But true science is skeptical, and it's easy to forget that those who refrain from teaching the theory of evolution as science are merely being skeptical - IOW, they're employing the scientific method.
Scientists are skeptical, of course. But the Creationists haven't really given any evidence to back up any of their claims. They haven't had a publication in a peer-reviewed science journal (I have access to those and have checked), they haven't even really presented a theory other than "god designed this". All they've done is throw some undue doubt at science without presenting a valid theory and proof to back up their theology.
Casting doubt and naysaying isn't science, disproving accepted ideas with better proof for better ideas is what drives science.
The only reason Creationist rant and rave is because scientific discoveries are creeping into the realm of their superstitions. The leaked Wedge Document is quite illuminating.
I say teach it all, including intelligent design and holocaust history and let the student sort it out.
That's the standard cop-out from the Creationists and other nuts. They hammer the kids with their cults at home, force them to their churches/synagogues/mosques on their holy days, and threaten them with eternal damnation from the day the kids are born. Reality doesn't have much chance against that type of abusive brainwashing.
Why does accommodating religion nearly always harm society?
Because most (all?) religions are intransigent in their core beliefs, even in the face of overwhelming contradictory evidence. Society pays the price for bending over backwards to appease fairy tales.
Where does it say any of what you wrote? Do you have any proof to back a shred of that up or is it all wishful thinking? The geologic evidence doesn't support the earth sitting dormant for billions of years, but feel free to disprove the scientific facts.
The Discovery Institute was started to find some scientific proof of a god. After years of failure they've started attacking science itself. A lengthy but remarkable read is http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/barbara_for rest/wedge.html">The Wedge At Work. It goes into great detail about how creationist nutbars are trying to highjack science classes and the young minds within.
Believe whatever nutty crap you want to believe, if it can't be backed with facts then it's not science.
I know (I work at a research lab:)) I was referring to how the data is collated and the results presented. Political perversion of the results shouldn't exist, the funding should come into research with no fear of what answers it may produce.
I guess these guys have to be as politically neutral as possible.
That's crap. Politics has no place in science.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it" comes to mind when politics and science meet.
Worker: Sir, I have this old display of Noah's Ark you asked for.
Where did you want it? Curator: Put some dinosaur models on
it then set it up in the Geology Wing. Worker: Will do, sir. Oh
I also changed all the signage in that wing from "millions of years" to
"thousands of years". Curator: That's what I like: proactive
thinking! What about the Adam & Eve diorama? Worker: It's
where the Galapagos Islands exhibit was, just as you requested. Curator: My boy, you have a bright future in science!
If you want to believe in a grand afterlife with angels and harps where you and your kids will float on clouds with you in a super, eternal picnic after you all die, go for it.
You may think you're somewhat free of religion (not going to church, etc.) but your ad hominem attacks speak volumes. It shows I struck a nerve as, really, you know nothing about me other than I think religion is a sham yet you call me an "obnoxious idiot", a prick, ignorant and suggest I have no personality (my family and friends will laugh at that, I'm the class clown with personality in spades)
Religious folks are a lot like Pavlov's dogs, ring that anti-religion bell and they foam at the mouth (and often mark me as a "Foe" on slashdot, so much for not judging, eh?) Between insults your post is all about what you want to believe, not what's real. Facts are proof, desire is not.
I really don't get why religion has to be this sacred cow that no one can make fun of. It's OK to make fun of Dr. Seuss or Harry Potter... Anyhow, Feel free to have the last word, I've been down this tired road before and won't waste my time replying further.
I'm not making fun of religon, I'm making fun of those who would pollute science with their superstition in an attempt at creating a theocracy.
The whole idea that no religion == no morality is crap. Morality is ingrained in us as a social animal, the loner of the tribe wouldn't have likely had survived long enough to reproduce. There are countless books that touch on the subject (ie.: The Moral Animal, Breaking the Spell, etc.) The "Let the children decide after exposure to both" is an absolute cop out from the religious nuts. Once a child has been indoctrinated into a religious cult they have a hard time getting out.
Raising children to believe in any sort of mythology is child abuse.
