The BSD layer is pretty IRRELEVANT to the average user.
To the typical person wandering around the Apple Store, it is the OpenStep layer that is the OS. Those people will never be aware of or interact with the BSD layer EVER. For them, the GUI is the OS.
That is perhaps the most important aspect of this situation for normal Mac users. They don't have to worry about bash because it's invisible and irrelevant.
Treat it methodically and there really isn't any difference. Snape is probably just as much of a scientist as any chemist. He just practices in a different domain. The same is probably true of Gandalf.
Make him a member of Psi-corps and suddenly it's all good and obviously sci-fi again.
Fixating on the list of distributions that do or don't default to bash really is kind of pointless. The vast majority of impacted systems are going to be servers and especially corporate servers. The real question is what is the distro breakdown there.
So it's far more interesting that Redhat/CentOS/Fedora is on the "bad" list than any of the more obscure options.
SLES/Suse would also be a good one to include for relevant completeness.
No. The problem is that bash allows functions to be defined AND run in a variable declaration. It's the classic case of muddling the line between data and programs. This is what allows a remote exploiter to feed anything they like into your copy of bash.
Defining functions in environment variables seems like a weird idea. Is anyone crazy enough to use that and if so then why?
> Of course, as a sysadmin I should also be a software engineer. How stupid of me.
Yes you are stupid. Being enough of a "software engineer" to patch bash is a pretty pathetically low bar for any computing professional anywhere. It doesn't matter if they are "only a sysadmin".
It's not exactly rocket science.
This is what you get when your OS vendor tells you that you can have trained monkeys manage your systems.
This is an optional user level program with a number of alternatives. In terms of change impact and ability to patch, this has to be about the simplest vulnerability to patch possible.
There are a large number of systems where the fix for this is simply to delete the thing.
Being subject to grave bodily injury over a billing snafu is a little more serious than "not being given a car".
There should be some interesting Tort implications here. Although you sheep have been happily undermining that too. So these banks might KILL someone and get away with it.
Is that you Joe? You sound like Joe the Plumber, a poser with no clue and no real experience but eager to repeat the propaganda of your Robber Baron masters.
No. The US tax code also panders to the small company, single proprietor, or even the guy that just does 1099 contracting.
How can you have a standard like that if it doesn't dictate teaching methods? This is especially true for math where you don't just regurgitate the correct answer. The method is a part of the correct answer. For that you pretty much have to "dictate the teaching method".
Who exactly do you think you can kid with this kind of nonsense here?
Old fucks fought a WAR against the Japanese. I would give them a pass for retaining some of the obvious and foreseeable animosity that would have come from that. I would cut Japanese geezers the same slack.
If you object to nanny state nonsense, the full article isn't any better. You are under the mistaken impression that there is an amount of lipstick you could put on this pig to make it acceptable.
We can all cite examples from our own personal experience where women succeed. They succeed primarily by choosing not to be victims and taking care of business. Many of these women are equally annoyed by the cult of victimhood.
The truth actually is "worse" than that. Women that are capable of just taking care of business also tend to find less resistance from men and experience more of a meritocracy among their male colleagues. Male colleagues may actually be more accepting of them than female coworkers.
The "he man woman haters club" is more likely to be populated by lower ranking women then men of any rank.
The Feminazis are already doing that. They can't stand it that other people make different choices. People choose to do things that they don't approve of. This could include motherhood or making nude photos. Feminists want to interfere with the choices of others as much as "church lady" types do.
People should be free to do what they want. That was kind of the point of Emma's speech.
No they don't. Once you control for things like job role and qualifications, things come out pretty equal. You can find discrepancies if you try to compare teachers to high rise welders but that's an apple's and oranges comparison.
It's Ukraine. Regimes change like the weather in other places. If you don't like the one now, all you have to do is wait awhile. It will change soon enough.
They're like the Iraq of the former USSR.
No grand conspiracies are really needed. Although that doesn't stop Putin from going out of his way to make it look like there is one.
> Desktops are overvalued @200 dollars compared to cheap tablets with 2-4 cores and 1-2GB of ram for ~50 dollars...
Those desktops will still run circles around the tablets once you stray off the reservation. They are good at some very narrow tasks only. The moment you do something interesting that wasn't accounted for in the SoC, you are screwed.
Cheap tablets have to "outsource" any voice recognition to some server across the network.
The overvalued desktop can do that stuff on it's own.
A lot of ARM devices are pretty useless without some sort of mothership running a real CPU.
My all time least favorite name brand PC is actually Apple.
Of all of the brands I have dealt with, it is by far the most crapulent. My brand name PCs that are supposed to be so sh*tty just chug along and do their job until they become too obsolete to tweak anymore.
Plus, Macs are relatively untweakable relegating them to doorstop status quicker than some clone sh*tbox.
HELL, there was an article about this last week talking about how vulture capitalists love to take over sensibly run companies and then trash them for short tern gain. By sensible, I mean that they own their own facilities. This means something like a restaurant chain owning their own buildings.
The vultures will come in, swoop down, sell off the real estate and set up lease back scams saddling the once well engineered company with ugly ongoing operating costs. The proceeds from the real estate sales will be sucked out by the vultures.
The sad part of this is that Dell had already assimilated an up-market brand. There's really no cause for this excuse of theirs that they couldn't target the high end while being public. They already had an up-market label to put on this kind of stuff.
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Of course. They are a bunch of sociopaths that can't wait to screw over everyone else. So are their end users.
Of course sociopaths want to stay well away from the GPL3. It closed a loophole that could be used to subvert the intent of the authors.
The BSD layer is pretty IRRELEVANT to the average user.
To the typical person wandering around the Apple Store, it is the OpenStep layer that is the OS. Those people will never be aware of or interact with the BSD layer EVER. For them, the GUI is the OS.
That is perhaps the most important aspect of this situation for normal Mac users. They don't have to worry about bash because it's invisible and irrelevant.
> If there was no video then how did Spock watch Kirk fight the Gorn?
That was provided by the advanced alien race that created that situation to begin with.
Treat it methodically and there really isn't any difference. Snape is probably just as much of a scientist as any chemist. He just practices in a different domain. The same is probably true of Gandalf.
Make him a member of Psi-corps and suddenly it's all good and obviously sci-fi again.
Spain, Italy, and Greece all seem to validate such 'primitive concerns'.
The problem of negative cashflow is such a basic one that it wouldn't even be disputed in any other context.
Fixating on the list of distributions that do or don't default to bash really is kind of pointless. The vast majority of impacted systems are going to be servers and especially corporate servers. The real question is what is the distro breakdown there.
So it's far more interesting that Redhat/CentOS/Fedora is on the "bad" list than any of the more obscure options.
SLES/Suse would also be a good one to include for relevant completeness.
No. The problem is that bash allows functions to be defined AND run in a variable declaration. It's the classic case of muddling the line between data and programs. This is what allows a remote exploiter to feed anything they like into your copy of bash.
Defining functions in environment variables seems like a weird idea. Is anyone crazy enough to use that and if so then why?
> