Supposedly, Morro is based on Forefront Client Security, and onecare has been completely phased out. Considering the poster, I'm surprised that the article didn't say that morro eats babies and killed your dog.
As for Onecare, I had it. It was a great scanner and a firewal. The only reason I got rid of it was because of the onecare circle. in Onecare you had 3 licences. In version 2.5, they developed this Onecare Circle to help you keep track of security on all three copies. and all it would do is scream about this pc being out of date, or scan this pc, or backup this one, or the firewall isn't working on this PC when it was. after two months of that nonsense (since you couldn't shut it offat the server side) I said to hell with this and put avira back on.
MAC: Hello, I'm A Mac PC: And I'm a PC (PC is holding up a chicken statue in one hand and an Egg, in another) MAC: Say, you should see my new picture collection of my trip to Cupertino that I posted on Facebook using IPhoto? They came out great. PC: (stares intently at the chicken and egg.) You don't say. I'd love to but I can't until I figure this out MAC: Figure what out? PC: Well, since Windows 7 doesn't ship with a browser anymore, I can't look at webpages, and since I can't look at webpages anymore I can't get a browser. It's so philosophical. MAC: I see. well, Macs come with Safari, the worlds fastest web browser, so you can browse the internet out of the box. PC: Must be nice. MAC, Well, since you can't look at my page, how would you like to listen to my new MP3 Mix tape I made using Garageband. It sounds awesome. PC: Well..... (Show picture of IMac with the Mac Background)
The best example I can give to this, I saw in the Anime Ex Driver.
For those who know nothing about this Anime, basically, it's about a society that has completely removed the human driver from the road. It works relatively good, except once in a while, the AI for these cars goes nuts and barrels down the road uncontrollably. The government then sends a group of teenage licenced stunt drivers to the scene that uses their driving skills and special weaponery to shoot EM Shilding compound to disable five points of the AI cars navigation system, once this is achieved, the car goes into a safe mode and gently pulls over to the side of the road.
on the other hand, If they designed the cars with a big red button in the Car that said "STOP" that was a hardwired to these five points, it would basicially do the same thing without the cost of special weaponery, stunt drivers with unreal marksman skills, or fast cars.
I could go on about how they had to close the entire city down and worry about people starving when a group of 5 rogue drivers use the cities highway system as their personal autobahn, but thats another story.
They already did. if you do a live search, it redirects to bing, and then changes the Live IE icon. In IE6, there was a bug that was having Bing override our search default but was fixed later.
Not that It really matters. It don't see much of a difference between Bing and Live search other than shopping, medical and travel searches. The catchy name might draw in curious users, but it's probably going to be Cuil all over again.
It's what we use for remediation at the college where I work, and that URL, Particulary the Remediation part, is the same area that Bradford puts their CSA.
I can only say how we use the system, so I can't vouch for cmich or other school networks, but we pretty much use BCM for these purposes.
1) Check for patches on a system. 2) Check for the university supplied Virus scanner and how up to date it is. 3) Send messages to users. Specificially as part of our emergency alert strategy in case of severe weather or Schoolwide Crisis. 4) Locate PC's (Or anything with a MAC address for that matter) if they are lost or stolen and are still being used on our network. 5) Block Rogue DHCP servers, like someone mistakengly plugging in their home router on their LAN side (instead of WAN), or running Internet connection sharing, or a virus that is DHCP Spoofing.
As far as I know, it doesn't do any kind of traffic or system spying of any sort. Its basicially designed to keep non university users (or users with a problem, such as outdated AV) from getting into the network and doing damage by subnetting anything thats not registered at the switch end. The only thing a non-registered user can do is see the remediation page and login, and if they can't login their SOL.
As for the Net itself, although we use a QOS system to control bandwidth usage, we don't track anything other than what traffic is using how much bandwidth and throttle based on demand vs performance. IE if Bittorrent is sucking 80% of our bandwith, we throttle Bittorrent so that other services, (WEB, Email, XBOX, ETC) can get more traffic. My guess is that most schools follow the same principal.
Grab a Compaq PC. Circa 1995-97, with one of their Customized Windows 95 OS'es on it. If it boots up and it has a Compaq Logo instead of a Win95 logo Like this guy's, then you're on the right track.
After you cringe in horror, explain to me again why allowing OEM's to customize the OS to their liking is a great idea.
I'm not saying that OEM's shouldn't be allowed to add software packages, but there is a fine line between useful and performance degrading. If an OEM thinks that they can sell more than the other guys based on the "Added Value" of their craptastic software, then they will do it. Customer experience be dammed.
What needs to happen is a app store like application explorer similar to what you see in Linux and mobile phones. It makes finding, buying, (if it's not free) installing, uninstalling and maintaining software simple and easy, as well as a way to seperate the good apps from the bad. As long as it's well regulated and rules are clearly defined, I don't see how it's hurts competition or users.
I'm positive that it's not a Microsoft or ASUS site. If it is, it's definitly marketed much differently than other sites I've seen.
For one, I didn't see any Microsoft or Asus Logos or links anywhere on the site. MS can't help but slap a Microsoft logo somewhere on their site. Asus is no different. All I see is Windows and EeePC.
Both companies have distinct styles on how they present their advertising campaigns, and this site follows neither.
MS and ASUS would have links everywhere taking you to all of their offerings. There is no links on this site whatsoever.
MS tends to target Linux when it comes to the server side. Although I can see them starting a linux netbook "get the facts" campaign soon, I don't see one anyware on Microsoft's official site. The most I see is press releases touting windows sales on netbooks.
Asus has a Linux investment. Unless MS dropped off a suitcase that has so much money in it the light comming off of it starts to turn the room green, I don't see them badmouthing their own OS.
