You can still run Debian with an init system that is not systemd. In fact, several Debian Developers are doing exactly that. There are even packages in the archive which facilitate using software that would otherwise require systemd as an init system to work without it (see systemd-shim). So what is Devuan doing that Debian doesn't offer already? Is it that Devuan compiles everything without even libsystemd0? But what harm is having libsystemd0 installed if you can at the same time still use your init system of choice? Is this really about everything systemd being evil and that's why it must also be evil to link against their shared library? I hoped this was a matter of how one likes to start and manage system services for which there are many init systems available but also rejecting a shared library seems to me like there is some emotional nonsense mixed in as well?
It is easy to say "people will stop working" or "the country/county/city will be flooded with people from outside" but the only way to know what will happen is to try it out. It already has been done in Canada and was called mincome:
I can install "any ROM I want" on a number of devices. That still does not mean that the modem does not anymore get access to the device's main memory...
While many parts are open source, Sailfish OS is not completely free software and contains parts under a proprietary EULA.
Firefox OS is mostly open source as well but contains binary android drivers.
Without free drivers, there will always be a binary blob on your system which can then "phone home" or do other nasty things. Before a phone is created which does not require these blobs, there will be no phone completely running free software.
The openmoko gta01 and freerunner were attempts at this.
The gta04 by golden delicious was pretty good too and was able to run without any binary blobs (it was not necessary to install the binary powervr driver to use the phone normally without 3D).
...you do realize that the TC decision was just one about the default init system for Jessie? Nobody will stop you from not using systemd if you so wish. There is also no decision yet on how to upgrade people from wheezy to jessie, whether that upgrade should mean to switch the init system by default or whether users should stay with their existing init or be given a choice at upgrade time.
The only thing that'll make it harder to switch to non systemd is that some desktops (gnome) will depend on logind. Unless somebody creates a replacement for logind, gnome will depend on systemd but this is hardly Debian's fault. So if you want to complain about Debian "forcing" systemd on you, please complain to gnome to use logind or (better) come up with your logind variant.
It is also necessary to mention the existance of systemd-shim (but this also has to be maintained by someone...).
Windows 10 will have exactly the same requirements as Windows 8.1, which had the same requirements as Windows 8, which stuck to Windows 7 specs, which was the same as Windows Vista
Awesome! Now less people will have to throw away their existing hardware, thus generating less toxic waste!
you can't help wondering what we're actually giving up in exchange for holding the minimum system spec at a single-core 1GHz, 32-bit chip with just 1GB of RAM
I can very much help wondering: we are giving up nothing - or are you saying that the bare operating system *should* consume more than 1 GB of ram and need more than 1GHz of processor to run properly?
what would Windows look like if Microsoft at least mandated a dual-core product
Why would I require a dual core processor to run my OS? My OS should require AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE of my system resources so that I can use those resources to do actual work! Are you suggesting my OS should do *something* which would require keeping at least one core busy??
What if DX10 â" a feature set that virtually every video card today supports, according to Valve's Steam Hardware Survey, became the minimum standard, at least on the x86 side of the equation?
Unless you suggest that I have a dynamic, live-rendered Skyrim wallpaper - why the heck would I need DX10 to draw some stupid windows and buttons??
How much better might the final product be if Microsoft put less effort into validating ancient hardware and kicked those specs upwards, just a notch or two?
You tell me - unless you come up with something that we cannot have because of the non-increased specs, I don't see a single reason why it should be a bad thing that people can keep their old hardware and not invest more money into new one just so that they can upgrade their OS because MS ceases to support their old version.
You are making some groundless, wild claims about what there *could* be without even giving a single example for the price of radically harming the evironment with millions of disposed electric garbage - I think you should think about this for a bit more.
jasper depends on the "CMU-Cambridge Statistical Language Modeling Toolkit V2" which is released under the condition that it will only be used for research purposes. Therefore, their setup can't be used for non-research purposes. I doubt that setting up my own home-automation system counts as research...
