Here in Canada, time-sensitive treatments are bumped forward to ensure things like cancer get tackled in time. The wait-times for less-urgent treatments tend to be very long as a consequence, but I'd argue that this is still superior to the US model, where the uninsured simply end up untreated until they end up in the emergency room.
I would say it's definitely better - I don't understand how any ethical person can stand by and say it's okay that sick people don't get help until they're almost dropping dead.
Preventative medicine is a lot cheaper than reactive, and even reactive medicine is cheaper than standing by waiting until mild knee pain turns into a complete knee reconstruction.
DAY 1: Walk into doctors with pain, describe non-specific symptoms, CT Scan + XRAY ordered.
DAY 1 + 1 Hour: CT Scan + XRAY done.
DAY 1 + 3 Hours: Pickup CT Scan + XRAY.
DAY 1 + 4 Hours: Sitting with doctor discussing results, more tests ordered.
DAY 1 + 4.5 Hours: Sitting in pathology having blood drawn.
DAY 2: MRI done (picked up in 1 hour)
DAY 2 + 3 Hours: See doctor, diagnosis formally made, referred to specialist for confirmation & surgery.
DAY 7: (little wait for specialist, he is world renowned spinal surgery & therefore a little busy) See specialist, diagnosis confirmed, given surgery dates available.
The soonest available surgery was 1 week. I took 4 weeks as although it was painful I had a family & a job I needed to organise things with and the medication whilst not solving the problem made it bearable to get on with life.
So not months and years, barely even a fortnight if I took the first available appointment. That rivals the most expensive facilities in the world really.
We don't have some sort of dodgy barely any capacity system, whilst yes, there are problems. If you need surgery you will get it. If you want a cosemetic nose job paid for by the taxpayer, well you might be waiting a little while.
Guess it depends on the chicken breed, like it does the cat breed.
I know some chickens that have very good personalities and one breed many people I know have all display moderate levels of intelligence including the marvel of toilet training and using a chicken bed in the house (ala a cat bed).
They don't really have predator or parasite problems either, but then they are wormed/etc. A domestic cat can attract the same unless you're sensible too.
You're allowed to have a gun if you're a member of a shooting club or own a sizable patch of land and need to control "wild animals" (and/or streetsigns after a night on the turps).
Yes, we're being killed by drought, more than 70% of the country is in severe drought, only the east coast cities are okay, and it's creeping in on the edges there even.
But you know what? That's just the biggest drought ever recorded. That's not climate change!
Currently there's more than a battle over water - it could be called a war. It's got all the pieces of a brewing civil war:
- Guns (People having armed standoffs over water supplies) - State vs State Hatred (Queensland is hoarding off the flood planes daming off trillions of kilolitres which would normally flood down into NSW irrigating millions of hectres of farmland) - Explosives (Several water control weirs have been dynamited & blown up to restore waterflow to rivers) - Violence (confrontations & bust ups with contractors as they build water control weirs) - Guerilla Warfare (Dynamiting of facilities at night) - Hoarding (See QLD v NSW point above)
All beause we allow companies to buy water rights.
Here's a common situation: Joe blow owns 100 Hectares and has a well to the undergroun aquaifer. Bank5 owns 100 Hectares nearby - Bank5 can drill umteen number of wells and pump out all the underground water it likes seening as it has the money to drill numerous wells, but Joe doesn't have thousands to drill well after well and is left with no water. Joe then buys water rights for 5,000 litres from the local river. However Bank4 has paid for 400,000 litres from the river & has installed a water control weir to obtain it. Downstream there's no water left for Joe. Joe doesn't get a refund & his cows are now starving as he has no grain to because irrigation has failed & no water for them to drink.
It's sad, yet according to the government it's okay. Our largest river system, the Murray-Darling runs through three states and is a complete shitfight of a politcal mess - no one wants to give an inch.
Sydney nearly ran out of water last year because of a lack of rainfall, our largest damn was down to 37% despite their being Level 3 (quite harsh) water restrictions in place across the state & in the city. We were saved by rain, another quarter like it had been and lord knows what would have happened. I can't even image what would happen to a metropolis of several million with no water.
When I say no outlay, I was meaning in comparison to the private option.
Also, healthcare in Australia has little to do with income tax. It's actually based on a levy - the more you earn the more you pay.
You then have the option to also, in addition to this, take out private health insurance. Which when earning $150,000 plus can reduce your levy.
