Konqueror 2.2 has an option to use the same process, for launching multiple brower.
So on my computer, its start-up time is about 10 seconde for the first window but only about 3 seconde for the next windows.
Oh and you can also start with a blank page instead of the "help page for konqueror".
The article doesn't say which release of Konqueror he is using though.
And with KDE 2.2.1 , I expect that the problem with the symbol relocation of shared libraries will be finally solved, right now the "solution/hack" is a bit flaky (cause problem with javascript).
Ruby is using mix-in instead of multiple inheritance and they claim that it is able to do 90% of what multiple inheritance provide..
It may or may not be interesting for compiled language though.
I disagree about the macro point: the problem with macros is that they more or less "hide" the real program..
I agree that one of the weak point of GC is that you don't really control when the object are deleted. But it isn't very easy to mix "scoped object" and GC-able object: what if you assign a reference to a "scoped object" inside a GC-able object?
Ocaml is nice because it is nearly as efficient as C which is a VERY impressive feat, but it "looks" really,really bad IMHO.
I would prefer a Ruby-like language with the same performances as Ocaml..
I'm not a Java zealot at all, au contraire:
- I hate the speed of Java and the number of bugs in the API.
- I liked Swing API but its slowness was unbearable.
But you're overlooking simple explanation why the Java UI is so slow:
1) Java can be as fast as C++: I doubt it very much (except for two linersw) but anyway this require "clever" programming IMHO.
So maybe there haven't been enough effort spent on trying to speed Java's UI..
2) the native compiled code can use the hardware acceleration of the video card: a big help!
Of course Java cannot (could not?) use hardware acceleration..
I heard that the future release Java 1.4 will be able to use some hardware acceleration, maybe it'll help..
For those who ask, no I haven't tested the beta of Java 1.4, "stable" Java librairies are (were?) buggy enough that I won't bother trying a beta.
You know when you get higher the bombs won't get any faster.
When an object is dropped from a plane, it accelerates first at about 10 m/s-2 then as its speeds increase, the friction with the air increase.. So it accelerates until a certain speed limit that's all.
It takes about 500 meters for a skydiver to reach its speed limit.. So you don't gain anything by going higher.
Yes, if you go higher the air pressure is lower so at the beginning the speed of the bomb is higher, but as it goes down, the air pressure increase and the bomb slows down.
I don't want to make "bad publicity" so I won't name the HOW-TO but it is someone who took the first version of your HOW-TO and translated it in French, the first version had a bug, you corrected it but the translated version wasn't updated..
I know at least two translation in French of your HOW-TO, one was updated and the other wasn't. Murphy law made me stumble on the one which wasn't updated of course.
I'm VERY grateful for your HOW-TO, it is very nice, thanks again!
And I agree:the guys at the UK forum ADSL guide are really helpfull and I try to give advice there whenever I think I could help.
They helped me when I needed help: I give back:-).
Buy a GeForce with its closed source driver?
Something which is very much against the spirit of OpenSource..
Or buy a Radeon?
Or buy a card with poor 3D performances? Or a 3DFx card with no future?
My fault perhaps, but frankly the other choices are not very "inspiring".
Oh BTW I want to upgrade my PC.
The Athlon 1.2 GHz seems to have the best performance/price ratio, nice.
Which motherboard should I buy? DDR or SDRAM?
The fun begins I know that there is some bugs with VIA chipset under Linux, oops I want to have a stable PC thank you, so I look for informations the Linux Hardware Database do NOT talk about buggy VIA chipset even if I know there are some problems, it doesn't talk neither about motherboard with the AMD 760 chipset (too new I guess).
So OK, you have to check the compatibility: sorry but it ISN'T SIMPLE !
After having being bitten by a buggy HOW-TO (having problem setting up an ADSL connexion is not fun: I had to reboot to Windows each time I failed, to try to get additional informations), I sent an e-mail to the author of the webpage.
The e-mail was something like that: Thanks for the HOW-TO, oh BTW I found such and such bugs in the HOW-TO it should be like this and like that.
The webpage was NOT updated:-(
I can't really blame him, because nobody pay him to maintain its webpage. Even if IMHO a buggy HOW-TO is "worse" than no HOW-TO at all.
Eventually, good information became available, but it remains that saying that Linux is better than Windows for hardware compatibility is plain wrong: when you buy new material, usually you want to buy the 'latest and greatest' of course, something that is risky with Linux..
It is not Linux community's fault of course, but until Linux has a much bigger market share, it will remain that way..
