> Actually, you do. If you install some random shell, and renamed it to 'bash'
Actually bash itself is a (free) replacement for sh. If bash is called as sh, it behaves just like sh. So it seems, at least in the unix world, that even something as integral as the shell is not integrated into the OS. The behavior and the standard are integrated, but not the specific app.
Nothing would break as long as you were using the standard options.
> MS needs a standard browser
But MS doesn't offer a standards compliant browser. All that's required is a standards compliant browser and standards compliant html files. I can't for the life of me imagine a help system that would be dependent on MS extensions.
No, Sun is not engaging in anti competitve process by including ls... because you can remove it! Which was my whole point. I can *add* Netscape to Windows 98, I just can't remove IE.
I don't think he meant to belittle the anger at Corel... he just thought it was "amusing" that no one actually tried to contact Corel.
Anger is one thing, but flaming shouldn't get in the way of action. If, as you say, someone distributed bootleg WP, do you think Corel would just bitch and moan?
I apreciate Bruce's action but, in his own words, "I'm not always around to help...". He's not the Lone Ranger and we shouldn't just expect that someone will fix our problems.
Well, you claim the _actual_ _problem_ was NT, but the actual problem was pretty well documented. Sun provided them with a patch and Ebay didn't apply it. Nothing to do with the front end.
So wait, if I wanna take GPL code and sell it, all I have to do is make the person I'm selling it to sign an "NDA" or claim they are my employee? Just as long as I don't sell it to the public at CompUSA, I can claim it's "private" and get around the GPL? I think not...
> At least MS delays their products so they can get the bugs out.
Yes, we're all glad MS code is free of bugs...
Anyways, this is the EXACT trick that MS pulled just last week. Sun announces Star Office because they're still pushing for web-based office apps. Later that week, Balmer announces that MS had been planning to do the same thing, and that they've been planning this for a while, and we should all just wait and see. Story at http://linuxtoday.com/stories/9496.html
I remember not only hearing that he was dead, but that he would be in the prequel as Obi Wan. They were, so the rumor went, going to take film from Guinness as a younger man and pull a Forrest Gump.
I searched for the rumour, and found it... in Italian! Although it doesn't include the rumor of his death, you can use bablefish to read:
http://delos.fantascienza.com/delos25/swpreq.htm l
Rumors of Guinness' death are debunked all over the place (in fact, the only thing the FAQs mention is that he's not dead, "Not Yet"). Try:
So "Power Users" don't mind things crashing and are primarily concerned with eye candy while new users just want things to work???
I think you've got the groups backwards. New users (especially those migrating from doze) are used to things crashing as well as the form over substance of eye candy. Power users, on the other hand, are actually DOING stuff with their computer already and don't need distractions.
> somebody else hijacks your account and deletes everything for you!
But they don't! They just get moved to a trash folder where it will, someday, be cleaned up. MS even advised users (that asked) to check if they had messages in there trash. If you had something sesnitive on your hotmail account and an exploit was discovered, you couldn't get rid of it. On Yahoo!, you can delete everything and them "Empty Trash". That's the point I was trying to make.
There is some amount of KDE integration (or CDE, if you prefer). You can drag & drop to/from kfm, and it installs Mime Types in KDE for StarOffice files (although for some odd reason, the "descriptions" are all "mime type". Duh.
I would like to see it do away with its attempt to be its own window manager, though.
So how did you come to choose hotmail over yahoo or any of the others. I use yahoo for the same reasons you mentioned, but I also like the fact that it is not such a haven for crackers and spammers (heck, MS wouldn't even delete the hotmail account that a trojan was emailing info to) and it seems to have a slightly better reputation. I loathe email from hotmail even more than AOL. Also, I can actually clean out my trash when I want to.
A software glitch (division by 0) resulted in the entire LAN crashing. That's right, one database failure caused the entire network to go down. Try that on linux as a regular user.
So if I add "ttyp0" to/etc/securetty and disabled the root password on my linux box, who would take the blame for "breakins": Linux or me?
Regarding the ebay outages (which MS blamed on Sun), the problem was that Sun did provide patches, but the ebay admins did not apply them. Is Sun responsible?
Um, this was about Linux. How did you happen to read it? I mean, heck, you even read and replied to comments on it. Not a very effective boycott you got going there...
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Windows has large memory leaks. It *will* need to be rebooted periodically. Period. No alternative.
BSOD is also a phenomenon that does not exist in Linux.
One word: Clueless. Really, I think that's all there is to it. Clueless in a Big Way.
According to the original Wired article, they thought it would be "fun".
