result in time in prison.
Complete and utter bullshit. Plagiarism does not commit a crime, period. Academic violation, yes. Institutional violation, yes. Intellectual violation, yes. Probably a workplace violation in some cases (though typically only if you create content for your employer intended for public consumption). But criminal violation? No, no, no.
At most, the real author could sue for copyright violation - non-commercial, academic, non-distributed copyright violation. Good luck even finding a lawyer to waste time on that goldmine of a case.
Sorry, it doesn't matter what you think. And I never said it would be a copyright law you broke. You have no idea which laws you could break... none what-so-ever...
The complexity of modern federal criminal law, codified in several thousand sections of the United States Code and the virtually infinite variety of factual circumstances that might trigger an investigation into a possible violation of the law, make it difficult for anyone to know, in advance, just when a particular set of statements might later appear (to a prosecutor) to be relevant to some such investigation.
- Stephen Breyer Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States
Think you're smarter than a Supreme court justice? Do not assume that you know the law better than a prosecutor that's poring over emails after your dean forwarded them on with a note "Hey frank, I hate this kid... screwer him if you can"
You break federal law, all day, every day. It's just a matter of if authorities want to get you... and if you provide them enough evidence to do so.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!! If you're going to cheat then cheat. If you're going to be honest, then be honest. Mixing the two is a very bad idea.
Note that their promise of no leniency to those who don't confess is still fulfilled if they also grant no leniency to those who do.
Wrong... you should never lie... or tell the truth. You shouldn't talk at all. Even honestly and truthfully asserting your innocence can be used against you in court. Obviously, you shouldn't cheat. But weather you do or not should have no impact on what you say to authorities later... which is nothing.
Anyone can do this. You're probably even aware of it if you're married.
You arrive home after work, walk in through the garage and immediately know somethings different but you don't know what it is. You round the corner and your wife has bought a new rug... or cabinet... or something. Do you have ESP? No... the room "sounds" different. How do you know when someones creeping up behind you? Same thing...
I used to deer hunt with my father, and his tree stand was insanely high at over 70ft (he liked to think of himself as a sniper) and you could definitely hear the difference when you were the high in the trees than if you were in my stand which was at a much less terrifying 20ft off the ground.
Never, ever, testify against yourself. Even in the case of a college, it's foolish.
Why am I here professor? Is it because of the assignment? It's all a big misunderstanding. She invited me over to work on the assignment and perhaps I thought too much of it. But she never clearly said "no", so you naturally understand..
What? No, I didn't copy the answer.
More like "Where did I get the answers? Oh, I went to this torrent site and downloaded the course files... see? That's a $100,000 software package? I had no idea. Grand theft? FBI agent you say? I thought that was your secretary... What tape recorder?"
No... people take guns into schools because those people are Crazy.
Stop trying to make political points by citing the actions of the mentally deranged. They are nuts... there is no rationale to their actions. They are impossible to prevent or prepare for. Until we cure mental illness, there will always be crazy people doing crazy things that upset us. Laws only restrict the rational. The irrational will continue with whatever they were doing irrelevant of weather there is a sign or not.
Never, ever, testify against yourself. Even in the case of a college, it's foolish. If they know you did it, they know you did it. Leniency? What a joke. If they had the evidence, they wouldn't be offering a deal. What's more likely to happen is that you admit it, and in the same email or further interviews you'll confess to other violations that they'll nail you on. Furthermore, in cheating, you are almost guaranteed to have broken state or federal law. By admitting to copying someone else's code you could be confessing to a real crime that could result in time in prison.
If you doubt this, see the video in my Sig. Never admit to wrong doing to a public official or law enforcement. Assume any email you send will immediately be turned over.
Clearly, all trademarks should be meaningless and indefensible.
You're trying to be snarky, but I agree with your snark. Name your product after a common object and you should not be able to copyright the name. It's a fairly simple thing to avoid.
More like the complaint about the name went to their lawyers who said "What's open source? Buzz off hippies!" Then the controversy hit their marketing department... who said "We're going to call this thing Gnome? That's a terrible name! And hippies have money now you dolts!"
Okay.. I assume that's the reason. The people who believe in encryption will just have to encrypt their mail before it leaves the machine. That's just the way it is. How many times does it need to be said? If you want something done right...
How is it that anybody trusts their providers with the kind of history they have? I mean, can we tawk?
No, this is just firewall management. The problem is on the emails server side. Failed connections shouldn't default to plain text for Christs sake. STARTTLS is a way to run encrypted traffic on a plain text port. ISPs are not going to allow that. You can still send encrypted email, just not over that port. This is a failure on the email providers side, not the ISPs.