Well you know until the apps work the system is just twiddling it thumb so yes the system is useless.
My experience: do not use Linux with "too new" hardware: I have a Radeon and an Alcatel ADSL modem on USB.
Radeon: On Linux, I did have to wait that XFree4.1 get out before being able to make it work and had to upgrade my kernel also. Had to compile agpart in the kernel, as a module it doesn't work.
Windows: half a day to upgrade the card, the old card couldn't be removed properly.
Both were painfull, but Linux is definitely worse.
The ADSL USB Modem of Alcatel, THREE f***** week to set it up correctly on Linux, buggy or incomplete HOW-TO etc,etc, had to learn how to recompile a kernel which took me quite some time: I had Grub installed not Lilo (works better with ReiserFs) and 99% of the documentation is for Lilo, not for Grub..
At first I used the Alcatel driver which is quite buggy and unsupported now I use Benoit Pappillaud's GPL driver which is really nice.
On Windows it was a snap..
Winner: Windows.
Linux is getting better but will it be as easy as Windows? I doubt about it, why?
Well hardware makers only provide well-tested drivers for Windows, their support of Linux is quite poor if there is some, of course the Linux community helps here, but I wouldn't advise someone to buy "too new" hardware if he wants to use Linux..
And no, this is not a troll, just my own experience, Linux stability is much better than Windows98 which is why I use it, but this advantage will diminish when Windows XP will be released..
You did forget that Greeks olympiades had also some poetry contest.
So who is valuing more the mind?
The Greeks or us?
Kind of showing the things in a different light, don't you think?
PS:
I happen to be against the chess included in the Olympiade Games, because I think that there is a lot of sports who should come before chess playing (skydiving for example) but it is just my opinion.
I've read about this article a few days ago, and quickly forgot it..
No matter how you slice it, if you look only at the numbers, you'd go with Microsoft, because they OWN the mass market right now.
And "future predictions" are as reliable as astrology.
To summarize, I don't like those kind of "stupid marketing" articles, be they for or against Linux.
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I would say that "scripting language" have a real difference in the "little programs".
A C program under 100 lines length is "nearly empty", a Perl script under 100 lines can be quite powerfull under typical usage (obfuscated usage doesn't count).
Very few language succeed..
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Think about Eiffel,Ada, Modula functionnal languages etc.
There are MANY languages and very few are widely used..
The "scripting language niche" is quite already filled by Perl and Python..
IMHO Ruby is more readable than Perl (not difficult!) but it competes head to head against Python, and there are many more Python users than Ruby users..
I would say that the odds are against Ruby, we'll see..
This "ministre de la culture" isn't anymore at the governement and yes he made a law to protect the French.
But frankly French couldn't care less about this kind of stupid stuff so this law isn't very enforced.
Except for the radios where there is a quota of French songs but here there are money interests..
I don't know much about dkpg, but everytimes I hear about it users seems very positive, I can't say so about urpmi.
I'm using Mandrake 8.0, I've update quite a few packages from Mandrake's Cooker and now my systems doesn't work very well: I have to tell it twice otherwise it won't shutdown, I can't hear music anymore, etc...
But who is the culprit urpmi or the packages?
It's hard to tell!
BTW I'm currently trying to uprade urpmi to see if it will works better: no luck urpmi downloads everything then I get "Installation failed" the file "XXX.rpm" doesn't exist even if I see that the file was previously downloaded! Aaaarrrggg...
I can probably fix all these problem, but it is going to cost me a lot of time and I'm tired of always fixing something in the Linux/Mandrake configuration.. Maybe I'm ready for Debian..
You said:"A couple of other anti-snobby analogies:
If it weren't for companies like McDonald's, millions of people would be malnourished, having no time and too little money to feed themselves in the few minutes they have between their two jobs"
I find this especially funny, I believe that Americans are among the fatest people on average..
If you don't call this malnourished, I don't know what it is..
And yes, I believe that the "fast-food" is (partly) responsible for the overweight.
OK, I shouldn't find it funny, because being too fat can be a real problem (psychologicaly and physically), but you're comparison was so absurd that it made me smile.
The "if Motorola was the leader" worth nothing: if the history was different we DON'T know what it would have been.
The only thing sure is that we would have the 68xxx ISA which is MUCH more "beautiful" than the ugly 80x86 ISA.
While he is a bit offensive, he has some points though:
- in the articles, they said they have designed the "low voltage" MEMS: they haven't built it.
