Since the gp called the parents bullies and you countered with what I presume means that the gp is calling the victims in this situation bullies, it follows that you think the parents are somehow the victims here, if I missed something kindly point it out.
No, I'm responding to the thread of the conversation. If we can go back and not follow the thread, I can fram my personal thoughts on both the parents and the daughter.
My thoughts on the parents are:
They are fucking asshioles, You can qute that, and it is what I think th eparents are. Assholes. The parents are stupid teasing assholes. As in anal orifice type stinking assholes. You know assholes Am I clear that I think the parents aer smelly assholes? As in being assholes?
However, and this is where you are going to go sensitive snowflake on me
The daughter is an asshole as well. As they say in platitude land, th enut doesn't land far from the tree.
Rather than involve lawyers, and tht sort of also asshole stuff, I wonder if she complained to Facebook? They have a rather strict policy on nudity. Perhaps you saw where they actually edited a historic photo, removing the naughty bits in the little girl who was running naked from a fire after her villiage in Vietnam was napalmed. (note they later apologized for teh alteration - but this young ladies caae is not historic) They also have policies on harassment. It sounds like the daughter sees it as harassment, and any parent who is not an asshole would stop doing what a child believes is harassment.
So quit talking to me, because you are also showing some charactistics of assholism. Besides, I might tke it as harassment.
Sincerely, Juror number 3.
You can have the last reply, because I'm tired of this conversation, my dear snowflake.
Should the government regulate these things, or should people sue in a free market?
Look - the free market is always self correcting. As soon as enough people die form Samsung phones, either word will get out, and people stop buying them, or their customers will be dead.
What if they were suing you because they had already asked you and you had refused? The article does not suggest this is her first course of action:
> “I’m tired of not being taken seriously by my parents,” who, despite her requests, have refused to take the photos down.
If you were refusing your child's request, would you still cut them out of their life if they decided to get the legal system involved in having their request honored?
As I replied to another, she has options. She can complain to facebook. They have specific rules about harassment, bullying, and nudity.
As for the other questions, this isn't about me. I wouldn't post photos of my children anywhere without their consent. So this situation wouldn't happen. I don't know what I could do that would elicit a lawsuit, because by and large, may family and I don't roll that way. But yes, if one of them sued me, it would be a relationship ending event.
It's silly to demand that a Linux distro hide what makes it Linux and not just another Fisher-Price thingy pasted on the screen.
But there isn't just one way to run Linux. That's the joyful part. I spend much time bashing around. Others can pretty much stick with the repos, and use the GUI.
So I have what I might want, and my wife has what she wants. And if I'm using a desktop type program, I'll use the GUI as well.
Wishing it back to command line days isn't going to happen, and we all have the choice of how we want to work. That's a win in my book.
I posed two questions in my comment and you sidestepped/ignored both of them so let me ask them again:
1. How are the parents victims here?
You nare going to fucking hate this answer - I don't kno0w, because I never declared the parents victims. Go ask someone who said the parents are the victims
2. If this girl does not want her nude childhood pictures on Facebook, what options does she have after repeatedly asking her parents has failed?
If it were me, I would return the favor. If she finds it embarrassing, then complain to Facebook, and put in a word about that Allow me to show you what you should already know
Let us go down the parts that are possible relevant to this poor woman's embarassment, that causes her stress.
Safety secttion
6. You will not bully, intimidate, or harass any user.
7. You will not post content that: is hate speech, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence.
Boom! Seems like according to the article, she finds this action by her parents to constitute harassment. DO you see that in the rules of facebook?
Then most very specifically, there is that little part where Facebook specifically no Nudity.
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So now you answer some questions. Why on earth would she not be able to get Facebook on her side by filing a TOS violation against her parents.
Every
time
they
post
one
of
her
photos?
Unless these are just people that enjoy pissing each other off, there is a simple solution. This could even be done anonymously.
Does that suffice for an acceptable answer my sweet potato? Because that's the alpha and omega of a simple failsafe solution, and its all the answer you shall get.
Every humans life starts with a specific amount of value.
I'm worth about tree fitty
She was a person who not only wanted to hurt other people, but did so in a stupid way. Then when her actions unsurprisingly backfired she lacked any ability to deal with it in an adult manner and just made shit worse.