My sons Black (Adopted) and is getting his first computer in a few days for his 7th birthday. It's got Kubuntu, the Steam client for some games, and he's already learning some that will teach him about functions. He absolutely loves computers and is already running circles around Mama.
There is a less pessimistic translation: "Please pass a law so that our competitors are forced to spend money securing their systems, so that we can justify doing so without fear of being out-competed."
less pessimistic = extremely unlikely but supports my world-view so I chose to believe it despite the evidence.
You shouldn't be able to trademark any word that's commonly used in the English language to mean something entirely different than the product in question. Especially one that's likely been in use for hundreds of years like "Gnome"
But I wasn't talking about destruction. Gods wrath can have my house, leave me out of it. Which is more likely to kill me? Earthquake. You can see Hurricanes and tornadoes coming from a long long way off. Tornadoes sound like a freight train approaching. There's no mistaking that. The people that get killed are usually living in trailers or don't have basements. Hurricane? You usually have DAYS of warning. Eathquake? You're just sitting there, reading the paper and BAM! Buildings falling on you. Not cool.
Oh and floods? You have to be an idiot to get hurt in a flood. Trust me, I know a lot of idiots to. I've had plenty of people tell me about the awesome house they are looking at... River front! On a hill side! I just roll my eyes. If you have water on one side of your house and a hill on the other... you're going to get flooded. It's just a matter of time.
Translation: Please pass a law that dictates the minimum effort we are required to put forward so we can barely meet that very low bar and not get sued. As it is, we have to actually pay attention to security and update constantly. If you pass a law, it will be out of date in about 3 months... but hey! At least we can't get sued. And that's all that really matters.
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Yes, there are plenty of crazy-ass ways to grow food that reduce water and nutrient requirements... but they don't work in the real world. In my back yard I can afford to have my crop crash one year because my crazy food plot experiment failed. In Africa, you die. There is no government safety net for your family to fall into. They'll die to. You need crops that will grow no matter what. They need to grow in drought, in flood, survive pests, survive in poor soil. For that you need GMO/Fertilizers/Pesticides. You plant the seeds, you spray the spray, and you eat that year. Plain and simple.
"the sustainable-farming nonprofit Genetic Resources Action International"
Yea, that's an unbiased and science based organization right there.
Sorry, you do not know that. You may think you do, but you don't. No one can know. That's the point the justice was making. It's impossible to know if anything you say or do could implicate you in some crime you weren't even aware was illegal.
Plagiarise the wrong thing and I can guarantee you a prosecutor could find a way to indite you.
In this case it was actual software code, so that makes it very easy...
Copyright violators of the DMCA face large fines and imprisonment. A defendant faces a monetary fine up to $500,000, up to five years in jail, or both a fine and jail for a first offense. Repeat offenders may be fined up to $1,000,000, as long as ten years in prison, or both a fine and prison.
I'm not saying they would use that law against these students. They probobly wouldn't... its stupid. But they could. And you never know when you're part of the next witch hunt or not.
Watch the video in my sig. The premise behind this is explained, in detail, by both a law professor and a police officer. They can send you to prison for just about anything you do... but they can usually only make it stick with a confession, and usually that confession is made by an idiot that talks when they shouldn't have and confesses to something they did not even know was a crime.
MySQL is a good example! I to do MySQL... but where I work, I'm the only one. Everyone else does Oracle. When they try to hit my database, they get all confused and come over to my desk. What on earth is going on?!!? I look at their SQL and say "This should never work. What on earth are you doing?!"
After looking at this for a while, I then learned that Other forms of SQL, especially Oracle, fix your bad code. Not kidding... So code that should not work, the database figures out what you want to do and fixes it. That's both good and bad. It saves you development time, and it lets you hire... well, to be frank, cheaper report guys. Even an idiot can write basic reports for Oracle. Move them to MySQL and they need to know what they are doing. It's not fixing anything for you. It also has it's downsides... you get lazy. I was writing reports in it for a few months for a project and I came back... oh, I can't do that here. That's right. Oh, I can't do a join like that... etc...
On the DBA side, Oracle makes some major tasks easier. Sometimes when I want to do some major things in MySQL I have to write actual applications or scripts to get the job done. Plan several steps, do them in the right order, etc... and some tasks like that in Oracle are just basic commands. Do X... it ticks away... done. That's nice. But again, it makes you lazy. Leads to you having staff that doesn't really know all the steps required to do X manually.
That said... I dont think any of that matters. Oracle costs insane amounts of money. MySQL (and a dozen others) is free. And the differences aren't that big of a deal. Any person that does Oracle should be able to get up to speed in MySQL or whatever, in no time. Those major operations that Oracle makes easy? How often do they happen?