Actually, even Net Applications reports it as being pretty steady.
A 7% drop of market share over 1 year time is steady? If you mean steady dropping I guess so.
And yet the mess continues. For example, IE8 was originally going to default to the IE7 engine, and you had to opt in to the new "better standards" mode. Only after the EU got ivolved did Microsoft change to default to standards mode (and basically admitted that it was because of the EU antitrust case).
Everybody was up in arms over that situation. Even people within Microsoft thought it was a bad idea. The community at large made that change happen. If anything the EU was just another voice within thousands.
So? Can you show that this is because of anti-competitive behavior by Apple?
Here's the circle. I want to buy online music. All DRM Restricted music online music outside of Itunes goes out of business in two years or less. All Non DRM Restricted Music online stores goes out of business due to RIAA, have no selection or charge a boatload of money per song, so I go to ITunes to get music because it's not going anywhere and has all the music I want. now which MP3 player should I buy? I can't buy an Iriver or a samsung or a Zune because itunes only works with Ipod. So I either buy an Ipod or start burning music to CD all day.
Don't get me wrong, I think Zune's a joke too. MS was much better off with playsforsure since it allowed a choice with mulitple players. I'm just saying that Apple knows how their vendor lock in scheme works and they know how to use it.
If you replaced ipod and itunes with zune and zune marketplace, this site would be covered with people screaming antitrust all day and you know it.
Maybe it has done damange (irrelevant when discussing whether Microsoft is guilty or not), but it most definitely has not done more damage to the competition than IE.
The only company to go under because of IE was Netscape. And Technicially it got bought out by AOL for 4.2 Billion.
There are several companies out there making money from browsers, including the Mozilla Corporation, Access, and Opera Software. There was a browser market before Microsoft started messing up things, and there is one now, which suffers because of Microsoft's actions.
All of that money is being made in the Mobile phone and Settop industry. Honestly, this was one of Opera's smartest moves to ally with Nintendo. I don't see anyone buying browsers for any Windows, Mac, or Linux platforms, and if they are, they are making very little there.
Firefox is an anomaly
Firefox share is the result of solid code coupled with a word of mouth advertising system and a languishing competitor. It also helps when just about every tech publication puts it as the top browser.
Again, IE has been attached to Windows since 95 but it didn't gain market share until IE4. (and it was gaining share before Win98 came out) People were still downloading netscape until something better came around. now that IE Stagnated for almost 5 years with IE6, Firfox came around and started turning heads.
Why didn't they choose it for all these years? IE6 kepts its dominance for several years despite better browsers being out there.
Mozilla wasn't ready, Opera had a niche market at best and Netscape 6 was Basicially AOL Lite with all of it's skinning and links all over the place. firefox 2 was the first real browser to overcome all of the shortcomings of IE and offer a stable expandable codebase to work against.
Didn't do what?
Report to the US antitrust trial. Sun reported, Novell reported, Caldera (SCO) reported. Where was Opera? As soon as the EU starts doing an Antitrust trial, there they are. And don't give me the story that their in Europe, they had an established business branch in the US and could have jumped in the US trial as a reporter no problem.
Umm, Microsoft is still breaking the law today. The complaint was filed last year.
Because they are not complying fully with the original decision. Their documentation is not all there. I said they had to work on that. At least whats out there is better than nothing.
You have fundamentally misunderstood the nature of antitrust law. MS is accused of abusing their monopoly on desktop operating systems to hurt the browser market. They are not accused of having a monopoly on browsers.
By that definition, you could create an antitrust case for MS bundling Notepad with windows. OS'es today do more than just boot and show a prompt.
I might mention the EU has investigated Apple with regard to several antitrust abuses, one where they were proxy for the music industry's cartel and recently for the iPod which they decided did not constitute a monopoly. Apple would be banned from bundling OS X and iTunes only if they had a monopoly on the relevant market for one product. Which were you thinking constituted a monopoly?
The fact that the ITunes store crushes competition comes to mind. Vendor lock in also comes to mind, since you need a IPod to listen to ITunes music. (Although they have DRM Free downloads now so it's not that big of an argument anymore.) Even MS with them "Bundling" URGE in WMP didn't even dent Itunes.
If you would like, I guess I could say that Apple used it's Itunes monopoly to Sell IPods and Macs. That would fit in your monopoly definition. I can probably make a safe bet that ITunes runs better on a mac Vs windows, and it would be improbable to use an IPod without ITunes.
Opera did not sue. They reported the crime. The EU is prosecuting the crime. There was no civil suit involved and Opera asked for no damages, just remedies.
Where were they when MS WAS being investigated in the US for Browser bundling?
Also. this is a first step. Getting a Guilty verdict here gives Opera a stronger case in court to go civil suit, since they can use this case as a precedent.
And right now. IE is still the dominant browser, and is still holding everyone else back
And Again is Bleeding Market Share. As for holding people back, If your talking about Web Devs, IE8 makes great strides in compliency as well as allowing Legacy designs to run. It's still behind standards wise but it's light years ahead it's predecessors.
In fact, antitrust authorities in various countries have actually looked at whether iTunes could be infringing competition law. But Mac OS X is not a dominant platform, unlike Windows. I can't believe people are still making these silly comparisons
But they are not doing anything, and this is not a "silly" Comparasion as you like to call it. ITunes has already taken out multiple competitive services. Hell, Microsoft alone has already lost two fronts (playsforsure and URGE) and are most likely going to lose with Zune as well. It's done more damage to competitive products than even IE did to browsers.
