... and the binding arbitration clause that's now present in millions of EULA?
Ain't it funny to watch thedissemblingc and tap-dancing? Let's keep badgering the shills - their getting entertaining now.
Though it is pretty hard to beat "They aren't doing what they said they would do, ant peopl report that they are doing because they wouldn't do that, and besides, why would they do that and your Grandma came over last night and updated your computers to Windows ten , but you must not have been paying attention.
I'm not sure what else to tell you. Maybe eventually somebody will make a recording of Windows 10 installing itself, but until then, your assurances fly in the face of my experience, and the reports of several people.
Addendum: do you realize that Microsoft admitted that this was occurring two months ago?
He probably deny's all of the "features" of W10, like the keylogger, the password sharing, and phoning home with things you told them not to after having to opt out of them eh, squiggleslash?
It gets pretty freaky when people tell you you did not see something you saw, or experienced something you experienced. And continue to do so even when proven wrong, as noted by the very company they are shilling for. Kind of like trying to force cognitive dissonance on you.
Like the sibling, I would go with "Someone did this for them". The installation process asks questions throughout the install, before, during, and after. You cannot proceed with the install without answering the questions.
Absolutely. I found one of the neighbors in my house, who got past the security systems, deduced my passphrase, booted my computer and installed Windows 10.
Sounds legit!
So shill, why are you calling all of these people liars?
Right, somebody broke into our locked office building just to maliciously update our OSes? It happened on her computer because her updates were set to "Install updated automatically (recommended)". Perhaps your settings are different. But lots of users have reported Windows 10 installing without any user interaction whatsoever.
Fuggidaboudit! These shills wil just continut to deny reality until you give up. They'll tell you that Microsoft does nothing of th sort, that You don't have to opt out of their key logger, and there isn't even a keyloggewr, and besides, they won't use the kelogger that they dont have that you don't have to opt out of.
Microsoft has been doing you have no choice updates since Windows 8 days, even though they haven't, and even if they id it must have been me in a trance or the neighbor breaking into th ehouse and figuring out our passwords and telling it to update.
Shills? It's really time for you to come up with better lies. The old ones are sounding a little pathetic these days.
No no, they just mine all the land they have, and pile it on top of all the land they mined it from.
If they could do that, then they could probably just make a bunch more land with lava and water in buckets. Alas, meatspace is not nearly as forgiving. No 1ups, just 1mm up at a time
My bad - I was remarking on the difficulties of deep ocean dredging, and comparing it to making a building taller by cutting off the bottome and putting the part you cut off on top. That's what I get for taking NyQuil too early in the evening.
Probably by using an ocean-going dredging machine that shoots the material up onto the beach and then use that. At least for the time being. Or we'll just move 'em. It's not like we're gonna just let 'em drown or anything.
I do suspect that moving will be the answer. My own not terribly precise calculations lead me to believe that we have already stored a lot of energy in the atmosphere, and it's taken a long way to ramp up, and likewise will take a long time to ramp down. So those islands are goners
Anyhow, per your tire burning comment above. Err... Are you saying that I should stop that? 'Cause, man, smelly soot and ruined clothing and coughing fits are what I live for!!! Seriously, even way back in my youth, I never understood why some idiot would throw a tire on a fire. I've seen it done but, frankly, why??? It's not even that spectacular.
I also went out "cow tipping" as a youth. As near as I can tell, you can't really tip a cow over very easily. The tire burning and cow tipping are about as interesting as snipe hunting. I don't see the attraction.
Now if ya wanna see something interesting, burning an old Volkswagen engine block is tons better than a tire. maybe more eco friendly. Certainly pretty bright. And never pour water on a metal fire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
related to cow tipping, friends and I used to have a trick with deer spotting. Shine a bright light on them, they freeze, and we see how close we can get by walking up to them. We stopped when we nearly got sliced by their hooves. But I was young and foolish then, I'm old and foolish now.
It's actually a similar question. Note that they can't even answer the question when it's Kiribati residents vs. the hated bourgeois American middle class. The notion that "these people matter and these other people don't" is one that seems to dissipate when you ask the simple question "why?".
You have utterd the biggest false dichotomy ever made by man. It isn't that Americans will be losing their land if these people are not losing their land.
