There will be inevitable arguments about "but what constitutes kiddie porn" and "who decides what is moral". The bottom line is (and as mandatory notifiers, we get taught the same thing): if you're not sure, report it. If it's deemed to be kiddie porn, then you've done a good thing. If it isn't then no harm done.
You live in a fantasy world. "No harm done" - just imagine to read "[your name] is currently under investigation for child porn" in your local paper. In the real world, once the cops are onto it, there is tremendous harm already done, regardless if you are guilty or not. Not to mention the tendency of police everywhere to construct guilt if they cant find it, once they have invested a certain amount of time and resources into a case.
The truth is, such a note wil almost certainly destroy a life. Now go guess how many of the reported (and subsequently destroyed) people are actually guilty of anything.
The criminal must get his hands at those data first. In a place with strong privacy laws he will run into walls and walls and walls. Whenevere he wants to move someone is citing "privacy" and refusing hist requests. And, nobody will have that data in the first ölace, since they all delete every piece of data they don't have a demonstrable need for.
Still works for me. Perhaps your browser has been hijacked.
Perhaps. That would have to be a truly ingenious hijack, though - since it only applied to this exact subthread, only on slashdot, and only to the links in the text, not those from./ or even those from your.sig. Marvelous. And it's the first hijack I'm aware of that works with Mozilla 1.7.5..
Oh, and that subthread-on-slashdot-and-only-your-links hijack now right now doesnt go to a sex site any more but - after some redirects - to the front page of web1000.com, containing a stern warning about child porn reported to law enforcement.
But wait - that hijack is even more ingenious than you thought! It also has infected trusty old wget on my trusty old BSD box (boy, do I want to hire that hijack programmer)
Unfortunately I failed to make this kind of precise records of the situation a few hours ago. So I can't demonstrate exactly what popped up those (German, btw - apparently IP address targeting works) sex sites on my screen.
OTOH, you seem to be one of the trolls. I probably HBT. So, yeah, have a nice day, too.
Oh well. All links (except those in the sigs of the perpetrators) in this subthread lead to porn sites (usually through a combination of redirects and javascript). even the waybackmaschine page has js embedded to this effect.
There's no simple solution to it, other than abolish technology.
I'm baffled by such a stupid and clueless statement. You seem brainwashed by the marketing industry.
Of course there is. Strong privacy laws with teeth, essentially preventing companies like choicepoint to amass such heaps of data in the first place (and thereby ruining their business). Have guiding principles like data avoidance and individual autonomy of data.
Write a Privacy Law with no concern for business marketing interests. Just ignore their whining, they will go away after bankruptcy anyway.
ISO standardization is all nice and good... but can a reasonable person please explain to me why this stuff would be also submitted to a US domestical eletcrical engineer's professional organization (the Instute of Electrical and Electronical Engineers inc.) ? Since when is the ieee more relevant than the professional organizations in some hundred other countries ?
And, while we are at that, is that true at all ? I don't see any mention of ieee in the referenced article
Taxation is the ultimate symbol of beeing governed. I think people should only be answereable to a set of rules they have democratic control over.
Two of those guys lived and worked in Germany. If what they did was a crime in Germany, they should have been tried here. If not, they should not have been tried at all.
Unfortunately we see more and more attempts of the US of A to extend the reach of their laws far beyond their borders. Call it legal imperialism. Most of that isn't even criminal law. For instance I work for a Geramn subsidiary of a british company. Now, out of the blue, we sudddenly have to conform to all kinds of stupid and twisted rules made up by some US regulatory body.
I could go on. For every idiot in the world trying to sue somebody there apparently is a goofy judge in the US of A willing to take up his case.
At some point the world will have to make it loud and clear to the US of A that no, we are not governed by you, and no, your rules and your laws don't apply here.
That whole thing stinks. While US Company Rambus gets off the hook with all its shenanigans (which cost the industry and consumers billions) apparently people working in Germany now get made an example of.
Disgusting. And, while we are at it - what happend to "no taxation without representation" ? What do you bet US company Micron will not get harmed in this at all, while all the others will take hefty fines ?
New York cops alone seem to be pretty expert at this sport. Just go reading the papers, they get one or two a year. There was the kid who went to go to the next builing across the roof. Happened to meet officer in stairs to roof: Officer scared, kid dead.