Maybe, maybe not. Browser statistics do lie. Net Applications in particular have been caught manipulating their own stats numerous times. But IE is still dominant. On that, all browser stats agree. But part of the reason IE might be losing users in the first place is that the courts have been used to force Microsoft to open up to competition
What Open Competition? Everything is Free and the only competitive edge anymore is features and performance. I don't see a Firefox icon on a Default Vista or XP install. I also haven't seen an OEM package an alternative browser in their builds. (although they can if they wanted to) But Yet, Firefox share is still rising. The only thing MS did to XP and Vista was make it easier to set a default application for web, media, email, ETC.
If you offer a better product then people will choose it. At the Time when IE was 90%, There was Netscape or IE. Netscape Sucked, so IE became dominant. Now that there are alternatives that offer more features and better performance, and IE sucking, you see IE share dropping.
Opera didn't sue anyone. Opera reported Microsoft's crimes to the EC.
but didn't in the US antitrust trial, when the browser WAS the focus of that trial, and if they did, I never heard about it. I guess they were too busy making Swedish Chef Translators instead of suing.
Google, Mozilla, and a large number of other software manufacturers joined.
Because when you see a competitor down, you kick it. Did you See how fast Nvidia jumped on the Intel antitrust bandwangon with their ION platform as soon as the antitrust ruling came down? Thats what Corporations do.
As for the claim that Chrome has more market share than Opera, even Google doesn't agree there. A while ago, Opera reported having 30 million desktop users. At the same time, Google reported 10 million users for Chrome. And somehow, Net Applications's (yes, the ones you are basing your flawed claim on) stats showed Chrome with a higher market share than Opera. Yes, that's how reliable Net Applications is. And that's just one of many examples of their useless statistics.
Onestat.com if you don't like Net Applications 3 of the 6 stat groups mentions on wikipedia are not counting Chome in their list. AT Internet Institute is reporting Opera higher than Chrome. It also is putting Opera higher than any other stat group at 4% Only 2 of the 6 stat groups put Opera above 1%. only 1 above 2%
If you want to go for a larger sample, 5 of the 6 stat groups put Safari higher than Opera. although Apple has been in the game awile longer and forced download through Itunes updates, (No antitrust there. Nope.) Opera has been around for almost a decade, is available on two of the most popular game consoles today, and still has barely any share.
As for desktop numbers, How does Opera Know? How does Google Know? I suppose they both could b
No it isn't. Microsoft broke the law. It's that simple.
Yes. Years ago. They are atoning for this (although not that well right now, but at least there's some interoperability documentation out there VS 5 years ago). As it stands it's much easier switch to alternatives in XP and Vista then it ever was in the past OS'es. And OEM's can install whatever they want to their system builds.
If this was a case of simple monopoly, why isn't Apple getting sued for bundling Itunes with OSX? It's just as bad a monopoly as IE is.
If a car manufacturer breaks antitrust laws and prevents competition in the radio market, sure. But they didn't.
Ford and GM did exactly that in the 90s when they attached their climate controls directly to the stereos of some of their cars. If you removed the stereos, the heater didn't work anymore. Don't see no monopoly lawsuits there, but I do see aftermarket kits that allow you to add aftermarket stereos. Same thing goes for browsers. The original post still makes sense in this regard.
Nonsense. Antitrust laws are turned on all sorts of companies all the time
Yes. Although Apple has a nack of avoiding judgement it with ITunes for some reason.
So Firefox, Safari and Opera are not better than IE?
Stats don't lie. IE is bleeding market share. Even IE8 isn't keeping users from jumping from other browsers. it wouldn't surprise me if they are below 50 percent by the end of next year.
On another note, Chrome had more market share then Opera after only being available for two months. That has nothing to do with Opera suing MS for antitrust. Nope. Nada. That big bag of MS settlement money is not compelling at all. They're doing it to save the browser market. Yep! They'll just donate that big bag of money to starving children because their so nice like that.
Then why didn't Microsoft fail, considering the low quality of many or most of their products? Windows Me? Windows Vista? MS-DOS?
MS-DOS was the Best OS MS has ever produced. I've seen system uptimes you could measure in decades when it comes to that OS.
Windows ME was garbage. Everybody knew it was garbage. Thats why they used Windows 2000.
Vista works well especially after SP1. I use it at work and I've never had a problem with it. It's a little slower vs XP but then again, Windows 2000 was slower than NT4, which was slower than 3.5, which was slower than NT 3.1 ETC. I can guarantee that the same exact performance scaling is true with just about any OS out there. It's called progress.
Just to be clear, I do use tabs, but I only use them for one reason; I can middle mouse click to generate a tab.
Before tabs were vogue, I constantly used Multiple browsing sessions by right clicking a link and opening the link as a new window. If IE5 or IE6 had the middle click functionality it would have functioned just like tabs except the taskbar itself would be the tab instead of a redundant tab bar in the browser itself.
In the Mac and Unix worlds, tabs make sense since OSX and many Unix window managers do not have a tab like taskbar like windows. In the Windows world, it's a redundant taskbar to group sessions that don't necessarily need to be grouped.
No "JJAbrams Nested Box". You know what I mean. The "Lost" like "OOO! look its a Box! What's in the box! What's in the box! Lets open the box! HEY IT'S ANOTHER BOX!! What's in that box! What's in that box!, ETC.
Although It does have a "Berman Time Paradox". On the other hand, it's a VERY GOOD "Berman Time Paradox".
the fact that people dont use antivirus software. the problem is windows is an OS that tends to get brutalized every week or two by a new virus, and the manufacturer does not appear to care.
You can run the best and most secure OS in the world, and you can patch holes everyday, but in the end you can't patch stupid.
If a person that is not computer savvy is browsing along, and runs into a popup that says "OMG JOO GOT PWNED WIT TEH VIRUZZZ CLICK HERE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!" He's going to click here, download ICLEANTEHVIRUZHONEST.EXE and BAM! VIRUS Infection.
