The Ohio situation was brutal. The white Republican suburbs and towns were awash in voting machines while in Cleveland and environs, the black and the poor waited in line in the rain for up to twelve hours for their turn. The Secretary of State had "miscalculated" the number of machines needed, I assume because the state had never held an election in Cleveland before. That tiny margin of people who gave up waiting to go to work or home to their kids after school put Bush into office. Just goddamned filthy. You don't need voting machine manipulation if you don't provide the voting machines in the first place.
Or how about that county that shut the reporters out of the recount, claiming that Homeland Security told them they had been threatened by terrorists? The vote swung wildly to Bush in the count after the reporters were banned. Homeland Security was LATER asked, and they said they had no idea what those voting officials were talking about. The "threat" was a lie.
That's just two I know of. There must be hundreds of little tricks, I assume some of them involving kicking people off the rolls using "data" from private companies, that gave Bush the tens of thousands of votes he needed to tip the election his way.
The Constitution does not apply to the President (Richard Nixon to David Frost, paraphrased; Alberto Gonzales any number of times) according to the Nixonian Guard that are in power now. It's not like they're hiding their belief. Gonzales just told the Congress to go fuck itself last week, on camera. Rice has issued a statement today saying she has better things to do than respond to a subpoena, and apparently won't bother to show up. Who would have the power to arrest her? Gonzales. Yeah boy. That's what will happen, yes.
No one with an ounce of perception is a Republican anymore, including a hell of a lot of elected Republicans. DemocraticUnderground.com and others are the only ones really stitching together theses stories from mainline news. They're all alone out there. Sheer persistence and the certain logical conclusion that voting results were altered via online control that came and went like the wind when DEATH was on the line for Bush has now produced slivers of evidence. I'm surprised that they found some -- but election rigging by soopersecrit voting machines is a new technology, and I'm sure there's a learning curve for the Diebold and Sequoia operatives in covering their tracks. I'm sure they'll plug the IP address hole next time.
All right, wasted sarcasm, I'm not firing on all cylinders. Still can't believe that the Bushies somehow got labeled the Reds. My brain can't parse the label. Reagan would have had a stroke if you had called the Republicans Reds.
Go in peace, young businessman in armor. Run like hell, you fool.
Would this mean "blue" as in "blue" Texas or Oklahoma? We do know that only certified Republican rightwingers were allowed to do business in Iraq (oh, go Google it yourselves), usually recruited from Young Republicans in campaigns, so is the name a kissy-kiss for Bush's people?
"If you haven't done anything wrong, why do you care if they search your bags/test your urine/watch what you read/monitor your movements/listen to your phone conversations?"
Because people are fuckups, and you don't let fuckups police your life for no damned good reason.
They aren't communists, and that's all that ever matters. You can feed children into a coal-fired plant, as long as capitalism wins the day. All that guff about freedoms and habeus corpus is all so pre-911. Why should they fight for something we don't even want for ourselves.
What a beautiful illustration of the danger -- no, the reality -- of having free wireless internet access provided by the government or a business. They WILL censor, and after they become ubiquitous, the internet won't be able to route around them.
Wireless internet should be provided by mesh networks, with perhaps non-profit associations renting or buying fat pipe for backbone. Do it the bad way, and the gubmint or Rupert Murdock or Clear Channel start telling us who's not to have access this week.
Carry a bowling ball in your bladder for nine months, then try pissing it out.
As for your long days, you chose to submit to authority rather than unionize and tell your company to hire more people and take a little less profit this year.
Ah, the poor white males who make lots of money. No one is left to speak for them.
Companies are licensed to exist via corporate charter by the American people, and do indeed have legal and moral responsibilities to do what ever we tell them to do. They are not feudal baronies.
There have been numerous elections using voting machines that have given government-collapsing results, like that vote last election in some district in Texas that popped up with 100,000 more votes than they had registered voters. Even the Republicans in the district went bonkers.
But, no one understood the problem in reporterland, and sure as hell citizens haven't cared. The big collapses have occurred -- and NO ONE CARED.
