I dabbled a little few years ago but there really not much interests me. Taking a look at Galaxy 19 lyngsat.com as suggested by Isao has stations of little interest to me. However, it was interesting to get some hands-on experience receiving signals from a satellite, ironically the day I first locked on to bird in the Clarke Belt was the same day Arthur died.
Also back then there were websites that you can download software and load this into one of those sat receivers and be able to watch DishTV, Direct, and other encrypted sites for free. However, these didn't offer much (I have no interest in football, soccer, hockey which all have 200 channels each). There were some premimun channels like TCM that I already have on cable, but then I may also dump cable because even TCM shows same movies over and over again (occasionally they will show something different i.e. a series of Mamie Van Doren movies). There were "local" TV stations from various towns like Bakersfield on these dish tv stations. But then almost all I have no interest so why bother.
Getting back to when I setup my satellite receiver. Someone at DeAnza Electronics flea market was selling DishTV Ku-band dishes and oddball sat receiver boxes for dirt cheap, had a whole stack of these and didn't want to crate them all to the dump. Living in a condo reduced my opportunities (all the birds were aligned away from my windows), I was not interested in mounting the dish on a awning of sorts (I was experimenting and had no long term deployment interest). I was able to just fit the dish into my skylight, borrowed a sat finder meter to help lock onto the bird, and it was exciting to see the bars all light up on the satellite receiver box (Comet I think was the brand). Go through the motions to select the frequencies and download the channels. It seemed it was more interesting technically than watching entertainment (again almost all channels were of no interest). I also referred to these sites, http://www.uksatellitehelp.co.... and http://emantechnology.com/stor.... There were some channels that were non-encrypted including NASA-TV Public channel (and this was back when Shuttle was flying). However these stations were able to do encryption far more difficult to hack, and they also encrypted all channels including "FTA" like NASA-TV.
Now there is C-band birds which NASA-TV provides non-encrypted including the Media channel but the antennas are big and hard to find. However, NASA-TV mostly has usual drivel repeated over and over. There was a time when everyone was dumping C-band dishes for free and great opportunity for experimentalists including those wanting a dish to do EME.
thanks for the tutorial and come to think of it, last time I had engine failure while driving was with a 1970 Toyota (no power steering or brakes) decades ago. I have never had engine failure so I was thinking no such thing can occur but your post reminded us that, yes a car can have complete engine shutdown while driving at any speed.
few months ago watching "The Anderson Tapes" (early 1970s) and near end of movie police searching building for more robbery suspects find some equipment tapped into some of the buildings phone lines. Senior officer says, "whoever set this up better have a warrant!" Later the 'snoops' that have been tracking character played by Sean Connery erased and purged all the tapes of conversations they recorded because they could get in big trouble as none of it was authorized by the courts. Fast forward to these days, meh, that kind of storyline is totally ridiculous. There are other such movies back in the days when people did respect legalities of wiretapping and eavesdropping. Of course there were shenanigans played out by some govt agencies but they knew they were doing wrong so they had to cover it up. These days, they don't because "it's ok."
oops, kind of read that too fast. But if we do ban driver use, then the car cannot be used. If it is not used, then no crashes can occur. OK a silly remark but I'm sure there are some considering this a serious proposal (i.e. self driving cars).
this is the United States, you'd think we'd have great broadband like they have in places like Bulgaria. Maybe I'm getting factious/bitchy but Cringely wrote an article on how Silicon Valley went from the fastest to the slowest in high-speed internet (cannot find link to article right now).
"Customers" are people who pay you to do your job well.
"Consumers" are people that marking folks envision buying your product because they want it and will buy it without questioning whether they need it or not.
Excellent description between the two. I would have posted the same. Customers are those you want to please and that is incentive to provide good products/services. Consumers are those you want them to consume regardless.
It's a matter of priorities. Right now only people that want to go to the moon are enthusiasts but they make up a very small portion of the population and almost all lack money and political power. Look at politicos, they are all lawyers and business, the kind of people that would become very bored about discussing technology. If you argue potential to mine the moon for resources that may get their attention. But you better have a very good compelling business plan along with a excellent "elevator speech" that can be delivered in 30 seconds or less.