They
can understand that 6000 years ago a superbeing created the universe
and all things within. That dinosaurs lived on Noah's ark and that...
oh wait, you're in Germany. Forget all that, you can teach your son
actual facts!
When I was a wee lad of 5 or 6, my grandpa would sit me on his lap and tell me about life and learning. He'd say things like "Boy, always treat people as you'd like them to treat you" or "A penny saved is a penny earned". My favourite one was "Boy, never, ever misspell the word "expiry" or you'll look like a fucking retard."
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Far too many people are stuck on lines that have 128Kbps up and far too easily saturate the uplink and bog the whole connection down.
That's why it's handy to have a decent gateway which can prioritize TCP ACKs. If they get lost in the muddle your download speeds get hurt. It's covered here. (I link to the OpenBSD pages as that's what I use)
The software we ran got more expensive as the system went faster. I never quite understand that pricing scheme, since the software didn't actually do anything NEW.
You bought the more expensive IBM OSs, those ones have less NOPs compiled in.
Nope, it's been proven that humans cannot hear ultrasonic sounds. Dogs, yes. Humans, no. Otherwise, you'll be reacting to a dog whistle.
When I was a wee lad of ~8 I could hear one of the high frequency sounds made by our TV remote control (way back it was done with high frequency sound). Our dog heard it, too. No one else in the family could hear it but we did tests where I'd have my back turned and could hear the sound of that one button. You'd hear the buttons being depressed but I only commented when the one that caused that high pitched 'tingle' in my ears was the one bring pressed.
Of course I was about 8, after 25 years of blasting Motorhead and other grinding music these 41 year old ears aren't quite what they used to be. Thanks Lemmy.
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But true science is skeptical, and it's easy to forget that those who refrain from teaching the theory of evolution as science are merely being skeptical - IOW, they're employing the scientific method.
Scientists are skeptical, of course. But the Creationists haven't really given any evidence to back up any of their claims. They haven't had a publication in a peer-reviewed science journal (I have access to those and have checked), they haven't even really presented a theory other than "god designed this". All they've done is throw some undue doubt at science without presenting a valid theory and proof to back up their theology.
Casting doubt and naysaying isn't science, disproving accepted ideas with better proof for better ideas is what drives science.
The only reason Creationist rant and rave is because scientific discoveries are creeping into the realm of their superstitions. The leaked Wedge Document is quite illuminating.
I say teach it all, including intelligent design and holocaust history and let the student sort it out.
That's the standard cop-out from the Creationists and other nuts. They hammer the kids with their cults at home, force them to their churches/synagogues/mosques on their holy days, and threaten them with eternal damnation from the day the kids are born. Reality doesn't have much chance against that type of abusive brainwashing.
Why does accommodating religion nearly always harm society?
Because most (all?) religions are intransigent in their core beliefs, even in the face of overwhelming contradictory evidence. Society pays the price for bending over backwards to appease fairy tales.
Dynema SB61, a bulletproof material that is made of polyethylene. It is a higher grade of the plastic found in Tupperware.
There goes my idea for a zip-tie & Tupperware bulletproof vest. It also explains why the prototypes failed in the field.
Female Sharks Can Reproduce Alone
If male sharks had ST:TNG on DVD they'd be indistinguisable from human male geeks.
99% of the people playing this game STILL can't really play a guitar
99% of the people playing Quake STILL can't fire a rocket launcher...
Really?
Where does it say any of what you wrote? Do you have any proof to back a shred of that up or is it all wishful thinking? The geologic evidence doesn't support the earth sitting dormant for billions of years, but feel free to disprove the scientific facts.
Creationism is not science, it's shit.
The Discovery Institute was started to find some scientific proof of a god. After years of failure they've started attacking science itself. A lengthy but remarkable read is http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/barbara_fo
Believe whatever nutty crap you want to believe, if it can't be backed with facts then it's not science.
I know (I work at a research lab :)) I was referring to how the data is collated and the results presented. Political perversion of the results shouldn't exist, the funding should come into research with no fear of what answers it may produce.
I guess these guys have to be as politically neutral as possible.
That's crap. Politics has no place in science. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it" comes to mind when politics and science meet.
Overheard at the Smithsonian:
Worker: Sir, I have this old display of Noah's Ark you asked for. Where did you want it?