Senator Clelland, Georgia. War vet, hero amputee. Ahead in polls by large number days before election in race with draft dodger who impugns Clelland's patriotism. Weasel somehow wins by small margin.
That is a rigged election. I'm not a scientist, so I can state the obvious. Someone flipped the switch. And there are so many others, with margins so slim that recounts are not automatic and therefore expensive. And the few recounts that have occured have Diebold techs cherrypicking districts to recount that match expectations rather than the suspicious districts. Diebold has the fix in. What else can be said? We've no logs, and they fought like scientologists to make sure paper trails didn't exist. Their intractibility in suing or pounding official who want paper trails is a slam dunk -- they are rigging elections, otherwise they wouldn't care. Use your heads. They don't want paper trails. WHY. BECAUSE. They are cheating.
Wrong question, a straw man. The problem isn't outside hackers playing with the system, but political insiders who have full access to the machines and code inperceptibly changing elections and the voting logs. A hacker may not be able to change an election, but a fully vested operative in the voting machine company can. Want a real test? Give the testers full access to the machines from soup to nuts. All code, accumulators, logs, access to the paper trail printouts, the works. NOW can they change the election?
Yes. Always, untraceably, if you can manipulate the traces.
This test they are running is worthless. They are playing to the myth of the superhacker, master of all crimes. The problem with evoting is that the evoting system programmers own the democracy, and you cannot test for that.
These evoting systems are the answer to the question: how do we fix elections without anyone noticing, or even understanding the system so that they notice that we can? The paper systems are foolproof, if done correctly, as in Canada. Those systems aren't broken. So we are fixing an uncrackable system for one that is cracked by design.
People. Someone is really determined to own democracy. Follow the money.
Karl Rove in ER being treated for shock following Crackberry failure. Nation's government falls. Peace breaks out, we run a surplus, Crawford is consumed by tornados that miraculously miss the protestors.
A major consequence would be a deeper understanding of the nature of reality, and ultimately would lead to the scenario I evilly smile at every time I hear about the plumbing of reality being plungered...
"Dr. Bob! I know I'm just a lowly Master's candidate, but in between grading all the papers of your physics classes and cleaning your faculty lounge, I was reading the latest followup to the 3D3T papers and realized that if I rotated this sphere at this obvious speed and brought the temperature down to 0 Kelvin minus a whisker, and then rotated this plane of cesium ions so that the spin ran through 450 degrees, the normal charges of the constituent particles of the sphere reverse through two time dimensions! It becomes antimatter. I think that this may explain the missing AM in the universe. Now, if you let me demonstrate this test rig with the ten kilo sphere right now - let me throw this switch -
Well, it wasn't so much a solid piece of science fiction as a love letter to SF literature, and the fans themselves. Hell, Poul Anderson showed up in full armor in an SCA tourney at the end, the biggest science fiction convention in the history of the Multiperson Pantheistic Solipsistic universe. "Dis Dane could be our arrow".
This was Robert Heinlein's throwaway theory of 3 space and 3 time dimensions in "The Number of the Beast". Just throwing it in before someone brings up some anime with the idea.
The U.S. has been at war with the socialist bogeyman since Marx published. I don't need to say too much how much the Gilded Age wealthy used their newspapers and their government influence to convince people that labor laws = unions = communism = anarchy = slavery = the end of the world. Those men were the among the worst slavers in history. They should have felt right at home.
After the Revolution in Russia, the entire myth building machine went into batshit insane mode. We spend untold trillions of dollars and who knows how many billions of hours of people's lives fighting the Commie Devil. Certainly millions were slaughtered -- we killed a million alone in Vietnam. Now we have the Terrorist Menace, and they are sticking us for trillions more and killing hundreds of thousands in the name of security, and even invoke the democracy meme again, tho it really doesn't apply. The last of the Commie war is still being fought against a dirt poor Cuba which would be a damned sight less poor if we hadn't embargoed it for half a century.
