Now, take the Murdochs and the rest of the officers of the company, put em in prison for life after taking away all of their money. Also take all money from the corporation as well. Disperse it in equal parts to the people of the country the corporation is registered in.
Bleed em dry, let em rot in prison for life.
Yes, because that type of action by governments has always worked out so well in the past. It's truly astounding how those "slippery slopes" apparently only go in one direction in your mind.
Now they just claim it isn't caused by humans. Global warming deniers are the new creationists - moving goalposts every time they are proven wrong because they can't stand what science is telling them. They have zero credibility.
Now they just claim it isn't caused by sun spots. Sun spot deniers are the new creationists - moving goalposts every time they are proven wrong because they can't stand what science is telling them. They have zero credibility.
Now they just claim it isn't caused by pirates. Pirate deniers are the new creationists - moving goalposts every time they are proven wrong because they can't stand what science is telling them. They have zero credibility.
I think the upside to this is stated at the end of TFA:
Besides sparking pretty auroras, heightened solar activity has a more tangible benefit: It cleans up space junk. As the sun acts up, the Earth’s atmosphere expands, increasing friction on dead satellites, rocket parts and other trash in low Earth orbit, pulling them down.
The amount of debris in Earth orbit “actually decreased during 2011 as solar activity increased toward an anticipated maximum,” NASA’s chief space junk watcher, Nicholas Johnson, wrote in the January issue of the agency’s Orbital Debris Quarterly Newsletter.
Don't steal from the government - it hates the competition
I realize that you are joking. But it makes me wonder why so many on/. would consider this "stealing". Especially when the majority will argue the semantics of stealing when it's regarding music or entertainment data. Less than three hours prior to this,the Megaupload story has many defending piracy. Granted, the ramifications of people being arrested outside of the US for piracy is scary. But still, what's the difference between the bits that were taken for the banking code and bits taken for entertainment?
Way to ignore the majority of the post you are responding to.
Way to ignore the issue/subject in its entirety. This was posted on/ less than three hours after the Megaupload post. How is it "stealing code" if entertainment data is not stealing? They're both data and neither of the owners are deprived of any property.
The discussion of whether or not a violation of intellectual property is morally wrong (regardless of laws put in place) is rather complicated and many people have differing viewpoints on the subject. It irritates me when the issue is muddied when so many people cry 'thief!' when no theft has taken place.
I agree, it's not a simple matter in any way. I mistakenly took your post to be stating that it's OK do download what ever you want. I agree that in the traditional sense, it's not a theft of property. However It's not as simple as at copyright violation either.Times have changed and I assume that we are going to be adding new words to the English (and other) language(s), or the definition of "theft and stealing" are going to change. Even Dictionary.com gives the following example sentence:"These examples both describe the theft of intellectual or creative labor." While I find the term intellectual property nauseating, it is commonly excepted. However once that becomes such, then downloading material that is not paid for could be construed as theft of a sort. In some places you can be charged with theft for taking data from a company (as an employee, or otherwise). I fail to see the difference between making a copy of company data and entertainment data. In both cases the effect is the same. The company has lost nothing physically. The real problem, IMO, is that the copyright and patent systems are seriously broken.
Sneaking into a local movie theater without paying would also not be stealing. I suspect it would be some form of trespassing.
Very possibly. However I would guess this would vary from state to state. There's a good chance that this is defined at theft in some localities. But that's just speculation on my part.
Americans don't want to learn science and engineering, because it's hard. It takes years of extremely hard work.
Why would they. All you have to do is get on a reality show,act like a moron, and "get paid". That's a hell of a lot easier than actually working for something. It's truly sad that aspiring to be something better is considered being a chump, by many, these days.
Illegally copying/viewing/enjoying copyrighted content is not stealing, by any widely accepted definition of "stealing". Violating copyright is illegal in many jurisdictions, and it could very well be considered wrong (depending on your personal morals) but it is not theft.