So, if Person A pays a $500 levy and Person B pays a $500 levy they are on equal footing.
Then if Person A has heart surgery and goes public his outlay is zero, whereas Person B has heart surgery and goes private, his outlay may be in excess of $30,000 depending upon his private health fund and it's limitations.
The advantage of a public health system is it increases public health versus some implementations of pay-as-you-go and a healthier public directly equates to a healthier economy.
If you ask most Australian's what they earn they'll be able to tell you pre-tax, super & post-tax. We're quite literate when it comes to taxation, yet sadly some people still fall into the trap of bells & whistles for votes.
Whilst the tragedy of the commons may apply to some degree there is only so much incentive to go to the doctor with a fake illness - most people have better things to do. I don't know anyone who abuses our system.
There was a big campaign to oust him over the Iraq War, but alas, he got voted back in after that. Even after lying about it. Howard has also broken various international laws (this may be a good read for you, one aspect of the racist campaign he ran "fear the foreign people" basically, whilst breaking international law by preventing a recuse vessel from using the nearest port The Tampa Affair).
Howard was undone by making the majority of working Australian's jobs turn from secure to insecure.
Previously a full time permanent job was all but bullet proof short of you underperforming or a company going bust. He changed that to be that companies can fire people without giving a reason and don't have to pay them redundancy payments either when they do it! That was the nail in his coffin. Not sure if the debarcle got much media attention internationally though.
His stance that global warming was 'nonsense' didn't really help him much either. He was also refusing to sign the Kyoto agreement in a time when the average Australia was becoming environmentally conscious and learning all about what damage the support systems to our lifestyles are doing to our planet.
We have private complementary health insurance here as well which is also partially subsidised by the government (a ridiculous proposition put in by the Liberals (read: conservatives) to win votes) a considerable amount of people have taken up the complementary health insurance as you get tax breaks for doing so if you are a high income earner but in a lot of cases your are not any better of as you are often in the same hospital with the same doctors, only you're paying hefty bills & foot a hefty excess whereas the patient in the bed next door pays zip.
I think some of the biggest problems with health care and utilities arise purely from the fact that they become a political hot potatoes and the currently democratic process both here & world wide (USA/UK/etc) is set up to favour the present not the future.
If party XYZ completely fucks up, it is largely inconsequential and time just moves on, John Howard was only finally voted out here after completely destroying our workplace laws costing many people their jobs and was also, in a manner of speaking, corrupt - he routinely lied to the voting public whilst lining the pockets of groups whose votes he needed.
We have a motorised wooded shutter over our glass skylight. They work similiar to a roll up garage door, they are slated of wood which when "open" are rolled up into a cylinder (below the roof so it's not visible) then when "closed" they form a solid wooden surface which absorbs hail stone & fallen debris blows better than a run of the mill blockout steel roller shutter which would typically deform and/or buckle under similiar loads.
They come in the poor man's windy handle version in addition to the lazy man's motorised version.
My insurer covers panels automatically in it's storm damage cover. Might be worth shopping around depending on your countries offerings.
Yup, and the voting public seem to fall for it every single time. Either by not caring, or by caring yet not having the attention span to remember about it when they are in the polling booth.
I think the poster was referring to being more involved as in an accountant working full time as an accountant can still be involved in the production and usage of the food he consumes by having a pair of chickens who provide eggs for breakfast (and make great pets!).
But then, I could be wrong, perhaps he was championing the idea that street sweepers become reaction controllers in nuclear power plants - if that's the case I'm moving to the sticks with a bow & arrow.
If the money supply doesn't collapse because of so called 'Energy Liberation' it will collapse later anyway.
The only reason it hasn't thus far is the huge amounts of debt creating new money supply every day. Without debt, money supply decreases and the money required to pay back debt will not exist so people will be unable to repay debt which equals collapse of the monetary system.
Who wants a working healthcare system when you can privatise it make a big budget surplus to spend on winning votes and create a huge mess that you can blame on your opposition once they're in office.
It's not like heathcare, power & water are vital services or anything...
When it first came out I thought it sounded like a dumb game and looked a bit dumb preferring instead to continue playing C&C/Warcraft - it wasn't until probably circa 2004/5 that I stumbled upon a second hand copy for $2 and a thift store that I picked it up and had a go and, well, my kids didn't seem much of me that weekend - I was a bad parent for a weekend and played all night friday, all day saturday, all night saturday and sunday morning before spending the rest of sunday with the kids, heh heh.
