Have you seen the California budget lately? No, CA does not give more than it receives. The state is in massive debt, has massive regulations, and businesses can't seem to leave the state fast enough.
So anyhow, now that your ideology is in complete control, it's going to sound pretty funny when you still try to blame them damn libtards for every problem. Let em go or kick them out.
I fully supported Texas seceding, as I do California.
What you do when people pester you with unreadable proprietary documents? You tell them to fuck off, until they have learned to install another program which is free, and produce a readable document with it...
Well, that usually doesn't work too well as you know. But asking for a pdf instead pretty much always works just fine.
And then the boss wants a.doc file, or the info brought into a spreadsheet.... in five minutes.
RTFA! They had used a custom version of Ubuntu so they were likely doing the support themselves with a custom setup tuned to their environment and on that level (15 000 desktops) it was likely cheaper. The larger problem is: What happens when someone sends you a document that your version of OpenOffice doesn't like or you need software that doesn't run on Linux? Libre Office file compatibility still isn't 100% (mostly there compared to word, chokes on PowerPoint sides and doesn't do VBA ever)
And that is where it comes down to use cases. Linux has a lower total cost on the desktop when it does everything you need it to. But if you need something that Linux doesn't have software for, the lower cost just doesn't matter.
I've had many more incompatibility problems with Windows than ever with Linux. NOthing like opening an old Office file that someone needs some historical data from.
Your monoculture Windows only outlook is obsolete, and If I cannot take a file from the latest version of Office, and open it up with no changes needed in OS X, then your argument is defeated.
How much do those 120 licenses for windows 10, outlook, and ms office cost?
And what's more, Microsoft will change the rules on ya for no damn reason. Where I worked, you could run a copy of MS Office on your personal computer if you had one at work. They changed their mind after a few years, and demanded that we delete all of the personal copies. many thousands of computers.
And the worst thing of all is that Microsoft Office is not cross platform compatible. Of course they don't make one for Linux, but they can't be bothered to make it compatible between OSX and Windows.
Meanwhile I have perfect compatibility between Linux, Windows, and OSX by running AO. For free. Hell I'd pay for that compatibility alone.
So they build their own distro which is customized to their exact requirements.
Anybody who tries to assert that doing this would be "free" is a fool, or a liar. They may not be paying licenses to RedHat, but there is most certainly a cost of ownership associated with "building and customizing" their own Linux distribution.
The cost of hiring sufficient engineering and support personnel to manage this certainly drives up the cost of ownership for the "free" linux solution.
Because even I can roll my own Linux distro http://linuxfromscratch.org/ Step by freaking step. What manner of army of engineers do you need for that?
So which am I the fool or the liar, or both? You know much, so you can let us know. But otherwise, give us the details of why it takes that army.
This is like the time a coworker's husband had a side business, and I was supporting his Mac for free. His buds were big PC fans, so every time he had a problem his buds would say it was because he was using a Mac (with Quicken) Finally, after he started bitching at me because I sent him down the wrong path, I told him he should get a PC. Another guy at work bought his Mac off him, and he bought one of those better PC's. In the end, he had more problems, and didn't get the free tech support from me any more. His computer buds didn't supply it either.
Listen up people. No matter what platform or OS you use, there is going to be someone who tells you you were making a mistake. That's just life.
And if these folks in Germany think Linux is bad, they should just switch over to W10.
Your wireless mouse and keyboards don't use Bluetooth: they use an IRDA style wireless that connects a mouse/keyboard w/ a USB dongle, which goes into one of the 4 (or whatever) USB ports on your computer. It's like having a USB keyboard and USB mouse, sans the wires. Bluetooth is not the standard used here to connect one w/ the other.
I'm sitting here listening to Jackie Blue by the Ozark Mountain Daredevils on my Logitech bluetooth Headset, while simultaneously typing to you on a logitech K480 bluetooth Keyboard and using an Apple magic mouse and I even tried moving the mouse with no effect on either the keyboard or headset all operating simultaneously.