Yes, but it needs some study because of the strange aspects of it. Distributing a video of yourself engaging in sexual activity to some people, and in an attempt to make an ex-boyfriend jealous, is a little odd. Then when it gets seen by more people, you find that the solution is killing yourself?
It's impossible to make a diagnosis from afar, but this sounds more like bipolar depression than stupidiy. Bad decisions without regard for the consequences, then deciding that the results merit suicide, just speaks to something else than embarrassment. I do suspect the poor woman had treatable mental problems.
This woman, who thought to perform an act that she would later kill herself over, is really not a right to be forgotten issue.
Its a sad story of a person with mental health issues. A lot of people have been recorded having sex, and a lot of it has made its way onto the internet. And they do not kill themselves. Her issues were probably there before she decided to try to make her ex jealous. At some point, she thought that was a good action, then she decided it was so humiliating that her only recourse is killing herself? That doesn't ring like a person so humiliated by the internet, but a person with deep issues.
Sad that she didn't try some counseling before such a drastic action, or someone close to her didn't try to intervene.
tl;dr version - not a right to be forgotten issue, but a depression, possibly bipolar problem, coupled with people who would like to censor the internet - shamelessly trying to take advantage of her demise for their own purposes.
I'll just leave this here and bow out of the silly clickbait shit.
Over the years, I've submitted some stories Some on popular stuff, and some on tech stuff.
As Slasddot jumps feetfirst into the world of What this Pennsylvania Housewife Found out that is Driving Dermatologists Crazy, I can fully understand exactly why they were rejected.
tl;dr version. Apple removed the headphone jack, and replaced it with something.
Now I'll take the discretion to post in less obviously stupid stories. Peace out.
> This is the problem with Windows. if someone has a problem, a shill steps out to tell them how stupid they are
So, like Linux then?
I've met some. But in my early experiences with linux, my questions were usually met with "That's simple - here;s how you do it, and then launched into a world of strange names and tasks that I had no idea about. But it gets better after a while.
Personally, I don't care. Why would I use the stock Ubuntu (or any distro really) image that comes pre-loaded on a computer anyway? If I were to buy one of these computers, the first thing I'd do with it is wipe out the HD and install my own preferred Linux distro image on it,
Well, I'd do the same, since I've been into Ubuntu Mate for the last year. But in the context of the conversation, for certain, I wouldn't want a pre-installed Linux machine with suckware on it.
While I agree with you. The parent post is wrong. The $799 laptop with Windows has an i3, 4GB memory, 128 GB SSD. The Ubuntu version has an i5, 8GB memory, 256 GB SSD. Looking on Dell's website, the Windows version is $100 more with the same specs.
I suppose in today's world, where everyone is a victim and cannot withstand anything negative, I suppose you are correct. Did you see the photos? A child sitting on a toilet. If that is going to destroy someone's life, as you claim, damn near anything else will.
Or is this like the ultimate right to forget case?
Regardless - it isn't how I'd operate. I would suggest psychological help for the parents, for being dicks, and the adult chlld, for being cripplingly oversensitive and destined for failure in life. Much ado here, much ado.
Perhaps the parents should be sent to prison, for utterly destroying their abused and bullied child. Would that be enough? According to you, they have already ruined her life, that's pretty serious.
I'm not certain if you are agreeing or disagreeing, but the basic premise of that post is wrong. We have much more than 300 years of climate data. If you like, do a little research. Pretty fascinating.
I hate the dumbed down ubuntu. Let's get these kids today to have to set up CLI before they can configure their GUI.
I'm pissed off they took hand cranks from car engines.
It's silly to demand that people return to 1985 to do basic computing. There are altogether too many uses of computers to demand that everyone start there.
If their shovelware was better written, it would work in WINE, and then they could still have it preinstalled. Maybe even easier to preinstall it, since a WINE prefix can be straight up copied between machines without having to use disk imaging software.
Who the hell wants that shit on their computer? For me, not having it on the computer is just icing on the cake. Saves me the trouble of uninstalling it.
The problem here is that the Linux version is 150$ more expensive. So basically, you pay more to have a free OS. Sound logical.
You make the mistake of assuming that linux users are linux users because they are cheap. At least for mysself and the others I know that use Linux, we use it because it works better, is more secure, and we like it. I just like Unix and it's linux flavor. That's why my computers are either OSX or Linux. 150 is well worth it to me.
