Hey James, I get the impression from your vague and occasionally inaccurate criticisms that you have an axe to grind or don't like me or something. I'm sorry for whatever I might have done to piss you off.
Funny you'd make it personal, because I didn't. It's funny because one of my concerns with the project is how closely tied to you personally it is! Not because of you -- this isn't personal -- but just that it needs to grow a bit beyond a critical man.
The vitrol in my post was directed at the a-hole who asked "why discuss problems here instead of submitting bug reports". As if no one is allowed to voice experiences with tools in public...
Whenever you type in a query, we're actually looking for the communities after you type the query.
"We're"? Is this a post submitted by a participant inside Teoma? Is this story an attempt to garner marketshare amongst Googling Geeks who read Slashdot? Was any payola given in consideration for front-page placement? Can rhetorical questions ever be answered?
Why would you post bug reports here? Send them where they can do some good...
Because the project is being discussed here and people should know the ins and outs before having to invest time and effort into the project to find out these things on their own.
Ins: XML, open source, Cross-platform Outs: UI not tight yet, is https supported(?), small project at the core...
Worth a look? You bet. Are there problems? Sure. Is it evil to discuss the problems in public? Uh...
Agreed. Many problems with the UI elements -- and these are fundamental problems that preclude me from considering the platform, currently, for development work.
Althought I don't like the license, Sash is a mature platform for application development today-->as long as that platform is Windows, granted.
I really wanted to use XWT. But real-world end users would not be able to handle the UI glitches. Examples...from memory...the tree elements: when selecting a sub element, the parent element is also highlit (highlightened? highligthted?) and the highlight does not easily go away...painful. If I showed this to a client they'd freak.
I'll keep looking at it every once in a while, but it needs more than one developer working on its core. Oh, and the outages I experienced on the site during the end of May, beginning of June were in NO WAY an encouragement. When the front page links all led no where I thought perhaps the project was done. Of course, it's a small project and that may need to change before it will be truly useable.
I am so happy to point out that you are incorrect!
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only part of that which would be social engineering is the date. Recording the voice is a playback attack.
I can understand your mistake, since you have obviously never been on a date and do not realize that conversation on a date with another person (as opposed to your dates with Real Dolls) is not a simple matter. Also, extracting the exact words necessary for the voice-print id requires extensive social engineering. Or, do you not recall how incredibly difficult it was for Liz to get Warner to say, "Passport"?
Another Anonymous Coward dashed to the ground in flames!
All you need to do is fake a computer date with a nerdish priveleged employee and get him to say "Hello, my name is ______ ________. My voice is my passort. Verify me." Then you're in!
You misconstrued context, which was "things people might complain about Mormonism." The list was just things I'd heard or seen in that regard.
If you noticed my follow-up I posted links to some of the issues, but not the tithing issue. Why? Because in the follow-up I was trying to bring attention to real issues (different context).
Now if only the comments would last five minutes without obligatory mentions of polygamy, jello, large families, missionaries or cults, we'd have it made.
Jello?
How about White Supremacy, forced tithing (paycheck withholding; mandatory in Utah), Brigham Young's declaration of war against the US, the Meadows Mountain Massacre (look it up), and special Government-Issued underwear?
don't know if this link will show the image, but getting the SourceForge "Woman on Cellphone" ad for this story almost made me burst out laughing in my manager's meeting....
Admission that the break-in occured? Commands to cover the op up? Or evidence that Nixon was simply a pawn and had no control over his "aides" who actually ran the Shadow Government?
But I did try to show Snow White to my son and he told me to turn it off--it was too scary. You know, I watched it later by myself, and it _was_ quite chilling. (Especially the group of small men sleeping together...)
Good thing nothing like that ever happens in the wild, where animals are humane (intentional irony), compassionate and well-groomed.:)
I've been reading a chapter of the Bible to my son, 2 1/2 years old, and have just finished the crucifixion account in Luke--wow, reading it with fresh ears is amazing...gruesome story.
Point is (there is a point) that there is a lot of horrible stuff in life and books.
Can't avoid it (but it doesn't mean you have to view the Pearl video, either).
If I understand correctly, my i686 boxes running Linux are vulnerable to the DOS attack using the invalid remote request IF the default "chunk encoding" response is enabled. But I'm not vulnerable to the stackoverflow remote vulernability because I (1) don't have a 64 bit processor and (2) don't run Windows.
Question: where do I change the default "chunk encoding" response to an invalid request?
Thanks for the link you provided. Hunting around, using only hyperlinks provided on their pages, I found another directory: http://www.adti.net/html_files/technology/ which may go a long way to explaining the ADTI's comfort level with Microsoft. For example, see the pro MSCE articles:
http://www.adti.net/html_files/technology/anders on ad_techtrends020501.html
And so on... Just click through the stories that are ALL pro-Microsoft, anti-Antitrust. Holy Cow. Western Civilization depends on an unfettered Microsoft to lead the technology charge!