Russia wasn't the almighty military enemy the commie warriors said it was. The story of how the Pentagon and the CIA were pummeled into line, despite evidence they knew about that said they were far weaker and poorer than the civilian warriors demanded they see it, still remains to be told. It's a story Americans will not listen to. We had our first Iraq over sixty years ago.
Soooo. Soviet Union fell, turned into a hell on earth controlled by crime syndicates. We were fine with that! At least we can do business with the guy who cuts a prostitute up for holding back. So Putin has golden plumbing *on his airplane*. That's capitalism, by definition better than anything.
Now we have a fascist state rising from the criminal state. We're still okay with that. Putin has a good soul, Bush saw it in his eyes. A little polonium and a few reporters with their brains splattered in front of their homes is just the stuff of hard politics. Cheney probably smirks when he hears about that.
They could strip people to the bone with boiling oil, and we'd STILL think they were better than them commies. As a matter of fact, they ARE boiling people's skin off with vats of oil. We don't care.
Vonnegut said that what we see today is the rise to power of psychopathic personalities. People like them because they are decisive. But, they are decisive because they don't care about the repercussions of their decisions. Putin is strong, and Russians like strong men, as Hendrick Smith wrote. I'd like to point out that PP leaders also require a large population of PPs who don't care either. Without masses of people with no moral sense, PPs can't keep power.
As long as unions are illegal and we can do business with someone, we don't fuck with them. Rule by kleptocrats. I'd rather have a socialist neighbor who spends all their money on health care and full employment than a hypermilitary power ruled by psychopaths. But we're so fixated on our century and a half of war (on the behalf of the very wealthy who created the war in fear of change in their power) on commies, unions and suchlike that we will support a thousand mirrorshaded mass murderers who will sell us bananas at near cost than a socialist who wants to spread the wealth. The mountain of bodies we have dedicated to the god of money must be a thousand feet tall.
Russia's core problem with "freedom" and "democracy" was that they were Russians. What they do to the weak is part of their culture, not about Marxism. communism was our bogeyman, not theirs, as we see clearly now. They have a fascist soul, and it doesn't matter how the paychecks are cut -- it's about power. But we loves us some businessmen. We don't want democracy, we want money, we want gas pipelines, we want cheap labor. We are looking straight into the face of pure evil and laughing as it beats the democrats in the streets of Russia. Fuck those losers, they were blocking traffic. Party on.
We're happily building a police state that will be nearly unkillable. But, remember kids: Police states are run for the benefit of the police -- and whoever their bosses are. The police and their bosses will never, ever be subject to the same surveillance YOU will endure all the days of your life. It's a mook's game. Don't cave into the hive mind: security is not more important than freedom.
And it's not like you all spend your days in Baghdad, anyway. What do you need all that security for? You're being conned.
Do let us remember that US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald told the White House back in 2004 not to delete email for the duration. And yes, he was on the list to be replaced with a "loyal Bushie". So, the deletions were deliberate, and so was the move to use the republican mail servers to dance around the order of the prosecutor.
Things went missing from Whitewater? A matter from 1978, a box of paper that was found. And that box of paper gave nothing to Ken Starr. Starr's successor concluded that there was no substance to the allegations about all that nonsense eight years ago. Or any of the other "crimes" that occupied the derranged cable news channels in the 90's. Whitewater was not, NOT a criminal matter, and no one cared but the Arkansas project shysters, Fox News, MS-NBC and whatever noodlebrains at whatever papers made their careers following the "investigation". The purpose of Whitewater was to convince people that Clinton was criminal, not to find a criminal. The guilt or innocence of the Clintons was immaterial; they just wanted the news to be full of investigations. Worked like a charm, apparently. Will you all please process the fact that the investigations went nowhere? There was no crime, and who the fuck cares about a land deal in 1978 anyway? Ever read the real investigative pieces about the fraudulent land grab by Bush's baseball team's owners that netted him his first millions? No? I cry, why the hell not? Why doesn't anyone ever LOOK besides the reporters? Touching Bush seems to be like touching an electric fence, if you're a journalist, but the Clinton "investigation" just keeps going and f-ing going....
