Interesting review. Personally, I have really disliked Palm keyboards in the past, and the Pre probably will be no exception (though I haven't yet used it over a long period of time). At the same time, I think the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone is very comfortable to use. Just a matter of personal taste I guess.
Anyway, I'm incredibly happy that Palm is back from their extended funk. The OS on the Pre seems fabulous to me. While I'm not ecstatic about the hardware, another functioning player in this market can only be only be a good thing for us consumers.
1: Your complaint is "non-compiled", not "non-native." Objective-C ain't machine code, you know.
I think the point which you missed is Objective-C compiles to machine code while Javascript is interpreted or compiled at run-time. Either way, Javascript code must run with overhead* that simply doesn't apply to code compiled to machine instructions.
* With some modern interpreters with JIT, the overhead can be very small and sometimes negligible.
I don't experience any slowness on my own iPhone, and I have plenty of 3rd-party apps. I wonder what the difference is between mine and yours. The only app I've noticed to stutter is Google Earth, and that stutters even on my Q6600 desktop.
There is no universal standard GUI toolkit on Windows either. Firefox and Opera use their own. OpenOffice.org uses its own. Even Microsoft Office uses its own. On the Mac, there is even more GUI dissonance. Current Macs make the typical Linux environment look downright uniform....
*found out they stopped making the mini 9 in the last month or two but my argument still holds
And what is your argument, that Apple should make sure they have a product to meet each and every possible computing need? Jobs has already stated that they have not gotten into netbooks because they haven't figured out how to compete in that segment yet (i.e. offer a quality product at the prices that people expect). I'm glad they don't release half-assed products in segments they have assessed will not provide decent returns. I'm also glad that Dell apparently is able to do so for those who are interested in such products.
If you're drinking the iCoolaid you need to not complain about the iDRM.
Actually, I doubt that many of us "koolaid drinkers" are the ones complaining. In my experience, the ones who complain the most/loudest about the app store are the ones who don't even have an iPhone/iPod touch. The rest of us are quite content with the wide assortment of apps that are already available, and most of us probably don't have the need to run BitTorrent apps on our cell phones.
It looks like all he means is the same form factor as today's laptops but much flatter. Maybe no more than the thickness of a legal pad.
Maybe you'll be able to fit it in a manila envelope.
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Exactly. Apple loves screwing us. Like when I installed Mac OS X, I was forced to enter this long stream of characters or the software would stop working. And I was way pissed when I had to call Cupertino to "reactivate" my license after I installed a new hard drive. They obviously love implementing any anti-piracy mechanisms they can at the expense of us poor consumers. Those greedy execs will use any anti-consumer strategy just to pad their pockets.
Huh? Oh, this never happened? Well how about the fact that Apple sells DRM musicz!!@! They're obviously in love with DRM.
What? They bought the rights from record companies to distribute non-DRM tracks by giving up their pricing strategy which was valuable to them?
Sshhh. La la la, I'm not listening! Apple is teh evilz DRM-loving anti-consumer pig-dogs!! La la la la........
Proprietary apps may get more users over, but if they hurt the development of free alternatives then its a bad thing.
Why would the presence of proprietary apps on Linux hurt the development of free alternatives? As far as I'm concerned, more choice is a good thing. These open source alternatives should have to compete and actually be better than proprietary software from a functionality and usability viewpoint if they want to stay relevant.
For the Apple fanbois, feel free to mod me down for speaking ill of the almighty......the power of Jobs compels thee.
Why would you get modded down? Putting up Steve Jobs in the supposed light of divinity as seen by "Apple fanbois" is a common, subtle straw man used to get modded up around here.
Major projects? Not that I know of. Tons and tons of small projects? Very much yes. NetBSD runs reliably on old hardware that would otherwise be put out to pasture. Don't assume that it's worthless just because it wasn't used to build facebook. In fact, it's not even very safe to assume that NetBSD isn't a modern, very capable general purpose operating system. In fact, it is.