Giving him a different Browser just gives him a different procedure to run ICLEANTEHVIRUZHONEST.EXE
Giving him a Different OS just gives him a different executable file, such as ICLEANTEHVIRUZHONEST.APP or ICLEANTEHVIRUZHONEST.RPM
Telling him to ignore these popups either results in him ignoring a real virus scanner's warning of "ICLEANTEHVIRUZHONEST.EXE is a virus, disinfect or Ignore?" or everything he heard went in one ear and out the other, and runs ICLEANTEHVIRUZHONEST.EXE anyway.
Don't believe that viruses use this method? Go look up Antivirus 360, or Internet Antivirus Pro, or whatever "rogue antivirus of the day" you can find. That's exactly how they infect. It uses Web ads to initiate the dropper site. Is it browser Agnostic, would be trivial to make it OS agnostic, And uses web page popups and standard non-exploiting Javascript to socially engineer you into believing that your system is infected.
As for Virus scanning, it should be integrated in Windows. Unfortunatly, you'll never see it because MS doesn't want another antitrust trial on their hands.
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Discontinue use of Stupid Fun Club if any of the following occurs:
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* Loss of balance or coordination
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If Stupid Fun Club begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head.
Stupid Fun Club may stick to certain types of skin.
Ingredients of Stupid Fun Club include an unknown glowing substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space.
Stupid Fun Club has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is also being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq.
Mobile Browsers Android: 0 iPhone: 0 Nokia/Symbian: 0 Windows Mobile: 0 Blackberry: 0****
*Numbers in parenthesis indicate Successful exploits that fell outside the contest criteria and therefore could not be rewarded. **Exploit Confirmed by MS ***Chrome was impacted by one of the flaws, although exploit was not possible using any current known techniques. ****The Blackberry was attempted and resulted in "Something Interesting", but not an exploit.
Significant and Exciting like "I'm gonna die on this rickety wooden roller-coaster!!" instead of Significant and Exciting like "Wow! I'm in one of the finest automobiles ever conceived!"
AV2009 and AV360 are the same thing. In fact, you could make a strong statement that AV360 is the upgrade to AV2009. Most of the sites that have AV360 have underlying AV2009 code. I've even seen AV2009 sites give me AV360 as the payload dropper and vice versa.
Supposedly, these guys are the guys pushing AV360, hopefully infectious fall for awile, but these guys are just like spammers. I've sure next month they'll be back with Antivirus 720 or something. (There's already an Antivirus 2010 out there) That and the legit AV suites will still fail to block these rogue installers.
Off topic. I've been constanly hearing about Conficker/Downloadup, but I've never honestly seen one infection. I easily see 2-10 AV360/AV2009 infections per day, and half of those times they have a TDSS Rootkit infection. We're even seeing DHCP poisoning as of late from these viruses which seems to be an new way for them to spread. So far, I've haven't heard one Legit AV company talk about either of these infections.
...How F-secure can track down AV360's Virus Inc. but still can't figure out a way from stopping the rogue installers from running on a fully patched F-secure protected PC.
I know it's more technical than this and easy for Virus writers to workaround, but I would think that their DeepGuard system could at least block/warn anything with the name "InstallAVG_(Random 6 digit number).exe from running. That would at least keep 99% of the current AV360/AV2009 infections down for awile until they change their naming scheme.
TDSS is the next Virus I'd love to see die, but thats another story.
Personally, you may see a lot of good servers get trounced by this system.
back in 03, When I ran a CS Friendly Fire server, I had customized adminmod, statsme and hlguard scripts that would detect and punish abuse of the server. (Blatent Team Killing, Anti Cheat detection, ETC) This would result in a lot of 15 minute bans and the like. The server was full to it's 22 man capacity almost constantly for a year and averaged about 10000-20000 connections a month. on top of this, we had a very loyal and one of the most cheat free userbases you could find at the time.
Since most of the scripts were triggered within the first 5-10 minutes, this would give servers like mine a bad looking rating even though I went out of my way to make the playerbase happy. It would especially hurt between 5-12PM where one greifer would come on, get booted by the scripts, and another would take their slot for his chance at a ban.
Now I know a lot of the above scripts are not available in source, but I could see where a customized TF2 server could take a beating in this metric if they have any sort of automatic punishment system in place. Especially if its popular.
No IE, No WMP, Hell, Not Even Notepad or EDLIN! After all, MS uses its windows Marketshare to crush all the other text editing apps. Vi and Emacs can finally have a chance to compete!
Just an OS! No Drivers, no backgrounds, No Nothing! Perfect for your average user that buys all of their software at retail! It will stimulate the economy! Think of all the Possibilities! Web and FTP browsers and calculator apps at retail stores! Solitare games making a comeback for 9.95! Competition running Wild!!
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Supposedly, Morro is based on Forefront Client Security, and onecare has been completely phased out. Considering the poster, I'm surprised that the article didn't say that morro eats babies and killed your dog.
As for Onecare, I had it. It was a great scanner and a firewal. The only reason I got rid of it was because of the onecare circle. in Onecare you had 3 licences. In version 2.5, they developed this Onecare Circle to help you keep track of security on all three copies. and all it would do is scream about this pc being out of date, or scan this pc, or backup this one, or the firewall isn't working on this PC when it was. after two months of that nonsense (since you couldn't shut it offat the server side) I said to hell with this and put avira back on.
MAC: Hello, I'm A Mac
PC: And I'm a PC (PC is holding up a chicken statue in one hand and an Egg, in another)
MAC: Say, you should see my new picture collection of my trip to Cupertino that I posted on Facebook using IPhoto? They came out great.