There was the african immigrant who happened to open his own appartment door with his own keys. Four civilian officers managed to pump a shitload of bullets into him. Turns out later, hes unarmed and not the guy they were looking for, anyway.
If you go away fro m NY, there was the lady cop who killed an already handcuffed and subdued kuy in a police car with a point black shot beacuse he was maklinmg too much noise (she later claimed she only wanted to use her stun gun on him)
There were those four courages cops who were called by the friends of a black teenage girl whose car had broken down in a bad neighbourhood. She locked herself into her car, put a gun she had on her lap and waited for help. Trouble is, she fell asleep. Cops come, surround her locked car, wake her up and empty all ther magaziones into her.
Etc Etc...
The real bad thing isnt even that things like that happen. Given enough people and time, anything will happen. The bad thing abvout the US is that all those cops involved walked away free afterwards. No crimninal negligence, first or second degree murder, manslaughter, assault or whatever. They didn't even get fired by the police.
The US of A mostly condones and suppports the occasional killing of a black person.
yes, now every crime partnership is called conspiracy
AFA my limited understanding of the US system goes, that was always the case. The conspiracy clause allows them to charge each individual for all acts all conspirators commited.
This is an appropriate means to prosecute crimes done by well organized groups. Nothing new here.
Thanks for the informative review. Sounds like an interesting book/package.
Yadda Yadda Yadda. He reviewed his freggin boss' book in his freggin' boss web site and wrote a review that makes it look "like an interesting book/package" ??
Disgusting. BTW, Timothy, that strange smell you percieve comes from that brown mass on and around your nose. I'm told its easy to wash away with water and soap, though - give it a tray.
You have to leave this entire "if I don't sign a piece of paper, then there's no contract" attitude behind, because that's just not right.
You have to leave this entire "Its written there, so it must be valid" attitude behind, because that's just not right.
You know, there are actually places in the world where contracts are routinely declared unenforceable because they violate this or that law. In the country I live we even have a law about what retrailers may and may not write into their terms anbd conditions. Retailer's T&C are frequently declared illegal and void, and some are even fined.
Someone else mentioned the period for online and mail order. During the first week, you can without giving any reason, cancel any and all online, mail order and door-to-door contract. Then it's just gone 'poof'.
Just because you say otherwise doesn't make it so. Or true, or whatever
Who the hell are the whiners complaining that you're account was terminnated because they circumvented copy protection and/or stole the product? Are these people INSANE? Who on earth thinks it's okay to steal something, have someone take it back, and then feel like you've been cheated?
You - and a gazillion of others here - build a convenient straw man. That thing is not about piracy. The problem is about forfeiture of legally bought and paid for property.
Read the valve FAQs. You "lose" games bought via steam when Valve feels like it. Valve is accuser, judge and executioner in one. There is no appeal. Nor legal rights. Nor due process. There's just "poof" and your games collection you assembled maybe over several years is gone.
Don't think just "Half life 2". Think about the steam concept a few years from now. Would you trust Valve to never err ? Never go down that slippery slope from treating everyone fair to just doing whats best for their quarterly bottom line ?
Now think for a while about that. Anyone remember those diablo 2 fiascos ? When people were removed from Battlenet and their cd keys banned for simple "violations" like having maphack installed while questing along perfectly happy on their own ?
Or when people and thier cd keys were banned because some frind whose account they once played committed some days or weeks later ?
Let me put it simple: I buy all my games. I've done so for many years now, and I buy quite some. And when I buy something I own that. I certainly will not permit anyone to destroy my property on his own whim. So, when HL 7 comes out, and my cd key leaks beacuse my pc was hacked, I will cetrainly permit no one to take my whole games collection away.
So when Valve tries to force such condition on me I will take my business elsewhere. Thanks, I could live woithout HL, and I can certainly live without Steam-only games. If Valve wants to establish steam as a distrubution way for its games, they will have to offer me - their customer - some assurance that Im not ripped off. Right now I don't see that - just to the contrary, right now they do their best to make painfully clear that a steam-only customer is fucked by default.
So, bye bye Steam. Nice try. As they say in marketing, you cant't fool all people all the time.
If you really need an database expert, you should probably pay him 60 grand or more. And if some school kid can run your funny little databases, you don't need a database specialist anyway.
you are wrong. if your neighbour uses montsanto seeds, and montsanto can prove some spillover, you are liable for payment as well. just ask the canadian guy they successfully sued for hundreds of thousands for that specific reason.