First let me say that I despise the *IAA groups as much as anyone. But what you are stating is that it's perfectly fine to get something that has monetary value that the owner of is charging for. Which you somehow get for free, against the owners wishes, that's not stealing how? Why don't you try going to the local movie theater and not pay to get in. Then explain to the police that you've taken nothing of value so they can't do anything about it.
If you're going to be an asshole about grammar and spelling you might want to actually be correct. The doesn't is wrong and the learnt is perfectly fine. Unless you're implying that the learning happened in the future which is just ridiculous.
Sorry, I'm in the US and this is the first time in 40+ years I've witnessed this spelling. "Lernt" is not used here, nor did I ever see it used at any of the EU companies I've worked for in the past. My spell checker flags it as incorrect. I very rarely criticize spelling and grammar as I make plenty of type-O's myself. However, combining "lernt" with "guys obviously doesn't" in such a short sentence really looked weird to me. Since it was meant as nothing more than a lighthearted joke directed at an AC, it's so kind of you to resort to name calling.
And Frank Lloyd Wright has a house where he ran the electrical and plumbing in the block - that way you don't have conduit attached to the walls.
I knew some people who lived in Pittsburgh that had something similar w/ reinforced concrete. It's really great as long as you don't have any problems or want to upgrade anything. Then you need to spend an insane amount of time drilling, or chiseling out the wall. Constantly hitting steel rebar makes it extra fun. That conduit looks pretty good after that.
If we could produce it from sugarcane instead (the way Brazil does), the story would be different. Unfortunately, unlike Brazil we don't have a lot of land that is suitable for cultivation of sugarcane. (And in Brazil's case, converting large amounts of land to sugarcane production isn't entirely benign either, but that's another story.)
*Here's my iPlan (TM). With any luck we will keep burning fossil fuels at the current rate, or higher. We then need to find a global warming model that will show the US with a warm enough environment as to be similar to Brazil, right around the time that oil runs out. Since the US has already cleared huge swaths of land for farming, the impact of planting sugar cane should be negligible. It's a win-win.
* Yes this is a joke for those who are humor impaired.
Funny, my grandfather used to say the same thing about the country too. His grandfather probably thought something similar. I've noticed that my parents are starting to have similar feelings recently. I'm sure in another 20 or 30 years I'll be saying the same. Though I hope we are all wrong.
I'm not sure peak/offpeak hours really matter all that much. The magnet is always on, even if it's not making any sound (the gradient coils). That's why MR techs always do "the macarena" to make sure they don't have any metal before going in, even when it's quiet.
You probably wouldn't even need the gradient coils to be active for this.
Of course it matters. during peak hours the scanner is making money by scanning for billable procedures. It is also costing you money to have the techs present as they need to be paid. Yes the magnet is always on, that's why I said you are paying to keep it cool. The He needs to be kept cold enough to be a super conductor 24/7. I would also guess that running the gradients would be undesirable for this.
No, not really. The field strength stays constant. Most diagnostic MRI scanners are 1.5 or 3 Tesla. Though there are 1.2T and lower open magnets and there are some 7T experimental magnets. The field causes the protons in H2O molecules to align in a specific way. A radio frequency (RF) pulse is used to disrupt this field and caused the protons alignment to change. This RF pulse is at a specific resonance frequency with the magnetic field and is tuned to the specific field strength of the scanner. Higher field magnets require higher frequency RF and will warm (cook) the patient faster. This RF pulse does cause a variance to the effect of the magnetic field on the protons. different sequences are used to measure how the protons behave when the RF is shut off and the protons relax. This is, of course an over simplification, but the point is, is that the RF pulse (which technically could be called a magnetic field) is the second field you are referring to. The overall field strength of the scanner is never changed unless there is a problem. I've seen scanners that were in use for 20+ years. Unless it's ramped down, that magnetic field is constant all of the time. If it varied, then it wouldn't be much use.
If the thief only got a handful of copper and he was escaping by car, what is the chance that it actually cost him about as much in fuel and car maintenance to steal that copper as he got in scrap value? At the very least he would have made considerably more per hour to work in McDonalds.