PC: (stares intently at the chicken and egg.) You don't say. I'd love to but I can't until I figure this out
MAC: Figure what out?
PC: Well, since Windows 7 doesn't ship with a browser anymore, I can't look at webpages, and since I can't look at webpages anymore I can't get a browser. It's so philosophical.
MAC: I see. well, Macs come with Safari, the worlds fastest web browser, so you can browse the internet out of the box.
PC: Must be nice.
MAC, Well, since you can't look at my page, how would you like to listen to my new MP3 Mix tape I made using Garageband. It sounds awesome.
PC: Well.....
(Show picture of IMac with the Mac Background)
Although Quarterly is a start, it should be carried out on a monthly basis or at least have a plan for immediate release if an exploit goes wild.
Acrobat and Flash are some of the most used Apps second to MS products. They should at least be on par with their patching policy.
The best example I can give to this, I saw in the Anime Ex Driver.
For those who know nothing about this Anime, basically, it's about a society that has completely removed the human driver from the road. It works relatively good, except once in a while, the AI for these cars goes nuts and barrels down the road uncontrollably. The government then sends a group of teenage licenced stunt drivers to the scene that uses their driving skills and special weaponery to shoot EM Shilding compound to disable five points of the AI cars navigation system, once this is achieved, the car goes into a safe mode and gently pulls over to the side of the road.
on the other hand, If they designed the cars with a big red button in the Car that said "STOP" that was a hardwired to these five points, it would basicially do the same thing without the cost of special weaponery, stunt drivers with unreal marksman skills, or fast cars.
I could go on about how they had to close the entire city down and worry about people starving when a group of 5 rogue drivers use the cities highway system as their personal autobahn, but thats another story.
They already did. if you do a live search, it redirects to bing, and then changes the Live IE icon. In IE6, there was a bug that was having Bing override our search default but was fixed later.
Not that It really matters. It don't see much of a difference between Bing and Live search other than shopping, medical and travel searches. The catchy name might draw in curious users, but it's probably going to be Cuil all over again.
from the URL, It looks like Bradford Campus Manager.
It's what we use for remediation at the college where I work, and that URL, Particulary the Remediation part, is the same area that Bradford puts their CSA.
I can only say how we use the system, so I can't vouch for cmich or other school networks, but we pretty much use BCM for these purposes.
1) Check for patches on a system.
2) Check for the university supplied Virus scanner and how up to date it is.
3) Send messages to users. Specificially as part of our emergency alert strategy in case of severe weather or Schoolwide Crisis.
4) Locate PC's (Or anything with a MAC address for that matter) if they are lost or stolen and are still being used on our network.
5) Block Rogue DHCP servers, like someone mistakengly plugging in their home router on their LAN side (instead of WAN), or running Internet connection sharing, or a virus that is DHCP Spoofing.
As far as I know, it doesn't do any kind of traffic or system spying of any sort. Its basicially designed to keep non university users (or users with a problem, such as outdated AV) from getting into the network and doing damage by subnetting anything thats not registered at the switch end. The only thing a non-registered user can do is see the remediation page and login, and if they can't login their SOL.
As for the Net itself, although we use a QOS system to control bandwidth usage, we don't track anything other than what traffic is using how much bandwidth and throttle based on demand vs performance. IE if Bittorrent is sucking 80% of our bandwith, we throttle Bittorrent so that other services, (WEB, Email, XBOX, ETC) can get more traffic. My guess is that most schools follow the same principal.
Grab a Compaq PC. Circa 1995-97, with one of their Customized Windows 95 OS'es on it. If it boots up and it has a Compaq Logo instead of a Win95 logo Like this guy's, then you're on the right track.
After you cringe in horror, explain to me again why allowing OEM's to customize the OS to their liking is a great idea.
I'm not saying that OEM's shouldn't be allowed to add software packages, but there is a fine line between useful and performance degrading. If an OEM thinks that they can sell more than the other guys based on the "Added Value" of their craptastic software, then they will do it. Customer experience be dammed.
What needs to happen is a app store like application explorer similar to what you see in Linux and mobile phones. It makes finding, buying, (if it's not free) installing, uninstalling and maintaining software simple and easy, as well as a way to seperate the good apps from the bad. As long as it's well regulated and rules are clearly defined, I don't see how it's hurts competition or users.
I'm positive that it's not a Microsoft or ASUS site. If it is, it's definitly marketed much differently than other sites I've seen.
For one, I didn't see any Microsoft or Asus Logos or links anywhere on the site. MS can't help but slap a Microsoft logo somewhere on their site. Asus is no different. All I see is Windows and EeePC.
Both companies have distinct styles on how they present their advertising campaigns, and this site follows neither.
MS and ASUS would have links everywhere taking you to all of their offerings. There is no links on this site whatsoever.
MS tends to target Linux when it comes to the server side. Although I can see them starting a linux netbook "get the facts" campaign soon, I don't see one anyware on Microsoft's official site. The most I see is press releases touting windows sales on netbooks.
Asus has a Linux investment. Unless MS dropped off a suitcase that has so much money in it the light comming off of it starts to turn the room green, I don't see them badmouthing their own OS.
Actually, even Net Applications reports it as being pretty steady.
A 7% drop of market share over 1 year time is steady? If you mean steady dropping I guess so.
And yet the mess continues. For example, IE8 was originally going to default to the IE7 engine, and you had to opt in to the new "better standards" mode. Only after the EU got ivolved did Microsoft change to default to standards mode (and basically admitted that it was because of the EU antitrust case).
Everybody was up in arms over that situation. Even people within Microsoft thought it was a bad idea. The community at large made that change happen. If anything the EU was just another voice within thousands.