The K480 does have a USB plug-in, if I want it, but its sitting in a recess in the headset, not in use. That's a different technology and for devices that have USB and not Bluetooth. That's a whole different thing.
That's b'cos Bluetooth is a 1:1 connection protocol, not a multiplexed connection: you can only have one device connected to another at any time. Aside from that, tablets typically don't come w/ a separate phone connection, just data, which is why even the messaging apps on the phone don't worrk
So my wireless mouse and my wireless keyboard and my wireless headphones don't work at the same time? Damn that must have been some powerful drugs i been takin'.
Uh, first, how many people head to academic journals to do fact checking?
That would be me. The nifty keeno part about them is that they are cross referenced, and I can dig as deeply as I like. As for access, I do already have it, but I'm pretty certain that if a regular citizen wishes, they can get access to public journals.
I don't disagree with the premise of your question - not all that many people are interested enough or the physics involved is pretty tough, or they don't want to change their minds.
But especially in physical matters, it is pretty hard to beat. It just doesn't fit in a soundbite world.
This does seem like a more sensble test track than LA to SF. At least land is cheap (mostly desert), power is cheap (mostly oil and solar) and labour is cheap (mostly slave).
I wonder if it will ever happen in the US. They tried to put in a high speed train from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh, and people reacted like they were demanding to have Jerry Sandusky play Santa Claus in every school in the state. We seem to be in a wealth extraction phase now.
One of those rare situations where the Democrats and Republicans all lined up. For different reasons, but howling was the word of the day.
This sort of question brings up a lot of what is wrong with the market. With a few notable exceptions, we seem to be in a world where the idea is to make people as poor as we possibly can. the concept of a wealthy elite, and everyone else working impoverished. That only works as long as people are willing to have a smaller and smaller ruling class, because when 99.9 percent of everyone is broke, you go after the money of those who still have it. Fine young cannibals.
No one cares? I wouldn't say that. A lot of people care. I'm sure the farmers also care, but feel trapped by economic circumstances. And the citizens of New Delhi certainly care as well, as you'd know if you read the article. Individually, their power to change things is extremely limited, other than to protest and urge the government to use its collective power to help in some way (like modernize the farming infrastructure).
One very important consideration is the religion aspect.
I'm dealing in generalities here, so everyone can spare me the "not everyone is" comments.
One of the interesting aspects of religion is that so many of them have a "so what" escape clause. a couple examples are the immortal soul aspect of the abrahamic religions, and the reincarnation aspect of Hinduism, Buddhism, and Sikhs and Jains.
It all boils down to "so what? I'll be in Heaven worshipping God for eternity" or "So what, I'll be reincarnated, and after enough experiences, I'll return to God."
Point is not the specific religion, or the specific route to heaven or God, but the concept of spiritual release, and the unimportance of the present life other than living to enable the next and permanent life.
So while I suppose a lot of people care in some abstract fashion, if they die because of air pollution, or whatever disaster, they'll be reincarnated or meet their maker in order to worship him forever, when that happens, it will all be good, and hwo cares about the world anyhow. It's just an unpleasant waypoint on the way to the final reward.
Unless your intellectual capacity can only handle on idea per day.
There is a lot of data and concepts that have to be thrown away if the entire spheroid goes on UTC.
The idea of the working day and the hours that regularly consist of the day. Pretty much 9-5 or near that. So now we have to start all over and discard all of that, and change to a different method.
A method that is equally arbitrary as the one it replaces. What is the basis, the universal concept of time? What is the rationale for a second, a minute, an hour, a day a week? Even a year? Who decided that a year had to be the orbit of the earth around the sun? Why not venus, mars?
Why even decimals? Why not base 8, since we have 8 fingers and 2 thumbs, Why not binary?
The new UT method will still have a 24 hour day with 60 minutes in an hour, and 60 seconds in a minute.
Meh, unless you can replace an arbitrary system with a non arbitrary one, all of the "It's broken" arguments are silly. The one we replace it with will be just as broken.
