Start a DOS window, go to the game CD then execute
setup.exe -lgntforce
That will force the installation on an NT/2K system. Trust me, it works. (I have Thief Gold, Thief 2 and System Shock 2 installed on this Win2K game box:))
The Thief series has by far been the most engaging exercise in 1st person gaming to date. I assume that you have played Thievery?
I really enjoyed Thievery, even with my sub-standard machine and the subsequent gameplay, that's the Unreal engine making me face the fact that I'm a few years behind the times:) If Thief III is as weak as others in this thread suggest then I still won't mind playing Thief 2 and its fan missions.
When playing the earlier Thief series I frankly didn't care that the NPC's lips didn't move, etc, during game play. It was all atmosphere and thinking. If Thief III turns out to be a game needing a quad 4.8 GHz PC with an nVidia 8,800 card then I'll be mighty upset.
Oh, for all you Looking Glass Studios fans.. may I heartily suggest System Shock 2? (System Shock was good too, but SS2 was scary as hell)
Not to sound harsh, but buying hardware before your target software is released sounds silly. If you wait until the game is actually on shelves then you have the added benefit of buying whatever hardware you would have bought months earlier for less. Perhaps even buying better hardware for what you would have paid for the earlier stuff.
I'm waiting for Doom 3 and Thief 3 before I spend the loot.:)
Hmm.. for my "home theatre PC" I run video through coax to my TV, run digital audio through coax to my Dolby Digital receiver, and use an "ATI Remote Bob" RF remote control (made by Saphire).
Any video is full screen and in excellent quality, the remote control (being RF) means it's not line-of-sight. In fact my computer room is ~5 M away behind me. The coax runs over the ceiling tiles in my basement. If I tossed you the remote control you'd likely think it was a DVD player until I you asked about the "ATI" logo on the remote.
The more I think of this, the more I'm enraged by it. Why?
Imagine that the net's email system is shaped like an hourglass. The top bulb is the sender of email, the bottom is the recipient. That pinched spot in the middle is where a handful of email firms (MS, Yahoo, et al) take a "micropayment" for every mail traversing their network.
They support it because they see it as a long term "User Pay" system. Microsoft has for years wanted to get into this type of system. It's plain fucking bad for the net! DO NOT SUPPORT THIS
How true. In my mind the Wikipedia is a collection of generally accepted truths. Much of it is researched, true, but you still are at the whim of majority rule when editting. They could use a mod system like/.
This is just business as usual for Microsoft. Fines are a blip
on the bottom line for a particular quarter. The MS war chest is
huge, diverting a small percentage of revenue to the chest allows
them to pay fines with money they took from you illegally in the
first place.
Better idea for the governments: take the money
then spend it on promoting open source and non-monopolistic software
within your own countries.
I'm a typical guy and hate being on the phone longer than 3
minutes, but I try. So I was thinking - I like games, she likes to
talk, why not combine the two?
Not knowing the full
situation I have to ask: Have you asked her if she'd like to be in an
online game for longer than 3 minutes? If she's like many (most?) women
she would want to have your full attention during a conversation (the 4
other/.'ers that have been with a woman will back me up on this:))
It sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too; make sure
this is what she wants before you send her all sorts of geek gear. She
may just twist your intentions into thinking you're pushing her away.
well the best thing you could do is to not buy items made in china.
of course thats just a good idea anyways
Yup, you're supporting virtual slave labour when you buy Chinese.FYI: WalMart single-handedly accounts for nearly 10% of China's exports to the U.S. Read the labels..
I know I'm replying to a troll but... You can hardly call it "stealing" when the code is being used within the scope of the license as drafted. The BSD license specifically allows the use of code in a case like this with no strings about having to give back. Apple, in fact, has given back a lot to the community when they didn't need to.
Maybe jaded against the particular hardware you work with. We have failures among our ~300 PCs every so often, hard disks mainly. The Sun, SGI and (sole) HP machine are damn tanks. When Sol goes red giant in 3 billion years, there will be 4 SGI Origins floating around in space wondering where users went.
Don't be led astray by things you don't need.
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What can be done to make manufacturers get their heads into
the real world?
Like most businesses, they listen to only
one thing: their bottom line. If you don't need a camera on your
phone (and, frankly, who does?) then don't spend the extra few bucks
on it. Make sure you tell the person why. There will certainly be
some trickle effect of what is said, whether to management, at trade
shows or in the media.