So? Can you show that this is because of anti-competitive behavior by Apple?
Here's the circle. I want to buy online music. All DRM Restricted music online music outside of Itunes goes out of business in two years or less. All Non DRM Restricted Music online stores goes out of business due to RIAA, have no selection or charge a boatload of money per song, so I go to ITunes to get music because it's not going anywhere and has all the music I want. now which MP3 player should I buy? I can't buy an Iriver or a samsung or a Zune because itunes only works with Ipod. So I either buy an Ipod or start burning music to CD all day.
Don't get me wrong, I think Zune's a joke too. MS was much better off with playsforsure since it allowed a choice with mulitple players. I'm just saying that Apple knows how their vendor lock in scheme works and they know how to use it.
If you replaced ipod and itunes with zune and zune marketplace, this site would be covered with people screaming antitrust all day and you know it.
Maybe it has done damange (irrelevant when discussing whether Microsoft is guilty or not), but it most definitely has not done more damage to the competition than IE.
The only company to go under because of IE was Netscape. And Technicially it got bought out by AOL for 4.2 Billion.
There are several companies out there making money from browsers, including the Mozilla Corporation, Access, and Opera Software. There was a browser market before Microsoft started messing up things, and there is one now, which suffers because of Microsoft's actions.
All of that money is being made in the Mobile phone and Settop industry. Honestly, this was one of Opera's smartest moves to ally with Nintendo. I don't see anyone buying browsers for any Windows, Mac, or Linux platforms, and if they are, they are making very little there.
Firefox is an anomaly
Firefox share is the result of solid code coupled with a word of mouth advertising system and a languishing competitor. It also helps when just about every tech publication puts it as the top browser.
Again, IE has been attached to Windows since 95 but it didn't gain market share until IE4. (and it was gaining share before Win98 came out) People were still downloading netscape until something better came around. now that IE Stagnated for almost 5 years with IE6, Firfox came around and started turning heads.
Why didn't they choose it for all these years? IE6 kepts its dominance for several years despite better browsers being out there.
Mozilla wasn't ready, Opera had a niche market at best and Netscape 6 was Basicially AOL Lite with all of it's skinning and links all over the place. firefox 2 was the first real browser to overcome all of the shortcomings of IE and offer a stable expandable codebase to work against.
Didn't do what?
Report to the US antitrust trial. Sun reported, Novell reported, Caldera (SCO) reported. Where was Opera? As soon as the EU starts doing an Antitrust trial, there they are. And don't give me the story that their in Europe, they had an established business branch in the US and could have jumped in the US trial as a reporter no problem.
Again, Opera didn't sue Microsoft.
But they could have. More on this later
We are
Umm, Microsoft is still breaking the law today. The complaint was filed last year.
Because they are not complying fully with the original decision. Their documentation is not all there. I said they had to work on that. At least whats out there is better than nothing.
You have fundamentally misunderstood the nature of antitrust law. MS is accused of abusing their monopoly on desktop operating systems to hurt the browser market. They are not accused of having a monopoly on browsers.
By that definition, you could create an antitrust case for MS bundling Notepad with windows. OS'es today do more than just boot and show a prompt.
I might mention the EU has investigated Apple with regard to several antitrust abuses, one where they were proxy for the music industry's cartel and recently for the iPod which they decided did not constitute a monopoly. Apple would be banned from bundling OS X and iTunes only if they had a monopoly on the relevant market for one product. Which were you thinking constituted a monopoly?
The fact that the ITunes store crushes competition comes to mind. Vendor lock in also comes to mind, since you need a IPod to listen to ITunes music. (Although they have DRM Free downloads now so it's not that big of an argument anymore.) Even MS with them "Bundling" URGE in WMP didn't even dent Itunes.
If you would like, I guess I could say that Apple used it's Itunes monopoly to Sell IPods and Macs. That would fit in your monopoly definition. I can probably make a safe bet that ITunes runs better on a mac Vs windows, and it would be improbable to use an IPod without ITunes.
Opera did not sue. They reported the crime. The EU is prosecuting the crime. There was no civil suit involved and Opera asked for no damages, just remedies.
Where were they when MS WAS being investigated in the US for Browser bundling?
Also. this is a first step. Getting a Guilty verdict here gives Opera a stronger case in court to go civil suit, since they can use this case as a precedent.
And right now. IE is still the dominant browser, and is still holding everyone else back
And Again is Bleeding Market Share. As for holding people back, If your talking about Web Devs, IE8 makes great strides in compliency as well as allowing Legacy designs to run. It's still behind standards wise but it's light years ahead it's predecessors.
In fact, antitrust authorities in various countries have actually looked at whether iTunes could be infringing competition law. But Mac OS X is not a dominant platform, unlike Windows. I can't believe people are still making these silly comparisons
But they are not doing anything, and this is not a "silly" Comparasion as you like to call it. ITunes has already taken out multiple competitive services. Hell, Microsoft alone has already lost two fronts (playsforsure and URGE) and are most likely going to lose with Zune as well. It's done more damage to competitive products than even IE did to browsers.
Maybe, maybe not. Browser statistics do lie. Net Applications in particular have been caught manipulating their own stats numerous times. But IE is still dominant. On that, all browser stats agree. But part of the reason IE might be losing users in the first place is that the courts have been used to force Microsoft to open up to competition
What Open Competition? Everything is Free and the only competitive edge anymore is features and performance. I don't see a Firefox icon on a Default Vista or XP install. I also haven't seen an OEM package an alternative browser in their builds. (although they can if they wanted to) But Yet, Firefox share is still rising. The only thing MS did to XP and Vista was make it easier to set a default application for web, media, email, ETC.
