The only reason Slashdot should have posted this story is that this crock of line noise is that other media (read Forbes) accept this stuff lock, stock and festering barrel of line noise. CoybowNeal is smart enough (which isn't a compliment:) to know who Y2K-Is-Going-To-Kill-Us-All mi2g is.
Posting the story here gets Slashdot added to the cluster of international stories that appear on Google News and provide a way for debunking to reach outside our little community of line noise detectors.
Friend of mine worked in a high-level tech position with Monster. Time came for me to look for a job a while back and I asked his advice where to look. Without hesitation he said: don't bother with web job boards.
I wish I listened. I posted my resume and was innundated with MLM offers, "career counsuling" and resume writing services, and "opportunities" to become a "branch manager" with Citibank (!?), who was opening 50+ branches in my area (!?).
Beware: if you post your information on Monster or the other general job boards, you *will* get email that sounds like a request for an interview for a position but is careful constructed to *not* precisely say that it's really a high-priced Want Ad re-distribution scam. Oops. What a joke. Here's a sample:
From: Careers [mailto:careers@pxxxx-txxxxx.com]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:09 AM
To: []
Subject: Interview
Hello Robert,
My name is Mr. Txxxxx Wxxxx and I am a consultant with
Pxxxxx-Txxxxx. I am e-mailing you because your credentials have just
come across my desk and I must say they are very impressive. I am
working on filling numerous job searches and you may qualify for one or
more. I would like to sit down with you to explore your background
sometime this week for about one half hour to see if in fact we could
help place you. My direct line is 949-721-6xxx and when you call if I
am not available, please leave a message with a couple of good days and
times for you to meet. I schedule appointments from 7 AM to 3:30 PM
Monday through Friday. Please call in today.
Thank You,
Mr. Txxxx Wxxxx
Consultant
Pxxxxx-Txxxxx, LLC
949-721-6xxx
I wrote back saying that a simple Google search on his company's name turned up numerous "Pxxxx-Txxxx is a SCAM!" web pages and, knowing the Internet is want to exaggerate grievances, could he answer back a short statement to easy my apprehension. No response. I guess my impressive credentials weren't impressive enough to warrant the effort...
However, having been on the other side as an employer looking to fill a tech position I found Monster quite effective at producing skads of resumes for me to glean from. Wow. An entry level position with high bar qualifications garnered quite a number of resumes. However, this being the Internet, it is all too easy to click and send a resume/application for a job that you're not qualified for or that you're not truly interested in. I was not impressed with the candidates.
So, it's true: it's who you know. My best jobs, my best hires -- those I've had personal contact with.
(You did note that I made clear referrence to the 26 letters of the English language, didn't you?)
(Um, did you realize that doing so made clear that the context of my comments were "English" letters?)
(Do you think I should have mentioned the Commonality of the CCCP and CCP; of course, though both were communist organizations, the Canadian Communist Party didn't use Cyrillic letters for its initials. Do you understand why mixing the CCP and the CCCP would be a mistake whereas comparing the letters USA and USSR would not?)
(Did you know that the Beatles had a song called "Back in the CCCP?" Neither did I.)
(Have you deduced I don't have patience for meaningless corrections to problems that do not exist?)
Then how do you distinguish between Microsoft and IBM? Israel and Iraq? -- or Iran and Iran? Going back a few years, USA and USSR?
There's only 26 letters in the English alphabet, and the most commonly used are RNSTLE (can a WheelWatcher verify this for me?) so some amount of overlap is to be expected...
That SCO and SUN are sharing the same bed of fornication is proven by their debt instrument investment vis-a-vis "SCOSource License Agreement."
First, SCO needs to show infringing lines of
code. The court directed SCO to provide to IBM what
IBM requested in discovery and one item, the main item, were lines of code from original Unix that are
in Linux by means of IBM. SCO only responded with code not in original UNIX, but programs wholely written by (at the time) Sequent and IBM. SCO's contention is that since they touched UNIX they are UNIX is a *##&*$&)$#@ +++ATH OK
We need to turn the argument around: instead of pretending code will never fall into the wrong hands and coding the OS accordingly (the fallacy of Security Through Obscurity - the obscure tends not to stay thusly), choose an OS that is designed knowing anyone can and will look at the code (Security Through Security - much better).