Unfortunately you have the
KeepingUpWithTheJoneses factor to deal with: Jones(A) gets a new
phone with games. Not to be outdone, Jones(B) gets a phone with games
and a camera. Jones(C) gets a phone with games and a
higher-resolution camera.. Repeat ad infinitum.
This isn't intended soley as potshots against camera phones but
against the "Faster, Smaller, Better" upgrade cycle that these
manufacturers impose on the consumers. Remember that every dollar you
spend is after-tax money. Now think about how much that shiny new
widget will really cost before you walk to the cash register.
You need the money more than they do.
Yeah, it's nice to (not) see. I would hope the editors voice their opinions as ACs or with accounts so long as they are at the mercy of the same moderators we all are. Contributing is honourable, even the goatse.cx links.:)
At a minimum, electronic voting machines need to print out a paper receipt.
(NB: I'm in.CA) The electronic voting machines used here during our last civic election took our paper ballot, pancil-marked "X" beside our choice of candidates, and read it in. The ballot was a paper backup and any voter is welcome to stay around to watch a manual tabulation if need be. Tech has been my only job for ~20 years but I'd never trust it to decide on politicians. There is too great a chance of human error or subterfuge.
Frankly it was the price that got me. ~US$7.00 to watch a time-bombed movie?!
The key (in Disney's eyes) was their trademarks hauling in a few more bucks before being rendered useless. Hell, here in.CA you could get DVDs of hockey games in boxes of Cheerios! I kid you not, I have a few at home (never watched them as I'm not a sports fan, but that's besides the point). If they can throw an unlimited-viewing DVD in with a box of processed oats, you can deduce how much value Disney puts in their trademarks and brand names.
Excellent news. This was just another attempt at impulse marketing by a
faceless megacorp. "Hmm.. 'National Enquirer'.. 'Weekly World News'..
oh, 'Peter Pan!'" Now somewhere at Disney someone is getting thumbscrewed over "bad market studies" that suggested this would work.
You can only package shit so many ways
before people smarten up and quit buying it.
Slashdot Mirror
Rubbish
Start a DOS window, go to the game CD then execute That will force the installation on an NT/2K system. Trust me, it works. (I have Thief Gold, Thief 2 and System Shock 2 installed on this Win2K game box
The Thief series has by far been the most engaging exercise in 1st person gaming to date. I assume that you have played Thievery?
I really enjoyed Thievery, even with my sub-standard machine and the subsequent gameplay, that's the Unreal engine making me face the fact that I'm a few years behind the times
When playing the earlier Thief series I frankly didn't care that the NPC's lips didn't move, etc, during game play. It was all atmosphere and thinking. If Thief III turns out to be a game needing a quad 4.8 GHz PC with an nVidia 8,800 card then I'll be mighty upset.
Oh, for all you Looking Glass Studios fans.. may I heartily suggest System Shock 2? (System Shock was good too, but SS2 was scary as hell)
Not to sound harsh, but buying hardware before your target software is released sounds silly. If you wait until the game is actually on shelves then you have the added benefit of buying whatever hardware you would have bought months earlier for less. Perhaps even buying better hardware for what you would have paid for the earlier stuff.
I'm waiting for Doom 3 and Thief 3 before I spend the loot.
Half-Life 2 is pure DirectX only (versions 6 to 9, quite impressive compatibility really).
That's interesting, wasn't the original Half Life based on the Quake engine? That supported OpenGL. I guess Valve dropped all OpenGL code..
I'm going bananas waiting for Thief 3
At least ThiefMissions.com has new missions to play for Thief, Thief Gold and Thief 2.
Mod me to oblivion but I must have Thief 3!!
I suggest a comprimise: Throwing free software at them.
Hmm.. if I stay up all night working at it, I bet I could hone quite a sharp edge on some old Linux CDs.
Hmm.. for my "home theatre PC" I run video through coax to my TV, run digital audio through coax to my Dolby Digital receiver, and use an "ATI Remote Bob" RF remote control (made by Saphire).
Any video is full screen and in excellent quality, the remote control (being RF) means it's not line-of-sight. In fact my computer room is ~5 M away behind me. The coax runs over the ceiling tiles in my basement. If I tossed you the remote control you'd likely think it was a DVD player until I you asked about the "ATI" logo on the remote.
Damn cool.
GIANT MONEY GRAB
The more I think of this, the more I'm enraged by it. Why?