PBS program last week about struggles of black people from 1960s through today. Near end of program it was mentioned about maybe reason why so many blacks are still living in poverty (inner cities) is because racism has been institutionalized. Also for many white people they don't see blacks except on TV where typically they are seen as sports stars, entertainers, or getting dragged off to jail. There is the President but lately his popularity is not that high. Couple months ago Charlie Bolden, NASA Administrator, said he has experienced walking into a convention (where he is the only black guy) everyone looks at him like he is out of place (or is he one of the waiters?). When someone recognizes and points out he is the NASA Administrator (and former astronaut and Marine general), at an instant he becomes the most brilliant person in the room. (ok, there are many saying Bolden is not effective NASA Administrator but that's another topic for another discussion. Besides there have been white guys that were ineffective administrators).
It seems to me society should encourage math and science but lots of luck as this country is mesmerized by football. Or put resources into inner city schools will be a good start but unfortunately people will cry foul ("that's socialism!") or say we can't afford it (well we sure found plenty of money to pour into Afghanistan and Iraq). But perhaps ask those at these engineering societies, http://www.nsbe.org/ and http://www.ncalifblackengineer... for their suggestions on what they would present at HP.
The Day After is a silly, happy disney version of what would happen after a nuclear war.
I'm old enough to remember when The Day After was shown, it was scary. Of course there are some flaws/mistakes but climate at the time was quite heated. Reagan was very aggressive at building up military plus calling them the Evil Empire. I think what the film did get right, and still valid today, is if such war breaks out, it will because a few people in Washington DC and Moscow will decide to go to war. Us commoners have no say in the matter and there really isn't any place to seek refuge.
but how to grow your own food? That's a big one if industrial civilization were to collapse. Food from comes from farms, not supermarkets. And you'd be surprised how many people don't know that.
Now I want to know what components and parts were selected to make it last so long. Especially in terms of robotics having to deal with virtual vacuum (cannot use typical lubricants), dust and dirt didn't stop its gears (was it lunar dust that caused Chinese lunar rover to fail early in mission?). I think this needs continual funding with requirement of "alrighty how many more years will it last until it really bites the dust?"
I remember back in 20th century when F-35 was CALF, Common Affordable Lightweight Fighter, as many planners saw F22 becoming so expensive that not even the Pentagon could afford no more that 100 or so.
Some years ago an article mentioned Scott McNealy noticed amount of data being sent back and forth, and also amount of time people spending on preparing PPT. So he banned Powerpoint and there was noticeable increase in productivity, people actually doing stuff instead of futzing with PPT slides (though I also heard there was zero MS products on desktop computers at Sun so not sure how PPT was originally in place). For me when I do PPT, I typically do it in MS Word with pages in landscape orientation, then save it as PDF. When I gotta do PPT, I try to keep minimal cutesy graphics.
But maybe the whole concept of PPT type slides including old school viewgraphs and charts leads to people making bullet lists that contain contradictions. Like what Feynman pointed out of a slide NASA used for describing Shuttle ops and priorities and he marked two sentences that contradict each other, which was a contributing factor of leading to dangerous situations. I can't remember the details but it was one of those "yeow, we actually made that mistake?!?" moments.
Many people don't upgrade because they don't know how, or don't want to have to start from scratch.
yes, I never upgrade unless I'm forced to do so. But instead of upgrading I get a new computer. For me upgrades is same as tons-of-time-spent-on-computer-doing-crippy-crappy-time-wasting-chores-and-in-the-end-it-ain't-gonna-work-anyways.
Because it's hard and we have to learn hard things at school. We learn easy stuff at home like manners.
Corrine, Grade K
Because it always comes after reading.
Roger, Grade 1
Because all the calculators might run out of batteries or something.
Thomas, Grade 1
Because it's important. It's a law from President Clinton and it says so in the Bible on the first page.
Jolene, Grade 2
Because you can drown if you don't.
Amy Beth, Grade K
Because what would you do with your check from work when you grow up?
Brad, Grade 1
Because you have to count if you want to be an astronaut. Like 3... 2... 1... blast off!
Michael, Grade 1
Because you could never find the right page.
Maryanne, Grade 1
Because when you grow up, you couldn't tell if you are rich or not.
Raji, Grade 2
Because my teacher could get sued if we don't. That's what she said. Any subject we don't know--wham! She gets sued. And she's already poor.
Corky, Grade 3
that's what teachers call "timed tests." Very popular because easy to prepare, conduct, and grade. But getting into stuff like the number line, proportions, ratios, rates of change, etc. it becomes abstract. However, I wish I was given the number line and also do graphs in elementary school instead of waiting for college. I mean a number line that shows negative numbers. No need to get into complex graphs but can do stuff like plot quantities of stuff compared to other things.