So for now, wait and see, but it is really too early to say if it has potential..
- the poster REALLY looks stupid when he says MEMS and "no moving parts" in the same sentence!
For the SDR, remember than antenna is only one part of the game, if you want truly versatile software radio, you need also huge computing power!
So at the beginning, I think that SDR will go first into the Base Station, much more earlier than into the handset!
In fact SDR is possible technically in the BS NOW, but the computing power needed is too expensive to be economically interesting.
Give Moore law some time, and you will see SDR into the BS..
50% of the French own a cellular phone and it is still growing..
But WAP is currently a big failure: only a few percent of the phone are WAP enabled, and only a few percent of those who own a WAP-enabled phone use it..
Why? Big connecting time, slow connection, price (you pay for the time you use the service), small screen, few interesting services.
GPRS will start quite soon, it is going to have always-on connection and a different pricing model: you pay for the amount of data not the connection time.
It will still have slow connections (at least at the beginning) though.
I don't know if it will be a success or not, wait and see..
Frankly I really liked Alan Cox's reply: it is very sound, clear.
You can see it
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I'm wondering: with Windows XP would it be possible to have some partition in NTFS and another one in FAT32 in order to share informations between Linux and Windows (dual boot)?
But as they're still producing machines, you could say that there still in operation, I think.
I worked with one, and while it was not very powerfull and quite expensive, the way they upgraded CPU was really nice: take out one card, replace with another with the newer CPU, wait until the LED says everything is OK. Do the same with the other card.
It's done! No interruption whatsoever! Nice..
On a related subject, I'm color blind and I wish they would stop using green/red LED for visual feedback as I'm absolutely unable to tell when something goes wrong.
Once I've loose some hours to understand why there was a problem before someone told me that the hardware has a problem, GGRRR.
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Konqueror 2.2 has an option to use the same process, for launching multiple brower.
So on my computer, its start-up time is about 10 seconde for the first window but only about 3 seconde for the next windows.
Oh and you can also start with a blank page instead of the "help page for konqueror".
The article doesn't say which release of Konqueror he is using though.
And with KDE 2.2.1 , I expect that the problem with the symbol relocation of shared libraries will be finally solved, right now the "solution/hack" is a bit flaky (cause problem with javascript).
Ruby is using mix-in instead of multiple inheritance and they claim that it is able to do 90% of what multiple inheritance provide..
It may or may not be interesting for compiled language though.
I disagree about the macro point: the problem with macros is that they more or less "hide" the real program..
I agree that one of the weak point of GC is that you don't really control when the object are deleted. But it isn't very easy to mix "scoped object" and GC-able object: what if you assign a reference to a "scoped object" inside a GC-able object?
Ocaml is nice because it is nearly as efficient as C which is a VERY impressive feat, but it "looks" really,really bad IMHO.
I would prefer a Ruby-like language with the same performances as Ocaml..
I'm not a Java zealot at all, au contraire:
- I hate the speed of Java and the number of bugs in the API.
- I liked Swing API but its slowness was unbearable.
But you're overlooking simple explanation why the Java UI is so slow:
1) Java can be as fast as C++: I doubt it very much (except for two linersw) but anyway this require "clever" programming IMHO.
So maybe there haven't been enough effort spent on trying to speed Java's UI..
2) the native compiled code can use the hardware acceleration of the video card: a big help!
Of course Java cannot (could not?) use hardware acceleration..
I heard that the future release Java 1.4 will be able to use some hardware acceleration, maybe it'll help..
For those who ask, no I haven't tested the beta of Java 1.4, "stable" Java librairies are (were?) buggy enough that I won't bother trying a beta.
You know when you get higher the bombs won't get any faster.
When an object is dropped from a plane, it accelerates first at about 10 m/s-2 then as its speeds increase, the friction with the air increase.. So it accelerates until a certain speed limit that's all.
It takes about 500 meters for a skydiver to reach its speed limit.. So you don't gain anything by going higher.
Yes, if you go higher the air pressure is lower so at the beginning the speed of the bomb is higher, but as it goes down, the air pressure increase and the bomb slows down.
Please don't take it for yourself.
:-).
I don't want to make "bad publicity" so I won't name the HOW-TO but it is someone who took the first version of your HOW-TO and translated it in French, the first version had a bug, you corrected it but the translated version wasn't updated..
I know at least two translation in French of your HOW-TO, one was updated and the other wasn't. Murphy law made me stumble on the one which wasn't updated of course.