The Oracle guys around me hate anything but it though. "Get a real database!" they say (for real) They have this general feeling that the company should fork over the cash for it so they don't have to bother with the trivial tasks they find annoying in the same way that the company should pay for free coffee. They seem to forget that if the company went with a free option they could literally triple every DBA and SQL guys salary and still save hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. That's how expensive Oracle is.
Ah yes... another group that feels its your patriotic duty to give the government our money. And to what glorious end should will the government put googles money? The NSA? The 3rd war in Iraq? Propping up yet another 3rd world dictator to keep the price of some commodity down? No thanks.
I am sure that some people are better or more sensitive to this sort of thing than others. Personally, I've been a musician for decades. So Sound is something I've very keyed in on. I can be laying on the couch and know if one of my totally silent cats enters the room. Something furry like that definitely impacts the sound. It's something I've noticed for a long time. I can actually follow a moving object around the room with my hearing.
Now, I should clarify, my house is all 1950s hardwood floors. So a furry animal against a wood floor, sound wise, is like throwing red paint on a white canvas. It's a very obvious affect. A cat moving around a carpeted room might be a lot harder to pick out. But it's all the same affect.
For a more dramatic example of what I'm talking about. Sit in a room with an open door. Then have someone stand in the door way. That should make the effect clear as day to just about anyone. The entire shape of the room changes. They are blocking sounds that you should be hearing from down the hall.
Thats getting fired. That's not prison.
There are similar laws on the books about reporting crimes however... But they are nearly impossible to prosecute because they need to prove you knew what had happened. Which is inside your own head. The only way they can prove that you knew is by your own statements. Which is why you cannot be forced to testify against yourself unless you volunteer and again, why you should never, ever, talk. You don't have to lie, you don't have to tell the truth. Just keep your mouth shut.
First, I agree with almost all of what you said. Never implicate yourself. Ever. Don't lie about it, don't tell the truth about it, don't say anything about it unless compelled to speak by a court (and even then, run every word by your lawyer first). However, before we go all tough-guy with "get a warrant"...
By admitting to copying someone else's code you could be confessing to a real crime that could result in time in prison.
Complete and utter bullshit. Plagiarism does not commit a crime, period. Academic violation, yes. Institutional violation, yes. Intellectual violation, yes. Probably a workplace violation in some cases (though typically only if you create content for your employer intended for public consumption). But criminal violation? No, no, no.
At most, the real author could sue for copyright violation - non-commercial, academic, non-distributed copyright violation. Good luck even finding a lawyer to waste time on that goldmine of a case.
Sorry, it doesn't matter what you think. And I never said it would be a copyright law you broke. You have no idea which laws you could break... none what-so-ever...
The complexity of modern federal criminal law, codified in several thousand sections of the United States Code and the virtually infinite variety of factual circumstances that might trigger an investigation into a possible violation of the law, make it difficult for anyone to know, in advance, just when a particular set of statements might later appear (to a prosecutor) to be relevant to some such investigation.
- Stephen Breyer Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States
Think you're smarter than a Supreme court justice? Do not assume that you know the law better than a prosecutor that's poring over emails after your dean forwarded them on with a note "Hey frank, I hate this kid... screwer him if you can"
You break federal law, all day, every day. It's just a matter of if authorities want to get you... and if you provide them enough evidence to do so.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!
If you're going to cheat then cheat. If you're going to be honest, then be honest. Mixing the two is a very bad idea.
Note that their promise of no leniency to those who don't confess is still fulfilled if they also grant no leniency to those who do.
Wrong... you should never lie... or tell the truth. You shouldn't talk at all. Even honestly and truthfully asserting your innocence can be used against you in court. Obviously, you shouldn't cheat. But weather you do or not should have no impact on what you say to authorities later... which is nothing.
Anyone can do this. You're probably even aware of it if you're married.
You arrive home after work, walk in through the garage and immediately know somethings different but you don't know what it is. You round the corner and your wife has bought a new rug... or cabinet... or something. Do you have ESP? No... the room "sounds" different. How do you know when someones creeping up behind you? Same thing...
I used to deer hunt with my father, and his tree stand was insanely high at over 70ft (he liked to think of himself as a sniper) and you could definitely hear the difference when you were the high in the trees than if you were in my stand which was at a much less terrifying 20ft off the ground.
Never, ever, testify against yourself. Even in the case of a college, it's foolish.
Why am I here professor? Is it because of the assignment? It's all a big misunderstanding. She invited me over to work on the assignment and perhaps I thought too much of it. But she never clearly said "no", so you naturally understand..
What? No, I didn't copy the answer.
More like "Where did I get the answers? Oh, I went to this torrent site and downloaded the course files... see? That's a $100,000 software package? I had no idea. Grand theft? FBI agent you say? I thought that was your secretary... What tape recorder?"