Burn some Live CDs to hand out to friends, family, co-workers. Introduce them to Linux and warn them of the dangers of LOOKING AT IMAGES using Internet Explorer 5.0.
There are many good ones*. Personally I fell in love with the Knoppix 3.4 c't edition with the 2.6 kernel -- using it gave me my first experience of non-stuttering KDE with heavy loads, looping MP3s and lots of useable features (except detecting the Dell Inspiron 5150's on board WiFi -- not Centrino).
Pick several, spend a few bucks on good CD-R discs, make a nice label with "do exactly these steps" instructions on the label.
It's not about world domination, it's about stopping the theiving cracker spammers from gaining more zombie Windows boxes to do their bidding and ruin the Internet for the rest of us.
completly different to Americans thinking that their state has more right to its name than the country, which had the name for much longer.
My friend, at no point did I nor anyone suggest that the only legitimate Georgia was the Peach State. What did occur was this:
A US-based, American-run website posted a story about Touch-screen voting issues in Georgia, which would be naturally understood as the "State of" to the context of the authors and the vast majority of the readers -- even if they are not in the US
Although the story references the Atlanta Urinal & Constipation, a Troll pays money to rag on the lack of distinction between Georgia the State and Georgia the very-unlikely-to-be-using-touch-screens-anytime-so on country.
Said Troll uses the occassion invented by itself (him? her?) to complain about American-centrism.
Realizing the Troll game I briefly responded that it was altogether natural to assume that the default context was the State of Georgia, and as a justification I cited the Golden Rule -- he who has the Gold makes the Rules -- as is applied to nations.
At no time was the former Soviet satellite in dnager of being renamed Georginski, or any other substitute. Never was a claim made that the State named after King George I (whose son my ancestors fought in the Jacobite Rebellion [the McQueens] being subsequently deported to the New World and whose grandson others fought [the Taylors] in the Revolutionary War, but I digress as one lacking regular sleep is prone to doing) should have more or less right than the country. The only point being that when Americans write for an American-run website to a largely American audience in an American-dominated world (how many people around the world saw "The Breast", again? Anyway, America is the only country that can have a sport whose teams all are based in the US and that can call the winners "World Champions" without raising eyebrows) to assume a default American cultural point of reference unless clarified otherwise.
So, there's lots to which you can disagree with me, and there's plenty opportunity I've given for you to challenge me on, but still you continue to appear to be replying to the wrong parent post.
Thing One: "Where are the Americans?" Thing Two: "Isn't it obvious?" Thing One: "Uh...no?" Thing Two: "Who killed all these Europeans?" Thing One: "Oh. Right."
Wow. I am always amazed at the strength of people's convictions when based upon the sandstone foundation of ignorance. Let's take a look at your passionate retort.
Since when has there been a country called "Grenwich"?
What a great counter to my point! If my point was that Greenwich was a country...alas, it was not. The point was that by the 1880's Britain was undoubtedly the reigning world superpower. France tried to resist Greenwich, England as the world's Prime Meridian in favor of its own Paris, but in the end capitulated (a theme to be repeated quite often in the next 120+ years).
GMT is... an internationally decided standard.
*Snicker* International. *Snicker*
GMT seemed a good choice (the size of the British Empire had something to do with it, I'm sure, but that still doesn't make your comment the slightest bit relevent).
Yeah. They picked it because of the scientific discovery that there is a longitudinal ridge that passes through the village of Greenwich and makes a really good marker to count revolutions on an otherwise roundish planet. That it was the choice of Britain, the reigning world superpower, definitely had no relevance. (By the way, thanks for helping me make my point.)
Of course, we could also get into the America!=USA debate, but I'd rather not bother.