They are still around but soon they will be no more. You will have to subscribe to a cellphone service and have a connection (lots of luck in rural areas). There is nav systems built into cars that contains maps in memory (but have to pay I heard a few hundreds every year to upgrade). Call me a luddite but I liked the Thomas Guides (map page and grid). Unlike large foldout maps, these are like a book. With paper maps I can quickly look at general spot of my destination, then do an overview on how to get there, then zoom in with my eyes to see specifics and cross streets. But the Thomas Guides are now out of print, I heard new versions are all screwed up.
These days you address by GPS coordinates (great for flying a helicopter or firing a cruise missile) but give me an address. These car nav systems are kind of dumb if you ask me. Ok so you key in the address and it will speak specific directions. But geez I don't want it to say, "turn on El Camino, drive 1.73 miles, turn right to enter hwy 85. turn left to 280, turn. " I know how to get on freeway to SF, it is the specific address in the big city I am interested in seeking.
I don't like using maps such as http://quickmap.dot.ca.gov/ on smartphones, screen too small to see detail unless I zoom in but then lose the overview.
and all quoted by sales/marketing and other non-engineers. What has changed is this new term STEM. Scary thing is STEM jobs, like pilots and actors, will become a two-tier system. Those that make a good livable wage, and those barely scraping by.
...Why this impact apparently emitted so much light?
I get that the asteroid probably had a LOT of kinetic energy,
yes, an asteroid in motion has a lot of kinetic energy. I ask same question considering the rock was not equipped with pyrotechnics and no O2 on the moon. And yet FLASH! it must be physics when a multi-ton rock comes to a screeching halt, energy has to go someplace. Besides light, think of the heat generated. There's probably slabs of cooled molten soil all around. Let's see, maybe I'll look into my Resnick and Halliday and do some calculations.
Going somewhat OT, it's not that Microsoft is evil, they are a corporation. A corporation is a machine, it has no conscious, no feelings, no empathy towards humans. This is why you can have lots of people with good intentions but they are in a machine that proceeds along its way. Of course there are those at the helm that can steer direction but I wonder if some of these corporations have become so big (i.e. those with one name but several different kinds of enterprises) that direction is dictated by stock markets and whatnot. Way back when these "machines" became so powerful it was necessary for The People through elected officials to create regulatory agencies such as FDA, SEC and the Fed. (though in reality their creations were not as simple as what I just wrote). Many of these govt agencies exist but fallen to regulatory capture, SEC and Fed are excellent examples of failing to prevent stock market abuses that have bankrupted US (both country and us commoners).
Communism was envisioned as a way to regulate corporations by creating a government where private businesses can exist, get rid of business that gets rid of problems big businesses create. This seems a good idea but only applicable for two-tier societies of very rich and very poor but difficult to implement when you have a middle class or trying put everyone on equal scales. And then there's the old joke of Capitalism is where man exploits man, Communism it's the other way around.
I kid you not, said to the interviewer, "Why do farmers need all that water anyway? Why can't they buy their food at a grocery store like everyone else?" Just. Wow.
Yep, and along those lines the bumper sticker says, "Food comes from farms, not supermarkets." In central Calif along highway 5 there are lots of signs of "Feinstein/Boxer/Pelosi created the water crisis." And it's these areas which only Republicans hold seats. Though large part of central Calif population are immigrants so they can't vote, but that's another story. Overall, vast majority of voting population of California are in cities so farm policies/plans don't seem to get much attention in the legislature. I wonder if better use of water can be done. I've not spent time but I'd like to see some numbers of water users. i.e. industries, farms, residence, etc. Where is most effective use? It seems most have not a clue. Getting back to farms, they want "their" water but much of it comes from other areas. Fortunately it is one big state. I wonder if it were two states or smaller states if there could be a war started between the two battling over water. I don't have the answers but it has to be a balanced approach. Farms need water or we'll all starve. Cities need water because that's where the people are. Water should not be drained completely from wildlife regions, huge break in ecosystem can have huge ramifications on everything. i.e. what happens if several critters go extinct when food chain broken. i.e. honey bees all disappear and many plants fail to get pollinated.
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I dabbled a little few years ago but there really not much interests me. Taking a look at Galaxy 19 lyngsat.com as suggested by Isao has stations of little interest to me. However, it was interesting to get some hands-on experience receiving signals from a satellite, ironically the day I first locked on to bird in the Clarke Belt was the same day Arthur died.
