Grrr. The Web didn't ruin the encyclopaedia business. The enclyclopaedia companies didn't adjust for the changing market conditions and technology advances.
Saying the web ruined something makes the Encyclopaedia companies appear to be the hapless victims of tehcnological aggression.
So, tell the pointed headed encyclical editors to "giddy-up" and get with the times. Obviously the market has moved AWAY from them not because of some devilish scheme from Tim Burners-Lee but because what they have to offer in the way they are offering it (and I refer to the on-line, CD and paper editions) is just not needed/desired as much as in previous years.
The biggest problem with the Encyclopaedia Companies is that they saw themselves as Encyclopaedia Companies and not information dispensers. If they saw their task on a deeper level than thick leather-bound volumes (i.e., content-focused not package-focused) they would have been on the forefront of the evolution of information cataloguing, referencing, and accessing via the WWW versus being plummeled by the shifting times.
But if Chris Stone says anything about "Monetizing Linux" or Open Source, please stand up and walk out. That's what should have happened to Darl Gates, er, McBride when he said he was going to turn Caldera/SCOGrope into "bottled water" sellers.
Novell is a Good Guy right now but Can'O'Pee and SCOGrope come from Novell...albeit an earlier incarnation with Noorda.
Companies, especially publicly traded ones, have loyalties to stockholders and are subject to spot-on 180's in pursuit of increasing stockholder value.
So, no offense, Novell and Chris, but I think you understand why we might be liking to keep things platonic right now.
Keep it up, Novell. You're winning many new friends.
I worked for a very wealthy man until late last year. Long story. Anyway, he wrote a letter of recommendation on my behalf for grad school. Usually such things are not read by the applicant but he made a copy so I could see what he wrote. Santa Mater Dei... horrific grammar, Slashdot-editor-like spelling and simpleton concepts. Wow. Anyway, that was the way he communicated informally, which I could understand as we all get in a hurry, but even formal writing was the same! At that moment I realized how much I must have offended him when making fun of the web site content I *thought* someone else had written but he actually had. Oops. (We were the only pharmaceutical with "Funky, funky" hip-hop on the splash page (that we had a splash page at all was a different issue...)).
You would have really caught me there -- if I was saying Yahoo didn't return PuTTY as the first results for the search term "putty".:)
My post focused on the consistent usefulness of Google. Previously I complained about Yahoo agreeing to insert paid links in their search results. That sucks. Google (as far as I know) does not do that and yet manages to be relevant and accurate. Yahoo excusing their deviation from the realm of the ethical search provider by saying doing so will result in better search results is blowing smoke.
I never claimed Yahoo didn't give PuTTY as a first result. That's irrelevant.
Please take a refresher in reading comprehension before flying off the handle.
Google gives accurate results. That's the most important thing about Google search results: they're accurate.
When I want to download a new version of the ssh client I use on Windows machines, I goto Google and type "putty" in the search field. Then I hit enter.
Every time I am brought through the "deep web of billions of pages" to the most relevant site for Internet users looking for something called "putty." No, it's not SillyPutty (that's second.) It's not Home Depot. It is www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ which is the home of PuTTY, the Windows SSH client extraordinaire.
The Yahoo spokesperson who spun Yahoo's paid results as a benefit to using the "deep web" hopes his listeners aren't Internet users. Or, at least, aren't Google users. We don't fall for that crap.
The reason Google kicked ass in 1999 (when I found it; so call me a late comer, it's ok) is that it
1) Was simple 2) Was clean 3) Wasn't a portal 4) Gave honest results
The reason it continues to kick ass is that it 1) Left the 1999 values in place 2) Clearly demarks paid results from algorithmic 3) Provides honest results (including countermanding manipulation attempts)
Reagrding a being portal: if Google added email I'd be interested. If it added a "my" page, I'd sign up. Google has impressed me to no end unlike almost any other popular web site (I'd have to add Groklaw to my list of trusted sites; and LWN).
If Yahoo wants to replace Google in my life it needs to undo years of bad moves. "Launch," anyone? Funny thing is, I use Yahoo as my email host (and I pay for it); I even have the same my.yahoo.com page I first made in 1999. It's still my browser's home page. But I spend far more time using Google than using Yahoo, even though I'm commited to so many services Yahoo provides. The first time I was tempted to change home pages was when Google News came out. I did change, for a while. But my email is with Yahoo. All it would take to make me a Google Goon would be for Google to offer email services.
So, the news that Yahoo will skew results for the highest bidder doesn't concern me -- I haven't used Yahoo search in... 6 months? Maybe once a month prior to that?
My!Yahoo may be my start page, but my browser, Firefox, has Google built-in "every" page I visit (and I doubt that's because Google paid the Open Source project to do it).