Some of us use our phones as phones. I have all of the applications I need installed now, weather, a few other things, and nothing since. Smartphones make for shitty computing devices, shitty game devices. They do okay as phones though.
Could be, if you were an hot house flower, emotionally stunted shut-in to whom the very idea of not getting your way causes you fly into a rage so intense as to try to send your parents, who sacrificed and raised you for 18+ years to prison.
And there you go. As I said before, I don't know the details, but the case reminds me of Caitlyn Ricci, a 21 year old who has sued her estranged parents twice for tuition - and won. 16K a year from people she doesn't even have a relationship or even talk to.
Innov
She sued twice, once for some 9K and was granted, then the second time she sued for 16 K a year, also granted, but the parents rebelled and said they would enter contempt and go to jail for it . The daughter sued to send them to jail, but the judge declined to enforce the contempt Poor Caitlyn had a GoFundMe site, but could only raise 2 K of teh 20 K she was aiming for.
The evil parents? Here is what they did:
Innocent Caitlyn was kicked out of a Disney Internship for underage drinking, and left home to move in with her grandparents because her gaddamned evil parents set a curfew, and wanted her to do chores around the house.
Also an adult, Rachael moved out of her parents house because she had a boyfriend they didn't like - who she later filed a restraining order against for choking her. She wanted them to pay for her college education in a reverse emancipation move. She accused them of abuse.She eventulally dropped the lawsuit, and the restraining order after getting a 56K scholarship.
My guess is that she would have slammed the university with a lawsuit if they didn't give her a scholarship.
I think a prudent person might consider well the complications of bringing a child into this world today.
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you said:
Since the gp called the parents bullies and you countered with what I presume means that the gp is calling the victims in this situation bullies, it follows that you think the parents are somehow the victims here, if I missed something kindly point it out.
No, I'm responding to the thread of the conversation. If we can go back and not follow the thread, I can fram my personal thoughts on both the parents and the daughter.
My thoughts on the parents are:
They are fucking asshioles, You can qute that, and it is what I think th eparents are. Assholes. The parents are stupid teasing assholes. As in anal orifice type stinking assholes. You know assholes Am I clear that I think the parents aer smelly assholes? As in being assholes?
However, and this is where you are going to go sensitive snowflake on me
The daughter is an asshole as well. As they say in platitude land, th enut doesn't land far from the tree.
Rather than involve lawyers, and tht sort of also asshole stuff, I wonder if she complained to Facebook? They have a rather strict policy on nudity. Perhaps you saw where they actually edited a historic photo, removing the naughty bits in the little girl who was running naked from a fire after her villiage in Vietnam was napalmed. (note they later apologized for teh alteration - but this young ladies caae is not historic) They also have policies on harassment. It sounds like the daughter sees it as harassment, and any parent who is not an asshole would stop doing what a child believes is harassment.
So quit talking to me, because you are also showing some charactistics of assholism. Besides, I might tke it as harassment.
Sincerely, Juror number 3.
You can have the last reply, because I'm tired of this conversation, my dear snowflake.
Troll is troll, but let's play.
Should the government regulate these things, or should people sue in a free market?
Look - the free market is always self correcting. As soon as enough people die form Samsung phones, either word will get out, and people stop buying them, or their customers will be dead.
The free market is the answer to everything.
And links to a google search showing iphones burning up too!
Samsung's always trying to catch up with Apple.
The phone would have never exploded if it had a barometric vent.
Who the heck took out the barometric vent? Goddammit! Hipsters always ruining our stuff.....
Also, the all lower-case sentences really don't help, especially when complaining about teenagers. The irony...
Hey! it took us years to teach him to not use all caps!
Exactly! Except, you know, coffee is supposed to be hot, but phones are not supposed to spontaneously combust.
As long as they run Android and have a phone jack - its all good.
He withdrew the suit because the Samsung had a phone jack. Priorities people, priorities!
What if they were suing you because they had already asked you and you had refused? The article does not suggest this is her first course of action:
> “I’m tired of not being taken seriously by my parents,” who, despite her requests, have refused to take the photos down.
If you were refusing your child's request, would you still cut them out of their life if they decided to get the legal system involved in having their request honored?