Running Mozilla, there are many exclamation marks littering the text
Nah, something's wrong with Yahoo!'s news site. I've been noticing the same artifacts for a few days using various browsers (WinME/IE 5, WinXP Pro/IE6, Mac OSX/Moz1.0).
Slashdot Mirror
They are ranked on popularity, so it makes sense.
Funny you'd make it personal, because I didn't. It's funny because one of my concerns with the project is how closely tied to you personally it is! Not because of you -- this isn't personal -- but just that it needs to grow a bit beyond a critical man.
The vitrol in my post was directed at the a-hole who asked "why discuss problems here instead of submitting bug reports". As if no one is allowed to voice experiences with tools in public...
- "Teoma Sucks" returns "We found no matches for your search "teoma sucks""
Google's results:"Google sucks" returns 15 matches.
- "Google Sucks" on Google returns a boat-load.
Notice, too, that Teoma is an ASP=based system. *PeeYew!*"Teoma Sucks" A few results--obviously, not a popular topic
Teoma Sucks on Google returns a lot, too.
- Whenever you type in a query, we're actually looking for the communities after you type the query.
"We're"? Is this a post submitted by a participant inside Teoma? Is this story an attempt to garner marketshare amongst Googling Geeks who read Slashdot? Was any payola given in consideration for front-page placement? Can rhetorical questions ever be answered?Because the project is being discussed here and people should know the ins and outs before having to invest time and effort into the project to find out these things on their own.
Ins: XML, open source, Cross-platform
Outs: UI not tight yet, is https supported(?), small project at the core...
Worth a look? You bet. Are there problems? Sure. Is it evil to discuss the problems in public? Uh...
Althought I don't like the license, Sash is a mature platform for application development today-->as long as that platform is Windows, granted.
I really wanted to use XWT. But real-world end users would not be able to handle the UI glitches. Examples...from memory...the tree elements: when selecting a sub element, the parent element is also highlit (highlightened? highligthted?) and the highlight does not easily go away...painful. If I showed this to a client they'd freak.
I'll keep looking at it every once in a while, but it needs more than one developer working on its core. Oh, and the outages I experienced on the site during the end of May, beginning of June were in NO WAY an encouragement. When the front page links all led no where I thought perhaps the project was done. Of course, it's a small project and that may need to change before it will be truly useable.
- The
- only part of that which would be social engineering is the date. Recording the voice is a playback attack.
I can understand your mistake, since you have obviously never been on a date and do not realize that conversation on a date with another person (as opposed to your dates with Real Dolls) is not a simple matter. Also, extracting the exact words necessary for the voice-print id requires extensive social engineering. Or, do you not recall how incredibly difficult it was for Liz to get Warner to say, "Passport"?Another Anonymous Coward dashed to the ground in flames!
Farm out. Right arm.
I've always wondered what his relationship to Buddy was...
- But can anyone say *autosuggestion*?
Can anyone say *Military Flyover Country*?If you noticed my follow-up I posted links to some of the issues, but not the tithing issue. Why? Because in the follow-up I was trying to bring attention to real issues (different context).
Funny. If my post had been references to Scientology (the new American-made religion) it would have been rated +5 Insightful.
Anyway, since the parent brought up the subject...
oops, I meant, Mountain Meadows Massacre
Jello?
How about White Supremacy, forced tithing (paycheck withholding; mandatory in Utah), Brigham Young's declaration of war against the US, the Meadows Mountain Massacre (look it up), and special Government-Issued underwear?
"Jello"?
It's got to have automatic sliding doors that swoosh, pervasive speech-enabled computers, and pod-bay doors. Or I'm not going.
don't know if this link will show the image, but getting the SourceForge "Woman on Cellphone" ad for this story almost made me burst out laughing in my manager's meeting....
I always question androgenously-named females...
Other theories, anyone?
But I did try to show Snow White to my son and he told me to turn it off--it was too scary. You know, I watched it later by myself, and it _was_ quite chilling. (Especially the group of small men sleeping together...)
Executives are worth every penny they can get. Actually, you can keep the pennies...
I've been reading a chapter of the Bible to my son, 2 1/2 years old, and have just finished the crucifixion account in Luke--wow, reading it with fresh ears is amazing...gruesome story.
Point is (there is a point) that there is a lot of horrible stuff in life and books.
Can't avoid it (but it doesn't mean you have to view the Pearl video, either).
What an intelligent, value-adding contribution!
Question: where do I change the default "chunk encoding" response to an invalid request?
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And so on... Just click through the stories that are ALL pro-Microsoft, anti-Antitrust. Holy Cow. Western Civilization depends on an unfettered Microsoft to lead the technology charge!Nah, something's wrong with Yahoo!'s news site. I've been noticing the same artifacts for a few days using various browsers (WinME/IE 5, WinXP Pro/IE6, Mac OSX/Moz1.0).