That's assuming the car wasn't stolen, or the gas used wasn't. I find it truly amazing how much thought some people put into figuring out ways to make a dishonest living. I would imagine that many drug dealers would make fantastic CEOs if they had grown up under different circumstances. And vice-versa.
I'm no MRI tech, but the hope is that there would be a low-power non-diagnostic routine to accommodate the little swimmer.
No, there's no way to change the field strength in a MRI scanner. The field strength remains constant until the helium is quenched from the scanner (intentionally or accidentally). What is varied is different aspects of the RF pulse used to disrupt the magnetic field and measure the effect on the patient. But the RF is most likely not used in this case.
Okay, so... going against every warning label on the side of an MRI machine, we're going to stick something that is metallic, magnetized, and decently sized... and put it in a person, and then put that person in the machine?
Er, ok.
The summery stated it was copper, not iron. Aluminum is commonly used for MRI safe equipment all the time. There is copper in the coils already anyhow. As long as it's nonferrous it should be fine. My question is, how long does this procedure take? MRI time is expensive, and using it mainly as a power source will have accountants heads exploding. Unless they plan to do this at night during off peak, or times when the magnet is unused. That would make perfect sense as you are paying to keep the scanner cool 24/7 anyhow.
At the same time, medical ethics permits that risk because the potential benefit is higher and accrues to the patient undergoing the risk. No such benefit exists for a DHS scan. We get all the risk but no benefit.
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yeah the volt's batteries aren't safe like a big tank of hydrocarbons under your ass.
I'm not aware of any car that puts a big tank of hydrocarbons under your ass, though my old car did put one behind the passenger seat.
The Honda Fit does. The Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40 from 1972-1979 did as well.
Now, take the Murdochs and the rest of the officers of the company, put em in prison for life after taking away all of their money. Also take all money from the corporation as well. Disperse it in equal parts to the people of the country the corporation is registered in.
Bleed em dry, let em rot in prison for life.
Yes, because that type of action by governments has always worked out so well in the past. It's truly astounding how those "slippery slopes" apparently only go in one direction in your mind.
Now they just claim it isn't caused by humans. Global warming deniers are the new creationists - moving goalposts every time they are proven wrong because they can't stand what science is telling them. They have zero credibility.
Now they just claim it isn't caused by sun spots. Sun spot deniers are the new creationists - moving goalposts every time they are proven wrong because they can't stand what science is telling them. They have zero credibility.
Now they just claim it isn't caused by pirates. Pirate deniers are the new creationists - moving goalposts every time they are proven wrong because they can't stand what science is telling them. They have zero credibility.
But who the fuck cares?
I do. But only because it's where I keep all my stuff. ;-)
Besides sparking pretty auroras, heightened solar activity has a more tangible benefit: It cleans up space junk. As the sun acts up, the Earth’s atmosphere expands, increasing friction on dead satellites, rocket parts and other trash in low Earth orbit, pulling them down.
The amount of debris in Earth orbit “actually decreased during 2011 as solar activity increased toward an anticipated maximum,” NASA’s chief space junk watcher, Nicholas Johnson, wrote in the January issue of the agency’s Orbital Debris Quarterly Newsletter.
What makes for a good shielding for home electronics on such matters? Lead sheets?
Lead sheets crumble and make a mess, and probably won't do you much good. I think a Faraday cage is what you are looking for.
Don't steal from the government - it hates the competition
I realize that you are joking. But it makes me wonder why so many on /. would consider this "stealing". Especially when the majority will argue the semantics of stealing when it's regarding music or entertainment data. Less than three hours prior to this,the Megaupload story has many defending piracy. Granted, the ramifications of people being arrested outside of the US for piracy is scary. But still, what's the difference between the bits that were taken for the banking code and bits taken for entertainment?
Way to ignore the majority of the post you are responding to.
