Let me guess, you think Friedman is a genius, right?
FYI...the disaster we are in right now was only possible because of two things that reduced regulations and gave greater freedom to Wall Street: the de-fanging of Glass-Steigal and allowing the existence of CDSs.
Most regulations are put in place to prevent assholes from fucking everything up. Government systems are generally put in place with minimal regulation and as people figure out how to fuck people out of money, the government adds more regulation. So what happened is that we had a very very long spread of financial stability curtesy of Keynsian economics that gave the folks in government a false sense of security combined with the rampant Friedmanism to just let the markets work themselves out which led to this deregulation. And guess what? Within 10 years time we're in the worst economic downturn since the depression.
Sorry but if you have no idea how the government works or the world works, how can you possibly make intelligent decisions when you walk into the voting booth? You simply can't. Making an intelligent decision when voting is very important and if you don't know shit about shit then you're simply stupid because it shows you don't care what goes on in your own backyard. Unfortunately, this is the case with most Americans.
Wow, your post is so fucking wrong it's amazing. You're one of these guys who thinks that capitalism has some kind of magic fucking pixie dust that makes everything wonderful. Guess what, it doesn't. The system is gamed in every fucking way imaginable to make sure the playing fields are anything but level and that the so called "invisble hand" does nothing but stroke very specific benefactors.
As for your "Good decisions get rewarded, bad decisions punished" crapola, are you fucking kidding me? The fucking dickwads on Wall Street are already circle jerking the shit out of themselves with bonuses while millions more lose their jobs, retirement, and houses. So please spare me the broken windows fallacy bullshit. Power corrupts and warps anything it touches including your god, Capitalism.
FYI...I'm actually a capitalist but I'm realistic about what it is and isn't. Adam Smith was definitely on to the right idea but he didn't get it quite right. Friedman took Smith's ideas and made them far far worse.
Nah, Americans are just fucking stupid. Our education system breeds retards who aren't expected to think more than what "OMGWTFBFF" text message they are going to send next. Set low expectations and that's what you'll get, so we got it. And if you think I'm just trolling or flame baiting, do some google searches and see what simple shit questions the typical American can't answer. It's shocking.
FYI...I'm an American.
It's meaningless regardless because companies that aren't running clouds are already playing this game. And by non-cloud businesses, I mean manufacturing. Talk to any Irishman and I'm sure they would be happy to give you a dissertation on how this game works. Then in about two years ask the same question to a Polish man.
I hate to tell you this but software is released with known bugs ALL THE TIME. Every version of Windows, for example, ships with thousands of known bugs and some of these can render your system inoperable. They release it anyway because they believe the risk is low to the typical user. If software were never released because it could make your system inoperable or cause corruption, then no software would ever be produced (except for the space shuttle where the cost per line of code is ~$1000).
The bottom line is that Word is bloated with crap that 90% of its users never touch. So OpenOffice may not have every feature of Word but it has the vast majority of features that the average person requires. It's the reason why the greatest competitor of Office 2007 is Office 2003. There's 4 years of complete irrelevance. What this guy is likely referring to is that the users weren't willing to spend 5 minutes to learn something that's a little different because they expected OO to work exactly like Word.
Personally I can't stand Word due to it's extreme invasiveness. It tries so hard to think for me that the whole time I just get pissed off using it and this is in spite of my efforts to make it stop trying to think. Consequently, I spend more time trying to undo it's "thinking" rather than focusing on my thoughts. It gets in the way instead of out of it. It's over priced trash IMHO and I really can't fathom the fascination with it.
What makes you think that the incompetence is due to it being a government agency? I've worked at many companies that are so incompetent that I can't figure out how they stay in business.
Bureaucracies have their own innate incompetence, whether it's government or not is pretty much irrelevant.
lol...can't track them with a dead internet (besides the fact that they wouldn't be stupid enough to do it from their own machines in the first place). If they could pull it off, they could easily get away with it unless they were stupid enough to brag about it.
Yep, but as my link pointed out, C is not the most popular language. You need to realize that of all the coding done in the world, the VAST majority of it is for business apps -- not operating system/driver code.
I agree with your last statement but the rest of your post I can do without.
Assembler is great but it's a horrible choice for a first language. It was fine as a first language 30 years ago when people had simple expectations for software. I'm not saying to never learn it, but it's unnecessary as a first language.
C is not the most widely used commercial language and it certainly does not lead the way in open source (the open source movement started with Java). Both those categories belong to Java. As to my first point, look here: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html. That said, there's nothing wrong with learning C but it's hardly the future so I don't really recommend it except for the purpose of getting a background in procedural programming, pointer manipulation and manual memory management.