Some mental adjustment will be necessary at first.
That's the understatement of the year. I've rarely read a more nerd-centric, normal-human-ignorant proposal.
As a presumed nerd, I have no problem mentally using any or all of the mishmash of times, local civilian, local military, or Universal time. At the same time. DST or no DST as well.
But you are correct in that this "issue" is one that some rigid people that want to apply some rationale (don't call it logic folks) to time.
Of course if they were to have their way of UTC only, the next argument on their plate is the metric clock, maybe a ten hour day built of 100 minutes for each hour.
But giving them attention and consideration is a step beyond reasonable.
If you haven't managed to convince people in the USA to switch to metric, which is in use in the rest of the world, easier and more convenient, good luck making them wake up at two p.m. Oops, sorry, there won't be any a.m. or p.m, of course.
The 'murricans not being able to handle metric is a meme. Modern machinery does either, and so much is already being done in metric. If some Americans are stuck in the older measurement system, it doesn't mean we all are. There is just a lot of older equipment that may still need serviced.
People in some countries are really entrenched in their ways, despite the clear disadvantages.
It's 2016 and the US still hasn't adopted the metric system.
Actually, we use both. And the reason why is all of that WW2 metalworking infrastructure has to wear out. But modern equipment can be either metric or 'murrican. My shop equipment is metric, my tools are both. I even had a Whitworth set of tools some years ago.
Hell, they even have their presidential elections on a Tuesday, no holiday or anything.
Do you get pissed off at the direction the toilet paper comes off the roll if it isn't put in the holder "correctly"? Chillax bro', the umbrage ain't worth it.
That's just what you're used to. After a few months on being on GMT, it'll be second nature to say set your alarm for 12PM to get up on the East coast - what was 7AM.
This time zone crap is just an archaic hold over from the days when railroads ruled. And we live in a 24/7 world these days where I'm dealing with folks all around the world.
I can see this whole thing devolving into a metric time argument.
I deal with civilian, military and UT all the time. Conversion is simple. 5:00 p.m. local is 1700 hours is 2200 UTC. Its actually a help to determine which world I'm operating in, and is instantaneous.
This is a tempest in a teapot, and going all UT wouldn't affect me a bit, but would be terribly disruptive to a lot of people. Its just another effect of our living on an oblate spheroid, and a distortion feature like when we make flat maps of that spheroid.
I`m simply saying that referring to "settled physics" is a bit disingenuous when talking about Climatology.
This is a little like teaching creationism in science class because there is a great controversy.
Yes, there are details that scientists debate and experiment wit great vigor. but at the root of it all, there are gases that retain more energy, to retain less energy by virtue of their varying amounts in an atmosphere. You can do these experiments in your garage. Thousands of children have done science fair exhibits of just that.
What is more, the correlations check out on a global scale. We would probably not exist but for the effect. So right away any debunking of radiative forcing has to eliminate greenhouse gases and substitute another effect to keep the Earth at a habitable temperature.
Simple, repeatable, and no alternative theory is advanced. That's darn settled. If you have a theory, I'be love to hear it.
Next up is That radiative forcing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... . For that, we have adopted one of two years to compare to, namely 1750 or 1850. This is based on either the start of the Industrial revolution, or when measurements were more accurate.
IPCC uses 1750, so I will as well. Using 1750 as a zero point, the amount of extra greenhouse gases added to the atmosphere has a range of uncertainty of.6 to 2.4 watts per square meter, so taken over the surface of the earth with a middle ground of 1.6 Watts per Square meter, it doesn't sound like much, but given that the atmosphere is a 3-d thing, it comes out to 800 Terawatts of radiative forcing.
Energy, which is what that is, wants to be free, and it wants to be fairly equally distributed. So along with the warmth, you are going to have some interesting weather. A rotating and tilted object like the earth that undergoes seasons, will have energy all over the place, and it gets distributed by the Coriolis effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... . so at times with larger energy gradients, you will have more energy to distribute.
