I mean after search, what have they delivered besides betas and hype? Collapsible threads in webmail?
Google Maps Google Earth/Moon/Mars Google Skymaps Google Translate Google Docs Google Calendar Google Desktop Search Google Image Search Google Code Google Talk
Plus they run/own: Blogger Youtube Picasa Sketchup
But apart from that, nothing...
I'm not saying they're perfect but saying that they've done nothing but search is just plain wrong.
They have a point though. Presumably, if typing something up you would have to look back and forth between the source text and the screen as opposed to English where you can stare at the source text and be sure that when you press the "a" key you get an "a".
Okay, so I'll repeat my question... why are you browsing Slashdot at work, instead of WORKING ?
I'm on my lunch break.
I'll decide if something is a warning or not
It's in caps to get your attention, otherwise you're likely to miss it, negating the point of the warning in the first place. Anyway, you can't decide if it's a warning or not. Either someone is warning you about something or they aren't. "Look out! There's a car coming!" "Well you may be warning me of the car but I'm going to interpret your statement as a question. Yes, there is a car coming. What of it?" *Splat*
sounds like a lot of alarmist bullshit to me
Well, it is a warning, whether you believe that or not. Warnings are kind of alarming by definition. If they're not alarming they don't make very good warnings.
If something is NSFW, then don't fucking browse it at work... how simple is that ?
That is a great plan. It would be an easier plan to follow if I could tell that a site was NSFW before I visit it. Maybe if people that post links could add "NSFW" next to the link. And if they forget that then someone could add a helpful comment underneath so that people don't get caught out. They might want to put it in capitals so that people notice it.
In fact, why exactly would ANYONE be browsing that site AT work ?
Because someone hadn't heard of it before, it was linked from Slashdot and they didn't notice the warning that was below it because it was written too small.
Perhaps if more people actually WORKED at work, the country wouldn't be in such a goddamn mess?
Perhaps if you worked somewhere where you are allowed to relax and read/. for a couple of minutes rather than working 100% of the time you wouldn't be so goddamn stressed and might live a bit longer.
There is definitely some miscommunication going on. For instance you didn't finish the middle sentence in the above comment. Instead, realising that you had no data to back up your assertions, you waved it away and pointed at immigration, as if that proves something.
You seem to be saying that if some people from another country migrate to yours then it follows that all the people in that country (even people that may have had the chance to move but decided instead to stay where they are) would rather live in your country than their own. All it really proves is that some foreigners are still dreaming the American dream.
The GP didn't imply that democracy is bad. Or that America is bad (good strawman there). His point - which, incidentally, you appear to be reinforcing nicely despite apparently trying to refute - was that some Americans appear to believe that their country is better than all others in all ways and that their lifestyle is to be desired and revered by the rest of the world when in fact this just isn't true. Sure America is pretty cool in a lot of ways and there are (what I would consider) worse places to live but nobody and no country is perfect. Some people are happy where they are even when they live somewhere which a westerner might consider deplorable. Just because you would rather be where you are than where someone else is doesn't mean that person feels the same.
Also (because I'm feeling particularly picky) you can have an influx of immigrants but an influx of immigration is illogical - does not compute.
Sometimes that works. Sometimes it doesn't. Sometime you're *gasp* not using Google to search for something. Sometimes you want to search a forum or even an offline file. Sure you can do "Random Program site:example.com" but that doesn't always work well. Sometimes the name of the program isn't directly followed by the version number, sometimes they're separate, something that your search wouldn't take into account.
I'm not bringing this up as some thought experiment potential pitfall - it has actually happened to me (I just can't remember the name of the software). My point is that names provide a real functionality which you are ignoring because you know a bit of Google-fu.
(2) Or if I can't have that, a clone of the Windows OS so I'm no longer locked into the Microsoft Monopoly when running MS software. Something like Wine but bigger.
Yeah, that's all well and good until you have a problem with running Random Program 10.4 on Mac OS 10.6 and all the search engines give you is advice on how to run Random Program 10.6 on Mac OS 10.4. That's when the names are useful.
And you can still use the version numbers if you prefer.
Thirty days have September, April, June and November. All the rest have 31 except for February all alone which has 28 most of the time except for when it has 29 this doesn't really scan oh I give up.
Slashdot Mirror
I know they exist - I read about them on Slashdot about a year ago.
For a brief lesson in how to read a comment out of context and make a totally stupid reply, please see the above comment.
I mean after search, what have they delivered besides betas and hype? Collapsible threads in webmail?
Google Maps
Google Earth/Moon/Mars
Google Skymaps
Google Translate
Google Docs
Google Calendar
Google Desktop Search
Google Image Search
Google Code
Google Talk
Plus they run/own:
Blogger
Youtube
Picasa
Sketchup
But apart from that, nothing...
I'm not saying they're perfect but saying that they've done nothing but search is just plain wrong.
Do you know what Chrome OS is? Its a browser for an operating system, without net access it may as well be a brick.
Do you know what a netbook is? I'll give you a clue: there's a hint in the name. Without net access you may as well buy a decent computer.
It's the reference that's obscure, not the movie.