C++ it utter trash and a disaster of language that nobody should learn or use except to learn what not to do when designing a language.
learning Java and Python are good choices (although Java is getting a little long in the tooth but exposure to the JVM is a good thing).
So I guess you know that Glass-Steagall was defanged, right? I would classify this under "deregulation".
You're right, I don't know shit about you. That said, I'm glad you're reading stuff buy people like Adam Smith. However, most people don't really know how the world spins. Read something like The Shock Doctrine. It's a bit long, but everything she writes is annotated. I think you will get a better feel for what Friedman stands for after reading that. You can add Confessions of an Economic Hitman as well. Both books go extensively into what Friedman's ideas inspired. Friedman isn't Adam Smith. He's an extreme capitalist who pretty much believes that the ends justify the means.
Finally, you're obviously a young guy so good luck to you on getting into school, just don't go studying econ at the University of Chicago...
Yeah, I remember when I first learned to use google. Listen, you're going to have to actually learn to read books to get the truth rather than from dipshits on the internet. As for Friedman not supporting dictators, etc...sorry but everywhere his students went pain, suffering, and death went with them and they went all over the world (and yes, especially South America). On the surface he of course does not support these things but his progeny tell a completely different story. How fucking stupid do you think he is?
Finally, fuck the Community Reinvestment Act. I suppose you've never heard of Glass-Steagall? lol
Your knowledge of history is extremely superficial. It's what comes from learning everything from wikipedia and google searches. Please, for the love of god, start reading books.
Your reductionist argument is pathetic. From the looks of it, you have no fucking clue what Wave really is, and you certainly have no clue as to why it's important. Do everyone a favor and stick to commenting on things you actually understand.
lol...we've deregulated, gone to war, supported brutal dictators, and overturned governments because of Friedmanism and you're going to tell me they don't buy into it? Perhaps Friedman himself would have taken it farther but to deny his influence in modern America is exceptionally naive.
You realize we've only spent around 15% of that stimulus package so far, right? And the national debt is over 11 trillion. What do you think is costing more?
What the fuck are you talking about? Apparently you haven't paid much attention to history. The democrats have totally bought into Friedmanism just like the republicans. Welcome to America. Clinton was as free market as any republican president has been. In fact, a lot of the finance deregulation occurred under his watch (and the legalization of CDSs). Obama isn't likely to prove much different given what his administration has stated and done to date.
Apparently the dumbest motherfuckers on Earth are the ones who actually believe the platitudes espoused by these parties rather than what they actually fucking do.
It's because SQL isn't just SQL. It's all the cruft that goes with it. Accessing a DB from an OO language is simply a major fucking pain in the ass and much harder than it should be even when using the ORM du jour. A lot of this complexity comes from the fact that OO and RDBS just don't play well together no matter how you slice it. Instead of focusing on the business domain you end up spending far too much time dicking with the data layer. A lot of this would go away by using an OO database but then you lose the scalability of these other technologies.
Personally, while I find the notion a bit revolting, I think it's great. Both parties know exactly what they're getting into. There's no pretense about it. I would say that honestly in a relationship is very important even when it's a totally contrived relationship.
$33 million is great but there are no such things as on-time and on-budget DoD projects. They ALWAYS go over budget, so by the time this thing is done it will cost at least 10x that amount.
That's just it. Most managers and executives don't know shit about software development so they don't know when shit is going bad. Hire people who know how to run software. This notion that project management is all the same regardless of industry is a bunch of crap.
Yeah, your post is a perfect example of why an MBA will never work on an open source project. The concept of doing something just because it's cool or would benefit humanity is completely lost on an MBA type. It's sad that you don't understand the concept of giving.
First, I want to apologize to you for being insulting and disrespectful. I suffer from chronic depression and for some reason it periodically creeps out in the form of a bad post. So, I apologize for that.
How many CEO's we each know isn't particularly relevant since neither of us know enough to really amount to any statistical significance. I know two, btw. One actually was forced into either moving his operation offshore to remain competitive or retire early. He chose to retire early because he felt like he would be selling his country out by going offshore.
I agree that there are a lot of costs associated with moving operations. However, this model is becoming more prevalent. Hell, just look at Ireland since most of the companies that moved there during their boom have all left for Poland and now their economy is collapsing in a big way. These are companies that have figured out how to make this whole moving around thing work and I think it will get a lot more popular over the next decade. I think you're right that there are some CEOs that would like to stay here and will do what they can to make that happen but at some point it can be impossible to compete with Asia except in high-end items where people don't mind paying a premium.
As for Cap and Trade, yeah, I don't really think it will do shit for CO2 emissions either, at least not near term. It may dissuade companies from building high polluting plants in the future though. But I do agree that now may not be the best time to implement such a plan.
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OMG dude, you're so brainwashed.
Let me guess, you think Friedman is a genius, right?