That is no comparable to:
Gonzales and Rove and Bush, deciding to load up the US attorney position with "Loyal Bushies" just days after the Democrats took Congress. They knew full well that they were going to be charged criminally, so they wanted their players on the opposing team.
Knowing full well that such communications were damning, they routed around the taxpayer-mandated white house email system by using gwbush and the Republican Party's email servers.
They (Rove) was manually selecting his emails to can. Others were doing so as well.
There is NO comparison to a non-lost box of papers to a non-crime in the nineties to a full-on in-your-face fuck you from the neocons by loading the dice and then erasing the trail. and unlike janet reno, this AG is fully vested and running interference for his crooked bosse. The only agency capable of enforcing subpoenas and prosecuting the white house IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. And the US Attorneys are now famously loaded with Federalist Society Bushies who will not race to level charges against the conspiracy that put them into their jobs with a certain understanding, will they?
"You can't force the White House to use government owned systems for that -- THAT is illegal."
WRONG. Using the non-trackable email systems violates the spirit and the letter of the laws passed, and the monies spent, to prevent just this occurence. Otherwise there are *no* White House records to examine, ever, and Bush is a God-Emperor.
Somehow I doubt Fox News would be telling you the President doesn't have to obey the law regarding retaining records of communications, especially those describing a felonious conspiracy, if the name of the President were "Clinton".
Or really smart. Do you think they really forgot to back up those communications, knowing full well since November 7 that subpoenas were coming by the forkliftful? Who will prosecute, the AG? He's the one being investigated for... everything, pretty much. This is the perfect, filthy coverup. NO records, so sorry, we be stupid, try again, do please try to bring us to court, good luck with that (snicker).
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The Ohio situation was brutal. The white Republican suburbs and towns were awash in voting machines while in Cleveland and environs, the black and the poor waited in line in the rain for up to twelve hours for their turn. The Secretary of State had "miscalculated" the number of machines needed, I assume because the state had never held an election in Cleveland before. That tiny margin of people who gave up waiting to go to work or home to their kids after school put Bush into office. Just goddamned filthy. You don't need voting machine manipulation if you don't provide the voting machines in the first place.
Or how about that county that shut the reporters out of the recount, claiming that Homeland Security told them they had been threatened by terrorists? The vote swung wildly to Bush in the count after the reporters were banned. Homeland Security was LATER asked, and they said they had no idea what those voting officials were talking about. The "threat" was a lie.
That's just two I know of. There must be hundreds of little tricks, I assume some of them involving kicking people off the rolls using "data" from private companies, that gave Bush the tens of thousands of votes he needed to tip the election his way.
The Constitution does not apply to the President (Richard Nixon to David Frost, paraphrased; Alberto Gonzales any number of times) according to the Nixonian Guard that are in power now. It's not like they're hiding their belief. Gonzales just told the Congress to go fuck itself last week, on camera. Rice has issued a statement today saying she has better things to do than respond to a subpoena, and apparently won't bother to show up. Who would have the power to arrest her? Gonzales. Yeah boy. That's what will happen, yes.
No one with an ounce of perception is a Republican anymore, including a hell of a lot of elected Republicans. DemocraticUnderground.com and others are the only ones really stitching together theses stories from mainline news. They're all alone out there. Sheer persistence and the certain logical conclusion that voting results were altered via online control that came and went like the wind when DEATH was on the line for Bush has now produced slivers of evidence. I'm surprised that they found some -- but election rigging by soopersecrit voting machines is a new technology, and I'm sure there's a learning curve for the Diebold and Sequoia operatives in covering their tracks. I'm sure they'll plug the IP address hole next time.
All right, wasted sarcasm, I'm not firing on all cylinders. Still can't believe that the Bushies somehow got labeled the Reds. My brain can't parse the label. Reagan would have had a stroke if you had called the Republicans Reds.