Anyhow, debunk anything you like, I love to discuss this stuff.
Probably is most cases the education for your experts are a Geography degree, which as you might imagine has about zero requirements in actual Physics.
I tend to gravitate towards people like Michael Mann, who has a lot of degrees, but none in geography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Politically inclined denialists hate him, which is telling us he is on to something. Anyhow. he's AB mathematics and Physics, Masters Science Physics, Masters Philosophy Physics, Masters Philosophy Geology, and PhD Geology and Geophysics. The Republicans asplode when they hear his name, and he's been investigated s many times, and found innocent of any wrongdoing. then again, we are obviously in a post truth age.
Having reasoned arguments as to why a scientific finding is legitimate or not is important, while dismissive statements are unhelpful and counter productive.
Tell me though, let's say tyha you are trying to do your job, and you have a helper who tells you every single thing you do is wrong, and wants to have a discussion about everything, yet offers no differential ideas, the only thing is he denies that your ideas are correct. That's what our current situation is.
There are almost no reasoned arguments. I've seen a lot of arguments, and even the ones which might introduce some uncertainty such as the weather balloon versus satellite upper atmosphere measurements performed by Christy of University of Alabama have long been reconciled. You do see the first part on a lot of denialist sites, but I've yet to see the reconciliation data.
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Have you seen the California budget lately? No, CA does not give more than it receives. The state is in massive debt, has massive regulations, and businesses can't seem to leave the state fast enough.
Oddly enough, Liberal Jerry Brown changed things a bit http://www.economist.com/news/...
So anyhow, now that your ideology is in complete control, it's going to sound pretty funny when you still try to blame them damn libtards for every problem. Let em go or kick them out.
I fully supported Texas seceding, as I do California.
I'll be these same people pointed and laughed when Texans said the same thing.
Actually, most of them were in favor of Texas seceding.
What you do when people pester you with unreadable proprietary documents? You tell them to fuck off, until they have learned to install another program which is free, and produce a readable document with it...
Well, that usually doesn't work too well as you know. But asking for a pdf instead pretty much always works just fine.
And then the boss wants a .doc file, or the info brought into a spreadsheet.... in five minutes.
RTFA! They had used a custom version of Ubuntu so they were likely doing the support themselves with a custom setup tuned to their environment and on that level (15 000 desktops) it was likely cheaper. The larger problem is: What happens when someone sends you a document that your version of OpenOffice doesn't like or you need software that doesn't run on Linux? Libre Office file compatibility still isn't 100% (mostly there compared to word, chokes on PowerPoint sides and doesn't do VBA ever)
And that is where it comes down to use cases. Linux has a lower total cost on the desktop when it does everything you need it to. But if you need something that Linux doesn't have software for, the lower cost just doesn't matter.
I've had many more incompatibility problems with Windows than ever with Linux. NOthing like opening an old Office file that someone needs some historical data from.
Your monoculture Windows only outlook is obsolete, and If I cannot take a file from the latest version of Office, and open it up with no changes needed in OS X, then your argument is defeated.
How much do those 120 licenses for windows 10, outlook, and ms office cost?
And what's more, Microsoft will change the rules on ya for no damn reason. Where I worked, you could run a copy of MS Office on your personal computer if you had one at work. They changed their mind after a few years, and demanded that we delete all of the personal copies. many thousands of computers.
And the worst thing of all is that Microsoft Office is not cross platform compatible. Of course they don't make one for Linux, but they can't be bothered to make it compatible between OSX and Windows.
Meanwhile I have perfect compatibility between Linux, Windows, and OSX by running AO. For free. Hell I'd pay for that compatibility alone.
Anybody who tries to assert that doing this would be "free" is a fool, or a liar. They may not be paying licenses to RedHat, but there is most certainly a cost of ownership associated with "building and customizing" their own Linux distribution.
The cost of hiring sufficient engineering and support personnel to manage this certainly drives up the cost of ownership for the "free" linux solution.