Why not, then? After all I didn't bring it up, but when has that stopped you before? Here's my answer to US != America: Without the US there would not be an America, North nor especially South or Central. This would be Europe 2, or, New England and New Spain. Heard of the Monroe Doctrine? The position that the US took -- Europe, stay out of America's affairs and we'll stay out of yours -- created America as a separate entity from Europe (follow the link, it is interesting to note that though the doctrine was Monroe's the enforcement was carried out by the British Navy for the first 100 years; interesting). So, while US != America, America - US = Null.
Thanks for playing! We have some lovely parting gifts for you right through that door, bye!
This story reminds me that I've never seen Darkside of the Rainbow. Anyway, sometimes Art comes from two used up overplayed has beens that in combination make a new compilation and entertains a new generation.
(BTW,you decide which among the White Album, Black Album, Darkside of the Moon, Wizard of Oz are the "used up overplayed has beens", if any; I ain't goin' there.)
How many of you ACs that posted in the MS Source Code Leak story the other day with your reports of what's in the code you downloaded got a bit nervous when you read this story today?
I grabbed the c't Knoppix 3.4 with 2.6 kernel: utterly fantastic. What a way to play with the new kernel! And the results: I spent the whole day in Knoppix while managing servers, writing code, corresponding, web surfing, building SCO attack viruses (*KIDDING*)...al while listening to mp3's from my laptop's NTFS harddrive. No matter how many apps I had running, no matter the load KDE didn't get jerky and there was nary a skip, stutter or pause in the music. All from a OS running off a CD. Wow. It was without a doubt faster than XP Pro on the same box -- in user experience, anyway. Very nice!
Someone may have already brought this up (I'm lazy to look) but there was a high-profile break in revealed in the year 2000 in which someone ostensibly based in Russia was able to get Windows code directly from Microsoft.
That it would now be circulating is probably a sign that whoever wanted it is done looking and wants to ShareSource.
Don't be smug. Linux vendors better be careful -- they could be next!
Re:SCO UNIX(R) has a Committed, Well-Defined Roadm
on
SCOoby Snacks
·
· Score: 1
I think they're rather intent on suing those who run UNIX platforms from SCO! In fact, that seems to be the only ones they're threatening (IBM, SGI, and the SCO Unix licensees with their "swear you comply or die!" letter of last month).
Slashdot Mirror
Posting the story here gets Slashdot added to the cluster of international stories that appear on Google News and provide a way for debunking to reach outside our little community of line noise detectors.
Still, it's annoying.
Read Why is mi2g so unpopular?
Then read this complete debunking of the scam^Wfirm.
Slashdot is trolling us -- did I wake up in Soviet Russia??
I wish I listened. I posted my resume and was innundated with MLM offers, "career counsuling" and resume writing services, and "opportunities" to become a "branch manager" with Citibank (!?), who was opening 50+ branches in my area (!?).
Beware: if you post your information on Monster or the other general job boards, you *will* get email that sounds like a request for an interview for a position but is careful constructed to *not* precisely say that it's really a high-priced Want Ad re-distribution scam. Oops. What a joke. Here's a sample:
I wrote back saying that a simple Google search on his company's name turned up numerous "Pxxxx-Txxxx is a SCAM!" web pages and, knowing the Internet is want to exaggerate grievances, could he answer back a short statement to easy my apprehension. No response. I guess my impressive credentials weren't impressive enough to warrant the effort...However, having been on the other side as an employer looking to fill a tech position I found Monster quite effective at producing skads of resumes for me to glean from. Wow. An entry level position with high bar qualifications garnered quite a number of resumes. However, this being the Internet, it is all too easy to click and send a resume/application for a job that you're not qualified for or that you're not truly interested in. I was not impressed with the candidates.
So, it's true: it's who you know. My best jobs, my best hires -- those I've had personal contact with.
It's funnier to see you guys write!
Yeah, it was a little hard for me to distinguish, too.
Thanks, Sherlock!
(You did note that I made clear referrence to the 26 letters of the English language, didn't you?)
(Um, did you realize that doing so made clear that the context of my comments were "English" letters?)