From letter to me when I told them I would no longer purchase their, THEY seemed surprised. They must have thought I didn't understand that these were aggregate invasions of privacy, not personal ones.
I suspect it was letters from legal depts threatening action on behalf of the companies whose names were being used that had a far bigger effect. I mean, look at what their reaction to the outrage was: the absolute LEAST they could possibly do, probably just enough to avoid lawsuits...
These are NOT books purchased by the corporation. They are simply the purchased of free and private citizens who happen to have email provided to them by their employers.
Ok, SOME of these might actually be the "corporate" purchases. But they can't be distinguished. Do you really think the PG&E bought its employees "Who Moved My Cheese" as part of their severance package?
I think government purchases are supposed to be totally open, so I don't think about can really complain about being able to see what was sold to.gov people.
It's NOT "government" purchases, it's purchases to people who happen to have a.gov address. The same is true of the corporate purchase circles. They aren't tracking what the corporations are buying, just what employees who work there buy.
And for all the consipracy buffs out there, any guesses why Amazon did this?
Duh. Maybe people told them they would stop buying from them. They probably also got a couple of letters from legal depts at various corporations who don't like to be used as spokesmen for Amazon.
Whenever I use my employers email, I always include (as per company policy) a disclaimer that says that I do not speak for them. Now Amazon comes along and claims that everyone at Ziff-Davis really likes to read "Memoirs of a Geisha". Really, it's #2! Sickos.
Now, it looks to ME like Ziff-Davis is advertising for both Amazon and for "Memoirs of a Geisha" and, even more embarrassing, Tom Brokaw's book! And ZD doesn't even get paid for this humiliating ad.
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It's just the content of the page the article links to. Hopefully it will avoid a sever /. effect on their server.
Considering how few people every actually READ the articles they comment on, I think it's a good idea to have a mirror posted with a Score of 5.
> Actually, you do. If you install some random shell, and renamed it to 'bash'
Actually bash itself is a (free) replacement for sh. If bash is called as sh, it behaves just like sh. So it seems, at least in the unix world, that even something as integral as the shell is not integrated into the OS. The behavior and the standard are integrated, but not the specific app.
Nothing would break as long as you were using the standard options.
> MS needs a standard browser
But MS doesn't offer a standards compliant browser. All that's required is a standards compliant browser and standards compliant html files. I can't for the life of me imagine a help system that would be dependent on MS extensions.
No, Sun is not engaging in anti competitve process by including ls... because you can remove it! Which was my whole point. I can *add* Netscape to Windows 98, I just can't remove IE.
I think the "ls" command is pretty useful tool, too. But on my Solaris 2.6 machine, I can replace it with gls.
> brace yourself: the writing style is somewhere between low-key and comatose
The book or the review?
Come on, Katz. Of the last 5 book reviews, this is both the shortest book and the longest review. And it didn't even include the TOC.
I guess I can kind of understand being a bit long-winded in a feature article, but you really must consider editing when writing a review...
I don't think he meant to belittle the anger at Corel... he just thought it was "amusing" that no one actually tried to contact Corel.
/. disatisfaction.
Anger is one thing, but flaming shouldn't get in the way of action. If, as you say, someone distributed bootleg WP, do you think Corel would just bitch and moan?
I apreciate Bruce's action but, in his own words, "I'm not always around to help...". He's not the Lone Ranger and we shouldn't just expect that someone will fix our problems.
We need action, not
> hence my citation of the _actual_ _problem_.
Well, you claim the _actual_ _problem_ was NT, but the actual problem was pretty well documented. Sun provided them with a patch and Ebay didn't apply it. Nothing to do with the front end.
So wait, if I wanna take GPL code and sell it, all I have to do is make the person I'm selling it to sign an "NDA" or claim they are my employee? Just as long as I don't sell it to the public at CompUSA, I can claim it's "private" and get around the GPL? I think not...
> At least MS delays their products so they can get the bugs out.
Yes, we're all glad MS code is free of bugs...
Anyways, this is the EXACT trick that MS pulled just last week. Sun announces Star Office because they're still pushing for web-based office apps. Later that week, Balmer announces that MS had been planning to do the same thing, and that they've been planning this for a while, and we should all just wait and see. Story at http://linuxtoday.com/stories/9496.html
I remember not only hearing that he was dead, but that he would be in the prequel as Obi Wan. They were, so the rumor went, going to take film from Guinness as a younger man and pull a Forrest Gump.