As I replied to another, she has options. She can complain to facebook. They have specific rules about harassment, bullying, and nudity.
As for the other questions, this isn't about me. I wouldn't post photos of my children anywhere without their consent. So this situation wouldn't happen. I don't know what I could do that would elicit a lawsuit, because by and large, may family and I don't roll that way. But yes, if one of them sued me, it would be a relationship ending event.
Don't like it? Sue me.
It's silly to demand that a Linux distro hide what makes it Linux and not just another Fisher-Price thingy pasted on the screen.
But there isn't just one way to run Linux. That's the joyful part. I spend much time bashing around. Others can pretty much stick with the repos, and use the GUI.
So I have what I might want, and my wife has what she wants. And if I'm using a desktop type program, I'll use the GUI as well. Wishing it back to command line days isn't going to happen, and we all have the choice of how we want to work. That's a win in my book.
I posed two questions in my comment and you sidestepped/ignored both of them so let me ask them again:
1. How are the parents victims here?
You nare going to fucking hate this answer - I don't kno0w, because I never declared the parents victims. Go ask someone who said the parents are the victims 2. If this girl does not want her nude childhood pictures on Facebook, what options does she have after repeatedly asking her parents has failed?
If it were me, I would return the favor. If she finds it embarrassing, then complain to Facebook, and put in a word about that Allow me to show you what you should already know
https://www.facebook.com/terms
Let us go down the parts that are possible relevant to this poor woman's embarassment, that causes her stress.
Safety secttion 6. You will not bully, intimidate, or harass any user. 7. You will not post content that: is hate speech, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence.
Boom! Seems like according to the article, she finds this action by her parents to constitute harassment. DO you see that in the rules of facebook? Then most very specifically, there is that little part where Facebook specifically no Nudity.
{ So now you answer some questions. Why on earth would she not be able to get Facebook on her side by filing a TOS violation against her parents.
Every
time
they
post
one
of
her
photos?
Unless these are just people that enjoy pissing each other off, there is a simple solution. This could even be done anonymously.
Does that suffice for an acceptable answer my sweet potato? Because that's the alpha and omega of a simple failsafe solution, and its all the answer you shall get.
Every humans life starts with a specific amount of value.
I'm worth about tree fitty
She was a person who not only wanted to hurt other people, but did so in a stupid way. Then when her actions unsurprisingly backfired she lacked any ability to deal with it in an adult manner and just made shit worse.
Yes, but it needs some study because of the strange aspects of it. Distributing a video of yourself engaging in sexual activity to some people, and in an attempt to make an ex-boyfriend jealous, is a little odd. Then when it gets seen by more people, you find that the solution is killing yourself?
It's impossible to make a diagnosis from afar, but this sounds more like bipolar depression than stupidiy. Bad decisions without regard for the consequences, then deciding that the results merit suicide, just speaks to something else than embarrassment. I do suspect the poor woman had treatable mental problems.
Its a sad story of a person with mental health issues. A lot of people have been recorded having sex, and a lot of it has made its way onto the internet. And they do not kill themselves. Her issues were probably there before she decided to try to make her ex jealous. At some point, she thought that was a good action, then she decided it was so humiliating that her only recourse is killing herself? That doesn't ring like a person so humiliated by the internet, but a person with deep issues.
Sad that she didn't try some counseling before such a drastic action, or someone close to her didn't try to intervene.
tl;dr version - not a right to be forgotten issue, but a depression, possibly bipolar problem, coupled with people who would like to censor the internet - shamelessly trying to take advantage of her demise for their own purposes.
Over the years, I've submitted some stories Some on popular stuff, and some on tech stuff.
As Slasddot jumps feetfirst into the world of What this Pennsylvania Housewife Found out that is Driving Dermatologists Crazy, I can fully understand exactly why they were rejected.
tl;dr version. Apple removed the headphone jack, and replaced it with something.
Now I'll take the discretion to post in less obviously stupid stories. Peace out.
> This is the problem with Windows. if someone has a problem, a shill steps out to tell them how stupid they are
So, like Linux then?
I've met some. But in my early experiences with linux, my questions were usually met with "That's simple - here;s how you do it, and then launched into a world of strange names and tasks that I had no idea about. But it gets better after a while.