(Do you think I should have mentioned the Commonality of the CCCP and CCP; of course, though both were communist organizations, the Canadian Communist Party didn't use Cyrillic letters for its initials. Do you understand why mixing the CCP and the CCCP would be a mistake whereas comparing the letters USA and USSR would not?)
(Did you know that the Beatles had a song called "Back in the CCCP?" Neither did I.)
(Have you deduced I don't have patience for meaningless corrections to problems that do not exist?)
(In the future, please use bugzilla. Thanks.)
Iraq and Iran. Sorry. Those two confuse even me!
Then how do you distinguish between Microsoft and IBM?
Israel and Iraq? -- or Iran and Iran?
Going back a few years, USA and USSR?
There's only 26 letters in the English alphabet, and the most commonly used are RNSTLE (can a WheelWatcher verify this for me?) so some amount of overlap is to be expected...
That SCO and SUN are sharing the same bed of fornication is proven by their debt instrument investment vis-a-vis "SCOSource License Agreement."
Precisely!
First, SCO needs to show infringing lines of
code. The court directed SCO to provide to IBM what
IBM requested in discovery and one item, the main
item, were lines of code from original Unix that are
in Linux by means of IBM. SCO only responded with
code not in original UNIX, but programs wholely
written by (at the time) Sequent and IBM. SCO's
contention is that since they touched UNIX they are
UNIX is a *##&*$&)$#@
+++ATH
OK
That's exactly why I changed my .sig.
We need to turn the argument around: instead of
pretending code will never fall into the wrong
hands and coding the OS accordingly (the fallacy
of Security Through Obscurity - the obscure
tends not to stay thusly), choose an OS that is
designed knowing anyone can and will look at the
code (Security Through Security - much better).
- Somebody,
- please, monitor this bug (or teach me how to monitor it)
Use this linkThen use this one.
Burn some Live CDs to hand out to friends,
n ux
family, co-workers. Introduce them to Linux and
warn them of the dangers of LOOKING AT IMAGES
using Internet Explorer 5.0.
There are many good ones*. Personally I fell in
love with the Knoppix 3.4 c't edition with the
2.6 kernel -- using it gave me my first
experience of non-stuttering KDE with heavy
loads, looping MP3s and lots of useable features
(except detecting the Dell Inspiron 5150's on
board WiFi -- not Centrino).
Pick several, spend a few bucks on good CD-R
discs, make a nice label with "do exactly these
steps" instructions on the label.
It's not about world domination, it's about
stopping the theiving cracker spammers from
gaining more zombie Windows boxes to do their
bidding and ruin the Internet for the rest of us.
* start here:
http://www.google.com/search?q=live+cds+li
I suppose it was an "international" decision that put the UN in New York?
- completly different to Americans thinking that their state has more right to its name than the country, which had the name for much longer.
My friend, at no point did I nor anyone suggest that the only legitimate Georgia was the Peach State. What did occur was this:- A US-based, American-run website posted a story about Touch-screen voting issues in Georgia, which would be naturally understood as the "State of" to the context of the authors and the vast majority of the readers -- even if they are not in the US
- Although the story references the Atlanta Urinal & Constipation, a Troll pays money to rag on the lack of distinction between Georgia the State and Georgia the very-unlikely-to-be-using-touch-screens-anytime-s
o on country. - Said Troll uses the occassion invented by itself (him? her?) to complain about American-centrism.
- Realizing the Troll game I briefly responded that it was altogether natural to assume that the default context was the State of Georgia, and as a justification I cited the Golden Rule -- he who has the Gold makes the Rules -- as is applied to nations.
At no time was the former Soviet satellite in dnager of being renamed Georginski, or any other substitute. Never was a claim made that the State named after King George I (whose son my ancestors fought in the Jacobite Rebellion [the McQueens] being subsequently deported to the New World and whose grandson others fought [the Taylors] in the Revolutionary War, but I digress as one lacking regular sleep is prone to doing) should have more or less right than the country. The only point being that when Americans write for an American-run website to a largely American audience in an American-dominated world (how many people around the world saw "The Breast", again? Anyway, America is the only country that can have a sport whose teams all are based in the US and that can call the winners "World Champions" without raising eyebrows) to assume a default American cultural point of reference unless clarified otherwise.So, there's lots to which you can disagree with me, and there's plenty opportunity I've given for you to challenge me on, but still you continue to appear to be replying to the wrong parent post.