Bye Yahoo. Thanks for employing Jeremy Zawodny and letting him talk/write about MySQL. Thanks for having a fairly decent email service (not thanks for not opening up an alernate port to port 25 which is blocked by many ISPs). Thanks, but I don't know how long I'll be around. Couple months, maybe just due to inertia.
Why shouldn't a mouse work with Linux? Or would it not use a standard mouse interface?
move_mouse(x,y)
Wooo works with Linux.
Almost as amazing as ads that proclaim their TouchScreens "work with Linux!!" -- er, a touchscreen is a mouse, or so thinks your computer. Or "Our keyboard wedge barcode scanner works with Linux!!!"; its a hardware trick that mimics keyboard input, so of course it does.
A friend of mine in college got a Bachelor of Arts in Computer Science. Less math/programming. This was at University of North Texas between '85 and '90.
Others opt for business Information Systems. Some programming, just for gits and shiggles, some design, blah blah. Benefit: be the boss of your arrogant techie friends...:)
Don't be too surprised that people would fall for an out-of-place external reader -- the "Box on a Chair" to receive deposits at an ATM with a paper sign reading "Sorry - ATM Out Of Order. Please place deposits in the box provided below. Be sure to fill out your account number with PIN on your deposit slip for proper deposit credit" works EVERYTIME.
Actually, a friend of mine is a system admin with JPL and he had to drive out to the San Bernadino soundstage where the rovers are being filmed and reboot the computer a 4AM. The funny thing is he left a tool chest and sleeping bag (he was using it to minimize footprints and body impression, not sleep on the job!) where the Opportunity rover was scheduled to peek over the horizon and the ensuing photo of the tool chest / sleeping bag on the horizon had to be quickly -- and deftly, I must say -- explained away as being Opportunity's back shell and parachuete.
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- In addition the moon probably gets way more raditation from Saturn...
That would be a neat trick, considering how close the Jupiter moon, Europa, is to, uh, Jupiter.Had to be said, or, sadi, as appropriate.
I think if PJ were truly the "former editor" of Groklaw that would be a news story, or 7 (this is slashdot) by itself!
Yikes!
In other news, God, former creator of the universe...
Interjecting humilitating criticism in the midst of a debate is just the kind of thing Nazis did in Germany.
Well, I guess this thread is official over, now, wouldn't you say?
Before I answer your question, please tell me what is this "girlfriend" you talk about?
- $_ = '' if $province =~
/Quebec/i || $lang =~ /(?:french|franc|frog);
Quebec: making the French look resolute by comparison since June 22, 1940.Grrr. The Web didn't ruin the encyclopaedia business. The enclyclopaedia companies didn't adjust for the changing market conditions and technology advances.
Saying the web ruined something makes the Encyclopaedia companies appear to be the hapless victims of tehcnological aggression.
So, tell the pointed headed encyclical editors to "giddy-up" and get with the times. Obviously the market has moved AWAY from them not because of some devilish scheme from Tim Burners-Lee but because what they have to offer in the way they are offering it (and I refer to the on-line, CD and paper editions) is just not needed/desired as much as in previous years.
The biggest problem with the Encyclopaedia Companies is that they saw themselves as Encyclopaedia Companies and not information dispensers. If they saw their task on a deeper level than thick leather-bound volumes (i.e., content-focused not package-focused) they would have been on the forefront of the evolution of information cataloguing, referencing, and accessing via the WWW versus being plummeled by the shifting times.
Novell is a Good Guy right now but Can'O'Pee and SCOGrope come from Novell...albeit an earlier incarnation with Noorda.
Companies, especially publicly traded ones, have loyalties to stockholders and are subject to spot-on 180's in pursuit of increasing stockholder value.
So, no offense, Novell and Chris, but I think you understand why we might be liking to keep things platonic right now.
Keep it up, Novell. You're winning many new friends.
I worked for a very wealthy man until late last year. Long story. Anyway, he wrote a letter of recommendation on my behalf for grad school. Usually such things are not read by the applicant but he made a copy so I could see what he wrote. Santa Mater Dei... horrific grammar, Slashdot-editor-like spelling and simpleton concepts. Wow. Anyway, that was the way he communicated informally, which I could understand as we all get in a hurry, but even formal writing was the same! At that moment I realized how much I must have offended him when making fun of the web site content I *thought* someone else had written but he actually had. Oops. (We were the only pharmaceutical with "Funky, funky" hip-hop on the splash page (that we had a splash page at all was a different issue...)).
I'll check it out. Say, do you think you could make a SWF search engine that could grab the users email address and...oh, never mind....
You would have really caught me there -- if I was saying Yahoo didn't return PuTTY as the first results for the search term "putty". :)
My post focused on the consistent usefulness of Google. Previously I complained about Yahoo agreeing to insert paid links in their search results. That sucks. Google (as far as I know) does not do that and yet manages to be relevant and accurate. Yahoo excusing their deviation from the realm of the ethical search provider by saying doing so will result in better search results is blowing smoke.