Personally, I don't care. Why would I use the stock Ubuntu (or any distro really) image that comes pre-loaded on a computer anyway? If I were to buy one of these computers, the first thing I'd do with it is wipe out the HD and install my own preferred Linux distro image on it,
Well, I'd do the same, since I've been into Ubuntu Mate for the last year. But in the context of the conversation, for certain, I wouldn't want a pre-installed Linux machine with suckware on it.
While I agree with you. The parent post is wrong. The $799 laptop with Windows has an i3, 4GB memory, 128 GB SSD. The Ubuntu version has an i5, 8GB memory, 256 GB SSD. Looking on Dell's website, the Windows version is $100 more with the same specs.
800 bucks for an i3 and those specs?? Yikes!
Or is this like the ultimate right to forget case?
Regardless - it isn't how I'd operate. I would suggest psychological help for the parents, for being dicks, and the adult chlld, for being cripplingly oversensitive and destined for failure in life. Much ado here, much ado.
Perhaps the parents should be sent to prison, for utterly destroying their abused and bullied child. Would that be enough? According to you, they have already ruined her life, that's pretty serious.
I'm not certain if you are agreeing or disagreeing, but the basic premise of that post is wrong. We have much more than 300 years of climate data. If you like, do a little research. Pretty fascinating.
I hate the dumbed down ubuntu. Let's get these kids today to have to set up CLI before they can configure their GUI.
I'm pissed off they took hand cranks from car engines.
It's silly to demand that people return to 1985 to do basic computing. There are altogether too many uses of computers to demand that everyone start there.
If their shovelware was better written, it would work in WINE, and then they could still have it preinstalled. Maybe even easier to preinstall it, since a WINE prefix can be straight up copied between machines without having to use disk imaging software.
Who the hell wants that shit on their computer? For me, not having it on the computer is just icing on the cake. Saves me the trouble of uninstalling it.
The problem here is that the Linux version is 150$ more expensive. So basically, you pay more to have a free OS. Sound logical.
You make the mistake of assuming that linux users are linux users because they are cheap. At least for mysself and the others I know that use Linux, we use it because it works better, is more secure, and we like it. I just like Unix and it's linux flavor. That's why my computers are either OSX or Linux. 150 is well worth it to me.
the better for linux. So, lets all hate win 10 a bit.
Does hating win 10 a lot count?
Some of us use our phones as phones. I have all of the applications I need installed now, weather, a few other things, and nothing since. Smartphones make for shitty computing devices, shitty game devices. They do okay as phones though.
Could be, if you were an hot house flower, emotionally stunted shut-in to whom the very idea of not getting your way causes you fly into a rage so intense as to try to send your parents, who sacrificed and raised you for 18+ years to prison.
And there you go. As I said before, I don't know the details, but the case reminds me of Caitlyn Ricci, a 21 year old who has sued her estranged parents twice for tuition - and won. 16K a year from people she doesn't even have a relationship or even talk to.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
Innov She sued twice, once for some 9K and was granted, then the second time she sued for 16 K a year, also granted, but the parents rebelled and said they would enter contempt and go to jail for it . The daughter sued to send them to jail, but the judge declined to enforce the contempt Poor Caitlyn had a GoFundMe site, but could only raise 2 K of teh 20 K she was aiming for.
The evil parents? Here is what they did:
Innocent Caitlyn was kicked out of a Disney Internship for underage drinking, and left home to move in with her grandparents because her gaddamned evil parents set a curfew, and wanted her to do chores around the house.
Her parents should be in jail, amiright?
Then there is the terribly sad story of poor Rachel Canning, a victim of the first degree. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
Also an adult, Rachael moved out of her parents house because she had a boyfriend they didn't like - who she later filed a restraining order against for choking her. She wanted them to pay for her college education in a reverse emancipation move. She accused them of abuse.She eventulally dropped the lawsuit, and the restraining order after getting a 56K scholarship.
My guess is that she would have slammed the university with a lawsuit if they didn't give her a scholarship.
I think a prudent person might consider well the complications of bringing a child into this world today.
Amish do not like their pictures taken.
Young lady marries an Amish fellow, and decides to go in full tilt to teh simple life.
Does she have the right to demand that all photos that carry her "graven image" be destroyed?