Also back then there were websites that you can download software and load this into one of those sat receivers and be able to watch DishTV, Direct, and other encrypted sites for free. However, these didn't offer much (I have no interest in football, soccer, hockey which all have 200 channels each). There were some premimun channels like TCM that I already have on cable, but then I may also dump cable because even TCM shows same movies over and over again (occasionally they will show something different i.e. a series of Mamie Van Doren movies). There were "local" TV stations from various towns like Bakersfield on these dish tv stations. But then almost all I have no interest so why bother.
Getting back to when I setup my satellite receiver. Someone at DeAnza Electronics flea market was selling DishTV Ku-band dishes and oddball sat receiver boxes for dirt cheap, had a whole stack of these and didn't want to crate them all to the dump. Living in a condo reduced my opportunities (all the birds were aligned away from my windows), I was not interested in mounting the dish on a awning of sorts (I was experimenting and had no long term deployment interest). I was able to just fit the dish into my skylight, borrowed a sat finder meter to help lock onto the bird, and it was exciting to see the bars all light up on the satellite receiver box (Comet I think was the brand). Go through the motions to select the frequencies and download the channels. It seemed it was more interesting technically than watching entertainment (again almost all channels were of no interest). I also referred to these sites, http://www.uksatellitehelp.co.... and http://emantechnology.com/stor.... There were some channels that were non-encrypted including NASA-TV Public channel (and this was back when Shuttle was flying). However these stations were able to do encryption far more difficult to hack, and they also encrypted all channels including "FTA" like NASA-TV.
Now there is C-band birds which NASA-TV provides non-encrypted including the Media channel but the antennas are big and hard to find. However, NASA-TV mostly has usual drivel repeated over and over. There was a time when everyone was dumping C-band dishes for free and great opportunity for experimentalists including those wanting a dish to do EME.
he will be sued into oblivion by the Star Wars Corp. for unauthorized use of costumes and trademarks.
thanks for the tutorial and come to think of it, last time I had engine failure while driving was with a 1970 Toyota (no power steering or brakes) decades ago. I have never had engine failure so I was thinking no such thing can occur but your post reminded us that, yes a car can have complete engine shutdown while driving at any speed.
few months ago watching "The Anderson Tapes" (early 1970s) and near end of movie police searching building for more robbery suspects find some equipment tapped into some of the buildings phone lines. Senior officer says, "whoever set this up better have a warrant!" Later the 'snoops' that have been tracking character played by Sean Connery erased and purged all the tapes of conversations they recorded because they could get in big trouble as none of it was authorized by the courts. Fast forward to these days, meh, that kind of storyline is totally ridiculous. There are other such movies back in the days when people did respect legalities of wiretapping and eavesdropping. Of course there were shenanigans played out by some govt agencies but they knew they were doing wrong so they had to cover it up. These days, they don't because "it's ok."
oops, kind of read that too fast. But if we do ban driver use, then the car cannot be used. If it is not used, then no crashes can occur. OK a silly remark but I'm sure there are some considering this a serious proposal (i.e. self driving cars).
this is the United States, you'd think we'd have great broadband like they have in places like Bulgaria. Maybe I'm getting factious/bitchy but Cringely wrote an article on how Silicon Valley went from the fastest to the slowest in high-speed internet (cannot find link to article right now).
and maybe also give SpaceX a boost.
"Customers" are people who pay you to do your job well.
"Consumers" are people that marking folks envision buying your product because they want it and will buy it without questioning whether they need it or not.
Excellent description between the two. I would have posted the same. Customers are those you want to please and that is incentive to provide good products/services. Consumers are those you want them to consume regardless.
It's a matter of priorities. Right now only people that want to go to the moon are enthusiasts but they make up a very small portion of the population and almost all lack money and political power. Look at politicos, they are all lawyers and business, the kind of people that would become very bored about discussing technology. If you argue potential to mine the moon for resources that may get their attention. But you better have a very good compelling business plan along with a excellent "elevator speech" that can be delivered in 30 seconds or less.
