i've mentioned this before, whenever the phrase "artificial" intelligence comes up. the problem is not with quotes AI quotes, it's with *us humans*. just look at the two words "artificial" combined with the word "intelligence". it is SHEER ARROGANCE on our part to declare that intelligence - such an amazing concept - can be *artificial*. as in "not really real". as in "beneath us". as in "objective and thus subject to our manipulation and enslavement".
I would have to dispute your definition of artificial as being somehow "not really real". If you use the original meaning, ie. the product of an artisan, or a crafted object, then it makes complete sense. We are talking about intelligence that is designed and built, rather than having developed naturally. Artifacts are still real things.
And yet, if you are worried about lowering co2, the smart money would be to focus on either the largest, which is china with 33-43% , or better yet, ALL nations. In addition, since co2 comes mostly from business and gov choices and uses, and not directly from ppl, it makes far more sense to normalize based on emissions / GDP, not per capita.
27% according to what I read, not 43%. I'm sure they are producing more now than 4 years ago, although I also know that China's past emissions have been over-estimated due to the fact that the coal mined there is of a poorer quality than average. On the subject of how to normalize measurement of emissions, doing it by GDP could be useful for some purposes, but most certainly not for any attempt at limiting emissions. When GPD/capita is so closely tied to CO2/capita, attempting to limit emissions based on GDP is essentially limiting people's right to make money based on how much money they make.
You realize the U.S. is ~4.5% of the population... right?
Even if we went completely arboreal, and genetically engineered our children to have green skin and photosynthesize, it really wouldn't change the vector, regardless of which side you are on, and which way you think it points.
Fix the problems in China and India first. While you are at it, fix the brush fires from lightning in Africa, which account for about 26.3% of annual CO2 being dumped into the atmosphere.
Bushfires are part of the natural carbon cycle, that carbon was all already in the biosphere, and will become a part of vegetative matter again when the plants regrow. The CO2 the US produces is mostly from fossil fuels, which are not currently part of the active carbon cycle, unless you count time on long geological scales. Furthermore, the US is ~17% of global output. The disparity between population size and current pollution output is worrying, not just because of the magnitude, but moreso because others, like China, will seek to attain the same lifestyle. If China overnight became as large a per capita CO2 emitter as the US, global output would increase by around 30%. (Based on rough figures found by googling, page I saw had 2011 data). Given the standard of living in much of India, them aspiring to a carbon based US-level lifestyle would be even worse.
Not true - Germany is totally capitalist, but lacking any other resources they are harvesting brains.
Really? Have a look at page 5 of this. With a population of ~25% of the US, Germany produces 49% as much steel, or about twice as much per capita compared to the US. First resource that popped into my head, and probably the one Germany is most famous for, so other examples might not be so impressive, but... Germany does produce stuff. It is the beating heart of a first world economy with a population 3 times that of the US. Saying it is without resources is absurd.
Also widely known of in recent history. A lot of Ethiopean Jews were evacuated to Israel after the state's post WWII formation. Unfortunately, they still experienced many similar difficulties with life in a different culture to black people in America, with widespread racism and discrimination despite being a faithful part of the most persecuted religion, and being brought to its centre to save them from persecution elsewhere.
I think any surprise voiced by archaeologists might be an unconscious echo of some of the rather racist "pirate" comments further up in this thread. People only trade with someone who has something of value to them, and despite knowing that that Ethiopia was once one of the great nations of the world, people will doubtless still think in terms of the poverty stricken, warlord ruled, lawless, desolate warzone it is today.
The financing of campaigns is quite controversial, are you suggesting our legal graft set up is the best way to go?
Not at all, political financing in America is certainly out of hand. However, that is a matter of legislation rather than constitution, and also only matters to the degree that people believe what they see on their television sets. I think the big problem in the US is mental laziness; people are willing to be told what to think, as long as they feel they are doing better than somebody else.
Your parent post's point was almost meaningless. The US's per capita co2 production may be falling, but not fast enough. I live in a country where we would be near the top of the scale, if you look at co2 production per capita on a global scale. It it about half that of the US co2 per capita.
Or they spend many hours researching them and have come to the logical conclusion that it doesn't matter who you vote for, they're all just slightly different flavors of the same poison.
We need to burn the existing system to the ground and rebuild it. It's the only way to put us back on the right path.
The system you have is perfectly adequate, it is just that people don't have the required patience to use it. The obvious current flaw is a lack of additional political parties at the federal level. This can be rectified, but would have to take place gradually over the span of many electoral cycles, as most people will subscibe to the "better the devil you know" notion.
They're after the double Irish with a Dutch Sandwich.
It's about money. Not "our valued customer's security" or other bullshit.
They don't need servers here to funnel profits through the country, they can do that easily enough with dodgy licensing subsidiaries and some accounting sleight of hand in an office of 2 people.
The "coming entitlement generation" has been on its way since at least the late 1980s when it was supposedly my cohort...and probably much, much longer.
Those articles started to appear in the 1880's. Every upcoming generation has been described as some sort of variant of entitled, lazy or "me first". It's the "get off my lawn" version of a newspaper editorial.