You seem to be a little clueless. How is the farmer supposed to tell the difference ? Montsanto recently established the principle that even if you never bought from them you are liable to pay them. They bankrupted a Canadian farmer whose seed was spoiled by blown in montsanto traces. when he used his own seed, they sued him all the way through the court sysytem - and won.
seed is not software. life grows, often out of human control.
I Think you are wrong here. In the 19th and early 20th Century people used to speak of the "old" and the "new" World - Old implying Europe and Russia while new implies the American Continent.
In contrast to these terms the "Third World" was coined to describe those less developped countries that used to be just colonies before.
So Argentina, for instance, is certainly not Third World in any sense.
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The truth is, such a note wil almost certainly destroy a life. Now go guess how many of the reported (and subsequently destroyed) people are actually guilty of anything.
The criminal must get his hands at those data first. In a place with strong privacy laws he will run into walls and walls and walls. Whenevere he wants to move someone is citing "privacy" and refusing hist requests. And, nobody will have that data in the first ölace, since they all delete every piece of data they don't have a demonstrable need for.
Oh, and that subthread-on-slashdot-and-only-your-links hijack now right now doesnt go to a sex site any more but - after some redirects - to the front page of web1000.com, containing a stern warning about child porn reported to law enforcement.
But wait - that hijack is even more ingenious than you thought! It also has infected trusty old wget on my trusty old BSD box (boy, do I want to hire that hijack programmer)
Unfortunately I failed to make this kind of precise records of the situation a few hours ago. So I can't demonstrate exactly what popped up those (German, btw - apparently IP address targeting works) sex sites on my screen.
OTOH, you seem to be one of the trolls. I probably HBT. So, yeah, have a nice day, too.
Oh well. All links (except those in the sigs of the perpetrators) in this subthread lead to porn sites (usually through a combination of redirects and javascript). even the waybackmaschine page has js embedded to this effect.
stupid trolls.
Of course there is. Strong privacy laws with teeth, essentially preventing companies like choicepoint to amass such heaps of data in the first place (and thereby ruining their business). Have guiding principles like data avoidance and individual autonomy of data.
Write a Privacy Law with no concern for business marketing interests. Just ignore their whining, they will go away after bankruptcy anyway.
ISO standardization is all nice and good ... but can a reasonable person please explain to me why this stuff would be also submitted to a US domestical eletcrical engineer's professional organization (the Instute of Electrical and Electronical Engineers inc.) ? Since when is the ieee more relevant than the professional organizations in some hundred other countries ?
And, while we are at that, is that true at all ? I don't see any mention of ieee in the referenced article
Taxation is the ultimate symbol of beeing governed. I think people should only be answereable to a set of rules they have democratic control over.
Two of those guys lived and worked in Germany. If what they did was a crime in Germany, they should have been tried here. If not, they should not have been tried at all.
Unfortunately we see more and more attempts of the US of A to extend the reach of their laws far beyond their borders. Call it legal imperialism. Most of that isn't even criminal law. For instance I work for a Geramn subsidiary of a british company. Now, out of the blue, we sudddenly have to conform to all kinds of stupid and twisted rules made up by some US regulatory body.
I could go on. For every idiot in the world trying to sue somebody there apparently is a goofy judge in the US of A willing to take up his case.
At some point the world will have to make it loud and clear to the US of A that no, we are not governed by you, and no, your rules and your laws don't apply here.
That whole thing stinks. While US Company Rambus gets off the hook with all its shenanigans (which cost the industry and consumers billions) apparently people working in Germany now get made an example of.
Disgusting. And, while we are at it - what happend to "no taxation without representation" ? What do you bet US company Micron will not get harmed in this at all, while all the others will take hefty fines ?
New York cops alone seem to be pretty expert at this sport. Just go reading the papers, they get one or two a year. There was the kid who went to go to the next builing across the roof. Happened to meet officer in stairs to roof: Officer scared, kid dead.
There was the african immigrant who happened to open his own appartment door with his own keys. Four civilian officers managed to pump a shitload of bullets into him. Turns out later, hes unarmed and not the guy they were looking for, anyway.