My experience come from owning a notion ink adam tablet with the pixelqi screen.
It is readable outside in sunlight.
BUT it is only readable when there is MUCH sunlight and it is NOT very good even under those optimal conditions.
The contrast is extremely bad, hence you get best results with most sunlight but they are still not optimal. Plus, even with most sunlight, the viewing angle is still extremely narrow and when you tilt the screen just a bit too much, the content becomes unreadable.
I am not surprised why we do not see these "magical" displays in more hardware.
I've been with the project for over two and a half years and pre-ordered mine in february 2010 - no product yet. It was always delayed and the current status is:
forum silent, irc silent (been in both for three years now) and no answer to any email.
the product is total vaporware - dont buy it!
I got a second-hand V1 touchbook though but even that one is not recommendable - it has many hardware bugs, the most important one being that charging doesnt properly work and while there are resoldering solutions to some, there are none to others.
why not instead of whining about the situation, help making a privacy respecting smartphone platform happen?
The successor to the openmoko gta02 is the goldendelicious gta04 featuring an omap3 processor and umts internet and many more things you would want your smartphone to have.
I have debian with e17 using the illume theme running on the notion ink adam tablet and I'm really impressed how well it works.
The packages in debian unstable are new enough for a proper installation of e17 and bootstrapping debian for armel is also piece of cake using multistrap.
Troubles start when each operating system wants to get control over wireless, the display or any other resource they all share and expect to have exclusive control over. So considering how many bugs we already have in current operating systems I can hardly imagine the amount of hacks required to android or GNU/Linux to make them at least cooperate enough for basic functionality is worth the benefits of having multiple OS at the same time. I dont really see the advantage of such a feature.
"Truly open-development, open-source phones like the Nokia N900..."
are you kidding me???
what is "Truly open-development, open-source" about a platform that has
* proprietary power management (bme) * no docs for the gsm modem interface (and no source code for the apps using it) * proprietary powervr graphics drivers * proprietary osso-dsp-modules
i'm not so much pissed by proprietary applications as i can replace the rootfs by a free and open source one what pisses me off is the undocumented hardware used and lacking communication with upstream kernel development. dont call this device "truly open"-blah... it is definitely NOT.
there are a few devices that strive to be as open as a linux phone should be: openmoko tried and indeed even though the calypso is undocumented they provided a implementation of how to interface it and thanks to it one can use all of its hardware without binary blobs - NOT POSSIBLE ON THE N900!!! then there is the FLOW by gizmoforyou which uses a gumstix overo as the base and added a telit modem for which you can download the FULL DOCS from their website - hey guys at nokia, this is the kind of modem you should have picked if you wanted your device to be called "truly open"! the modem used in the n900 uses ISI for which no reference interpretation in oss exists.
is it only me or did the slashdot crowd forget what "truly open" means and is now all over a device that is open on the top but not if one wants to really start messing around with it?
Slashdot Mirror
https://omnia.turris.cz/
Specs: 1.6 GHz dual-core ARM, 2 GB DDR3, 8 GB flash, 5 Gbit LAN, 1 Gbit WAN, 2 USB 3.0, 2 Mini PCI Express, 1 mSATA / mini PCI Express, 3x3 MIMO 802.11ac, 2x2 MIMO 802.11b/g/n
I use it together with two hard drives attached via SATA.
It ships with a custom version of OpenWRT but you can also install other stuff on it like Debian:
https://wiki.debian.org/Instal...
Or openSUSE:
https://en.opensuse.org/HCL:Tu...
You can still run Debian with an init system that is not systemd. In fact, several Debian Developers are doing exactly that. There are even packages in the archive which facilitate using software that would otherwise require systemd as an init system to work without it (see systemd-shim). So what is Devuan doing that Debian doesn't offer already? Is it that Devuan compiles everything without even libsystemd0? But what harm is having libsystemd0 installed if you can at the same time still use your init system of choice? Is this really about everything systemd being evil and that's why it must also be evil to link against their shared library? I hoped this was a matter of how one likes to start and manage system services for which there are many init systems available but also rejecting a shared library seems to me like there is some emotional nonsense mixed in as well?