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.” - Socrates
Agreed. I turned off AV on one of my machines about 2 years ago while troubleshooting problems I was having. I forgot to re-enable it and picked up some random crap via drive-by install from web browsing within a few days.
The evolutionists used to say that human intelligence could be explained by evolutionary process of natural selection, and they made no reference to viruses
The article has nothing to do with natural selection. There are two main components to evolution, mutation and natural selection. Natural selection is the description given to processes that determine what mutations remain in the gene pool, and what ones die out due to giving a poorer chance of survival and/or reproduction. The article here is about the mutation side of evolution.
but really, such a creature would more likely be what's commonly called a "civilization".
RTFA?
"Which is to say, what astronomers may have taken to be two massive balls of plasma locked in a gravitational embrace could actually be a very large, very hungry civilization devouring a hapless star."
I think you missed the point there. Low O2 was the norm until the Cambrian explosion. They are suggesting that higher O2 sparked the explosion, as it opened up new ways for plant and animals to metabolize.
Now who's trying to sound smart. The fragmentation of neanderthal DNA strings in modern genomes is chaotic, because of repeated mixture of genomes with differing amounts of aforementioned genes, and with varying numbers of generations since it's introduction. The article even states that the timeframe for the introduction of neanderthal genes into this individuals genetic makeup is more accurately defineable than is possible for modern humans.
A superior education system... for a country which mysteriously produces a tiny fraction of the R&D that the US does?
Tell me, why is that that almost all the big and great inventions come from people working the in United States?
Firstly, Sweden has a tiny fraction of the population of the US. Secondly, I note you said people working the in United States, not people educated in the United States.
Now, what's left is to determine, that the 7.38 vs. 8.02 difference is thanks to, rather than despite of their taxes being higher — rather than, say, those demography, social and cultural characteristics
You obviously misunderstand. Their higher taxes are a result of those different social and cultural characteristics, as also is their better quality of life.
Are more interested in discovering new things or proving old things wrong, than trying to make friends with everyone.
That is quite possible. However, I would like to point out that scientists are rated as some of the friendliest, or warmest, people. If you look at the diagram in the article, it lists about 45 jobs (I wasn't too careful counting). Scientists appear to be in 13th place.
Slashdot Mirror
i've mentioned this before, whenever the phrase "artificial" intelligence comes up. the problem is not with quotes AI quotes, it's with *us humans*. just look at the two words "artificial" combined with the word "intelligence". it is SHEER ARROGANCE on our part to declare that intelligence - such an amazing concept - can be *artificial*. as in "not really real". as in "beneath us". as in "objective and thus subject to our manipulation and enslavement".
I would have to dispute your definition of artificial as being somehow "not really real". If you use the original meaning, ie. the product of an artisan, or a crafted object, then it makes complete sense. We are talking about intelligence that is designed and built, rather than having developed naturally. Artifacts are still real things.
Everything stops growing. You did.
Upwards, at least.
And yet, if you are worried about lowering co2, the smart money would be to focus on either the largest, which is china with 33-43% , or better yet, ALL nations. In addition, since co2 comes mostly from business and gov choices and uses, and not directly from ppl, it makes far more sense to normalize based on emissions / GDP, not per capita.
27% according to what I read, not 43%. I'm sure they are producing more now than 4 years ago, although I also know that China's past emissions have been over-estimated due to the fact that the coal mined there is of a poorer quality than average. On the subject of how to normalize measurement of emissions, doing it by GDP could be useful for some purposes, but most certainly not for any attempt at limiting emissions. When GPD/capita is so closely tied to CO2/capita, attempting to limit emissions based on GDP is essentially limiting people's right to make money based on how much money they make.
You realize the U.S. is ~4.5% of the population... right?
Even if we went completely arboreal, and genetically engineered our children to have green skin and photosynthesize, it really wouldn't change the vector, regardless of which side you are on, and which way you think it points.
Fix the problems in China and India first. While you are at it, fix the brush fires from lightning in Africa, which account for about 26.3% of annual CO2 being dumped into the atmosphere.
Bushfires are part of the natural carbon cycle, that carbon was all already in the biosphere, and will become a part of vegetative matter again when the plants regrow. The CO2 the US produces is mostly from fossil fuels, which are not currently part of the active carbon cycle, unless you count time on long geological scales. Furthermore, the US is ~17% of global output. The disparity between population size and current pollution output is worrying, not just because of the magnitude, but moreso because others, like China, will seek to attain the same lifestyle. If China overnight became as large a per capita CO2 emitter as the US, global output would increase by around 30%. (Based on rough figures found by googling, page I saw had 2011 data). Given the standard of living in much of India, them aspiring to a carbon based US-level lifestyle would be even worse.
Not all of those 90% were innocent bystanders. These numbers are meaningless without knowing the full statistics.
We should check the court records to see how many were convicted before being blown up.
Not true - Germany is totally capitalist, but lacking any other resources they are harvesting brains.