Anything that justifies itself on the basis of "the user's experience" should be viewed appropriately - as a load of BS. Apple contends that they want us to have a smooth, consistent user "experience". Isn't that MY DECISION?
Yeah, it is. So... what's the problem? If you want to make the decision to customize your user experience, go ahead and jailbreak. Otherwise, the user experience Apple provides is good enough for most people.
Seriously, Apple's not going to haul you off to jail any more than will KDE for adapting their desktop software to fit your needs. Nobody is saying you have to do it Apple's way, but Apple is under no obligation to provide support to you if you try to make their software work in ways it's not yet designed to work (for reasons that are completely irrelevant).
Are there really not enough issues in the world to get worked up about that people are arguing over a freakin' gift exchange?
So... it's only proper to talk about something when it's convenient for democrats? One of the things Bush was most criticized for was how America's image was being tarnished globally, but now that Obama is in, we can't talk about that? I see...
Except that other "enterprise" manufacturers also charge plenty for their drives. The only difference, of course, is that it's popular here to complain about how expensive Apple hardware is, and they can usually be modded up for doing so.
but unfortunately it seems that Iphonedot, er I mean, Slashdot only covers the Iphone....
Your bitterness is juicy.
However, lest anyone get the impression that this is a first for the iPhone, 3D apps have been available since the store itself was opened (and probably even before that). This article is not so much about the iPhone as it is about id Software and John Carmack, so you see, there's really no need to get all rabid.
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Of course, your checkmate preyed more on your co-worker's gross under-exaggeration rather than his real argument.
Interesting review. Personally, I have really disliked Palm keyboards in the past, and the Pre probably will be no exception (though I haven't yet used it over a long period of time). At the same time, I think the on-screen keyboard of the iPhone is very comfortable to use. Just a matter of personal taste I guess.
Anyway, I'm incredibly happy that Palm is back from their extended funk. The OS on the Pre seems fabulous to me. While I'm not ecstatic about the hardware, another functioning player in this market can only be only be a good thing for us consumers.
1: Your complaint is "non-compiled", not "non-native." Objective-C ain't machine code, you know.
I think the point which you missed is Objective-C compiles to machine code while Javascript is interpreted or compiled at run-time. Either way, Javascript code must run with overhead* that simply doesn't apply to code compiled to machine instructions.
* With some modern interpreters with JIT, the overhead can be very small and sometimes negligible.
I don't experience any slowness on my own iPhone, and I have plenty of 3rd-party apps. I wonder what the difference is between mine and yours. The only app I've noticed to stutter is Google Earth, and that stutters even on my Q6600 desktop.
There is no universal standard GUI toolkit on Windows either. Firefox and Opera use their own. OpenOffice.org uses its own. Even Microsoft Office uses its own. On the Mac, there is even more GUI dissonance. Current Macs make the typical Linux environment look downright uniform. ...
I made it until here.
*found out they stopped making the mini 9 in the last month or two but my argument still holds
And what is your argument, that Apple should make sure they have a product to meet each and every possible computing need? Jobs has already stated that they have not gotten into netbooks because they haven't figured out how to compete in that segment yet (i.e. offer a quality product at the prices that people expect). I'm glad they don't release half-assed products in segments they have assessed will not provide decent returns. I'm also glad that Dell apparently is able to do so for those who are interested in such products.
If you're drinking the iCoolaid you need to not complain about the iDRM.
Actually, I doubt that many of us "koolaid drinkers" are the ones complaining. In my experience, the ones who complain the most/loudest about the app store are the ones who don't even have an iPhone/iPod touch. The rest of us are quite content with the wide assortment of apps that are already available, and most of us probably don't have the need to run BitTorrent apps on our cell phones.
Just a thought.
It looks like all he means is the same form factor as today's laptops but much flatter. Maybe no more than the thickness of a legal pad.