If you offer a better product then people will choose it. At the Time when IE was 90%, There was Netscape or IE. Netscape Sucked, so IE became dominant. Now that there are alternatives that offer more features and better performance, and IE sucking, you see IE share dropping.
Opera didn't sue anyone. Opera reported Microsoft's crimes to the EC.
but didn't in the US antitrust trial, when the browser WAS the focus of that trial, and if they did, I never heard about it. I guess they were too busy making Swedish Chef Translators instead of suing.
Google, Mozilla, and a large number of other software manufacturers joined.
Because when you see a competitor down, you kick it. Did you See how fast Nvidia jumped on the Intel antitrust bandwangon with their ION platform as soon as the antitrust ruling came down? Thats what Corporations do.
As for the claim that Chrome has more market share than Opera, even Google doesn't agree there. A while ago, Opera reported having 30 million desktop users. At the same time, Google reported 10 million users for Chrome. And somehow, Net Applications's (yes, the ones you are basing your flawed claim on) stats showed Chrome with a higher market share than Opera. Yes, that's how reliable Net Applications is. And that's just one of many examples of their useless statistics.
Onestat.com if you don't like Net Applications
3 of the 6 stat groups mentions on wikipedia are not counting Chome in their list. AT Internet Institute is reporting Opera higher than Chrome. It also is putting Opera higher than any other stat group at 4% Only 2 of the 6 stat groups put Opera above 1%. only 1 above 2%
If you want to go for a larger sample, 5 of the 6 stat groups put Safari higher than Opera. although Apple has been in the game awile longer and forced download through Itunes updates, (No antitrust there. Nope.) Opera has been around for almost a decade, is available on two of the most popular game consoles today, and still has barely any share.
As for desktop numbers, How does Opera Know? How does Google Know? I suppose they both could b
No it isn't. Microsoft broke the law. It's that simple.
Yes. Years ago. They are atoning for this (although not that well right now, but at least there's some interoperability documentation out there VS 5 years ago). As it stands it's much easier switch to alternatives in XP and Vista then it ever was in the past OS'es. And OEM's can install whatever they want to their system builds.
If this was a case of simple monopoly, why isn't Apple getting sued for bundling Itunes with OSX? It's just as bad a monopoly as IE is.
If a car manufacturer breaks antitrust laws and prevents competition in the radio market, sure. But they didn't.
Ford and GM did exactly that in the 90s when they attached their climate controls directly to the stereos of some of their cars. If you removed the stereos, the heater didn't work anymore. Don't see no monopoly lawsuits there, but I do see aftermarket kits that allow you to add aftermarket stereos. Same thing goes for browsers. The original post still makes sense in this regard.
Nonsense. Antitrust laws are turned on all sorts of companies all the time
Yes. Although Apple has a nack of avoiding judgement it with ITunes for some reason.
So Firefox, Safari and Opera are not better than IE?
Stats don't lie. IE is bleeding market share. Even IE8 isn't keeping users from jumping from other browsers. it wouldn't surprise me if they are below 50 percent by the end of next year.
On another note, Chrome had more market share then Opera after only being available for two months. That has nothing to do with Opera suing MS for antitrust. Nope. Nada. That big bag of MS settlement money is not compelling at all. They're doing it to save the browser market. Yep! They'll just donate that big bag of money to starving children because their so nice like that.
Then why didn't Microsoft fail, considering the low quality of many or most of their products? Windows Me? Windows Vista? MS-DOS?
MS-DOS was the Best OS MS has ever produced. I've seen system uptimes you could measure in decades when it comes to that OS.
Windows ME was garbage. Everybody knew it was garbage. Thats why they used Windows 2000.
Vista works well especially after SP1. I use it at work and I've never had a problem with it. It's a little slower vs XP but then again, Windows 2000 was slower than NT4, which was slower than 3.5, which was slower than NT 3.1 ETC. I can guarantee that the same exact performance scaling is true with just about any OS out there. It's called progress.
Just to be clear, I do use tabs, but I only use them for one reason; I can middle mouse click to generate a tab.
Before tabs were vogue, I constantly used Multiple browsing sessions by right clicking a link and opening the link as a new window. If IE5 or IE6 had the middle click functionality it would have functioned just like tabs except the taskbar itself would be the tab instead of a redundant tab bar in the browser itself.
In the Mac and Unix worlds, tabs make sense since OSX and many Unix window managers do not have a tab like taskbar like windows. In the Windows world, it's a redundant taskbar to group sessions that don't necessarily need to be grouped.
Personally, I thought my $7 was well spent just to hear Scotty basically say "I made Admiral Archer's Beagle disappear"
No "JJAbrams Nested Box". You know what I mean. The "Lost" like "OOO! look its a Box! What's in the box! What's in the box! Lets open the box! HEY IT'S ANOTHER BOX!! What's in that box! What's in that box!, ETC.
Although It does have a "Berman Time Paradox". On the other hand, it's a VERY GOOD "Berman Time Paradox".
the fact that people dont use antivirus software. the problem is windows is an OS that tends to get brutalized every week or two by a new virus, and the manufacturer does not appear to care.
You can run the best and most secure OS in the world, and you can patch holes everyday, but in the end you can't patch stupid.
If a person that is not computer savvy is browsing along, and runs into a popup that says "OMG JOO GOT PWNED WIT TEH VIRUZZZ CLICK HERE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!" He's going to click here, download ICLEANTEHVIRUZHONEST.EXE and BAM! VIRUS Infection.