Way to ignore the issue/subject in its entirety. This was posted on / less than three hours after the Megaupload post. How is it "stealing code" if entertainment data is not stealing? They're both data and neither of the owners are deprived of any property.
I did not say that it was perfectly fine.
Sorry, my misunderstanding.
The discussion of whether or not a violation of intellectual property is morally wrong (regardless of laws put in place) is rather complicated and many people have differing viewpoints on the subject. It irritates me when the issue is muddied when so many people cry 'thief!' when no theft has taken place.
I agree, it's not a simple matter in any way. I mistakenly took your post to be stating that it's OK do download what ever you want. I agree that in the traditional sense, it's not a theft of property. However It's not as simple as at copyright violation either.Times have changed and I assume that we are going to be adding new words to the English (and other) language(s), or the definition of "theft and stealing" are going to change. Even Dictionary.com gives the following example sentence:"These examples both describe the theft of intellectual or creative labor." While I find the term intellectual property nauseating, it is commonly excepted. However once that becomes such, then downloading material that is not paid for could be construed as theft of a sort. In some places you can be charged with theft for taking data from a company (as an employee, or otherwise). I fail to see the difference between making a copy of company data and entertainment data. In both cases the effect is the same. The company has lost nothing physically. The real problem, IMO, is that the copyright and patent systems are seriously broken.
Sneaking into a local movie theater without paying would also not be stealing. I suspect it would be some form of trespassing.
Very possibly. However I would guess this would vary from state to state. There's a good chance that this is defined at theft in some localities. But that's just speculation on my part.
Americans don't want to learn science and engineering, because it's hard. It takes years of extremely hard work.
Why would they. All you have to do is get on a reality show,act like a moron, and "get paid". That's a hell of a lot easier than actually working for something. It's truly sad that aspiring to be something better is considered being a chump, by many, these days.
Illegally copying/viewing/enjoying copyrighted content is not stealing, by any widely accepted definition of "stealing". Violating copyright is illegal in many jurisdictions, and it could very well be considered wrong (depending on your personal morals) but it is not theft.
First let me say that I despise the *IAA groups as much as anyone. But what you are stating is that it's perfectly fine to get something that has monetary value that the owner of is charging for. Which you somehow get for free, against the owners wishes, that's not stealing how? Why don't you try going to the local movie theater and not pay to get in. Then explain to the police that you've taken nothing of value so they can't do anything about it.
It's catching both actually. ;-)
If you're going to be an asshole about grammar and spelling you might want to actually be correct. The doesn't is wrong and the learnt is perfectly fine. Unless you're implying that the learning happened in the future which is just ridiculous.
Sorry, I'm in the US and this is the first time in 40+ years I've witnessed this spelling. "Lernt" is not used here, nor did I ever see it used at any of the EU companies I've worked for in the past. My spell checker flags it as incorrect. I very rarely criticize spelling and grammar as I make plenty of type-O's myself. However, combining "lernt" with "guys obviously doesn't" in such a short sentence really looked weird to me. Since it was meant as nothing more than a lighthearted joke directed at an AC, it's so kind of you to resort to name calling.
... But I think this spider research project was a much better use of time and money.
Yes. These guys obviously doesn't watch the Simpsons, they could actually have learnt from it
Apparently the Simpsons is also where you have learnt [sic] spelling and grammar.
And Frank Lloyd Wright has a house where he ran the electrical and plumbing in the block - that way you don't have conduit attached to the walls.
I knew some people who lived in Pittsburgh that had something similar w/ reinforced concrete. It's really great as long as you don't have any problems or want to upgrade anything. Then you need to spend an insane amount of time drilling, or chiseling out the wall. Constantly hitting steel rebar makes it extra fun. That conduit looks pretty good after that.
If we could produce it from sugarcane instead (the way Brazil does), the story would be different. Unfortunately, unlike Brazil we don't have a lot of land that is suitable for cultivation of sugarcane. (And in Brazil's case, converting large amounts of land to sugarcane production isn't entirely benign either, but that's another story.)