Go in peace, young businessman in armor. Run like hell, you fool.
Would this mean "blue" as in "blue" Texas or Oklahoma? We do know that only certified Republican rightwingers were allowed to do business in Iraq (oh, go Google it yourselves), usually recruited from Young Republicans in campaigns, so is the name a kissy-kiss for Bush's people?
The answer to the eternal apologist's question:
"If you haven't done anything wrong, why do you care if they search your bags/test your urine/watch what you read/monitor your movements/listen to your phone conversations?"
Because people are fuckups, and you don't let fuckups police your life for no damned good reason.
They aren't communists, and that's all that ever matters. You can feed children into a coal-fired plant, as long as capitalism wins the day. All that guff about freedoms and habeus corpus is all so pre-911. Why should they fight for something we don't even want for ourselves.
What a beautiful illustration of the danger -- no, the reality -- of having free wireless internet access provided by the government or a business. They WILL censor, and after they become ubiquitous, the internet won't be able to route around them.
Wireless internet should be provided by mesh networks, with perhaps non-profit associations renting or buying fat pipe for backbone. Do it the bad way, and the gubmint or Rupert Murdock or Clear Channel start telling us who's not to have access this week.
"The fact is that IT isn't "easy". "
Carry a bowling ball in your bladder for nine months, then try pissing it out.
As for your long days, you chose to submit to authority rather than unionize and tell your company to hire more people and take a little less profit this year.
Ah, the poor white males who make lots of money. No one is left to speak for them.
FOX News!
Companies are licensed to exist via corporate charter by the American people, and do indeed have legal and moral responsibilities to do what ever we tell them to do. They are not feudal baronies.
There have been numerous elections using voting machines that have given government-collapsing results, like that vote last election in some district in Texas that popped up with 100,000 more votes than they had registered voters. Even the Republicans in the district went bonkers.
But, no one understood the problem in reporterland, and sure as hell citizens haven't cared. The big collapses have occurred -- and NO ONE CARED.
Senator Clelland, Georgia. War vet, hero amputee. Ahead in polls by large number days before election in race with draft dodger who impugns Clelland's patriotism. Weasel somehow wins by small margin.
That is a rigged election. I'm not a scientist, so I can state the obvious. Someone flipped the switch. And there are so many others, with margins so slim that recounts are not automatic and therefore expensive. And the few recounts that have occured have Diebold techs cherrypicking districts to recount that match expectations rather than the suspicious districts. Diebold has the fix in. What else can be said? We've no logs, and they fought like scientologists to make sure paper trails didn't exist. Their intractibility in suing or pounding official who want paper trails is a slam dunk -- they are rigging elections, otherwise they wouldn't care. Use your heads. They don't want paper trails. WHY. BECAUSE. They are cheating.
Wrong question, a straw man. The problem isn't outside hackers playing with the system, but political insiders who have full access to the machines and code inperceptibly changing elections and the voting logs. A hacker may not be able to change an election, but a fully vested operative in the voting machine company can. Want a real test? Give the testers full access to the machines from soup to nuts. All code, accumulators, logs, access to the paper trail printouts, the works. NOW can they change the election?
Yes. Always, untraceably, if you can manipulate the traces.
This test they are running is worthless. They are playing to the myth of the superhacker, master of all crimes. The problem with evoting is that the evoting system programmers own the democracy, and you cannot test for that.
These evoting systems are the answer to the question: how do we fix elections without anyone noticing, or even understanding the system so that they notice that we can? The paper systems are foolproof, if done correctly, as in Canada. Those systems aren't broken. So we are fixing an uncrackable system for one that is cracked by design.
People. Someone is really determined to own democracy. Follow the money.
Karl Rove in ER being treated for shock following Crackberry failure. Nation's government falls. Peace breaks out, we run a surplus, Crawford is consumed by tornados that miraculously miss the protestors.
Wait, am I awake now? Damn.