If you go away fro m NY, there was the lady cop who killed an already handcuffed and subdued kuy in a police car with a point black shot beacuse he was maklinmg too much noise (she later claimed she only wanted to use her stun gun on him)
There were those four courages cops who were called by the friends of a black teenage girl whose car had broken down in a bad neighbourhood. She locked herself into her car, put a gun she had on her lap and waited for help. Trouble is, she fell asleep. Cops come, surround her locked car, wake her up and empty all ther magaziones into her.
Etc Etc...
The real bad thing isnt even that things like that happen. Given enough people and time, anything will happen. The bad thing abvout the US is that all those cops involved walked away free afterwards. No crimninal negligence, first or second degree murder, manslaughter, assault or whatever. They didn't even get fired by the police.
The US of A mostly condones and suppports the occasional killing of a black person.
This is an appropriate means to prosecute crimes done by well organized groups. Nothing new here.
and rightly so !
Disgusting. BTW, Timothy, that strange smell you percieve comes from that brown mass on and around your nose. I'm told its easy to wash away with water and soap, though - give it a tray.
You know, there are actually places in the world where contracts are routinely declared unenforceable because they violate this or that law. In the country I live we even have a law about what retrailers may and may not write into their terms anbd conditions. Retailer's T&C are frequently declared illegal and void, and some are even fined.
Someone else mentioned the period for online and mail order. During the first week, you can without giving any reason, cancel any and all online, mail order and door-to-door contract. Then it's just gone 'poof'.
Just because you say otherwise doesn't make it so. Or true, or whatever
Read the valve FAQs. You "lose" games bought via steam when Valve feels like it. Valve is accuser, judge and executioner in one. There is no appeal. Nor legal rights. Nor due process. There's just "poof" and your games collection you assembled maybe over several years is gone.
Don't think just "Half life 2". Think about the steam concept a few years from now. Would you trust Valve to never err ? Never go down that slippery slope from treating everyone fair to just doing whats best for their quarterly bottom line ?
Now think for a while about that. Anyone remember those diablo 2 fiascos ? When people were removed from Battlenet and their cd keys banned for simple "violations" like having maphack installed while questing along perfectly happy on their own ?
Or when people and thier cd keys were banned because some frind whose account they once played committed some days or weeks later ?
Let me put it simple: I buy all my games. I've done so for many years now, and I buy quite some. And when I buy something I own that. I certainly will not permit anyone to destroy my property on his own whim. So, when HL 7 comes out, and my cd key leaks beacuse my pc was hacked, I will cetrainly permit no one to take my whole games collection away.
So when Valve tries to force such condition on me I will take my business elsewhere. Thanks, I could live woithout HL, and I can certainly live without Steam-only games. If Valve wants to establish steam as a distrubution way for its games, they will have to offer me - their customer - some assurance that Im not ripped off. Right now I don't see that - just to the contrary, right now they do their best to make painfully clear that a steam-only customer is fucked by default.
So, bye bye Steam. Nice try. As they say in marketing, you cant't fool all people all the time.
Pfft.
If you really need an database expert, you should probably pay him 60 grand or more. And if some school kid can run your funny little databases, you don't need a database specialist anyway.
just ask this guy
you are wrong. if your neighbour uses montsanto seeds, and montsanto can prove some spillover, you are liable for payment as well. just ask the canadian guy they successfully sued for hundreds of thousands for that specific reason.
gene patents are pure evil. resist them.
You seem to be a little clueless. How is the farmer supposed to tell the difference ? Montsanto recently established the principle that even if you never bought from them you are liable to pay them. They bankrupted a Canadian farmer whose seed was spoiled by blown in montsanto traces. when he used his own seed, they sued him all the way through the court sysytem - and won.
seed is not software. life grows, often out of human control.
all URLs slashdotted already
don't peopole never learn a thing ? and they xcall themselves a security company.
Right now they are sadly lacking.
I Think you are wrong here. In the 19th and early 20th Century people used to speak of the "old" and the "new" World - Old implying Europe and Russia while new implies the American Continent.
In contrast to these terms the "Third World" was coined to describe those less developped countries that used to be just colonies before.
So Argentina, for instance, is certainly not Third World in any sense.
Malkin ? That sorry excuse for an Ann Coulter Wannabe right wing foaming at the mouth lunatic ?
You entertain strange tastes, man....
Yep! Wonkette's definitely the place to go. Nothing beats a good joke about assfucking between consenting politicians :-)
Nah, seriously, I like the place. Though she focuses on Washington gossip, that is a cute perspective at Washington politics.