A good summary how XMPP is still a good choice today for the mobile world:
https://gultsch.de/xmpp_2016.h...
It is easy to say "people will stop working" or "the country/county/city will be flooded with people from outside" but the only way to know what will happen is to try it out. It already has been done in Canada and was called mincome:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The project was cancelled despite its huge success because of an economical crisis and results were locked up until recently.
I can install "any ROM I want" on a number of devices. That still does not mean that the modem does not anymore get access to the device's main memory...
While many parts are open source, Sailfish OS is not completely free software and contains parts under a proprietary EULA.
Firefox OS is mostly open source as well but contains binary android drivers.
Without free drivers, there will always be a binary blob on your system which can then "phone home" or do other nasty things. Before a phone is created which does not require these blobs, there will be no phone completely running free software.
The openmoko gta01 and freerunner were attempts at this.
The gta04 by golden delicious was pretty good too and was able to run without any binary blobs (it was not necessary to install the binary powervr driver to use the phone normally without 3D).
The next upcoming thing is the neo900: http://neo900.org/
For a phone without "all your data are belong to us" thingys in the background check out the neo900: http://neo900.org/
...last time I tried
apt-get source --build iceweasel
apt-get source --build chromium
apt-get source --build webkitgtk
it worked perfectly fine - what's the issue?
...you do realize that the TC decision was just one about the default init system for Jessie? Nobody will stop you from not using systemd if you so wish. There is also no decision yet on how to upgrade people from wheezy to jessie, whether that upgrade should mean to switch the init system by default or whether users should stay with their existing init or be given a choice at upgrade time.
The only thing that'll make it harder to switch to non systemd is that some desktops (gnome) will depend on logind. Unless somebody creates a replacement for logind, gnome will depend on systemd but this is hardly Debian's fault. So if you want to complain about Debian "forcing" systemd on you, please complain to gnome to use logind or (better) come up with your logind variant.
It is also necessary to mention the existance of systemd-shim (but this also has to be maintained by someone...).
Instead of 1000 iterations of ROT13 I applied 655,331 iterations and I already feel much safer!!
Awesome! Now less people will have to throw away their existing hardware, thus generating less toxic waste!
I can very much help wondering: we are giving up nothing - or are you saying that the bare operating system *should* consume more than 1 GB of ram and need more than 1GHz of processor to run properly?
Why would I require a dual core processor to run my OS? My OS should require AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE of my system resources so that I can use those resources to do actual work! Are you suggesting my OS should do *something* which would require keeping at least one core busy??
Unless you suggest that I have a dynamic, live-rendered Skyrim wallpaper - why the heck would I need DX10 to draw some stupid windows and buttons??
You tell me - unless you come up with something that we cannot have because of the non-increased specs, I don't see a single reason why it should be a bad thing that people can keep their old hardware and not invest more money into new one just so that they can upgrade their OS because MS ceases to support their old version.
You are making some groundless, wild claims about what there *could* be without even giving a single example for the price of radically harming the evironment with millions of disposed electric garbage - I think you should think about this for a bit more.
Please don't go around your Debian system with rm to remove man pages, docs and localization...
Instead use the path-exclude mechanism of dpkg:
http://raphaelhertzog.com/2010...
jasper depends on the "CMU-Cambridge Statistical Language Modeling Toolkit V2" which is released under the condition that it will only be used for research purposes. Therefore, their setup can't be used for non-research purposes. I doubt that setting up my own home-automation system counts as research...
That torrent only includes 16 bit per sample FLAC. The original audio is 32 bits per sample so quality is lost.
This torrent uses 32 bit per sample FLAC: http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7544348
Here is the livestream.com link OP's article points to: http://www.livestream.com/embed/spaceflightnow It will play filling your whole browser window.