No... people take guns into schools because those people are Crazy.
Stop trying to make political points by citing the actions of the mentally deranged. They are nuts... there is no rationale to their actions. They are impossible to prevent or prepare for. Until we cure mental illness, there will always be crazy people doing crazy things that upset us. Laws only restrict the rational. The irrational will continue with whatever they were doing irrelevant of weather there is a sign or not.
Never, ever, testify against yourself. Even in the case of a college, it's foolish.
If they know you did it, they know you did it. Leniency? What a joke. If they had the evidence, they wouldn't be offering a deal.
What's more likely to happen is that you admit it, and in the same email or further interviews you'll confess to other violations that they'll nail you on. Furthermore, in cheating, you are almost guaranteed to have broken state or federal law. By admitting to copying someone else's code you could be confessing to a real crime that could result in time in prison.
If you doubt this, see the video in my Sig. Never admit to wrong doing to a public official or law enforcement. Assume any email you send will immediately be turned over.
The GNOME foundation invented the word—nay, the letters themselves, carved and finished from wordstone hewn from the deep tunnels of the earth.
s/GNOME/Apple/
s/Apple/Android/
s/Android/Windows/
s/Windows/Palm/
s/Palm/Whirlpool/
s/Whirlpool/Whole Foods/
Clearly, all trademarks should be meaningless and indefensible.
You're trying to be snarky, but I agree with your snark. Name your product after a common object and you should not be able to copyright the name. It's a fairly simple thing to avoid.
More like the complaint about the name went to their lawyers who said "What's open source? Buzz off hippies!"
Then the controversy hit their marketing department... who said "We're going to call this thing Gnome? That's a terrible name! And hippies have money now you dolts!"
Everyone who believes China will uphold their end of the deal, raise your hand.
Thought so.
I wonder where Obama is going to plant those magic beans he just bought.
China has a much better reputation when it comes to trade deals that the US does.
Okay.. I assume that's the reason. The people who believe in encryption will just have to encrypt their mail before it leaves the machine. That's just the way it is. How many times does it need to be said? If you want something done right...
How is it that anybody trusts their providers with the kind of history they have? I mean, can we tawk?
No, this is just firewall management.
The problem is on the emails server side. Failed connections shouldn't default to plain text for Christs sake.
STARTTLS is a way to run encrypted traffic on a plain text port. ISPs are not going to allow that.
You can still send encrypted email, just not over that port.
This is a failure on the email providers side, not the ISPs.
My sons Black (Adopted) and is getting his first computer in a few days for his 7th birthday. It's got Kubuntu, the Steam client for some games, and he's already learning some that will teach him about functions. He absolutely loves computers and is already running circles around Mama.
Tech billionaire in the making!
Then again, I'd have less sympathy for them if avoiding paying taxes wasn't a universal pastime for corporations and individuals alike.
Apple introduced this sort of tax dodge and everyone else followed. Not that anyone else is less guilty, but Apple certainly lead the way.
That said, I have no animosity towards those that avoid taxes given what our government inevitably ends up using the money for.
When you make people 250% gains in 4yrs, you can do whatever the hell you want... they aren't taking their money out.
There is a less pessimistic translation: "Please pass a law so that our competitors are forced to spend money securing their systems, so that we can justify doing so without fear of being out-competed."
less pessimistic = extremely unlikely but supports my world-view so I chose to believe it despite the evidence.
You shouldn't be able to trademark any word that's commonly used in the English language to mean something entirely different than the product in question. Especially one that's likely been in use for hundreds of years like "Gnome"
But I wasn't talking about destruction. Gods wrath can have my house, leave me out of it. Which is more likely to kill me? Earthquake. You can see Hurricanes and tornadoes coming from a long long way off. Tornadoes sound like a freight train approaching. There's no mistaking that. The people that get killed are usually living in trailers or don't have basements. Hurricane? You usually have DAYS of warning. Eathquake? You're just sitting there, reading the paper and BAM! Buildings falling on you. Not cool.
Oh and floods? You have to be an idiot to get hurt in a flood. Trust me, I know a lot of idiots to. I've had plenty of people tell me about the awesome house they are looking at... River front! On a hill side! I just roll my eyes. If you have water on one side of your house and a hill on the other... you're going to get flooded. It's just a matter of time.
Translation: Please pass a law that dictates the minimum effort we are required to put forward so we can barely meet that very low bar and not get sued. As it is, we have to actually pay attention to security and update constantly. If you pass a law, it will be out of date in about 3 months... but hey! At least we can't get sued. And that's all that really matters.
You have no idea how Tor works.
Youtube is your friend.
You'd need a hell of a lot more than the entry level cisco cert to figure out a way to break it.