Curator: Put some dinosaur models on it then set it up in the Geology Wing.
Worker: Will do, sir. Oh I also changed all the signage in that wing from "millions of years" to "thousands of years".
Curator: That's what I like: proactive thinking! What about the Adam & Eve diorama?
Worker: It's where the Galapagos Islands exhibit was, just as you requested.
Curator: My boy, you have a bright future in science!
Heh, I saved the original post. It's already a classic IMHO.
If you want to believe in a grand afterlife with angels and harps where you and your kids will float on clouds with you in a super, eternal picnic after you all die, go for it.
You may think you're somewhat free of religion (not going to church, etc.) but your ad hominem attacks speak volumes. It shows I struck a nerve as, really, you know nothing about me other than I think religion is a sham yet you call me an "obnoxious idiot", a prick, ignorant and suggest I have no personality (my family and friends will laugh at that, I'm the class clown with personality in spades)
Religious folks are a lot like Pavlov's dogs, ring that anti-religion bell and they foam at the mouth (and often mark me as a "Foe" on slashdot, so much for not judging, eh?) Between insults your post is all about what you want to believe, not what's real. Facts are proof, desire is not.
I really don't get why religion has to be this sacred cow that no one can make fun of. It's OK to make fun of Dr. Seuss or Harry Potter... Anyhow, Feel free to have the last word, I've been down this tired road before and won't waste my time replying further.
I'm not making fun of religon, I'm making fun of those who would pollute science with their superstition in an attempt at creating a theocracy.
The whole idea that no religion == no morality is crap. Morality is ingrained in us as a social animal, the loner of the tribe wouldn't have likely had survived long enough to reproduce. There are countless books that touch on the subject (ie.: The Moral Animal, Breaking the Spell, etc.) The "Let the children decide after exposure to both" is an absolute cop out from the religious nuts. Once a child has been indoctrinated into a religious cult they have a hard time getting out.
Raising children to believe in any sort of mythology is child abuse.
What Can 4-yr-olds Understand About Science?
They can understand that 6000 years ago a superbeing created the universe and all things within. That dinosaurs lived on Noah's ark and that... oh wait, you're in Germany. Forget all that, you can teach your son actual facts!
When I was a wee lad of 5 or 6, my grandpa would sit me on his lap and tell me about life and learning. He'd say things like "Boy, always treat people as you'd like them to treat you" or "A penny saved is a penny earned".
My favourite one was "Boy, never, ever misspell the word "expiry" or you'll look like a fucking retard."
I sure miss Grandpa.
Try it sometime.
What did you switch to?
Thanks for the laugh, that was great! :)
The article says Sendmail has had only 4 remote holes since 2003... Why not lead by example and dig up a fresh one?
$1/per pair of eyeballs on the planet.
Far too many people are stuck on lines that have 128Kbps up and far too easily saturate the uplink and bog the whole connection down.
That's why it's handy to have a decent gateway which can prioritize TCP ACKs. If they get lost in the muddle your download speeds get hurt. It's covered here. (I link to the OpenBSD pages as that's what I use)
The software we ran got more expensive as the system went faster. I never quite understand that pricing scheme, since the software didn't actually do anything NEW.
You bought the more expensive IBM OSs, those ones have less NOPs compiled in.
I know a couple that have. However most of them have subsequently given up on Vista and reinstalled XP.
Most of a couple?
Anyhow, I love Gates' insinuation of "if you aren't using Vista, you're trapped in some pre-digital lifestyle limbo."
Nope, it's been proven that humans cannot hear ultrasonic sounds. Dogs, yes. Humans, no. Otherwise, you'll be reacting to a dog whistle.
When I was a wee lad of ~8 I could hear one of the high frequency sounds made by our TV remote control (way back it was done with high frequency sound). Our dog heard it, too. No one else in the family could hear it but we did tests where I'd have my back turned and could hear the sound of that one button. You'd hear the buttons being depressed but I only commented when the one that caused that high pitched 'tingle' in my ears was the one bring pressed.
Of course I was about 8, after 25 years of blasting Motorhead and other grinding music these 41 year old ears aren't quite what they used to be. Thanks Lemmy.