Does anybody happen to have an rtmpdump url for this?
My experience come from owning a notion ink adam tablet with the pixelqi screen.
It is readable outside in sunlight.
BUT it is only readable when there is MUCH sunlight and it is NOT very good even under those optimal conditions.
The contrast is extremely bad, hence you get best results with most sunlight but they are still not optimal. Plus, even with most sunlight, the viewing angle is still extremely narrow and when you tilt the screen just a bit too much, the content becomes unreadable.
I am not surprised why we do not see these "magical" displays in more hardware.
...what happens in those 2 of 100 cases it detected your behind wrongly? :D
the product is dead and the company silent.
I've been with the project for over two and a half years and pre-ordered mine in february 2010 - no product yet. It was always delayed and the current status is:
forum silent, irc silent (been in both for three years now) and no answer to any email.
the product is total vaporware - dont buy it!
I got a second-hand V1 touchbook though but even that one is not recommendable - it has many hardware bugs, the most important one being that charging doesnt properly work and while there are resoldering solutions to some, there are none to others.
I have it running and here is how: http://blog.mister-muffin.de/2011/05/01/putting-debian-on-the-notion-ink-adam/
I pre-ordered a smartbook in february 2010 (!!) and there is nothing there yet.
Forums are dead.
IRC is dead.
No reply to any email you send to them.
Dont bother with this company!
why not instead of whining about the situation, help making a privacy respecting smartphone platform happen?
The successor to the openmoko gta02 is the goldendelicious gta04 featuring an omap3 processor and umts internet and many more things you would want your smartphone to have.
They started preorders now: http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04
So quit whining, get yourself a truly free and open phone and help making the operating system where YOU choose and not some evil corporation.
I have debian with e17 using the illume theme running on the notion ink adam tablet and I'm really impressed how well it works.
The packages in debian unstable are new enough for a proper installation of e17 and bootstrapping debian for armel is also piece of cake using multistrap.
maybe worth looking into it.
a short summary: http://superuser.com/questions/329375/how-is-this-operating-system-switching-done/330926#330926
the presentation by AI at ELC 2011: http://elinux.org/images/5/5c/ELC-AlwaysInnovating-Gentil.pdf
Troubles start when each operating system wants to get control over wireless, the display or any other resource they all share and expect to have exclusive control over. So considering how many bugs we already have in current operating systems I can hardly imagine the amount of hacks required to android or GNU/Linux to make them at least cooperate enough for basic functionality is worth the benefits of having multiple OS at the same time. I dont really see the advantage of such a feature.
is that you can win a game.
nobody EVER won tetris!!!
"Truly open-development, open-source phones like the Nokia N900..."
are you kidding me???
what is "Truly open-development, open-source" about a platform that has
* proprietary power management (bme)
* no docs for the gsm modem interface (and no source code for the apps using it)
* proprietary powervr graphics drivers
* proprietary osso-dsp-modules
read also:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1584
http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages
i'm not so much pissed by proprietary applications as i can replace the rootfs by a free and open source one what pisses me off is the undocumented hardware used and lacking communication with upstream kernel development.
dont call this device "truly open"-blah... it is definitely NOT.
there are a few devices that strive to be as open as a linux phone should be:
openmoko tried and indeed even though the calypso is undocumented they provided a implementation of how to interface it and thanks to it one can use all of its hardware without binary blobs - NOT POSSIBLE ON THE N900!!!
then there is the FLOW by gizmoforyou which uses a gumstix overo as the base and added a telit modem for which you can download the FULL DOCS from their website - hey guys at nokia, this is the kind of modem you should have picked if you wanted your device to be called "truly open"!
the modem used in the n900 uses ISI for which no reference interpretation in oss exists.
is it only me or did the slashdot crowd forget what "truly open" means and is now all over a device that is open on the top but not if one wants to really start messing around with it?