you know, people keep saying that, but I've been working with Dell servers for a year now, and certainly they are no Sun in terms of sexiness, but I haven't had any problems at all yet... I have had a few issues with Dell workstations at random having noisy cooling fans, but that it has happened to me before with other manufacturers too.
Firstly, Linspire (oh god I'm melting!) is not a good example, the way that distro is way too kernel patch-happy (apart from all the other scary stuff) is the reason you had to reboot.
Secondly, if you install a distro that isn't brand new, of course after the first update you'll need to reboot, as it'll most likely patch the kernel.
My Fedora box (core 6) has only had 2 kernel patches, and so hence has had only 2 update related reboots. My Ubuntu 7.04 laptop has had 1 update related reboot.
My XP Pro box has had over 20 (!) update related reboots, partially due to driver updates.
- ~$1000 per serve license - ~$1000 per exchange license - ~$280 per user for server/exchange cal combo - ~$700 per user for an XP Pro/Office 2003 Pro combo
so after you purchase 3 x 2003 servers, an exchange server license and enough software + cals for all 80 of your users, you've spent:
(4 x 1000) + ((280 + 700) * 80) = $82,400 in total
OR
$1030 per user (!) wtf??
I administer a windows network, and the costs are scary. I'm steadily moving things off to samba boxen and switching backups to a Bacula server. Thank dog the sysad before me didn't bow down to dodgy sales guys selling thin client systems using terminal server!!
The way I like to look at it, Windows Server is like and BMW 5 series. It is great as long as you don't do crazy stuff with it, and stick to BMW approved accessories. It (and accessories) cost appropriately. If it breaks down, dog help you if you try to fix it yourself, and it'll cost lots of moolah.
Linux/BSD is like a Ford Mustang or a Holden Monaro... If you know how to keep the thing going, it'll be more fun, useful much cheaper, and way sexier/cooler than the BMW. But you really need to know what you are doing, otherwise you'll be stuffed.
You don't need the range to be in the article. Just use zen.spamhaus.org in your rbl thingy, and that'll keep you covered. spamhaus and spamcop have been blocking these guys for a while now...
Yep, I have to agree. The Canon RAW driver for windows crashes explorer, and takes up about 1 GB of memory... The only stable way I can view RAWs in Vista is in Adobe Lightroom. Again, that isn't a problem of MS, but rather dodgy coding on Canon's part.
That being said, the native RAW driver in Ubuntu works flawlessly, and hasn't crashed anything yet, pity there is no nice Lightroom equivalent in Linux. (Hey Adobe! Port Lightroom to linux already!)
> After releasing code under the LGPL, it doesn't matter who "owns" it. A recipient is free to use it. Period.
Not quite... only of it stays LGPL, and the user is notified of this. I think his point was that software companies (like Microsoft) are sneakily using GPL and LGPL code and not honoring the licensing terms...
> What Red Hat is doing is very important.
I agree. As someone who deploys and maintains Red Hat/CentOS/Fedora boxen I'm keeping a close eye on this.
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it's a pity that anyone wishing to build their own Mac has to opt for the "Bittorrent Edition" as well... :(
you know, people keep saying that, but I've been working with Dell servers for a year now, and certainly they are no Sun in terms of sexiness, but I haven't had any problems at all yet... I have had a few issues with Dell workstations at random having noisy cooling fans, but that it has happened to me before with other manufacturers too.
Firstly, Linspire (oh god I'm melting!) is not a good example, the way that distro is way too kernel patch-happy (apart from all the other scary stuff) is the reason you had to reboot.
Secondly, if you install a distro that isn't brand new, of course after the first update you'll need to reboot, as it'll most likely patch the kernel.
My Fedora box (core 6) has only had 2 kernel patches, and so hence has had only 2 update related reboots. My Ubuntu 7.04 laptop has had 1 update related reboot.
My XP Pro box has had over 20 (!) update related reboots, partially due to driver updates.
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by $1000 set of OSes/licenses I hope you mean:
- ~$1000 per serve license
- ~$1000 per exchange license
- ~$280 per user for server/exchange cal combo
- ~$700 per user for an XP Pro/Office 2003 Pro combo
so after you purchase 3 x 2003 servers, an exchange server license and enough software + cals for all 80 of your users, you've spent:
(4 x 1000) + ((280 + 700) * 80) = $82,400 in total
OR
$1030 per user (!) wtf??
I administer a windows network, and the costs are scary. I'm steadily moving things off to samba boxen and switching backups to a Bacula server. Thank dog the sysad before me didn't bow down to dodgy sales guys selling thin client systems using terminal server!!
The way I like to look at it, Windows Server is like and BMW 5 series. It is great as long as you don't do crazy stuff with it, and stick to BMW approved accessories. It (and accessories) cost appropriately. If it breaks down, dog help you if you try to fix it yourself, and it'll cost lots of moolah.
Linux/BSD is like a Ford Mustang or a Holden Monaro... If you know how to keep the thing going, it'll be more fun, useful much cheaper, and way sexier/cooler than the BMW. But you really need to know what you are doing, otherwise you'll be stuffed.
5 - 4 = 1 1 more click in Vista you insensitive clod!
Seriously, why do people post such crap on slashdot?? what next, a review for "bash for Dummies"? "guide to pushing a power button"?
You don't need the range to be in the article. Just use zen.spamhaus.org in your rbl thingy, and that'll keep you covered. spamhaus and spamcop have been blocking these guys for a while now...
I dunno, I still reckon a full install of Debian Sarge will give it a run for it's money :)
Yep, I have to agree. The Canon RAW driver for windows crashes explorer, and takes up about 1 GB of memory... The only stable way I can view RAWs in Vista is in Adobe Lightroom. Again, that isn't a problem of MS, but rather dodgy coding on Canon's part. That being said, the native RAW driver in Ubuntu works flawlessly, and hasn't crashed anything yet, pity there is no nice Lightroom equivalent in Linux. (Hey Adobe! Port Lightroom to linux already!)
Dude, have you ever TRIED to use outlook??
> After releasing code under the LGPL, it doesn't matter who "owns" it. A recipient is free to use it. Period. Not quite... only of it stays LGPL, and the user is notified of this. I think his point was that software companies (like Microsoft) are sneakily using GPL and LGPL code and not honoring the licensing terms... > What Red Hat is doing is very important. I agree. As someone who deploys and maintains Red Hat/CentOS/Fedora boxen I'm keeping a close eye on this.
Uhm what? What's wrong with: sudo su -