Imagine that the net's email system is shaped like an hourglass. The top bulb is the sender of email, the bottom is the recipient. That pinched spot in the middle is where a handful of email firms (MS, Yahoo, et al) take a "micropayment" for every mail traversing their network.
They support it because they see it as a long term "User Pay" system. Microsoft has for years wanted to get into this type of system. It's plain fucking bad for the net! DO NOT SUPPORT THIS
How true. In my mind the Wikipedia is a collection of generally accepted truths. Much of it is researched, true, but you still are at the whim of majority rule when editting. They could use a mod system like
This is just business as usual for Microsoft. Fines are a blip on the bottom line for a particular quarter. The MS war chest is huge, diverting a small percentage of revenue to the chest allows them to pay fines with money they took from you illegally in the first place.
Better idea for the governments: take the money then spend it on promoting open source and non-monopolistic software within your own countries.
Heh, having gotten divorced ~1.5 years ago I must say that the best part of all is never having to watch/listen to another Trading Spaces Marathon.
(actually I cancelled my cable after we split
I've seen a female play for more than 5 minutes.
You're confusing reading the online docs with playing.
ouch.. that's gonna cost me.
I'm a typical guy and hate being on the phone longer than 3 minutes, but I try. So I was thinking - I like games, she likes to talk, why not combine the two?
Not knowing the full situation I have to ask: Have you asked her if she'd like to be in an online game for longer than 3 minutes? If she's like many (most?) women she would want to have your full attention during a conversation (the 4 other
It sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too; make sure this is what she wants before you send her all sorts of geek gear. She may just twist your intentions into thinking you're pushing her away.
That's tommorrow? Shows how much interest I have
Anyhow, I still love Apple's "1984" ad. Other then the mention of "1984" that ad could play today and still be considered timely.
well the best thing you could do is to not buy items made in china.
of course thats just a good idea anyways
Yup, you're supporting virtual slave labour when you buy Chinese.FYI: WalMart single-handedly accounts for nearly 10% of China's exports to the U.S. Read the labels..
... but how do they manage with the pr0n?
Steve "I only stole BSD twice" Jobs'
I know I'm replying to a troll but...
You can hardly call it "stealing" when the code is being used within the scope of the license as drafted. The BSD license specifically allows the use of code in a case like this with no strings about having to give back. Apple, in fact, has given back a lot to the community when they didn't need to.
Or maybe I am just a jaded IT guy?
Maybe jaded against the particular hardware you work with. We have failures among our ~300 PCs every so often, hard disks mainly. The Sun, SGI and (sole) HP machine are damn tanks. When Sol goes red giant in 3 billion years, there will be 4 SGI Origins floating around in space wondering where users went.
What can be done to make manufacturers get their heads into the real world?
Like most businesses, they listen to only one thing: their bottom line. If you don't need a camera on your phone (and, frankly, who does?) then don't spend the extra few bucks on it. Make sure you tell the person why. There will certainly be some trickle effect of what is said, whether to management, at trade shows or in the media.
Unfortunately you have the KeepingUpWithTheJoneses factor to deal with: Jones(A) gets a new phone with games. Not to be outdone, Jones(B) gets a phone with games and a camera. Jones(C) gets a phone with games and a higher-resolution camera.. Repeat ad infinitum.
This isn't intended soley as potshots against camera phones but against the "Faster, Smaller, Better" upgrade cycle that these manufacturers impose on the consumers. Remember that every dollar you spend is after-tax money. Now think about how much that shiny new widget will really cost before you walk to the cash register. You need the money more than they do.
Yeah, it's nice to (not) see. I would hope the editors voice their opinions as ACs or with accounts so long as they are at the mercy of the same moderators we all are. Contributing is honourable, even the goatse.cx links.
VA didn't buy
At a minimum, electronic voting machines need to print out a paper receipt.
(NB: I'm in
Frankly it was the price that got me. ~US$7.00 to watch a time-bombed movie?!
The key (in Disney's eyes) was their trademarks hauling in a few more bucks before being rendered useless. Hell, here in
Excellent news. This was just another attempt at impulse marketing by a faceless megacorp. "Hmm.. 'National Enquirer'.. 'Weekly World News'.. oh, 'Peter Pan!'" Now somewhere at Disney someone is getting thumbscrewed over "bad market studies" that suggested this would work.
You can only package shit so many ways before people smarten up and quit buying it.