It isn't even giving up quality of life, unless your hobby is burning old tires in the back yard.
Regardless, you win one internet for the false equivalence.
Why does the Kiribati resident matter more the the American? Why do thousands of Kiribati matter more than millions of Americans?
Why does your son or daughter's life matter more than my potato chips I'm munching on tonight?
Because we are not ISIS you asshole. You might be a sociopath but it ain't a good quality. And for the record, I do care more about your kids than my potato chips. Its as clear as beer pee you have no outlook other than your own Randian view, only you skipped the enlightened part of the self interest.
So have a bag of potato chips, and hope they televise it for your lulz when they drown.
Why not just be honest and say "Why does the Kiribati's problem take precedence over the American who wants a bigger SUV to tow his boat down his vacation home on the man-made lake so he can fish for trophies?"
I'm still trying to figger out just where the hell they are going to get the new land to pile on top of the old land. Thousands of miles from nowhere, in the mddle of a deep ocean.
Which stops faster, the drone car or the the drone tractor? But if the drone car occupant isn't noticing the drone tractor in front, then so what. Why can't the drone car occupant enter a command to pass the Tractor? Simple enough to input, and to implement.
Because in a high traffic situation, with thousands of autos driving 3 meters from each other, all of the other cars will need to move to accomodate your desire to pass the Tractor. MOr of the needed communications.
But you do bring up a good point about stopping distance. Who determines the stopping distance of thousands of cars when some non compliant deer who doesn't know that this autonomous stuff is seriously simple walks out on the road? If a panic stop is needed - and they will be needed. Do we just assume that every single vehicle in say, a thousand auto "train" will all be able to stop in the same distance? I's never worked that way yet.
The fact that people still eat Cavendish bananas, Red Delicious apples and various varieties of ludicrously orange oranges with skins like pachyderms. is testament to the fact that American consumers really don't want fruit that tastes good as much as they want fruit that looks like it was rendered in a 3D program.
I mostly agree with you about the Red delicious apples, which are just worthless, and those creepy oranges, but you're allowing your hatred of all things American to get in the way of your reasoning. Cavendish is not a fragile berry, and it handles being shipped to the land you don't like.
Red delicious as noted is like eating crunchy cardboard, but at the supermarkets, I have many varieties to choose from. And as soon as a variety shows up that we haven't had, my wife buys some and we give 'em a try. Many look nothing like a 3-d apple.
Pretty much the same with oranges. That weird nasty orange with not much flavor and thick skin shows up once in a while in markets, but there are a lot of good varieties to choose from. We keep a big bowl of apple varieties, orange varieties, and yes, Cavendish bananas on the dining room table as a snack.
The death of the Cavendish could be a wonderful thing.
So is your point that you applaud the elimination of an export market and the money that it brings in?
Well, they might not for long - but depends on where you are looking and what you are looking for.
The problem with bananas is that the so called desirable ones are the seedless varieties, and they reproduce by corms - Gros Michel bananas are genetically identical to each other, and so are the Cavendish. Any disease that kills one plant will kill all of them.
If we want seeds, we don't have to worry as much about pathogens.
You sound exactly like the guys down at the local bar moaning about how it all went downhill after women got the vote.
You forgot to add:
Thanks, Obama!
Yeah how dare I actually be involved in FOSS projects and see the amount of BS going on these days over the perpetual hurt feelings brigade over words that are used in important functions.
Oh as for the Obama thing? Pro tip: America isn't the centre of the universe, no matter how much you think it is.
Obviously tailgaters weren't the only ones I was thinking of. They're just the less noticeable peril out there. There are also the cars that are driving along behind me at a steady pace, but suddenly accelerate the moment I start signalling for a lane change.
Oh gawd, there is something wrong with those people. I had one guy who was probably 3000 feet away, going 45 in a 45. I pulled onto the highway, and was up to the speed limit in a few seconds. He floored it, came up and tailgated me, then passed me flipped me off and tried the old brake slam trick. I suspect he was having a bad day or something. He had no idea of the danger he was in.
There are the people who negotiate lane mergings and on-ramps by driving all the way out to the end of their lane, then accelerate hard and slip in between the shoulder and the truck I am driving, then jumping right in front of me..
