>and therefore increase participation in Mozilla. Because, after all, >the code is out there. Or maybe it wouldn't.
It won't. Why? Because the Mozilla guys have shown that they aren't interested in supporting Windows 3.11, only Win95 and above which is silly considering the huge number of people still using Win 3.11/WGFW 3.11 on older laptops and computers. If this going to be their attuide, then why bother creating a smaller brower that'll only run on machines running Win95? The whole approach seems backwards.
It is Open Source, but AOL is saying companies can't come along and try to pull BSD-style bullshit with it, which seems to be what Microsoft and the others are trying to get away with, and people like yourself seem to be supporting. I wonder did Yahoo and the others even bother asking for AOL's permission to connect to their servers to begin with?
You have to understand. These guys are Microsoft Trolls. Remember how they went around claiming that you couldn't count on support for linux because linux support was unstable because it had no real backing. Now that it looks like Andover.Net may bring that backing to sites like Slashdot and Freshmeat, they need to come up with a new way to attack Linux.....
>nfortunately Linux is buggy like an old rug, and those kernel >upgrades are in fact *needed* to keep production servers alive >(actually, no sober sysadmin would run Linux on a production server - >but there's no such thing as a sober sysadmin anyway). Hmmm. Don't you reallly mean Windows 2000 rather than Linux? In case you didn't know as of 8/10/1999 at 7:48 am the Windows2000test.com site has gone down yet again....Doesn't say much for you and your microsoft buddies, does it?
If you don't like how things are done on Slashdot,then get lost. No one's asking you to stay.
This post of yours has to be one of the most idiotic things I've come across. *You* sir are in no postintion to dictate to *ANYBODY* how they should go about posting any sort of message. If you don't like seeing this message too fucking bad (for *YOU* that is)
>I'd predict, since it's likely on campus at Redmond, that they have >no need to contract any MSCE's to run the test site. I suspect the >NT2000 development team is involved.
And who do you think is responsible for creating the training for the MSCE's in the first place?
Um. Not really. You see Microsoft are most likely using MCSE's to work on their Windows 2000 test site. That's why it's been down 90% of the time since the challege started....
The Microsoft site has bit the dust yet again (12:52 am on 8/8/1999) even after the new Mickysoft upgrades. The Linux PPC site is still up and running though.
>Sounds like Oracle is desperate for some good PR. They're taking a >beating for backing out of the recent PC Magazine performance test. You are an idoit, you know that? After all the MindCraft/PC Week benchmark bullshit, a company like Oracle would really have to stupid to allow their product to be "benchmarked" by a magazine like PC Magazine. They quite simply don't have either the knowlege or the skills to pull something like this off, and more and more people are realizing this. You're going to see even more companies refuse to allow their products to be "reviewed" in mags that use that kind of shoddy testing in the future.
4:21 pm on 8/3/1999...Microsoft's test WWW site seems to be deader than 3-day-old roadkill and all's well...
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>We (the Linux community) have complained about software modems for >years. Doesn't it seem a bit hypocritical for us to do the same thing?
Nope. The problem was that the companies (3com ect) that make this junk (winmodems) and their supporters wanted the linux users to basically create the drivers for them, which we absolutely refused to do. Now that a company has created the drivers for their modem it's no big deal, since they aren't basically telling us to do *their* job for them. If anything, this is going to put the rest of the winmodem makers in a bind. If they don't start shipping drivers for other platforms, people are most likely going to start asking why? There's a pretty good chance we might even start seeing lawsuits being filed against winmodem makers because of this. This story ought to proving interesting.....
>USB gamepads are nice (you can daisy-chain 4 of them for multiplayer >games), etc.
Who cares? I play games on the Playstation, not the PC these days, and I really don't have the slightest interest in digital cameras (USB or otherwise.)
>the same OS that's preferred by hardcore hackers can be turned into a >newbie-friendly system -- without sacrificing stability or >functionality. Linux has room for everyone.
Execept for Windows-using,Winmodem-loving script-kiddies like yourself. We "hard-core linux hackers" don't want or need your kind.