Whilst it seems like there's a bazillion units in TA and as if there'd be a steep learning curve it actually comes pretty naturally once you fiddle & play. the Total Annihilation Works Project also adds more units to the original game and removes others giving it more balance than the original developers ever gave it.
In a way I really want to get & play SupCom but on the other hand I'm happy with TA. But then I also don't think my little VIA C7 1.5Ghz could handle it.
SupCom has me tempted to upgrade the entire pc (although it may run on this not sure) but at the end of the day I'm happy with the Total Annihilation mods available especially the Works Project and apparently there is also a SupCom conversion although I haven't revisited its progress in 10 months or so.
If a game ever game out with all the fun of Street Rod 2 developed the engine & body modifications of Street Rod 2 further and had a sandbox world like GTA I'd be all over it like a fat kid on a cup cake though!
I still remember when I first got SR2 on my 8086 with awesome blue/white CGA graphics - I sat up all night until the wee hours of the morning playing over and over to get the dodgy shelby with dual tunnel rams!
Don't laugh but I use an ATI Rage 128 33MB SDRAM card for our families gaming needs.
Which are; - Total Annihilation - Warcraft 3 - Sim City 3000 - Monopoly 3D - Grand Theft Auto 3
I feel no need for shiny new things, I've a playstation 2 aswell with GT3/4, GTA:VC/SA, Red Faction I/II, Half Life 1 but mostly our family plays the PC and other small kids games on the PC. I'd like to come across a game with the replayability and options/depth of Total Annihilation but nothing these days has really caught my eye and been something I've "had to have".
Maybe I'm just too old for these new fangled games!
I find their public paypal statements absolutely fascinating. They claim it offers additional security for you as a buyer yet if you using paypal;
- You don't have the persons name or company name (ala Bank Deposit) - You don't have a contact point to start investigating from (ala Bank Deposit) - If they are a fraudster they aren't going to leave the funds in their paypal account which makes paypals buyer protection useless as there a tiny small print item which says if the money isn't in the account even if they find in your favour you get zippo. - Rubbing salt in your wounds, even if they find in your favour they respect the privacy of the now proven fraudulent seller and won't release their information to you.
It's laughable.
Paypal gives dodgy people protection to defraud you whereas the same people are less likely to do so via the Bank as they lack the chops to defraud a bank and generate false papers to open a fraudulent bank account and won't use their own bank account as you'd get their name. But they can like their own bank account to paypal & paypal will keep them nice and safe from you, the victim.
Whilst they currently don't have the ability to do so it's only partially true.
It is possible that they could try to rustle up via purchasing arrangements or alliances another additional 30.1% of voting stock, then all bets are off.
Having a hostile shareholder can be a very dangerous thing, even if they are a minority.
I know what you mean, as a seller it's really wonderful to be charged a listing fee, a gallery picture fee, a final value fee, a 2.4% paypal fee and then another $2 to get your money out of paypal.
Not to mention you have to also use registered post otherwise you'll automatically lose any dispute and paypal will sweep your account for price+postage regardless of the validity of the buyers dispute - A favourite of dodgy buyers here is to claim it the item was not received, if you have an express post tracking id showing it delivered paypal will still find in favour of the buyer as they only accept registered post tracking.
Result: You lose your item and the auction value + postage fees, even though you can prove it was delivered!
I don't really think they are that worried about the ACCC - when the ACCC released there draft ruling all they did was delay the changes a little, they were still going to be put in place in blatent defiance of the ACCC draft ruling and before the actual ruling was due to be released.
What I don't think they bargained for was the media coverage on the front page of the Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and Telegragh which framed the issue as if eBay were scamming their own customers - the stories were quite blunt and less than flattering of eBay Australia.
I think they cared a lot more about all the negative press and the SMH was throwing down the gauntlet pressuring the ACCC to become engaged prior to release of the final ruling - that's something no company wants. Angry media representatives do more damage that your average government pen pusher.
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Here in Canada, time-sensitive treatments are bumped forward to ensure things like cancer get tackled in time. The wait-times for less-urgent treatments tend to be very long as a consequence, but I'd argue that this is still superior to the US model, where the uninsured simply end up untreated until they end up in the emergency room.
I would say it's definitely better - I don't understand how any ethical person can stand by and say it's okay that sick people don't get help until they're almost dropping dead.