I never claimed Yahoo didn't give PuTTY as a first result. That's irrelevant.
Please take a refresher in reading comprehension before flying off the handle.
When I want to download a new version of the ssh client I use on Windows machines, I goto Google and type "putty" in the search field. Then I hit enter.
Every time I am brought through the "deep web of billions of pages" to the most relevant site for Internet users looking for something called "putty." No, it's not SillyPutty (that's second.) It's not Home Depot. It is www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ which is the home of PuTTY, the Windows SSH client extraordinaire.
The Yahoo spokesperson who spun Yahoo's paid results as a benefit to using the "deep web" hopes his listeners aren't Internet users. Or, at least, aren't Google users. We don't fall for that crap.
Yeah, right. Real heart warming, Yahoo.
... 6 months? Maybe once a month prior to that?
Pffffbbbbbbbt.
The reason Google kicked ass in 1999 (when I found it; so call me a late comer, it's ok) is that it
1) Was simple
2) Was clean
3) Wasn't a portal
4) Gave honest results
The reason it continues to kick ass is that it
1) Left the 1999 values in place
2) Clearly demarks paid results from algorithmic
3) Provides honest results (including countermanding manipulation attempts)
Reagrding a being portal: if Google added email I'd be interested. If it added a "my" page, I'd sign up. Google has impressed me to no end unlike almost any other popular web site (I'd have to add Groklaw to my list of trusted sites; and LWN).
If Yahoo wants to replace Google in my life it needs to undo years of bad moves. "Launch," anyone? Funny thing is, I use Yahoo as my email host (and I pay for it); I even have the same my.yahoo.com page I first made in 1999. It's still my browser's home page. But I spend far more time using Google than using Yahoo, even though I'm commited to so many services Yahoo provides. The first time I was tempted to change home pages was when Google News came out. I did change, for a while. But my email is with Yahoo. All it would take to make me a Google Goon would be for Google to offer email services.
So, the news that Yahoo will skew results for the highest bidder doesn't concern me -- I haven't used Yahoo search in
My!Yahoo may be my start page, but my browser, Firefox, has Google built-in "every" page I visit (and I doubt that's because Google paid the Open Source project to do it).
Bye Yahoo. Thanks for employing Jeremy Zawodny and letting him talk/write about MySQL. Thanks for having a fairly decent email service (not thanks for not opening up an alernate port to port 25 which is blocked by many ISPs). Thanks, but I don't know how long I'll be around. Couple months, maybe just due to inertia.
the top of your desk and, say, navigate an image
gallery in three-diminsional
up/down, up/down, right
type-motions.
Some may find that useful.
Looks like I'll be paying extra for an HP Printer. :/
Why shouldn't a mouse work with Linux? Or would it not use a standard mouse interface?
move_mouse(x,y)
Wooo works with Linux.
Almost as amazing as ads that proclaim their TouchScreens "work with Linux!!" -- er, a touchscreen is a mouse, or so thinks your computer. Or "Our keyboard wedge barcode scanner works with Linux!!!"; its a hardware trick that mimics keyboard input, so of course it does.
Be sure to pay extra for Linux compatibility!
- In every step building the EV1 business, I've had to make decisions that I believed in my heart were in the best interests...[blah blah blah]
Of course, he is free to do as he wishes for his business. Of course, I am free to take my business elsewhere.Fortune 25 company, sells Linux on PCs (Lindows, Lycoris, Mandrake). Isn't an ISP or a tech company.
That's my best guess.
If it happens.
Hasn't yet.
Forget RTFA, Read The Slashdot Mini-Story!
Sheesh. You GenMTV'ers can't even be bothered to read the bite-sized morsel Slashdot provides.
The tilde-ana kournikova virus has infected your
system! Please download the patch for your Microsoft
Windows system here.
****WARNING****
Please, please... don't ever go "Girl". /me shudders with revulsion at your new dress...
Lunch?
A friend of mine in college got a Bachelor of Arts in Computer Science. Less math/programming. This was at University of North Texas between '85 and '90.
:)
Others opt for business Information Systems. Some programming, just for gits and shiggles, some design, blah blah. Benefit: be the boss of your arrogant techie friends...
Don't be too surprised that people would fall for an out-of-place external reader -- the "Box on a Chair" to receive deposits at an ATM with a paper sign reading "Sorry - ATM Out Of Order. Please place deposits in the box provided below. Be sure to fill out your account number with PIN on your deposit slip for proper deposit credit" works EVERYTIME.
Rule #1: Always remember which machines you've bugged so you don't accidentally expose your work during "investigations."
Rule #2: If you fail to follow Rule #1, act surprised and shocked at your "fortunate discovery."
Rule #3: If your work is exposed, especially in a Rule #2 setting, be sure to dismantle it so the destination can't be traced.
Just another day in the life of a sys admin!