USB in demand? By who? Pretty much the only people I've seen "demanding" USB "products" are the "computer jornalists" who write articles for Ziff-Davis mags. Tell us something. Exactly what is a USB keyboard or modem good for? Other than eating up your money that is....
>Online retailers should be very, very worried. This is going to be >pretty bad for the overall economy, too...
Yeah right. You're talking like the majority of people who don't own a computer/webtv thingy is going to run out and buy one just so they can buy a book or some other junk from Amazon.Com. Get real.
Speaking as someone who has and most likely never will buy anything from the web, I have to ask so what?!? So the techno-snobs will have to pay taxes on the stuff they buy just like everybody else. Big fucking deal.
>A while ago I tried Linux with three different mice, all from >different manufacturers. XF86Setup couldn't get any of them to work >correctly, while Windows handled them all fine.
And just who makes these mice you are claiming Linux/XF86Setup wouldn't dectect. I personally think you are lying though your teeth especially since you refuse to name the maker of the mice. On the other hand I just replaced a 2-button PS/2 mouse with a 3-button Belkin PS/2-Serial mouse that I got from Wal-Mart for $7.95 on my system running RedHat 5.2 and didn't have to make any changes *WHATSOEVER*. Didn't have to switch or modify mouse drivers or change their config files or anything like that. I just unpluged the old mouse and plugged in the new one. In fact my XF86Setup is still configured to emulate a 3rd button with a two-button PS/2 mouse, haven't bothered changing it because X sees I now have a 3-button mouse.
Exactly. PC gaming is dying and pretty much everybody knows it. That's why you keep seeing all this crap about how Linux needs games. Wrong. The PC game market/companies want the cash that linux users are spending on the PlayStation and other NON-PC based gaming systems.
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>and therefore increase participation in Mozilla. Because, after all, >the code is out there. Or maybe it wouldn't.
It won't. Why? Because the Mozilla guys have shown that they aren't interested in supporting Windows 3.11, only Win95 and above which is silly considering the huge number of people still using Win 3.11/WGFW 3.11 on older laptops and computers. If this going to be their attuide, then why bother creating a smaller brower that'll only run on machines running Win95? The whole approach seems backwards.
It is Open Source, but AOL is saying companies can't come along and try to pull BSD-style bullshit with it, which seems to be what Microsoft and the others are trying to get away with, and people like yourself seem to be supporting. I wonder did Yahoo and the others even bother asking for AOL's permission to connect to their servers to begin with?
>I personally dislike RHs installer, because it doesn't let me install >without a swap partition. What a BS!!
And when you start running into problems because you don't have a swap partition don't come bitching to us about it, ok?
You have to understand. These guys are Microsoft Trolls. Remember how they went around claiming that you couldn't count on support for linux because linux support was unstable because it had no real backing. Now that it looks like Andover.Net may bring that backing to sites like Slashdot and Freshmeat, they need to come up with a new way to attack Linux.....
Yup. Intel wants to avoid a repeat of Microsoft's Windows 2000 challenge disaster on their new processor.
>nfortunately Linux is buggy like an old rug, and those kernel >upgrades are in fact *needed* to keep production servers alive >(actually, no sober sysadmin would run Linux on a production server - >but there's no such thing as a sober sysadmin anyway).
Hmmm. Don't you reallly mean Windows 2000 rather than Linux? In case you didn't know as of 8/10/1999 at 7:48 am the Windows2000test.com site has gone down yet again....Doesn't say much for you and your microsoft buddies, does it?
If you don't like how things are done on Slashdot,then get lost. No one's asking you to stay.
This post of yours has to be one of the most idiotic things I've come across. *You* sir are in no postintion to dictate to *ANYBODY* how they should go about posting any sort of message. If you don't like seeing this message too fucking bad (for *YOU* that is)
Not if they want to keep their jobs they won't.....
Good ridance. Just means one less Win95/Win98/WinCrash2000 script_kiddie using Linux/BSD as root....
>I'd predict, since it's likely on campus at Redmond, that they have >no need to contract any MSCE's to run the test site. I suspect the >NT2000 development team is involved.
And who do you think is responsible for creating the training for the MSCE's in the first place?