Preventative medicine is a lot cheaper than reactive, and even reactive medicine is cheaper than standing by waiting until mild knee pain turns into a complete knee reconstruction.
Australia mate.
Here's my scenario.
DAY 1: Walk into doctors with pain, describe non-specific symptoms, CT Scan + XRAY ordered.
DAY 1 + 1 Hour: CT Scan + XRAY done.
DAY 1 + 3 Hours: Pickup CT Scan + XRAY.
DAY 1 + 4 Hours: Sitting with doctor discussing results, more tests ordered.
DAY 1 + 4.5 Hours: Sitting in pathology having blood drawn.
DAY 2: MRI done (picked up in 1 hour)
DAY 2 + 3 Hours: See doctor, diagnosis formally made, referred to specialist for confirmation & surgery.
DAY 7: (little wait for specialist, he is world renowned spinal surgery & therefore a little busy) See specialist, diagnosis confirmed, given surgery dates available.
The soonest available surgery was 1 week. I took 4 weeks as although it was painful I had a family & a job I needed to organise things with and the medication whilst not solving the problem made it bearable to get on with life.
So not months and years, barely even a fortnight if I took the first available appointment. That rivals the most expensive facilities in the world really.
We don't have some sort of dodgy barely any capacity system, whilst yes, there are problems. If you need surgery you will get it. If you want a cosemetic nose job paid for by the taxpayer, well you might be waiting a little while.
Guess it depends on the chicken breed, like it does the cat breed.
I know some chickens that have very good personalities and one breed many people I know have all display moderate levels of intelligence including the marvel of toilet training and using a chicken bed in the house (ala a cat bed).
They don't really have predator or parasite problems either, but then they are wormed/etc. A domestic cat can attract the same unless you're sensible too.
You're allowed to have a gun if you're a member of a shooting club or own a sizable patch of land and need to control "wild animals" (and/or streetsigns after a night on the turps).
Yes, we're being killed by drought, more than 70% of the country is in severe drought, only the east coast cities are okay, and it's creeping in on the edges there even.
But you know what? That's just the biggest drought ever recorded. That's not climate change!
Currently there's more than a battle over water - it could be called a war. It's got all the pieces of a brewing civil war:
- Guns (People having armed standoffs over water supplies)
- State vs State Hatred (Queensland is hoarding off the flood planes daming off trillions of kilolitres which would normally flood down into NSW irrigating millions of hectres of farmland)
- Explosives (Several water control weirs have been dynamited & blown up to restore waterflow to rivers)
- Violence (confrontations & bust ups with contractors as they build water control weirs)
- Guerilla Warfare (Dynamiting of facilities at night)
- Hoarding (See QLD v NSW point above)
All beause we allow companies to buy water rights.
Here's a common situation: Joe blow owns 100 Hectares and has a well to the undergroun aquaifer. Bank5 owns 100 Hectares nearby - Bank5 can drill umteen number of wells and pump out all the underground water it likes seening as it has the money to drill numerous wells, but Joe doesn't have thousands to drill well after well and is left with no water. Joe then buys water rights for 5,000 litres from the local river. However Bank4 has paid for 400,000 litres from the river & has installed a water control weir to obtain it. Downstream there's no water left for Joe. Joe doesn't get a refund & his cows are now starving as he has no grain to because irrigation has failed & no water for them to drink.
It's sad, yet according to the government it's okay. Our largest river system, the Murray-Darling runs through three states and is a complete shitfight of a politcal mess - no one wants to give an inch.
Sydney nearly ran out of water last year because of a lack of rainfall, our largest damn was down to 37% despite their being Level 3 (quite harsh) water restrictions in place across the state & in the city. We were saved by rain, another quarter like it had been and lord knows what would have happened. I can't even image what would happen to a metropolis of several million with no water.
When I say no outlay, I was meaning in comparison to the private option.
Also, healthcare in Australia has little to do with income tax. It's actually based on a levy - the more you earn the more you pay.
You then have the option to also, in addition to this, take out private health insurance. Which when earning $150,000 plus can reduce your levy.
So, if Person A pays a $500 levy and Person B pays a $500 levy they are on equal footing.
Then if Person A has heart surgery and goes public his outlay is zero, whereas Person B has heart surgery and goes private, his outlay may be in excess of $30,000 depending upon his private health fund and it's limitations.
The advantage of a public health system is it increases public health versus some implementations of pay-as-you-go and a healthier public directly equates to a healthier economy.