FYI...the disaster we are in right now was only possible because of two things that reduced regulations and gave greater freedom to Wall Street: the de-fanging of Glass-Steigal and allowing the existence of CDSs. Most regulations are put in place to prevent assholes from fucking everything up. Government systems are generally put in place with minimal regulation and as people figure out how to fuck people out of money, the government adds more regulation. So what happened is that we had a very very long spread of financial stability curtesy of Keynsian economics that gave the folks in government a false sense of security combined with the rampant Friedmanism to just let the markets work themselves out which led to this deregulation. And guess what? Within 10 years time we're in the worst economic downturn since the depression.
Sorry but if you have no idea how the government works or the world works, how can you possibly make intelligent decisions when you walk into the voting booth? You simply can't. Making an intelligent decision when voting is very important and if you don't know shit about shit then you're simply stupid because it shows you don't care what goes on in your own backyard. Unfortunately, this is the case with most Americans.
Wow, your post is so fucking wrong it's amazing. You're one of these guys who thinks that capitalism has some kind of magic fucking pixie dust that makes everything wonderful. Guess what, it doesn't. The system is gamed in every fucking way imaginable to make sure the playing fields are anything but level and that the so called "invisble hand" does nothing but stroke very specific benefactors.
As for your "Good decisions get rewarded, bad decisions punished" crapola, are you fucking kidding me? The fucking dickwads on Wall Street are already circle jerking the shit out of themselves with bonuses while millions more lose their jobs, retirement, and houses. So please spare me the broken windows fallacy bullshit. Power corrupts and warps anything it touches including your god, Capitalism.
FYI...I'm actually a capitalist but I'm realistic about what it is and isn't. Adam Smith was definitely on to the right idea but he didn't get it quite right. Friedman took Smith's ideas and made them far far worse.
Nah, Americans are just fucking stupid. Our education system breeds retards who aren't expected to think more than what "OMGWTFBFF" text message they are going to send next. Set low expectations and that's what you'll get, so we got it. And if you think I'm just trolling or flame baiting, do some google searches and see what simple shit questions the typical American can't answer. It's shocking. FYI...I'm an American.
It's meaningless regardless because companies that aren't running clouds are already playing this game. And by non-cloud businesses, I mean manufacturing. Talk to any Irishman and I'm sure they would be happy to give you a dissertation on how this game works. Then in about two years ask the same question to a Polish man.
I hate to tell you this but software is released with known bugs ALL THE TIME. Every version of Windows, for example, ships with thousands of known bugs and some of these can render your system inoperable. They release it anyway because they believe the risk is low to the typical user. If software were never released because it could make your system inoperable or cause corruption, then no software would ever be produced (except for the space shuttle where the cost per line of code is ~$1000).
Please show me where I used the words stupid or lazy in my post. Looks like you're the problem.
The bottom line is that Word is bloated with crap that 90% of its users never touch. So OpenOffice may not have every feature of Word but it has the vast majority of features that the average person requires. It's the reason why the greatest competitor of Office 2007 is Office 2003. There's 4 years of complete irrelevance. What this guy is likely referring to is that the users weren't willing to spend 5 minutes to learn something that's a little different because they expected OO to work exactly like Word.
Personally I can't stand Word due to it's extreme invasiveness. It tries so hard to think for me that the whole time I just get pissed off using it and this is in spite of my efforts to make it stop trying to think. Consequently, I spend more time trying to undo it's "thinking" rather than focusing on my thoughts. It gets in the way instead of out of it. It's over priced trash IMHO and I really can't fathom the fascination with it.
What makes you think that the incompetence is due to it being a government agency? I've worked at many companies that are so incompetent that I can't figure out how they stay in business. Bureaucracies have their own innate incompetence, whether it's government or not is pretty much irrelevant.
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure he's the brother of Hard Cox and his sister is Love Cox.
lol...can't track them with a dead internet (besides the fact that they wouldn't be stupid enough to do it from their own machines in the first place). If they could pull it off, they could easily get away with it unless they were stupid enough to brag about it.
Yep, but as my link pointed out, C is not the most popular language. You need to realize that of all the coding done in the world, the VAST majority of it is for business apps -- not operating system/driver code.
I agree with your last statement but the rest of your post I can do without.
Assembler is great but it's a horrible choice for a first language. It was fine as a first language 30 years ago when people had simple expectations for software. I'm not saying to never learn it, but it's unnecessary as a first language.
C is not the most widely used commercial language and it certainly does not lead the way in open source (the open source movement started with Java). Both those categories belong to Java. As to my first point, look here: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html. That said, there's nothing wrong with learning C but it's hardly the future so I don't really recommend it except for the purpose of getting a background in procedural programming, pointer manipulation and manual memory management.