...they won the bob-sleigh race?
Well, I imagine it would be hard if you don't speak Japanese...
Nah, just kidding. I've got no point to prove here, I was just pointing out that robbak's comment wasn't entirely without merit.
They have a point though. Presumably, if typing something up you would have to look back and forth between the source text and the screen as opposed to English where you can stare at the source text and be sure that when you press the "a" key you get an "a".
Okay, so I'll repeat my question ... why are you browsing Slashdot at work, instead of WORKING ?
I'm on my lunch break.
I'll decide if something is a warning or not
It's in caps to get your attention, otherwise you're likely to miss it, negating the point of the warning in the first place. Anyway, you can't decide if it's a warning or not. Either someone is warning you about something or they aren't. "Look out! There's a car coming!" "Well you may be warning me of the car but I'm going to interpret your statement as a question. Yes, there is a car coming. What of it?" *Splat*
sounds like a lot of alarmist bullshit to me
Well, it is a warning, whether you believe that or not. Warnings are kind of alarming by definition. If they're not alarming they don't make very good warnings.
If something is NSFW, then don't fucking browse it at work ... how simple is that ?
That is a great plan. It would be an easier plan to follow if I could tell that a site was NSFW before I visit it. Maybe if people that post links could add "NSFW" next to the link. And if they forget that then someone could add a helpful comment underneath so that people don't get caught out. They might want to put it in capitals so that people notice it.
In fact, why exactly would ANYONE be browsing that site AT work ?
Because someone hadn't heard of it before, it was linked from Slashdot and they didn't notice the warning that was below it because it was written too small.
Perhaps if more people actually WORKED at work, the country wouldn't be in such a goddamn mess?
Perhaps if you worked somewhere where you are allowed to relax and read /. for a couple of minutes rather than working 100% of the time you wouldn't be so goddamn stressed and might live a bit longer.
In fact, why exactly would ANYONE be browsing that site AT work ?
Maybe because you've not heard of it before and clicked through from a link on Slashdot - a site where NSFW links aren't that common.
I've got alot of mopey.
So in order to refute the GPs claim you include an example of the usage which the GP claimed as correct. And you insult him.
It seems you are the douche, my anonymous friend.
There is definitely some miscommunication going on. For instance you didn't finish the middle sentence in the above comment. Instead, realising that you had no data to back up your assertions, you waved it away and pointed at immigration, as if that proves something.
You seem to be saying that if some people from another country migrate to yours then it follows that all the people in that country (even people that may have had the chance to move but decided instead to stay where they are) would rather live in your country than their own. All it really proves is that some foreigners are still dreaming the American dream.
The GP didn't imply that democracy is bad. Or that America is bad (good strawman there). His point - which, incidentally, you appear to be reinforcing nicely despite apparently trying to refute - was that some Americans appear to believe that their country is better than all others in all ways and that their lifestyle is to be desired and revered by the rest of the world when in fact this just isn't true. Sure America is pretty cool in a lot of ways and there are (what I would consider) worse places to live but nobody and no country is perfect. Some people are happy where they are even when they live somewhere which a westerner might consider deplorable. Just because you would rather be where you are than where someone else is doesn't mean that person feels the same.
Also (because I'm feeling particularly picky) you can have an influx of immigrants but an influx of immigration is illogical - does not compute.
Then that's something you can agree on. Are you going to answer his question now?
What counts as a defect?
What counts as a variation?
Well done, you almost got the point!
I considered pre-empting this reply but I didn't.
Sometimes that works. Sometimes it doesn't. Sometime you're *gasp* not using Google to search for something. Sometimes you want to search a forum or even an offline file. Sure you can do "Random Program site:example.com" but that doesn't always work well. Sometimes the name of the program isn't directly followed by the version number, sometimes they're separate, something that your search wouldn't take into account.
I'm not bringing this up as some thought experiment potential pitfall - it has actually happened to me (I just can't remember the name of the software). My point is that names provide a real functionality which you are ignoring because you know a bit of Google-fu.
(2) Or if I can't have that, a clone of the Windows OS so I'm no longer locked into the Microsoft Monopoly when running MS software. Something like Wine but bigger.
Something like ReactOS?
(Note: I've not actually used it but it looks interesting...)
Yeah, that's all well and good until you have a problem with running Random Program 10.4 on Mac OS 10.6 and all the search engines give you is advice on how to run Random Program 10.6 on Mac OS 10.4. That's when the names are useful.
And you can still use the version numbers if you prefer.
What is north of the north pole?
You mean everyone but IE users?
For no reason, re-enter the building until given the OK by emergency responders
Erm, either the fire instructions are very different where you are or you could have phrased that better.
...which reminds of that old rhyme...
Thirty days have September, April, June and November. All the rest have 31 except for February all alone which has 28 most of the time except for when it has 29 this doesn't really scan oh I give up.
I before E, except after C.
Except for species, science, sufficient, ancient, society, seize, weird, theism, eight, weight, protein, sovereignty, foreign, vein, feisty, kaleidoscope, being, neighbour, their and numerous other words.
Yeah. Who'd bother drawing a picture when you can just take a photo?