If you ask most Australian's what they earn they'll be able to tell you pre-tax, super & post-tax. We're quite literate when it comes to taxation, yet sadly some people still fall into the trap of bells & whistles for votes.
Whilst the tragedy of the commons may apply to some degree there is only so much incentive to go to the doctor with a fake illness - most people have better things to do. I don't know anyone who abuses our system.
There was a big campaign to oust him over the Iraq War, but alas, he got voted back in after that. Even after lying about it. Howard has also broken various international laws (this may be a good read for you, one aspect of the racist campaign he ran "fear the foreign people" basically, whilst breaking international law by preventing a recuse vessel from using the nearest port The Tampa Affair).
Howard was undone by making the majority of working Australian's jobs turn from secure to insecure.
Previously a full time permanent job was all but bullet proof short of you underperforming or a company going bust. He changed that to be that companies can fire people without giving a reason and don't have to pay them redundancy payments either when they do it! That was the nail in his coffin. Not sure if the debarcle got much media attention internationally though.
His stance that global warming was 'nonsense' didn't really help him much either. He was also refusing to sign the Kyoto agreement in a time when the average Australia was becoming environmentally conscious and learning all about what damage the support systems to our lifestyles are doing to our planet.
I'm "down under" in Australia.
We have private complementary health insurance here as well which is also partially subsidised by the government (a ridiculous proposition put in by the Liberals (read: conservatives) to win votes) a considerable amount of people have taken up the complementary health insurance as you get tax breaks for doing so if you are a high income earner but in a lot of cases your are not any better of as you are often in the same hospital with the same doctors, only you're paying hefty bills & foot a hefty excess whereas the patient in the bed next door pays zip.
I think some of the biggest problems with health care and utilities arise purely from the fact that they become a political hot potatoes and the currently democratic process both here & world wide (USA/UK/etc) is set up to favour the present not the future.
If party XYZ completely fucks up, it is largely inconsequential and time just moves on, John Howard was only finally voted out here after completely destroying our workplace laws costing many people their jobs and was also, in a manner of speaking, corrupt - he routinely lied to the voting public whilst lining the pockets of groups whose votes he needed.
Well, those who want good healthcare I guess.
We have a "socialised" healthcare system here.
I can have extensive spinal surgery for $0 outlay.
My wife has had our two children in her very own private room for $0 outlay.
It may not be perfect, but I feel it's a heck of a lot better than the mess that's the USA healthcare system.
We have a motorised wooded shutter over our glass skylight. They work similiar to a roll up garage door, they are slated of wood which when "open" are rolled up into a cylinder (below the roof so it's not visible) then when "closed" they form a solid wooden surface which absorbs hail stone & fallen debris blows better than a run of the mill blockout steel roller shutter which would typically deform and/or buckle under similiar loads.
They come in the poor man's windy handle version in addition to the lazy man's motorised version.
My insurer covers panels automatically in it's storm damage cover. Might be worth shopping around depending on your countries offerings.
Yup, and the voting public seem to fall for it every single time. Either by not caring, or by caring yet not having the attention span to remember about it when they are in the polling booth.
I think the poster was referring to being more involved as in an accountant working full time as an accountant can still be involved in the production and usage of the food he consumes by having a pair of chickens who provide eggs for breakfast (and make great pets!).
But then, I could be wrong, perhaps he was championing the idea that street sweepers become reaction controllers in nuclear power plants - if that's the case I'm moving to the sticks with a bow & arrow.
Meet your two new friends:
1. Wooden fold over storm shutters.
2. Building insurance with panel coverage.
You can build your own DC-DC voltage stepdown relatively easy, an example of such homebrew plans would be here.
You can also buy cheap in/out black plastic blobs & boxes too.
If the money supply doesn't collapse because of so called 'Energy Liberation' it will collapse later anyway.
The only reason it hasn't thus far is the huge amounts of debt creating new money supply every day. Without debt, money supply decreases and the money required to pay back debt will not exist so people will be unable to repay debt which equals collapse of the monetary system.
Geez, what are you, some sort of communist?!
Who wants a working healthcare system when you can privatise it make a big budget surplus to spend on winning votes and create a huge mess that you can blame on your opposition once they're in office.
It's not like heathcare, power & water are vital services or anything...