C++ it utter trash and a disaster of language that nobody should learn or use except to learn what not to do when designing a language.
learning Java and Python are good choices (although Java is getting a little long in the tooth but exposure to the JVM is a good thing).
So I guess you know that Glass-Steagall was defanged, right? I would classify this under "deregulation".
You're right, I don't know shit about you. That said, I'm glad you're reading stuff buy people like Adam Smith. However, most people don't really know how the world spins. Read something like The Shock Doctrine. It's a bit long, but everything she writes is annotated. I think you will get a better feel for what Friedman stands for after reading that. You can add Confessions of an Economic Hitman as well. Both books go extensively into what Friedman's ideas inspired. Friedman isn't Adam Smith. He's an extreme capitalist who pretty much believes that the ends justify the means. Finally, you're obviously a young guy so good luck to you on getting into school, just don't go studying econ at the University of Chicago...
Yeah, I remember when I first learned to use google. Listen, you're going to have to actually learn to read books to get the truth rather than from dipshits on the internet. As for Friedman not supporting dictators, etc...sorry but everywhere his students went pain, suffering, and death went with them and they went all over the world (and yes, especially South America). On the surface he of course does not support these things but his progeny tell a completely different story. How fucking stupid do you think he is? Finally, fuck the Community Reinvestment Act. I suppose you've never heard of Glass-Steagall? lol Your knowledge of history is extremely superficial. It's what comes from learning everything from wikipedia and google searches. Please, for the love of god, start reading books.
Your reductionist argument is pathetic. From the looks of it, you have no fucking clue what Wave really is, and you certainly have no clue as to why it's important. Do everyone a favor and stick to commenting on things you actually understand.
lol...we've deregulated, gone to war, supported brutal dictators, and overturned governments because of Friedmanism and you're going to tell me they don't buy into it? Perhaps Friedman himself would have taken it farther but to deny his influence in modern America is exceptionally naive.
You realize we've only spent around 15% of that stimulus package so far, right? And the national debt is over 11 trillion. What do you think is costing more?
What the fuck are you talking about? Apparently you haven't paid much attention to history. The democrats have totally bought into Friedmanism just like the republicans. Welcome to America. Clinton was as free market as any republican president has been. In fact, a lot of the finance deregulation occurred under his watch (and the legalization of CDSs). Obama isn't likely to prove much different given what his administration has stated and done to date. Apparently the dumbest motherfuckers on Earth are the ones who actually believe the platitudes espoused by these parties rather than what they actually fucking do.
It's because SQL isn't just SQL. It's all the cruft that goes with it. Accessing a DB from an OO language is simply a major fucking pain in the ass and much harder than it should be even when using the ORM du jour. A lot of this complexity comes from the fact that OO and RDBS just don't play well together no matter how you slice it. Instead of focusing on the business domain you end up spending far too much time dicking with the data layer. A lot of this would go away by using an OO database but then you lose the scalability of these other technologies.
Personally, while I find the notion a bit revolting, I think it's great. Both parties know exactly what they're getting into. There's no pretense about it. I would say that honestly in a relationship is very important even when it's a totally contrived relationship.
$33 million is great but there are no such things as on-time and on-budget DoD projects. They ALWAYS go over budget, so by the time this thing is done it will cost at least 10x that amount.
That's just it. Most managers and executives don't know shit about software development so they don't know when shit is going bad. Hire people who know how to run software. This notion that project management is all the same regardless of industry is a bunch of crap.
Yeah, your post is a perfect example of why an MBA will never work on an open source project. The concept of doing something just because it's cool or would benefit humanity is completely lost on an MBA type. It's sad that you don't understand the concept of giving.
First, I want to apologize to you for being insulting and disrespectful. I suffer from chronic depression and for some reason it periodically creeps out in the form of a bad post. So, I apologize for that.
How many CEO's we each know isn't particularly relevant since neither of us know enough to really amount to any statistical significance. I know two, btw. One actually was forced into either moving his operation offshore to remain competitive or retire early. He chose to retire early because he felt like he would be selling his country out by going offshore.
I agree that there are a lot of costs associated with moving operations. However, this model is becoming more prevalent. Hell, just look at Ireland since most of the companies that moved there during their boom have all left for Poland and now their economy is collapsing in a big way. These are companies that have figured out how to make this whole moving around thing work and I think it will get a lot more popular over the next decade. I think you're right that there are some CEOs that would like to stay here and will do what they can to make that happen but at some point it can be impossible to compete with Asia except in high-end items where people don't mind paying a premium.
As for Cap and Trade, yeah, I don't really think it will do shit for CO2 emissions either, at least not near term. It may dissuade companies from building high polluting plants in the future though. But I do agree that now may not be the best time to implement such a plan.