Are you in a big truck? I suspect that entrance ramps are pure hell.
Not germane to the original subject, but the interstate that runs near here slows from 65 to 55 right nearby. There is a major route interchance of 3 how's a few miles in. Then there is 2 lanes thru, 2 lanes right to the other roads, and a exit immediately to the right off the right lanes. plus a intermdiate strip about 600 feet between the thru and rhagt lanse about a lane wide. The people driving who were going 65 don't want to slow down, but they are in the passing lane, but there's a lot of traffic, so they want to be in the right lanes to go onto the other highway, but theres's a lot of traffic, so they are soon going 90 so they can get over. It makes for a game we call I99 Bingo, Where do they end up making their exit? The winner is when you catch a person making an effective 6 lane shit in a space of 600 feetto get off the right exit. Man, those idjits have gotta be pulling some fair lateral G's.
I'm amazed there hasn't been a hundred car pileup - yet.
The service is on, but you have to share it explicitly. Wifi passords are NOT shared by default
You are correct - they do not explicitely give them your password. But they enter it. And thes folks can connect.
Personally, I don't want to have people downloading who knows what on my cable line. Or mooching neighbors, just because they're friends of friends.
And I had to opt out of it, not enable it. And if I want to insure I'm opted out I have to rename my SSID. Which of course, since Microsoft ignores half the privacy settings now anyhow, I believe if I give a W10 user or Windows phone user access, they are probably allowing it regardless of my settings. So they get no access. at all - ever.
Precisely. We haven't figured out yet how to create 100% secure programs, and we already start using software in all places of life, including where people can get killed by malicious software. The damage hackers can cause increases with adoption of networked computers.
Yet you don't get anywhere with the zealots. They have this vision where thousands of cars are happily zipping a long a few feet form each other all in perfect harmony. It's like those old early 20th century future prediction artworks.
Because there is so much more than just 1 car and it's autonomous control - and vulnerability. This is the Grand Big Kahuna of the internet of things.
So if you take a car that needs to switch lanes to exit in the world of full lanes bumper to bumper autonomous driving world, the bumper to bumper cars ahead and behind and in other lanes will need to know this, and allow the car to switch lanes. Dammit, this is not even remotely trivial.
And since this will have to be done via RF , there are some nasty criminal vectors as well:
While it's likely that this in itself wouldn't cause accidents, it would keep cars that might want to turn, switch lanes, or merge form doing that, and mamma, we have a bit of a mess and severe traffic slowdowns.
And then we get to the Internet of Things part. I suppose that's perfectly safe.
Even with all that, It might be possible to end up with a good system. But not right now.
Perhaps we should just get the assist systems ironed out first. Just that will significantly cut down on accidents - lane assist and adaptive cruise control with anti-tailgating radar and anti collision braking. And doesn't have to employ the IoT at all.
Almost no latency? 4th and 10th !! Multiply that up - what about a thousand cars, or ten thousand, all in line in the rush-hour between say London and Reading (on the M4 motorway in the UK).
Siomehow I get the impression that these folk are in Jetson's mode, where you can draw a cartoon, and that's all it takes.Those thousands of cars will all have to know what each other are doing. Easy peasy, and no doubt!
Now mind you, I'm not saying it cannot be done. But simple it is not, and the consequenses of small mistakes in the communications or other electronics cna ruin a lot of people's day.
Now at the moment, I am all about lane assist, tailgating braking radar, and parking assistance and collision avoidance. These aren't glamorous as the idea of hundreds of thousands of cars all travelling at 150 miles per hour, a few feet from each other, in perfect harmony. But they take some incremental steps of increasing safety in a positively.
Lane assist
If 1 meter spacing wasn't safe, they wouldn't be doing it.
Well - maybe. For my own way of thinking the anonymous car driving part is the simple part of the equation.
Foremost is navigation. Let's take a local trip to the grocery store that has you on an interstate for a few miles.
Perhaps a minor inconvenience is that you will no longer just hop in and drive. You'll have to program the car to go to the grocery store, perhaps to stop and get fuel, or any side trips. Impetuosity isn't going to be rewarded here.