*Here's my iPlan (TM). With any luck we will keep burning fossil fuels at the current rate, or higher. We then need to find a global warming model that will show the US with a warm enough environment as to be similar to Brazil, right around the time that oil runs out. Since the US has already cleared huge swaths of land for farming, the impact of planting sugar cane should be negligible. It's a win-win.
* Yes this is a joke for those who are humor impaired.
No wonder this site is circling the bowl.
Funny, my grandfather used to say the same thing about the country too. His grandfather probably thought something similar. I've noticed that my parents are starting to have similar feelings recently. I'm sure in another 20 or 30 years I'll be saying the same. Though I hope we are all wrong.
I'm not sure peak/offpeak hours really matter all that much. The magnet is always on, even if it's not making any sound (the gradient coils). That's why MR techs always do "the macarena" to make sure they don't have any metal before going in, even when it's quiet.
You probably wouldn't even need the gradient coils to be active for this.
Of course it matters. during peak hours the scanner is making money by scanning for billable procedures. It is also costing you money to have the techs present as they need to be paid. Yes the magnet is always on, that's why I said you are paying to keep it cool. The He needs to be kept cold enough to be a super conductor 24/7. I would also guess that running the gradients would be undesirable for this.
No, not really. The field strength stays constant. Most diagnostic MRI scanners are 1.5 or 3 Tesla. Though there are 1.2T and lower open magnets and there are some 7T experimental magnets. The field causes the protons in H2O molecules to align in a specific way. A radio frequency (RF) pulse is used to disrupt this field and caused the protons alignment to change. This RF pulse is at a specific resonance frequency with the magnetic field and is tuned to the specific field strength of the scanner. Higher field magnets require higher frequency RF and will warm (cook) the patient faster. This RF pulse does cause a variance to the effect of the magnetic field on the protons. different sequences are used to measure how the protons behave when the RF is shut off and the protons relax. This is, of course an over simplification, but the point is, is that the RF pulse (which technically could be called a magnetic field) is the second field you are referring to. The overall field strength of the scanner is never changed unless there is a problem. I've seen scanners that were in use for 20+ years. Unless it's ramped down, that magnetic field is constant all of the time. If it varied, then it wouldn't be much use.
If the thief only got a handful of copper and he was escaping by car, what is the chance that it actually cost him about as much in fuel and car maintenance to steal that copper as he got in scrap value? At the very least he would have made considerably more per hour to work in McDonalds.
That's assuming the car wasn't stolen, or the gas used wasn't. I find it truly amazing how much thought some people put into figuring out ways to make a dishonest living. I would imagine that many drug dealers would make fantastic CEOs if they had grown up under different circumstances. And vice-versa.
No benfit? What about all the terrorists that this thing is definitely going to stop?!?
What about all of the non-terrorists this thing is going to give cancer to?
I'm no MRI tech, but the hope is that there would be a low-power non-diagnostic routine to accommodate the little swimmer.
No, there's no way to change the field strength in a MRI scanner. The field strength remains constant until the helium is quenched from the scanner (intentionally or accidentally). What is varied is different aspects of the RF pulse used to disrupt the magnetic field and measure the effect on the patient. But the RF is most likely not used in this case.
Okay, so... going against every warning label on the side of an MRI machine, we're going to stick something that is metallic, magnetized, and decently sized... and put it in a person, and then put that person in the machine?
Er, ok.
The summery stated it was copper, not iron. Aluminum is commonly used for MRI safe equipment all the time. There is copper in the coils already anyhow. As long as it's nonferrous it should be fine. My question is, how long does this procedure take? MRI time is expensive, and using it mainly as a power source will have accountants heads exploding. Unless they plan to do this at night during off peak, or times when the magnet is unused. That would make perfect sense as you are paying to keep the scanner cool 24/7 anyhow.
At the same time, medical ethics permits that risk because the potential benefit is higher and accrues to the patient undergoing the risk. No such benefit exists for a DHS scan. We get all the risk but no benefit.
I couldn't agree more.