Maybe you'll be able to fit it in a manila envelope.
Exactly. Apple loves screwing us. Like when I installed Mac OS X, I was forced to enter this long stream of characters or the software would stop working. And I was way pissed when I had to call Cupertino to "reactivate" my license after I installed a new hard drive. They obviously love implementing any anti-piracy mechanisms they can at the expense of us poor consumers. Those greedy execs will use any anti-consumer strategy just to pad their pockets.
Huh? Oh, this never happened? Well how about the fact that Apple sells DRM musicz!!@! They're obviously in love with DRM.
What? They bought the rights from record companies to distribute non-DRM tracks by giving up their pricing strategy which was valuable to them?
Sshhh. La la la, I'm not listening! Apple is teh evilz DRM-loving anti-consumer pig-dogs!! La la la la........
Proprietary apps may get more users over, but if they hurt the development of free alternatives then its a bad thing.
Why would the presence of proprietary apps on Linux hurt the development of free alternatives? As far as I'm concerned, more choice is a good thing. These open source alternatives should have to compete and actually be better than proprietary software from a functionality and usability viewpoint if they want to stay relevant.
The distinction is lost on me. I would feel comfortable using either guess or estimate interchangeably in both of these examples.
Theoretically, you don't have to pay for Windows.
I'm having a hard time reading your comment. It looks all... slanted.
For the Apple fanbois, feel free to mod me down for speaking ill of the almighty......the power of Jobs compels thee.
Why would you get modded down? Putting up Steve Jobs in the supposed light of divinity as seen by "Apple fanbois" is a common, subtle straw man used to get modded up around here.
I'm guessing you already knew that.
I think it's important to keep in mind that it is the GPL that is incompatible with other free licenses, not the other way around.
Then presumably they can complain to their heads of household, etc. to finally get their software upgraded.
Major projects? Not that I know of. Tons and tons of small projects? Very much yes. NetBSD runs reliably on old hardware that would otherwise be put out to pasture. Don't assume that it's worthless just because it wasn't used to build facebook. In fact, it's not even very safe to assume that NetBSD isn't a modern, very capable general purpose operating system. In fact, it is.
People worship XP...
Quite literally, since the chi rho is a monogram for Jesus Christ.
Anything that justifies itself on the basis of "the user's experience" should be viewed appropriately - as a load of BS. Apple contends that they want us to have a smooth, consistent user "experience". Isn't that MY DECISION?
Yeah, it is. So... what's the problem? If you want to make the decision to customize your user experience, go ahead and jailbreak. Otherwise, the user experience Apple provides is good enough for most people.
Seriously, Apple's not going to haul you off to jail any more than will KDE for adapting their desktop software to fit your needs. Nobody is saying you have to do it Apple's way, but Apple is under no obligation to provide support to you if you try to make their software work in ways it's not yet designed to work (for reasons that are completely irrelevant).
Not only is it longer, but it's also less meaningful...
Meh. Tuxracer is good enough for me.
Are there really not enough issues in the world to get worked up about that people are arguing over a freakin' gift exchange?
So... it's only proper to talk about something when it's convenient for democrats? One of the things Bush was most criticized for was how America's image was being tarnished globally, but now that Obama is in, we can't talk about that? I see...
Except that other "enterprise" manufacturers also charge plenty for their drives. The only difference, of course, is that it's popular here to complain about how expensive Apple hardware is, and they can usually be modded up for doing so.
but unfortunately it seems that Iphonedot, er I mean, Slashdot only covers the Iphone....
Your bitterness is juicy.
However, lest anyone get the impression that this is a first for the iPhone, 3D apps have been available since the store itself was opened (and probably even before that). This article is not so much about the iPhone as it is about id Software and John Carmack, so you see, there's really no need to get all rabid.
Making a profit and being relevant are two different things.
... And RedHat is a publicly traded company which is concerned with (that's right) profit.