Really? Have a look at page 5 of this. With a population of ~25% of the US, Germany produces 49% as much steel, or about twice as much per capita compared to the US. First resource that popped into my head, and probably the one Germany is most famous for, so other examples might not be so impressive, but... Germany does produce stuff. It is the beating heart of a first world economy with a population 3 times that of the US. Saying it is without resources is absurd.
Also widely known of in recent history. A lot of Ethiopean Jews were evacuated to Israel after the state's post WWII formation. Unfortunately, they still experienced many similar difficulties with life in a different culture to black people in America, with widespread racism and discrimination despite being a faithful part of the most persecuted religion, and being brought to its centre to save them from persecution elsewhere.
I think any surprise voiced by archaeologists might be an unconscious echo of some of the rather racist "pirate" comments further up in this thread. People only trade with someone who has something of value to them, and despite knowing that that Ethiopia was once one of the great nations of the world, people will doubtless still think in terms of the poverty stricken, warlord ruled, lawless, desolate warzone it is today.
The financing of campaigns is quite controversial, are you suggesting our legal graft set up is the best way to go?
Not at all, political financing in America is certainly out of hand. However, that is a matter of legislation rather than constitution, and also only matters to the degree that people believe what they see on their television sets. I think the big problem in the US is mental laziness; people are willing to be told what to think, as long as they feel they are doing better than somebody else.
Was parent modded down due to lack of citation? Maybe they were referring to this? http://www.prb.org/Publication...
Your parent post's point was almost meaningless. The US's per capita co2 production may be falling, but not fast enough. I live in a country where we would be near the top of the scale, if you look at co2 production per capita on a global scale. It it about half that of the US co2 per capita.
Or they spend many hours researching them and have come to the logical conclusion that it doesn't matter who you vote for, they're all just slightly different flavors of the same poison.
We need to burn the existing system to the ground and rebuild it. It's the only way to put us back on the right path.
The system you have is perfectly adequate, it is just that people don't have the required patience to use it. The obvious current flaw is a lack of additional political parties at the federal level. This can be rectified, but would have to take place gradually over the span of many electoral cycles, as most people will subscibe to the "better the devil you know" notion.
They're after the double Irish with a Dutch Sandwich.
It's about money. Not "our valued customer's security" or other bullshit.
They don't need servers here to funnel profits through the country, they can do that easily enough with dodgy licensing subsidiaries and some accounting sleight of hand in an office of 2 people.
The "coming entitlement generation" has been on its way since at least the late 1980s when it was supposedly my cohort...and probably much, much longer.
Those articles started to appear in the 1880's. Every upcoming generation has been described as some sort of variant of entitled, lazy or "me first". It's the "get off my lawn" version of a newspaper editorial.
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.” - Socrates
If you don't know where to start, try something like Kali. Have a play around with Metasploit as well.
Agreed. I turned off AV on one of my machines about 2 years ago while troubleshooting problems I was having. I forgot to re-enable it and picked up some random crap via drive-by install from web browsing within a few days.
The evolutionists used to say that human intelligence could be explained by evolutionary process of natural selection, and they made no reference to viruses
The article has nothing to do with natural selection. There are two main components to evolution, mutation and natural selection. Natural selection is the description given to processes that determine what mutations remain in the gene pool, and what ones die out due to giving a poorer chance of survival and/or reproduction. The article here is about the mutation side of evolution.
but really, such a creature would more likely be what's commonly called a "civilization".
RTFA?
"Which is to say, what astronomers may have taken to be two massive balls of plasma locked in a gravitational embrace could actually be a very large, very hungry civilization devouring a hapless star."
There is no conclusive evidence that scientific research on animals yields meaningful results for human welfare.
We need more research on animals to test this.
I think you missed the point there. Low O2 was the norm until the Cambrian explosion. They are suggesting that higher O2 sparked the explosion, as it opened up new ways for plant and animals to metabolize.
Now who's trying to sound smart. The fragmentation of neanderthal DNA strings in modern genomes is chaotic, because of repeated mixture of genomes with differing amounts of aforementioned genes, and with varying numbers of generations since it's introduction. The article even states that the timeframe for the introduction of neanderthal genes into this individuals genetic makeup is more accurately defineable than is possible for modern humans.
Homo sapiens neanderthalensis is also a classification used by some.
A superior education system... for a country which mysteriously produces a tiny fraction of the R&D that the US does? Tell me, why is that that almost all the big and great inventions come from people working the in United States?
Firstly, Sweden has a tiny fraction of the population of the US. Secondly, I note you said people working the in United States, not people educated in the United States.
Now, what's left is to determine, that the 7.38 vs. 8.02 difference is thanks to, rather than despite of their taxes being higher — rather than, say, those demography, social and cultural characteristics
You obviously misunderstand. Their higher taxes are a result of those different social and cultural characteristics, as also is their better quality of life.
Are more interested in discovering new things or proving old things wrong, than trying to make friends with everyone.
That is quite possible. However, I would like to point out that scientists are rated as some of the friendliest, or warmest, people. If you look at the diagram in the article, it lists about 45 jobs (I wasn't too careful counting). Scientists appear to be in 13th place.
In Italy, mostly a region in the north. Here's a wikipedia link, I'm sure there's better information elsewhere. Venetian nationalism