A major consequence would be a deeper understanding of the nature of reality, and ultimately would lead to the scenario I evilly smile at every time I hear about the plumbing of reality being plungered...
"Dr. Bob! I know I'm just a lowly Master's candidate, but in between grading all the papers of your physics classes and cleaning your faculty lounge, I was reading the latest followup to the 3D3T papers and realized that if I rotated this sphere at this obvious speed and brought the temperature down to 0 Kelvin minus a whisker, and then rotated this plane of cesium ions so that the spin ran through 450 degrees, the normal charges of the constituent particles of the sphere reverse through two time dimensions! It becomes antimatter. I think that this may explain the missing AM in the universe. Now, if you let me demonstrate this test rig with the ten kilo sphere right now - let me throw this switch -
BOOM
And Japanese.
Well, it wasn't so much a solid piece of science fiction as a love letter to SF literature, and the fans themselves. Hell, Poul Anderson showed up in full armor in an SCA tourney at the end, the biggest science fiction convention in the history of the Multiperson Pantheistic Solipsistic universe. "Dis Dane could be our arrow".
This was Robert Heinlein's throwaway theory of 3 space and 3 time dimensions in "The Number of the Beast". Just throwing it in before someone brings up some anime with the idea.
Ad hominem and irrelevant. Please put down the Fox News Channel and put your hands over your head.
The U.S. has been at war with the socialist bogeyman since Marx published. I don't need to say too much how much the Gilded Age wealthy used their newspapers and their government influence to convince people that labor laws = unions = communism = anarchy = slavery = the end of the world. Those men were the among the worst slavers in history. They should have felt right at home.
After the Revolution in Russia, the entire myth building machine went into batshit insane mode. We spend untold trillions of dollars and who knows how many billions of hours of people's lives fighting the Commie Devil. Certainly millions were slaughtered -- we killed a million alone in Vietnam. Now we have the Terrorist Menace, and they are sticking us for trillions more and killing hundreds of thousands in the name of security, and even invoke the democracy meme again, tho it really doesn't apply. The last of the Commie war is still being fought against a dirt poor Cuba which would be a damned sight less poor if we hadn't embargoed it for half a century.
Russia wasn't the almighty military enemy the commie warriors said it was. The story of how the Pentagon and the CIA were pummeled into line, despite evidence they knew about that said they were far weaker and poorer than the civilian warriors demanded they see it, still remains to be told. It's a story Americans will not listen to. We had our first Iraq over sixty years ago.
Soooo. Soviet Union fell, turned into a hell on earth controlled by crime syndicates. We were fine with that! At least we can do business with the guy who cuts a prostitute up for holding back. So Putin has golden plumbing *on his airplane*. That's capitalism, by definition better than anything.
Now we have a fascist state rising from the criminal state. We're still okay with that. Putin has a good soul, Bush saw it in his eyes. A little polonium and a few reporters with their brains splattered in front of their homes is just the stuff of hard politics. Cheney probably smirks when he hears about that.
They could strip people to the bone with boiling oil, and we'd STILL think they were better than them commies. As a matter of fact, they ARE boiling people's skin off with vats of oil. We don't care.
Vonnegut said that what we see today is the rise to power of psychopathic personalities. People like them because they are decisive. But, they are decisive because they don't care about the repercussions of their decisions. Putin is strong, and Russians like strong men, as Hendrick Smith wrote. I'd like to point out that PP leaders also require a large population of PPs who don't care either. Without masses of people with no moral sense, PPs can't keep power.
As long as unions are illegal and we can do business with someone, we don't fuck with them. Rule by kleptocrats. I'd rather have a socialist neighbor who spends all their money on health care and full employment than a hypermilitary power ruled by psychopaths. But we're so fixated on our century and a half of war (on the behalf of the very wealthy who created the war in fear of change in their power) on commies, unions and suchlike that we will support a thousand mirrorshaded mass murderers who will sell us bananas at near cost than a socialist who wants to spread the wealth. The mountain of bodies we have dedicated to the god of money must be a thousand feet tall.