Because even I can roll my own Linux distro http://linuxfromscratch.org/ Step by freaking step. What manner of army of engineers do you need for that?
So which am I the fool or the liar, or both? You know much, so you can let us know. But otherwise, give us the details of why it takes that army.
Listen up people. No matter what platform or OS you use, there is going to be someone who tells you you were making a mistake. That's just life. And if these folks in Germany think Linux is bad, they should just switch over to W10.
The way I heard it, it was actually a STOLEN electrolyte formula, and the thieving chemists didn't know that they didn't have the complete formula.
Yeah - that's the story I heard as well. I just figured if there were any company shills around, I'd get modded to oblivion, os I left that part out.
But it's easy to spot the Shills: They're the people that are constantly accusing OTHERS of being Shills.... ;-)
So you are the one that has been stealing my checks from Apple, Microsoft, Samsung, Dell, and every other manucaturer or OS provider?
Your wireless mouse and keyboards don't use Bluetooth: they use an IRDA style wireless that connects a mouse/keyboard w/ a USB dongle, which goes into one of the 4 (or whatever) USB ports on your computer. It's like having a USB keyboard and USB mouse, sans the wires. Bluetooth is not the standard used here to connect one w/ the other.
I'm sitting here listening to Jackie Blue by the Ozark Mountain Daredevils on my Logitech bluetooth Headset, while simultaneously typing to you on a logitech K480 bluetooth Keyboard and using an Apple magic mouse and I even tried moving the mouse with no effect on either the keyboard or headset all operating simultaneously.
The K480 does have a USB plug-in, if I want it, but its sitting in a recess in the headset, not in use. That's a different technology and for devices that have USB and not Bluetooth. That's a whole different thing.
Otherwise, carry on.
How was that crow you had for breakfast?
Crow? this is popcorn time dude!
That's b'cos Bluetooth is a 1:1 connection protocol, not a multiplexed connection: you can only have one device connected to another at any time. Aside from that, tablets typically don't come w/ a separate phone connection, just data, which is why even the messaging apps on the phone don't worrk
So my wireless mouse and my wireless keyboard and my wireless headphones don't work at the same time? Damn that must have been some powerful drugs i been takin'.
Four years from now, we're all going to be living in the rubble and cooking squirrels over oil barrels.
If you do it right, squirrel is pretty tasty.
A huge SJW database to correct all terms and typed text before its ever on the net.
That's how we get from "The mailman delivered the mail to the mailbox to "The personperson delivered the person to the personperson."
Uh, first, how many people head to academic journals to do fact checking?
That would be me. The nifty keeno part about them is that they are cross referenced, and I can dig as deeply as I like. As for access, I do already have it, but I'm pretty certain that if a regular citizen wishes, they can get access to public journals.
I don't disagree with the premise of your question - not all that many people are interested enough or the physics involved is pretty tough, or they don't want to change their minds.
But especially in physical matters, it is pretty hard to beat. It just doesn't fit in a soundbite world.
This does seem like a more sensble test track than LA to SF. At least land is cheap (mostly desert), power is cheap (mostly oil and solar) and labour is cheap (mostly slave).
I wonder if it will ever happen in the US. They tried to put in a high speed train from Philadelphia to Pittsburgh, and people reacted like they were demanding to have Jerry Sandusky play Santa Claus in every school in the state. We seem to be in a wealth extraction phase now.
One of those rare situations where the Democrats and Republicans all lined up. For different reasons, but howling was the word of the day.
Assholes!
What manner of company would tie themselves to the company that has killed the computer market?.
This sort of question brings up a lot of what is wrong with the market. With a few notable exceptions, we seem to be in a world where the idea is to make people as poor as we possibly can. the concept of a wealthy elite, and everyone else working impoverished. That only works as long as people are willing to have a smaller and smaller ruling class, because when 99.9 percent of everyone is broke, you go after the money of those who still have it. Fine young cannibals.