Strange, that.
Thing One: "Where are the Americans?"
Thing Two: "Isn't it obvious?"
Thing One: "Uh...no?"
Thing Two: "Who killed all these Europeans?"
Thing One: "Oh. Right."
- Since when has there been a country called "Grenwich"?
What a great counter to my point! If my point was that Greenwich was a country...alas, it was not. The point was that by the 1880's Britain was undoubtedly the reigning world superpower. France tried to resist Greenwich, England as the world's Prime Meridian in favor of its own Paris, but in the end capitulated (a theme to be repeated quite often in the next 120+ years).- GMT is
... an internationally decided standard.
*Snicker* International. *Snicker*- GMT seemed a good choice (the size of the British Empire had something to do with it, I'm sure, but that still doesn't make your comment the slightest bit relevent).
Yeah. They picked it because of the scientific discovery that there is a longitudinal ridge that passes through the village of Greenwich and makes a really good marker to count revolutions on an otherwise roundish planet. That it was the choice of Britain, the reigning world superpower, definitely had no relevance. (By the way, thanks for helping me make my point.)-
Of course, we could also get into the America!=USA debate, but I'd rather not bother.
Why not, then? After all I didn't bring it up, but when has that stopped you before? Here's my answer to US != America: Without the US there would not be an America, North nor especially South or Central. This would be Europe 2, or, New England and New Spain. Heard of the Monroe Doctrine? The position that the US took -- Europe, stay out of America's affairs and we'll stay out of yours -- created America as a separate entity from Europe (follow the link, it is interesting to note that though the doctrine was Monroe's the enforcement was carried out by the British Navy for the first 100 years; interesting). So, while US != America, America - US = Null.Thanks for playing! We have some lovely parting gifts for you right through that door, bye!
No. The prevailing Superpower gets to be the default context. Think "GMT" and the British Empire before us (us, meaning US).
Don't mod this as funny.
Good thing you don't use an IP address nor are related to the links in your profile and .sig.
Right?
Anyway, sometimes Art comes from two used up overplayed has beens
that in combination make a new compilation and entertains a new generation.
(BTW,you decide which among the White Album,
Black Album, Darkside of the Moon, Wizard of Oz are the
"used up overplayed has beens", if any; I ain't goin' there.)
How many of you ACs that posted in the MS Source Code Leak story
the other day with your reports of what's in the code you downloaded
got a bit nervous when you read this story today?
I grabbed the c't Knoppix 3.4 with 2.6 kernel: utterly fantastic. What a way to play with the new kernel! And the results: I spent the whole day in Knoppix while managing servers, writing code, corresponding, web surfing, building SCO attack viruses (*KIDDING*)...al while listening to mp3's from my laptop's NTFS harddrive. No matter how many apps I had running, no matter the load KDE didn't get jerky and there was nary a skip, stutter or pause in the music. All from a OS running off a CD. Wow. It was without a doubt faster than XP Pro on the same box -- in user experience, anyway. Very nice!
I believe you. But then I suspect your reading comprehension is rather low:
- Anyone looking at this code could bring to an end any opportunity to contribute to FOSS software in the future.
Source: http://www.groklaw.net by PJoops.
Someone may have already brought this up (I'm lazy to look) but there was a high-profile break in revealed in the year 2000 in which someone ostensibly based in Russia was able to get Windows code directly from Microsoft.
That it would now be circulating is probably a sign that whoever wanted it is done looking and wants to ShareSource.
Don't be smug. Linux vendors better be careful -- they could be next!
I think they're rather intent on suing those who run UNIX platforms from SCO! In fact, that seems to be the only ones they're threatening (IBM, SGI, and the SCO Unix licensees with their "swear you comply or die!" letter of last month).