Russia's core problem with "freedom" and "democracy" was that they were Russians. What they do to the weak is part of their culture, not about Marxism. communism was our bogeyman, not theirs, as we see clearly now. They have a fascist soul, and it doesn't matter how the paychecks are cut -- it's about power. But we loves us some businessmen. We don't want democracy, we want money, we want gas pipelines, we want cheap labor. We are looking straight into the face of pure evil and laughing as it beats the democrats in the streets of Russia. Fuck those losers, they were blocking traffic. Party on.
We're happily building a police state that will be nearly unkillable. But, remember kids: Police states are run for the benefit of the police -- and whoever their bosses are. The police and their bosses will never, ever be subject to the same surveillance YOU will endure all the days of your life. It's a mook's game. Don't cave into the hive mind: security is not more important than freedom.
And it's not like you all spend your days in Baghdad, anyway. What do you need all that security for? You're being conned.
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Do let us remember that US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald told the White House back in 2004 not to delete email for the duration. And yes, he was on the list to be replaced with a "loyal Bushie". So, the deletions were deliberate, and so was the move to use the republican mail servers to dance around the order of the prosecutor.
Damn, this gets better and better...
Things went missing from Whitewater? A matter from 1978, a box of paper that was found. And that box of paper gave nothing to Ken Starr. Starr's successor concluded that there was no substance to the allegations about all that nonsense eight years ago. Or any of the other "crimes" that occupied the derranged cable news channels in the 90's. Whitewater was not, NOT a criminal matter, and no one cared but the Arkansas project shysters, Fox News, MS-NBC and whatever noodlebrains at whatever papers made their careers following the "investigation". The purpose of Whitewater was to convince people that Clinton was criminal, not to find a criminal. The guilt or innocence of the Clintons was immaterial; they just wanted the news to be full of investigations. Worked like a charm, apparently. Will you all please process the fact that the investigations went nowhere? There was no crime, and who the fuck cares about a land deal in 1978 anyway? Ever read the real investigative pieces about the fraudulent land grab by Bush's baseball team's owners that netted him his first millions? No? I cry, why the hell not? Why doesn't anyone ever LOOK besides the reporters? Touching Bush seems to be like touching an electric fence, if you're a journalist, but the Clinton "investigation" just keeps going and f-ing going....
That is no comparable to:
Gonzales and Rove and Bush, deciding to load up the US attorney position with "Loyal Bushies" just days after the Democrats took Congress. They knew full well that they were going to be charged criminally, so they wanted their players on the opposing team.
Knowing full well that such communications were damning, they routed around the taxpayer-mandated white house email system by using gwbush and the Republican Party's email servers.
They (Rove) was manually selecting his emails to can. Others were doing so as well.
There is NO comparison to a non-lost box of papers to a non-crime in the nineties to a full-on in-your-face fuck you from the neocons by loading the dice and then erasing the trail. and unlike janet reno, this AG is fully vested and running interference for his crooked bosse. The only agency capable of enforcing subpoenas and prosecuting the white house IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE. And the US Attorneys are now famously loaded with Federalist Society Bushies who will not race to level charges against the conspiracy that put them into their jobs with a certain understanding, will they?
"You can't force the White House to use government owned systems for that -- THAT is illegal."
WRONG. Using the non-trackable email systems violates the spirit and the letter of the laws passed, and the monies spent, to prevent just this occurence. Otherwise there are *no* White House records to examine, ever, and Bush is a God-Emperor.
Somehow I doubt Fox News would be telling you the President doesn't have to obey the law regarding retaining records of communications, especially those describing a felonious conspiracy, if the name of the President were "Clinton".
Or really smart. Do you think they really forgot to back up those communications, knowing full well since November 7 that subpoenas were coming by the forkliftful? Who will prosecute, the AG? He's the one being investigated for... everything, pretty much. This is the perfect, filthy coverup. NO records, so sorry, we be stupid, try again, do please try to bring us to court, good luck with that (snicker).