PBS program last week about struggles of black people from 1960s through today. Near end of program it was mentioned about maybe reason why so many blacks are still living in poverty (inner cities) is because racism has been institutionalized. Also for many white people they don't see blacks except on TV where typically they are seen as sports stars, entertainers, or getting dragged off to jail. There is the President but lately his popularity is not that high. Couple months ago Charlie Bolden, NASA Administrator, said he has experienced walking into a convention (where he is the only black guy) everyone looks at him like he is out of place (or is he one of the waiters?). When someone recognizes and points out he is the NASA Administrator (and former astronaut and Marine general), at an instant he becomes the most brilliant person in the room. (ok, there are many saying Bolden is not effective NASA Administrator but that's another topic for another discussion. Besides there have been white guys that were ineffective administrators).
It seems to me society should encourage math and science but lots of luck as this country is mesmerized by football. Or put resources into inner city schools will be a good start but unfortunately people will cry foul ("that's socialism!") or say we can't afford it (well we sure found plenty of money to pour into Afghanistan and Iraq). But perhaps ask those at these engineering societies, http://www.nsbe.org/ and http://www.ncalifblackengineer... for their suggestions on what they would present at HP.
The Day After is a silly, happy disney version of what would happen after a nuclear war.
I'm old enough to remember when The Day After was shown, it was scary. Of course there are some flaws/mistakes but climate at the time was quite heated. Reagan was very aggressive at building up military plus calling them the Evil Empire. I think what the film did get right, and still valid today, is if such war breaks out, it will because a few people in Washington DC and Moscow will decide to go to war. Us commoners have no say in the matter and there really isn't any place to seek refuge.
but how to grow your own food? That's a big one if industrial civilization were to collapse. Food from comes from farms, not supermarkets. And you'd be surprised how many people don't know that.
Now I want to know what components and parts were selected to make it last so long. Especially in terms of robotics having to deal with virtual vacuum (cannot use typical lubricants), dust and dirt didn't stop its gears (was it lunar dust that caused Chinese lunar rover to fail early in mission?). I think this needs continual funding with requirement of "alrighty how many more years will it last until it really bites the dust?"
F-35 being both Vaporware and an abortion ...
I remember back in 20th century when F-35 was CALF, Common Affordable Lightweight Fighter, as many planners saw F22 becoming so expensive that not even the Pentagon could afford no more that 100 or so.
Some years ago an article mentioned Scott McNealy noticed amount of data being sent back and forth, and also amount of time people spending on preparing PPT. So he banned Powerpoint and there was noticeable increase in productivity, people actually doing stuff instead of futzing with PPT slides (though I also heard there was zero MS products on desktop computers at Sun so not sure how PPT was originally in place). For me when I do PPT, I typically do it in MS Word with pages in landscape orientation, then save it as PDF. When I gotta do PPT, I try to keep minimal cutesy graphics.
But maybe the whole concept of PPT type slides including old school viewgraphs and charts leads to people making bullet lists that contain contradictions. Like what Feynman pointed out of a slide NASA used for describing Shuttle ops and priorities and he marked two sentences that contradict each other, which was a contributing factor of leading to dangerous situations. I can't remember the details but it was one of those "yeow, we actually made that mistake?!?" moments.
Many people don't upgrade because they don't know how, or don't want to have to start from scratch.
yes, I never upgrade unless I'm forced to do so. But instead of upgrading I get a new computer. For me upgrades is same as tons-of-time-spent-on-computer-doing-crippy-crappy-time-wasting-chores-and-in-the-end-it-ain't-gonna-work-anyways.
from a elementary school teacher in 1990s:
Because it's hard and we have to learn hard things at school. We learn easy stuff at home like manners.
Corrine, Grade K
Because it always comes after reading.
Roger, Grade 1
Because all the calculators might run out of batteries or something.
Thomas, Grade 1
Because it's important. It's a law from President Clinton and it says so in the Bible on the first page.
Jolene, Grade 2
Because you can drown if you don't.
Amy Beth, Grade K
Because what would you do with your check from work when you grow up?
Brad, Grade 1
Because you have to count if you want to be an astronaut. Like 3... 2... 1... blast off!
Michael, Grade 1
Because you could never find the right page.
Maryanne, Grade 1
Because when you grow up, you couldn't tell if you are rich or not.
Raji, Grade 2
Because my teacher could get sued if we don't. That's what she said. Any subject we don't know--wham! She gets sued. And she's already poor.
Corky, Grade 3
that's what teachers call "timed tests." Very popular because easy to prepare, conduct, and grade. But getting into stuff like the number line, proportions, ratios, rates of change, etc. it becomes abstract. However, I wish I was given the number line and also do graphs in elementary school instead of waiting for college. I mean a number line that shows negative numbers. No need to get into complex graphs but can do stuff like plot quantities of stuff compared to other things.
you do realize everyone under 40 has no idea what this means.