So you program the car to run your errands. Now you have ot get onto the interstate. First important thing is you are going to have to communicate with all the other cars where you are getting on so you can be let on, and they have to know your route, at least to the extent that you don't want to be in the thru-lane. So if traffic is busy, the cars in the merge lane will know you are coming on to the road, and will slow to allow you on it. Cars in the other lanes will need to know you don't need to go into their lane, so they don't have to adjust their speed to allow you to merge.
Communications to hundreds of vehicles via RF and having them all in perfect synch is no small task, especialliy if we are going to keep everyone close together.
Another issue is what happens if 1 out of these 100 cars misses the communications form all the other cars. Does it stop? Pull over to the side? What do the cars behind it do?
Another issue is driving 3 meters behind antractor trailer is going to be stressful, and at least very unpleasant at a 3 meter distance. The back of the truck will fill almost your entire field , and certainly will block your vision of the road in front of you.
Other Possible issues:
What if you change your mind where you want to go? Will the route entry software be as agile as your thinking?
Detours, will the system avoid the nasty parts of town? Will the people living in the nasty parts of town take umbrage that the software considers them a nasty part of town?
Pleasure riding, where you don't necessarily know where you want to go?
The software and communication implications are daunting. There is so much more to this than a remark that engineers have thought about this, so all is well. As I noted, control of one car is an interesting task. Control of hundreds, or even thousands of them ast one time, is very very very interesting, and not easy. With those numbers coms complexity, with complexity comes possibility of dangerous mistakes.
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Oh and, I hope you don't having anything Microsoft deems as "unacceptable" such as "pirated" software. ;-)
Not to worry MS will just Uninstall your apps. I mean you did read the eula right?
No they won't. Microsoft is not doing the things they are doing.
... and the binding arbitration clause that's now present in millions of EULA?
Ain't it funny to watch thedissemblingc and tap-dancing? Let's keep badgering the shills - their getting entertaining now.
Though it is pretty hard to beat "They aren't doing what they said they would do, ant peopl report that they are doing because they wouldn't do that, and besides, why would they do that and your Grandma came over last night and updated your computers to Windows ten , but you must not have been paying attention.
What's the next scenario, shills?
I'm not sure what else to tell you. Maybe eventually somebody will make a recording of Windows 10 installing itself, but until then, your assurances fly in the face of my experience, and the reports of several people.
Addendum: do you realize that Microsoft admitted that this was occurring two months ago?
He probably deny's all of the "features" of W10, like the keylogger, the password sharing, and phoning home with things you told them not to after having to opt out of them eh, squiggleslash?
It gets pretty freaky when people tell you you did not see something you saw, or experienced something you experienced. And continue to do so even when proven wrong, as noted by the very company they are shilling for. Kind of like trying to force cognitive dissonance on you.
Like the sibling, I would go with "Someone did this for them". The installation process asks questions throughout the install, before, during, and after. You cannot proceed with the install without answering the questions.
Absolutely. I found one of the neighbors in my house, who got past the security systems, deduced my passphrase, booted my computer and installed Windows 10.
Sounds legit!
So shill, why are you calling all of these people liars?
Right, somebody broke into our locked office building just to maliciously update our OSes? It happened on her computer because her updates were set to "Install updated automatically (recommended)". Perhaps your settings are different. But lots of users have reported Windows 10 installing without any user interaction whatsoever.
Fuggidaboudit! These shills wil just continut to deny reality until you give up. They'll tell you that Microsoft does nothing of th sort, that You don't have to opt out of their key logger, and there isn't even a keyloggewr, and besides, they won't use the kelogger that they dont have that you don't have to opt out of.
Microsoft has been doing you have no choice updates since Windows 8 days, even though they haven't, and even if they id it must have been me in a trance or the neighbor breaking into th ehouse and figuring out our passwords and telling it to update.
Shills? It's really time for you to come up with better lies. The old ones are sounding a little pathetic these days.
and can just reinstall Windows 7 if I find something horribly bad (yes, I have regular backups as well).
[John]
Yeah - "Just"
Actually why do you care about his kids at all? Why should I care about YOUR kids.
That has something to do with being human, and not being a self centered sociopath.
You see, I have a bit of empathy. Someone has a problem, I usually want to help.
You don't.