The way I heard it, it was actually a STOLEN electrolyte formula, and the thieving chemists didn't know that they didn't have the complete formula.
Yeah - that's the story I heard as well. I just figured if there were any company shills around, I'd get modded to oblivion, os I left that part out.
No one cares? I wouldn't say that. A lot of people care. I'm sure the farmers also care, but feel trapped by economic circumstances. And the citizens of New Delhi certainly care as well, as you'd know if you read the article. Individually, their power to change things is extremely limited, other than to protest and urge the government to use its collective power to help in some way (like modernize the farming infrastructure).
One very important consideration is the religion aspect.
I'm dealing in generalities here, so everyone can spare me the "not everyone is" comments.
One of the interesting aspects of religion is that so many of them have a "so what" escape clause. a couple examples are the immortal soul aspect of the abrahamic religions, and the reincarnation aspect of Hinduism, Buddhism, and Sikhs and Jains.
It all boils down to "so what? I'll be in Heaven worshipping God for eternity" or "So what, I'll be reincarnated, and after enough experiences, I'll return to God."
Point is not the specific religion, or the specific route to heaven or God, but the concept of spiritual release, and the unimportance of the present life other than living to enable the next and permanent life.
So while I suppose a lot of people care in some abstract fashion, if they die because of air pollution, or whatever disaster, they'll be reincarnated or meet their maker in order to worship him forever, when that happens, it will all be good, and hwo cares about the world anyhow. It's just an unpleasant waypoint on the way to the final reward.
It's broke.
No, it isn't.
Unless your intellectual capacity can only handle on idea per day.
There is a lot of data and concepts that have to be thrown away if the entire spheroid goes on UTC.
The idea of the working day and the hours that regularly consist of the day. Pretty much 9-5 or near that. So now we have to start all over and discard all of that, and change to a different method.
A method that is equally arbitrary as the one it replaces. What is the basis, the universal concept of time? What is the rationale for a second, a minute, an hour, a day a week? Even a year? Who decided that a year had to be the orbit of the earth around the sun? Why not venus, mars?
Why even decimals? Why not base 8, since we have 8 fingers and 2 thumbs, Why not binary?
The new UT method will still have a 24 hour day with 60 minutes in an hour, and 60 seconds in a minute.
Meh, unless you can replace an arbitrary system with a non arbitrary one, all of the "It's broken" arguments are silly. The one we replace it with will be just as broken.
Some mental adjustment will be necessary at first.
That's the understatement of the year. I've rarely read a more nerd-centric, normal-human-ignorant proposal.
As a presumed nerd, I have no problem mentally using any or all of the mishmash of times, local civilian, local military, or Universal time. At the same time. DST or no DST as well.
But you are correct in that this "issue" is one that some rigid people that want to apply some rationale (don't call it logic folks) to time.
Of course if they were to have their way of UTC only, the next argument on their plate is the metric clock, maybe a ten hour day built of 100 minutes for each hour.
But giving them attention and consideration is a step beyond reasonable.
If you haven't managed to convince people in the USA to switch to metric, which is in use in the rest of the world, easier and more convenient, good luck making them wake up at two p.m. Oops, sorry, there won't be any a.m. or p.m, of course.
The 'murricans not being able to handle metric is a meme. Modern machinery does either, and so much is already being done in metric. If some Americans are stuck in the older measurement system, it doesn't mean we all are. There is just a lot of older equipment that may still need serviced.
People in some countries are really entrenched in their ways, despite the clear disadvantages. It's 2016 and the US still hasn't adopted the metric system.
Actually, we use both. And the reason why is all of that WW2 metalworking infrastructure has to wear out. But modern equipment can be either metric or 'murrican. My shop equipment is metric, my tools are both. I even had a Whitworth set of tools some years ago.
Hell, they even have their presidential elections on a Tuesday, no holiday or anything.
Do you get pissed off at the direction the toilet paper comes off the roll if it isn't put in the holder "correctly"? Chillax bro', the umbrage ain't worth it.