I have no idea what she was charged with but they took her away in handcuffs.
was she able to continue her conversation per hands-free feature on cellphone?
They are still around but soon they will be no more. You will have to subscribe to a cellphone service and have a connection (lots of luck in rural areas). There is nav systems built into cars that contains maps in memory (but have to pay I heard a few hundreds every year to upgrade). Call me a luddite but I liked the Thomas Guides (map page and grid). Unlike large foldout maps, these are like a book. With paper maps I can quickly look at general spot of my destination, then do an overview on how to get there, then zoom in with my eyes to see specifics and cross streets. But the Thomas Guides are now out of print, I heard new versions are all screwed up.
These days you address by GPS coordinates (great for flying a helicopter or firing a cruise missile) but give me an address. These car nav systems are kind of dumb if you ask me. Ok so you key in the address and it will speak specific directions. But geez I don't want it to say, "turn on El Camino, drive 1.73 miles, turn right to enter hwy 85. turn left to 280, turn. " I know how to get on freeway to SF, it is the specific address in the big city I am interested in seeking.
I don't like using maps such as http://quickmap.dot.ca.gov/ on smartphones, screen too small to see detail unless I zoom in but then lose the overview.
and all quoted by sales/marketing and other non-engineers. What has changed is this new term STEM. Scary thing is STEM jobs, like pilots and actors, will become a two-tier system. Those that make a good livable wage, and those barely scraping by.
...Why this impact apparently emitted so much light?
I get that the asteroid probably had a LOT of kinetic energy,
yes, an asteroid in motion has a lot of kinetic energy. I ask same question considering the rock was not equipped with pyrotechnics and no O2 on the moon. And yet FLASH! it must be physics when a multi-ton rock comes to a screeching halt, energy has to go someplace. Besides light, think of the heat generated. There's probably slabs of cooled molten soil all around. Let's see, maybe I'll look into my Resnick and Halliday and do some calculations.
Going somewhat OT, it's not that Microsoft is evil, they are a corporation. A corporation is a machine, it has no conscious, no feelings, no empathy towards humans. This is why you can have lots of people with good intentions but they are in a machine that proceeds along its way. Of course there are those at the helm that can steer direction but I wonder if some of these corporations have become so big (i.e. those with one name but several different kinds of enterprises) that direction is dictated by stock markets and whatnot. Way back when these "machines" became so powerful it was necessary for The People through elected officials to create regulatory agencies such as FDA, SEC and the Fed. (though in reality their creations were not as simple as what I just wrote). Many of these govt agencies exist but fallen to regulatory capture, SEC and Fed are excellent examples of failing to prevent stock market abuses that have bankrupted US (both country and us commoners).
Communism was envisioned as a way to regulate corporations by creating a government where private businesses can exist, get rid of business that gets rid of problems big businesses create. This seems a good idea but only applicable for two-tier societies of very rich and very poor but difficult to implement when you have a middle class or trying put everyone on equal scales. And then there's the old joke of Capitalism is where man exploits man, Communism it's the other way around.
I kid you not, said to the interviewer, "Why do farmers need all that water anyway? Why can't they buy their food at a grocery store like everyone else?" Just. Wow.
Yep, and along those lines the bumper sticker says, "Food comes from farms, not supermarkets." In central Calif along highway 5 there are lots of signs of "Feinstein/Boxer/Pelosi created the water crisis." And it's these areas which only Republicans hold seats. Though large part of central Calif population are immigrants so they can't vote, but that's another story. Overall, vast majority of voting population of California are in cities so farm policies/plans don't seem to get much attention in the legislature. I wonder if better use of water can be done. I've not spent time but I'd like to see some numbers of water users. i.e. industries, farms, residence, etc. Where is most effective use? It seems most have not a clue. Getting back to farms, they want "their" water but much of it comes from other areas. Fortunately it is one big state. I wonder if it were two states or smaller states if there could be a war started between the two battling over water. I don't have the answers but it has to be a balanced approach. Farms need water or we'll all starve. Cities need water because that's where the people are. Water should not be drained completely from wildlife regions, huge break in ecosystem can have huge ramifications on everything. i.e. what happens if several critters go extinct when food chain broken. i.e. honey bees all disappear and many plants fail to get pollinated.