The Golden rule applies. I'd even help you if you needed it, even though it's clear you wouldn't lift a finger to help anyone but yourself.
No no, they just mine all the land they have, and pile it on top of all the land they mined it from.
If they could do that, then they could probably just make a bunch more land with lava and water in buckets. Alas, meatspace is not nearly as forgiving. No 1ups, just 1mm up at a time
My bad - I was remarking on the difficulties of deep ocean dredging, and comparing it to making a building taller by cutting off the bottome and putting the part you cut off on top. That's what I get for taking NyQuil too early in the evening.
Probably by using an ocean-going dredging machine that shoots the material up onto the beach and then use that. At least for the time being. Or we'll just move 'em. It's not like we're gonna just let 'em drown or anything.
I do suspect that moving will be the answer. My own not terribly precise calculations lead me to believe that we have already stored a lot of energy in the atmosphere, and it's taken a long way to ramp up, and likewise will take a long time to ramp down. So those islands are goners
Anyhow, per your tire burning comment above. Err... Are you saying that I should stop that? 'Cause, man, smelly soot and ruined clothing and coughing fits are what I live for!!! Seriously, even way back in my youth, I never understood why some idiot would throw a tire on a fire. I've seen it done but, frankly, why??? It's not even that spectacular.
I also went out "cow tipping" as a youth. As near as I can tell, you can't really tip a cow over very easily. The tire burning and cow tipping are about as interesting as snipe hunting. I don't see the attraction.
Now if ya wanna see something interesting, burning an old Volkswagen engine block is tons better than a tire. maybe more eco friendly. Certainly pretty bright. And never pour water on a metal fire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
related to cow tipping, friends and I used to have a trick with deer spotting. Shine a bright light on them, they freeze, and we see how close we can get by walking up to them. We stopped when we nearly got sliced by their hooves. But I was young and foolish then, I'm old and foolish now.
It's actually a similar question. Note that they can't even answer the question when it's Kiribati residents vs. the hated bourgeois American middle class. The notion that "these people matter and these other people don't" is one that seems to dissipate when you ask the simple question "why?".
You have utterd the biggest false dichotomy ever made by man. It isn't that Americans will be losing their land if these people are not losing their land.
It isn't even giving up quality of life, unless your hobby is burning old tires in the back yard.
Regardless, you win one internet for the false equivalence.
Why does the Kiribati resident matter more the the American? Why do thousands of Kiribati matter more than millions of Americans?
Why does your son or daughter's life matter more than my potato chips I'm munching on tonight?
Because we are not ISIS you asshole. You might be a sociopath but it ain't a good quality. And for the record, I do care more about your kids than my potato chips. Its as clear as beer pee you have no outlook other than your own Randian view, only you skipped the enlightened part of the self interest.
So have a bag of potato chips, and hope they televise it for your lulz when they drown.
Why can't they just build levies around the island an canals.
Because they are a tiny little nation, and they cannot muster the resources. The smaller the nation, the larger the ratio of coastline to area...
No no, they just mine all the land they have, and pile it on top of all the land they mined it from.
Should be able to raise their altitude infinitely.
Did you consider 'peak'?
Reminds me of peak oil
Which stops faster, the drone car or the the drone tractor? But if the drone car occupant isn't noticing the drone tractor in front, then so what. Why can't the drone car occupant enter a command to pass the Tractor? Simple enough to input, and to implement.
Because in a high traffic situation, with thousands of autos driving 3 meters from each other, all of the other cars will need to move to accomodate your desire to pass the Tractor. MOr of the needed communications.
But you do bring up a good point about stopping distance. Who determines the stopping distance of thousands of cars when some non compliant deer who doesn't know that this autonomous stuff is seriously simple walks out on the road? If a panic stop is needed - and they will be needed. Do we just assume that every single vehicle in say, a thousand auto "train" will all be able to stop in the same distance? I's never worked that way yet.
The fact that people still eat Cavendish bananas, Red Delicious apples and various varieties of ludicrously orange oranges with skins like pachyderms. is testament to the fact that American consumers really don't want fruit that tastes good as much as they want fruit that looks like it was rendered in a 3D program.