Um. Not really. You see Microsoft are most likely using MCSE's to work on their Windows 2000 test site. That's why it's been down 90% of the time since the challege started....
The Microsoft site has bit the dust yet again (12:52 am on 8/8/1999) even after the new Mickysoft upgrades. The Linux PPC site is still up and running though.
>Whence this assumption that the only people trying to bust this box >are script kiddies?
Well the fact that you are trying to login as root on a linux box doesn't help the script kiddie movement very much does it?
>Sounds like Oracle is desperate for some good PR. They're taking a >beating for backing out of the recent PC Magazine performance test.
You are an idoit, you know that? After all the MindCraft/PC Week benchmark bullshit, a company like Oracle would really have to stupid to allow their product to be "benchmarked" by a magazine like PC Magazine. They quite simply don't have either the knowlege or the skills to pull something like this off, and more and more people are realizing this. You're going to see even more companies refuse to allow their products to be "reviewed" in mags that use that kind of shoddy testing in the future.
It would be better to make this an user-configable option wouldn't it?
4:21 pm on 8/3/1999...Microsoft's test WWW site seems to be deader than 3-day-old roadkill and all's well...
>We (the Linux community) have complained about software modems for >years. Doesn't it seem a bit hypocritical for us to do the same thing?
Nope. The problem was that the companies (3com ect) that make this junk (winmodems) and their supporters wanted the linux users to basically create the drivers for them, which we absolutely refused to do. Now that a company has created the drivers for their modem it's no big deal, since they aren't basically telling us to do *their* job for them. If anything, this is going to put the rest of the winmodem makers in a bind. If they don't start shipping drivers for other platforms, people are most likely going to start asking why? There's a pretty good chance we might even start seeing lawsuits being filed against winmodem makers because of this. This story ought to proving interesting.....
>USB gamepads are nice (you can daisy-chain 4 of them for multiplayer >games), etc.
Who cares? I play games on the Playstation, not the PC these days, and I really don't have the slightest interest in digital cameras (USB or otherwise.)
>the same OS that's preferred by hardcore hackers can be turned into a >newbie-friendly system -- without sacrificing stability or >functionality. Linux has room for everyone.
Execept for Windows-using,Winmodem-loving script-kiddies like yourself. We "hard-core linux hackers" don't want or need your kind.
USB in demand? By who? Pretty much the only people I've seen "demanding" USB "products" are the "computer jornalists" who write articles for Ziff-Davis mags. Tell us something. Exactly what is a USB keyboard or modem good for? Other than eating up your money that is....
>Don't think of them as just modems. Because they currently do not >work in Linux doesn't mean they're crap. WinModems have many >possibilities.
As what? Filler for landfills like the old Atari 2600 carts?
>Online retailers should be very, very worried. This is going to be >pretty bad for the overall economy, too...
Yeah right. You're talking like the majority of people who don't own a computer/webtv thingy is going to run out and buy one just so they can buy a book or some other junk from Amazon.Com. Get real.
Speaking as someone who has and most likely never will buy anything from the web, I have to ask so what?!? So the techno-snobs will have to pay taxes on the stuff they buy just like everybody else. Big fucking deal.
>A while ago I tried Linux with three different mice, all from >different manufacturers. XF86Setup couldn't get any of them to work >correctly, while Windows handled them all fine.
And just who makes these mice you are claiming Linux/XF86Setup wouldn't dectect. I personally think you are lying though your teeth especially since you refuse to name the maker of the mice. On the other hand I just replaced a 2-button PS/2 mouse with a 3-button Belkin PS/2-Serial mouse that I got from Wal-Mart for $7.95 on my system running RedHat 5.2 and didn't have to make any changes *WHATSOEVER*. Didn't have to switch or modify mouse drivers or change their config files or anything like that. I just unpluged the old mouse and plugged in the new one. In fact my XF86Setup is still configured to emulate a 3rd button with a two-button PS/2 mouse, haven't bothered changing it because X sees I now have a 3-button mouse.
Exactly. PC gaming is dying and pretty much everybody knows it. That's why you keep seeing all this crap about how Linux needs games. Wrong. The PC game market/companies want the cash that linux users are spending on the PlayStation and other NON-PC based gaming systems.