I'm VERY grateful for your HOW-TO, it is very nice, thanks again!
And I agree:the guys at the UK forum ADSL guide are really helpfull and I try to give advice there whenever I think I could help.
They helped me when I needed help: I give back
Buy a GeForce with its closed source driver?
Something which is very much against the spirit of OpenSource..
Or buy a Radeon?
Or buy a card with poor 3D performances? Or a 3DFx card with no future?
My fault perhaps, but frankly the other choices are not very "inspiring".
Oh BTW I want to upgrade my PC.
The Athlon 1.2 GHz seems to have the best performance/price ratio, nice.
Which motherboard should I buy? DDR or SDRAM?
The fun begins I know that there is some bugs with VIA chipset under Linux, oops I want to have a stable PC thank you, so I look for informations the Linux Hardware Database do NOT talk about buggy VIA chipset even if I know there are some problems, it doesn't talk neither about motherboard with the AMD 760 chipset (too new I guess).
So OK, you have to check the compatibility: sorry but it ISN'T SIMPLE !
After having being bitten by a buggy HOW-TO (having problem setting up an ADSL connexion is not fun: I had to reboot to Windows each time I failed, to try to get additional informations), I sent an e-mail to the author of the webpage.
:-(
The e-mail was something like that: Thanks for the HOW-TO, oh BTW I found such and such bugs in the HOW-TO it should be like this and like that.
The webpage was NOT updated
I can't really blame him, because nobody pay him to maintain its webpage. Even if IMHO a buggy HOW-TO is "worse" than no HOW-TO at all.
Eventually, good information became available, but it remains that saying that Linux is better than Windows for hardware compatibility is plain wrong: when you buy new material, usually you want to buy the 'latest and greatest' of course, something that is risky with Linux..
It is not Linux community's fault of course, but until Linux has a much bigger market share, it will remain that way..
Well you know until the apps work the system is just twiddling it thumb so yes the system is useless.
My experience: do not use Linux with "too new" hardware: I have a Radeon and an Alcatel ADSL modem on USB.
Radeon: On Linux, I did have to wait that XFree4.1 get out before being able to make it work and had to upgrade my kernel also. Had to compile agpart in the kernel, as a module it doesn't work.
Windows: half a day to upgrade the card, the old card couldn't be removed properly.
Both were painfull, but Linux is definitely worse.
The ADSL USB Modem of Alcatel, THREE f***** week to set it up correctly on Linux, buggy or incomplete HOW-TO etc,etc, had to learn how to recompile a kernel which took me quite some time: I had Grub installed not Lilo (works better with ReiserFs) and 99% of the documentation is for Lilo, not for Grub..
At first I used the Alcatel driver which is quite buggy and unsupported now I use Benoit Pappillaud's GPL driver which is really nice.
On Windows it was a snap..
Winner: Windows.
Linux is getting better but will it be as easy as Windows? I doubt about it, why?
Well hardware makers only provide well-tested drivers for Windows, their support of Linux is quite poor if there is some, of course the Linux community helps here, but I wouldn't advise someone to buy "too new" hardware if he wants to use Linux..
And no, this is not a troll, just my own experience, Linux stability is much better than Windows98 which is why I use it, but this advantage will diminish when Windows XP will be released..
You did forget that Greeks olympiades had also some poetry contest.
So who is valuing more the mind?
The Greeks or us?
Kind of showing the things in a different light, don't you think?
PS:
I happen to be against the chess included in the Olympiade Games, because I think that there is a lot of sports who should come before chess playing (skydiving for example) but it is just my opinion.
Or maybe think a little more before posting.
Oh BTW polarisation and momentum are quite different things
I've read about this article a few days ago, and quickly forgot it..
No matter how you slice it, if you look only at the numbers, you'd go with Microsoft, because they OWN the mass market right now.
And "future predictions" are as reliable as astrology.
To summarize, I don't like those kind of "stupid marketing" articles, be they for or against Linux.
I would say that "scripting language" have a real difference in the "little programs".
A C program under 100 lines length is "nearly empty", a Perl script under 100 lines can be quite powerfull under typical usage (obfuscated usage doesn't count).
Think about Eiffel,Ada, Modula functionnal languages etc.
There are MANY languages and very few are widely used..
The "scripting language niche" is quite already filled by Perl and Python..
IMHO Ruby is more readable than Perl (not difficult!) but it competes head to head against Python, and there are many more Python users than Ruby users..
I would say that the odds are against Ruby, we'll see..