That's just what you're used to. After a few months on being on GMT, it'll be second nature to say set your alarm for 12PM to get up on the East coast - what was 7AM.
This time zone crap is just an archaic hold over from the days when railroads ruled. And we live in a 24/7 world these days where I'm dealing with folks all around the world.
I can see this whole thing devolving into a metric time argument.
I deal with civilian, military and UT all the time. Conversion is simple. 5:00 p.m. local is 1700 hours is 2200 UTC. Its actually a help to determine which world I'm operating in, and is instantaneous.
This is a tempest in a teapot, and going all UT wouldn't affect me a bit, but would be terribly disruptive to a lot of people. Its just another effect of our living on an oblate spheroid, and a distortion feature like when we make flat maps of that spheroid.
I`m simply saying that referring to "settled physics" is a bit disingenuous when talking about Climatology.
This is a little like teaching creationism in science class because there is a great controversy.
Yes, there are details that scientists debate and experiment wit great vigor. but at the root of it all, there are gases that retain more energy, to retain less energy by virtue of their varying amounts in an atmosphere. You can do these experiments in your garage. Thousands of children have done science fair exhibits of just that.
What is more, the correlations check out on a global scale. We would probably not exist but for the effect. So right away any debunking of radiative forcing has to eliminate greenhouse gases and substitute another effect to keep the Earth at a habitable temperature.
Simple, repeatable, and no alternative theory is advanced. That's darn settled. If you have a theory, I'be love to hear it.
Next up is That radiative forcing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... . For that, we have adopted one of two years to compare to, namely 1750 or 1850. This is based on either the start of the Industrial revolution, or when measurements were more accurate.
IPCC uses 1750, so I will as well. Using 1750 as a zero point, the amount of extra greenhouse gases added to the atmosphere has a range of uncertainty of .6 to 2.4 watts per square meter, so taken over the surface of the earth with a middle ground of 1.6 Watts per Square meter, it doesn't sound like much, but given that the atmosphere is a 3-d thing, it comes out to 800 Terawatts of radiative forcing.
Energy, which is what that is, wants to be free, and it wants to be fairly equally distributed. So along with the warmth, you are going to have some interesting weather. A rotating and tilted object like the earth that undergoes seasons, will have energy all over the place, and it gets distributed by the Coriolis effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... . so at times with larger energy gradients, you will have more energy to distribute.
Anyhow, debunk anything you like, I love to discuss this stuff.
Probably is most cases the education for your experts are a Geography degree, which as you might imagine has about zero requirements in actual Physics.
I tend to gravitate towards people like Michael Mann, who has a lot of degrees, but none in geography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Politically inclined denialists hate him, which is telling us he is on to something. Anyhow. he's AB mathematics and Physics, Masters Science Physics, Masters Philosophy Physics, Masters Philosophy Geology, and PhD Geology and Geophysics. The Republicans asplode when they hear his name, and he's been investigated s many times, and found innocent of any wrongdoing. then again, we are obviously in a post truth age.
Having reasoned arguments as to why a scientific finding is legitimate or not is important, while dismissive statements are unhelpful and counter productive.
Tell me though, let's say tyha you are trying to do your job, and you have a helper who tells you every single thing you do is wrong, and wants to have a discussion about everything, yet offers no differential ideas, the only thing is he denies that your ideas are correct. That's what our current situation is.
There are almost no reasoned arguments. I've seen a lot of arguments, and even the ones which might introduce some uncertainty such as the weather balloon versus satellite upper atmosphere measurements performed by Christy of University of Alabama have long been reconciled. You do see the first part on a lot of denialist sites, but I've yet to see the reconciliation data.
Which is why a person can get tired of it. When
I doubt London has seen dead bodies and dead cows floating down the Thames in those numbers in over a century, maybe longer.
Oh yeah. My main commentary was about the air pollution and what it can do.
Not that utterly disgusting habit of bathing in corpse laden sewage.