Giving him a different Browser just gives him a different procedure to run ICLEANTEHVIRUZHONEST.EXE
Giving him a Different OS just gives him a different executable file, such as ICLEANTEHVIRUZHONEST.APP or ICLEANTEHVIRUZHONEST.RPM
Telling him to ignore these popups either results in him ignoring a real virus scanner's warning of "ICLEANTEHVIRUZHONEST.EXE is a virus, disinfect or Ignore?" or everything he heard went in one ear and out the other, and runs ICLEANTEHVIRUZHONEST.EXE anyway.
Don't believe that viruses use this method? Go look up Antivirus 360, or Internet Antivirus Pro, or whatever "rogue antivirus of the day" you can find. That's exactly how they infect. It uses Web ads to initiate the dropper site. Is it browser Agnostic, would be trivial to make it OS agnostic, And uses web page popups and standard non-exploiting Javascript to socially engineer you into believing that your system is infected.
As for Virus scanning, it should be integrated in Windows. Unfortunatly, you'll never see it because MS doesn't want another antitrust trial on their hands.
* Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Stupid Fun Club.
* Caution: Stupid Fun Club may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds.
* Stupid Fun Club Contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at.
* Do not use Stupid Fun Club on concrete.
Discontinue use of Stupid Fun Club if any of the following occurs:
* Itching
* Vertigo
* Dizziness
* Tingling in extremities
* Loss of balance or coordination
* Slurred speech
* Temporary blindness
* Profuse sweating
* Heart palpitations
If Stupid Fun Club begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head.
Stupid Fun Club may stick to certain types of skin.
Ingredients of Stupid Fun Club include an unknown glowing substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space.
Stupid Fun Club has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is also being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq.
Do not taunt Stupid Fun Club.
As long as this funding gives me a more interesting Storm Chasers Season, then I'm sold.
Although I wish the show would focus a little more on the science rather than which team member this week is pissed off at Dr. Wurman.
Browsers
Chrome: 0***
IE8: 1**
Firefox: 1(1)*
Safari: 2(1)*
Mobile Browsers
Android: 0
iPhone: 0
Nokia/Symbian: 0
Windows Mobile: 0
Blackberry: 0****
*Numbers in parenthesis indicate Successful exploits that fell outside the contest criteria and therefore could not be rewarded.
**Exploit Confirmed by MS
***Chrome was impacted by one of the flaws, although exploit was not possible using any current known techniques.
****The Blackberry was attempted and resulted in "Something Interesting", but not an exploit.
Hmm. I was thinking the same way.
Significant and Exciting like "I'm gonna die on this rickety wooden roller-coaster!!" instead of Significant and Exciting like "Wow! I'm in one of the finest automobiles ever conceived!"
AV2009 and AV360 are the same thing. In fact, you could make a strong statement that AV360 is the upgrade to AV2009. Most of the sites that have AV360 have underlying AV2009 code. I've even seen AV2009 sites give me AV360 as the payload dropper and vice versa.
Supposedly, these guys are the guys pushing AV360, hopefully infectious fall for awile, but these guys are just like spammers. I've sure next month they'll be back with Antivirus 720 or something. (There's already an Antivirus 2010 out there) That and the legit AV suites will still fail to block these rogue installers.
Off topic. I've been constanly hearing about Conficker/Downloadup, but I've never honestly seen one infection. I easily see 2-10 AV360/AV2009 infections per day, and half of those times they have a TDSS Rootkit infection. We're even seeing DHCP poisoning as of late from these viruses which seems to be an new way for them to spread. So far, I've haven't heard one Legit AV company talk about either of these infections.
...How F-secure can track down AV360's Virus Inc. but still can't figure out a way from stopping the rogue installers from running on a fully patched F-secure protected PC.
I know it's more technical than this and easy for Virus writers to workaround, but I would think that their DeepGuard system could at least block/warn anything with the name "InstallAVG_(Random 6 digit number).exe from running. That would at least keep 99% of the current AV360/AV2009 infections down for awile until they change their naming scheme.
TDSS is the next Virus I'd love to see die, but thats another story.
Browsers
Chrome: 0
IE8: 1
Firefox: 1(1)*
Safari: 2(1)*
Mobile Browsers
Blackberry: 0
Android: 0
iPhone: 0
Nokia/Symbian: 0
Windows Mobile: 0
*Numbers in parenthesis indicate Successful exploits that fell outside the contest criteria and therefore could not be rewarded.
Personally, you may see a lot of good servers get trounced by this system.
back in 03, When I ran a CS Friendly Fire server, I had customized adminmod, statsme and hlguard scripts that would detect and punish abuse of the server. (Blatent Team Killing, Anti Cheat detection, ETC) This would result in a lot of 15 minute bans and the like. The server was full to it's 22 man capacity almost constantly for a year and averaged about 10000-20000 connections a month. on top of this, we had a very loyal and one of the most cheat free userbases you could find at the time.
Since most of the scripts were triggered within the first 5-10 minutes, this would give servers like mine a bad looking rating even though I went out of my way to make the playerbase happy. It would especially hurt between 5-12PM where one greifer would come on, get booted by the scripts, and another would take their slot for his chance at a ban.
Now I know a lot of the above scripts are not available in source, but I could see where a customized TF2 server could take a beating in this metric if they have any sort of automatic punishment system in place. Especially if its popular.
Microsoft, The EU has sapoken! give them what they want!
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/sa/benefits/fundamentals.mspx
No IE, No WMP, Hell, Not Even Notepad or EDLIN! After all, MS uses its windows Marketshare to crush all the other text editing apps. Vi and Emacs can finally have a chance to compete!
Just an OS! No Drivers, no backgrounds, No Nothing! Perfect for your average user that buys all of their software at retail! It will stimulate the economy! Think of all the Possibilities! Web and FTP browsers and calculator apps at retail stores! Solitare games making a comeback for 9.95! Competition running Wild!!