As a French I do not mind at all, hearing french spoken by foreigners.
"Au contraire", usually I find their accent quite charming in fact..
This "ministre de la culture" isn't anymore at the governement and yes he made a law to protect the French.
But frankly French couldn't care less about this kind of stupid stuff so this law isn't very enforced.
Except for the radios where there is a quota of French songs but here there are money interests..
I don't know much about dkpg, but everytimes I hear about it users seems very positive, I can't say so about urpmi.
I'm using Mandrake 8.0, I've update quite a few packages from Mandrake's Cooker and now my systems doesn't work very well: I have to tell it twice otherwise it won't shutdown, I can't hear music anymore, etc...
But who is the culprit urpmi or the packages?
It's hard to tell!
BTW I'm currently trying to uprade urpmi to see if it will works better: no luck urpmi downloads everything then I get "Installation failed" the file "XXX.rpm" doesn't exist even if I see that the file was previously downloaded! Aaaarrrggg...
I can probably fix all these problem, but it is going to cost me a lot of time and I'm tired of always fixing something in the Linux/Mandrake configuration.. Maybe I'm ready for Debian..
You said:"A couple of other anti-snobby analogies:
If it weren't for companies like McDonald's, millions of people would be malnourished, having no time and too little money to feed themselves in the few minutes they have between their two jobs"
I find this especially funny, I believe that Americans are among the fatest people on average..
If you don't call this malnourished, I don't know what it is..
And yes, I believe that the "fast-food" is (partly) responsible for the overweight.
OK, I shouldn't find it funny, because being too fat can be a real problem (psychologicaly and physically), but you're comparison was so absurd that it made me smile.
The "if Motorola was the leader" worth nothing: if the history was different we DON'T know what it would have been.
The only thing sure is that we would have the 68xxx ISA which is MUCH more "beautiful" than the ugly 80x86 ISA.
And that's too bad, because it means while there is lots of OS which are currently written very few are usefull..
For me an OS is an interface between applications and the hardware.
Having applications for a new OS is easy: implement POSIX.
But at the lower level, there is no standard for the device drivers, so usually these new OS works on very few hardware..
GGI seems quite dead, that is too bad..
While he is a bit offensive, he has some points though:
- in the articles, they said they have designed the "low voltage" MEMS: they haven't built it.
So for now, wait and see, but it is really too early to say if it has potential..
- the poster REALLY looks stupid when he says MEMS and "no moving parts" in the same sentence!
For the SDR, remember than antenna is only one part of the game, if you want truly versatile software radio, you need also huge computing power!
So at the beginning, I think that SDR will go first into the Base Station, much more earlier than into the handset!
In fact SDR is possible technically in the BS NOW, but the computing power needed is too expensive to be economically interesting.
Give Moore law some time, and you will see SDR into the BS..
Just do a skydive!
:-)
In the first seconds you are really weigthless as said by Mr Einstein
Much cheaper than a space trip or a doing "parabolic flight".
A bit short though..
It has a very slow start-up time (without any connection).
And a User Interface which is very unresponsive on my Celeron 333 with 256Mb of RAM (it might be due to the processing of the connections, though).
But I agree with you: changing the language would NOT speed up the connections which are dead slow even with the ADSL.
50% of the French own a cellular phone and it is still growing..
But WAP is currently a big failure: only a few percent of the phone are WAP enabled, and only a few percent of those who own a WAP-enabled phone use it..
Why? Big connecting time, slow connection, price (you pay for the time you use the service), small screen, few interesting services.
GPRS will start quite soon, it is going to have always-on connection and a different pricing model: you pay for the amount of data not the connection time.
It will still have slow connections (at least at the beginning) though.
I don't know if it will be a success or not, wait and see..
You can see it
I'm wondering: with Windows XP would it be possible to have some partition in NTFS and another one in FAT32 in order to share informations between Linux and Windows (dual boot)?
Does someone do this currently?
But as they're still producing machines, you could say that there still in operation, I think.
I worked with one, and while it was not very powerfull and quite expensive, the way they upgraded CPU was really nice: take out one card, replace with another with the newer CPU, wait until the LED says everything is OK. Do the same with the other card.
It's done! No interruption whatsoever! Nice..
On a related subject, I'm color blind and I wish they would stop using green/red LED for visual feedback as I'm absolutely unable to tell when something goes wrong.
Once I've loose some hours to understand why there was a problem before someone told me that the hardware has a problem, GGRRR.