I mostly agree with you about the Red delicious apples, which are just worthless, and those creepy oranges, but you're allowing your hatred of all things American to get in the way of your reasoning. Cavendish is not a fragile berry, and it handles being shipped to the land you don't like.
Red delicious as noted is like eating crunchy cardboard, but at the supermarkets, I have many varieties to choose from. And as soon as a variety shows up that we haven't had, my wife buys some and we give 'em a try. Many look nothing like a 3-d apple.
Pretty much the same with oranges. That weird nasty orange with not much flavor and thick skin shows up once in a while in markets, but there are a lot of good varieties to choose from. We keep a big bowl of apple varieties, orange varieties, and yes, Cavendish bananas on the dining room table as a snack.
The death of the Cavendish could be a wonderful thing.
So is your point that you applaud the elimination of an export market and the money that it brings in?
I'm in Asia and the bananas look fine to me.
Well, they might not for long - but depends on where you are looking and what you are looking for.
The problem with bananas is that the so called desirable ones are the seedless varieties, and they reproduce by corms - Gros Michel bananas are genetically identical to each other, and so are the Cavendish. Any disease that kills one plant will kill all of them.
If we want seeds, we don't have to worry as much about pathogens.
You sound exactly like the guys down at the local bar moaning about how it all went downhill after women got the vote.
You forgot to add:
Thanks, Obama!
Yeah how dare I actually be involved in FOSS projects and see the amount of BS going on these days over the perpetual hurt feelings brigade over words that are used in important functions.
Oh as for the Obama thing? Pro tip: America isn't the centre of the universe, no matter how much you think it is.
You mad bro?
Obviously tailgaters weren't the only ones I was thinking of. They're just the less noticeable peril out there. There are also the cars that are driving along behind me at a steady pace, but suddenly accelerate the moment I start signalling for a lane change.
Oh gawd, there is something wrong with those people. I had one guy who was probably 3000 feet away, going 45 in a 45. I pulled onto the highway, and was up to the speed limit in a few seconds. He floored it, came up and tailgated me, then passed me flipped me off and tried the old brake slam trick. I suspect he was having a bad day or something. He had no idea of the danger he was in.
There are the people who negotiate lane mergings and on-ramps by driving all the way out to the end of their lane, then accelerate hard and slip in between the shoulder and the truck I am driving, then jumping right in front of me..
Are you in a big truck? I suspect that entrance ramps are pure hell.
Not germane to the original subject, but the interstate that runs near here slows from 65 to 55 right nearby. There is a major route interchance of 3 how's a few miles in. Then there is 2 lanes thru, 2 lanes right to the other roads, and a exit immediately to the right off the right lanes. plus a intermdiate strip about 600 feet between the thru and rhagt lanse about a lane wide. The people driving who were going 65 don't want to slow down, but they are in the passing lane, but there's a lot of traffic, so they want to be in the right lanes to go onto the other highway, but theres's a lot of traffic, so they are soon going 90 so they can get over. It makes for a game we call I99 Bingo, Where do they end up making their exit? The winner is when you catch a person making an effective 6 lane shit in a space of 600 feetto get off the right exit. Man, those idjits have gotta be pulling some fair lateral G's.
I'm amazed there hasn't been a hundred car pileup - yet.
The service is on, but you have to share it explicitly. Wifi passords are NOT shared by default
You are correct - they do not explicitely give them your password. But they enter it. And thes folks can connect.
Personally, I don't want to have people downloading who knows what on my cable line. Or mooching neighbors, just because they're friends of friends.
And I had to opt out of it, not enable it. And if I want to insure I'm opted out I have to rename my SSID. Which of course, since Microsoft ignores half the privacy settings now anyhow, I believe if I give a W10 user or Windows phone user access, they are probably allowing it regardless of my settings. So they get no access. at all - ever.
If this isn't pernicious to you, not much is.
Precisely. We haven't figured out yet how to create 100% secure programs, and we already start using software in all places of life, including where people can get killed by malicious software. The damage hackers can cause increases with adoption of networked computers.
Yet you don't get anywhere with the zealots. They have this vision where thousands of cars are happily zipping a long a few feet form each other all in perfect harmony. It's like those old early 20th century future prediction artworks.
Because there is so much more than just 1 car and it's autonomous control - and vulnerability. This is the Grand Big Kahuna of the internet of things.