When it first came out I thought it sounded like a dumb game and looked a bit dumb preferring instead to continue playing C&C/Warcraft - it wasn't until probably circa 2004/5 that I stumbled upon a second hand copy for $2 and a thift store that I picked it up and had a go and, well, my kids didn't seem much of me that weekend - I was a bad parent for a weekend and played all night friday, all day saturday, all night saturday and sunday morning before spending the rest of sunday with the kids, heh heh.
Whilst it seems like there's a bazillion units in TA and as if there'd be a steep learning curve it actually comes pretty naturally once you fiddle & play. the Total Annihilation Works Project also adds more units to the original game and removes others giving it more balance than the original developers ever gave it.
In a way I really want to get & play SupCom but on the other hand I'm happy with TA. But then I also don't think my little VIA C7 1.5Ghz could handle it.
SupCom has me tempted to upgrade the entire pc (although it may run on this not sure) but at the end of the day I'm happy with the Total Annihilation mods available especially the Works Project and apparently there is also a SupCom conversion although I haven't revisited its progress in 10 months or so.
If a game ever game out with all the fun of Street Rod 2 developed the engine & body modifications of Street Rod 2 further and had a sandbox world like GTA I'd be all over it like a fat kid on a cup cake though!
I still remember when I first got SR2 on my 8086 with awesome blue/white CGA graphics - I sat up all night until the wee hours of the morning playing over and over to get the dodgy shelby with dual tunnel rams!
Don't laugh but I use an ATI Rage 128 33MB SDRAM card for our families gaming needs.
Which are;
- Total Annihilation
- Warcraft 3
- Sim City 3000
- Monopoly 3D
- Grand Theft Auto 3
I feel no need for shiny new things, I've a playstation 2 aswell with GT3/4, GTA:VC/SA, Red Faction I/II, Half Life 1 but mostly our family plays the PC and other small kids games on the PC. I'd like to come across a game with the replayability and options/depth of Total Annihilation but nothing these days has really caught my eye and been something I've "had to have".
Maybe I'm just too old for these new fangled games!
I find their public paypal statements absolutely fascinating. They claim it offers additional security for you as a buyer yet if you using paypal;
- You don't have the persons name or company name (ala Bank Deposit)
- You don't have a contact point to start investigating from (ala Bank Deposit)
- If they are a fraudster they aren't going to leave the funds in their paypal account which makes paypals buyer protection useless as there a tiny small print item which says if the money isn't in the account even if they find in your favour you get zippo.
- Rubbing salt in your wounds, even if they find in your favour they respect the privacy of the now proven fraudulent seller and won't release their information to you.
It's laughable.
Paypal gives dodgy people protection to defraud you whereas the same people are less likely to do so via the Bank as they lack the chops to defraud a bank and generate false papers to open a fraudulent bank account and won't use their own bank account as you'd get their name. But they can like their own bank account to paypal & paypal will keep them nice and safe from you, the victim.
Whilst they currently don't have the ability to do so it's only partially true.
It is possible that they could try to rustle up via purchasing arrangements or alliances another additional 30.1% of voting stock, then all bets are off.
Having a hostile shareholder can be a very dangerous thing, even if they are a minority.
Our local ebay alternative www.oztion.com.au does this and it works well. If people try and snipe the auction is extended to give the others a chance.
Shame it doesn't work so well for those who are at work or what not however.
I know what you mean, as a seller it's really wonderful to be charged a listing fee, a gallery picture fee, a final value fee, a 2.4% paypal fee and then another $2 to get your money out of paypal.
Not to mention you have to also use registered post otherwise you'll automatically lose any dispute and paypal will sweep your account for price+postage regardless of the validity of the buyers dispute - A favourite of dodgy buyers here is to claim it the item was not received, if you have an express post tracking id showing it delivered paypal will still find in favour of the buyer as they only accept registered post tracking.
Result: You lose your item and the auction value + postage fees, even though you can prove it was delivered!
I don't really think they are that worried about the ACCC - when the ACCC released there draft ruling all they did was delay the changes a little, they were still going to be put in place in blatent defiance of the ACCC draft ruling and before the actual ruling was due to be released.
What I don't think they bargained for was the media coverage on the front page of the Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and Telegragh which framed the issue as if eBay were scamming their own customers - the stories were quite blunt and less than flattering of eBay Australia.
I think they cared a lot more about all the negative press and the SMH was throwing down the gauntlet pressuring the ACCC to become engaged prior to release of the final ruling - that's something no company wants. Angry media representatives do more damage that your average government pen pusher.