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I searched for the rumour, and found it... in Italian! Although it doesn't include the rumor of his death, you can use bablefish to read:
http://delos.fantascienza.com/delos25/swpreq.ht
Rumors of Guinness' death are debunked all over the place (in fact, the only thing the FAQs mention is that he's not dead, "Not Yet"). Try:
http://www.bus.miami.edu/~jdavis/StarWars/sw_ne
So "Power Users" don't mind things crashing and are primarily concerned with eye candy while new users just want things to work???
I think you've got the groups backwards. New users (especially those migrating from doze) are used to things crashing as well as the form over substance of eye candy. Power users, on the other hand, are actually DOING stuff with their computer already and don't need distractions.
Microsoft owns Windows too, but it runs there...
"But many are simply curious about why a new user
would choose Linux over FreeBSD, despite
FreeBSD's technical superiority."
And this was a quote to refute that they are jealous of Linux. They're just... curious.
And MS doesn't have bugs, they just have issues.
> somebody else hijacks your account and deletes everything for you!
But they don't! They just get moved to a trash folder where it will, someday, be cleaned up. MS even advised users (that asked) to check if they had messages in there trash. If you had something sesnitive on your hotmail account and an exploit was discovered, you couldn't get rid of it. On Yahoo!, you can delete everything and them "Empty Trash". That's the point I was trying to make.
There is some amount of KDE integration (or CDE, if you prefer). You can drag & drop to/from kfm, and it installs Mime Types in KDE for StarOffice files (although for some odd reason, the "descriptions" are all "mime type". Duh.
I would like to see it do away with its attempt to be its own window manager, though.
So how did you come to choose hotmail over yahoo or any of the others. I use yahoo for the same reasons you mentioned, but I also like the fact that it is not such a haven for crackers and spammers (heck, MS wouldn't even delete the hotmail account that a trojan was emailing info to) and it seems to have a slightly better reputation. I loathe email from hotmail even more than AOL. Also, I can actually clean out my trash when I want to.
Here's the original story: http://www.gcn.com/archives/gc n/1998/july13/cov2.htm
and a quote:
"Using Windows NT, which is known to have some failure modes, on a warship is similar to hoping that luck will be in our favor," DiGiorgio said.
So if I add "ttyp0" to /etc/securetty and disabled the root password on my linux box, who would take the blame for "breakins": Linux or me?
Regarding the ebay outages (which MS blamed on Sun), the problem was that Sun did provide patches, but the ebay admins did not apply them. Is Sun responsible?
> Its made me stop reading anything about linux
Um, this was about Linux. How did you happen to read it? I mean, heck, you even read and replied to comments on it. Not a very effective boycott you got going there...
Windows has large memory leaks. It *will* need to be rebooted periodically. Period. No alternative.
BSOD is also a phenomenon that does not exist in Linux.
> Why did they do this in the first place?
One word: Clueless. Really, I think that's all there is to it. Clueless in a Big Way.
According to the original Wired article, they thought it would be "fun".
From letter to me when I told them I would no longer purchase their, THEY seemed surprised. They must have thought I didn't understand that these were aggregate invasions of privacy, not personal ones.
I suspect it was letters from legal depts threatening action on behalf of the companies whose names were being used that had a far bigger effect. I mean, look at what their reaction to the outrage was: the absolute LEAST they could possibly do, probably just enough to avoid lawsuits...
I see that M$ is no longer listed. I guess they weren't happy that Amazon was using them to advertise a book on Netscape...
These are NOT books purchased by the corporation. They are simply the purchased of free and private citizens who happen to have email provided to them by their employers.
Ok, SOME of these might actually be the "corporate" purchases. But they can't be distinguished. Do you really think the PG&E bought its employees "Who Moved My Cheese" as part of their severance package?
It's NOT "government" purchases, it's purchases to people who happen to have a .gov address. The same is true of the corporate purchase circles. They aren't tracking what the corporations are buying, just what employees who work there buy.
And for all the consipracy buffs out there, any guesses why Amazon did this?
Duh. Maybe people told them they would stop buying from them. They probably also got a couple of letters from legal depts at various corporations who don't like to be used as spokesmen for Amazon.
Whenever I use my employers email, I always include (as per company policy) a disclaimer that says that I do not speak for them. Now Amazon comes along and claims that everyone at Ziff-Davis really likes to read "Memoirs of a Geisha". Really, it's #2! Sickos.
Now, it looks to ME like Ziff-Davis is advertising for both Amazon and for "Memoirs of a Geisha" and, even more embarrassing, Tom Brokaw's book! And ZD doesn't even get paid for this humiliating ad.