So if you take a car that needs to switch lanes to exit in the world of full lanes bumper to bumper autonomous driving world, the bumper to bumper cars ahead and behind and in other lanes will need to know this, and allow the car to switch lanes. Dammit, this is not even remotely trivial.
And since this will have to be done via RF , there are some nasty criminal vectors as well:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
http://965kvki.com/watch-cell-...
Now imagine some crazy shit pulling that stunt.
While it's likely that this in itself wouldn't cause accidents, it would keep cars that might want to turn, switch lanes, or merge form doing that, and mamma, we have a bit of a mess and severe traffic slowdowns.
And then we get to the Internet of Things part. I suppose that's perfectly safe.
Even with all that, It might be possible to end up with a good system. But not right now.
Perhaps we should just get the assist systems ironed out first. Just that will significantly cut down on accidents - lane assist and adaptive cruise control with anti-tailgating radar and anti collision braking. And doesn't have to employ the IoT at all.
[Regarding cars travelling packed together]
Almost no latency? 4th and 10th !! Multiply that up - what about a thousand cars, or ten thousand, all in line in the rush-hour between say London and Reading (on the M4 motorway in the UK).
Siomehow I get the impression that these folk are in Jetson's mode, where you can draw a cartoon, and that's all it takes.Those thousands of cars will all have to know what each other are doing. Easy peasy, and no doubt!
Now mind you, I'm not saying it cannot be done. But simple it is not, and the consequenses of small mistakes in the communications or other electronics cna ruin a lot of people's day.
Now at the moment, I am all about lane assist, tailgating braking radar, and parking assistance and collision avoidance. These aren't glamorous as the idea of hundreds of thousands of cars all travelling at 150 miles per hour, a few feet from each other, in perfect harmony. But they take some incremental steps of increasing safety in a positively. Lane assist
http://www.toyota-global.com/i...
other stuff:
http://delphi.com/manufacturer...
If 1 meter spacing wasn't safe, they wouldn't be doing it.
Well - maybe. For my own way of thinking the anonymous car driving part is the simple part of the equation.
Foremost is navigation. Let's take a local trip to the grocery store that has you on an interstate for a few miles.
Perhaps a minor inconvenience is that you will no longer just hop in and drive. You'll have to program the car to go to the grocery store, perhaps to stop and get fuel, or any side trips. Impetuosity isn't going to be rewarded here.
So you program the car to run your errands. Now you have ot get onto the interstate. First important thing is you are going to have to communicate with all the other cars where you are getting on so you can be let on, and they have to know your route, at least to the extent that you don't want to be in the thru-lane. So if traffic is busy, the cars in the merge lane will know you are coming on to the road, and will slow to allow you on it. Cars in the other lanes will need to know you don't need to go into their lane, so they don't have to adjust their speed to allow you to merge.
Communications to hundreds of vehicles via RF and having them all in perfect synch is no small task, especialliy if we are going to keep everyone close together. Another issue is what happens if 1 out of these 100 cars misses the communications form all the other cars. Does it stop? Pull over to the side? What do the cars behind it do?
Another issue is driving 3 meters behind antractor trailer is going to be stressful, and at least very unpleasant at a 3 meter distance. The back of the truck will fill almost your entire field , and certainly will block your vision of the road in front of you. Other Possible issues:
What if you change your mind where you want to go? Will the route entry software be as agile as your thinking?
Detours, will the system avoid the nasty parts of town? Will the people living in the nasty parts of town take umbrage that the software considers them a nasty part of town?
Pleasure riding, where you don't necessarily know where you want to go?
The software and communication implications are daunting. There is so much more to this than a remark that engineers have thought about this, so all is well. As I noted, control of one car is an interesting task. Control of hundreds, or even thousands of them ast one time, is very very very interesting, and not easy. With those numbers coms complexity, with complexity comes possibility of dangerous mistakes.
I think maybe they wanted to stay in business. Your waxing rhapsodic about them doesn't do much at all for them.
Excuse me, but if I were to buy a Porsche, I want a bitchin turbo-charged 6-speed with the awesome suspension and braking they're known for.
If you haven't bought one, as your "If" comment tells us, it merely tells Porsche they don't have a customer.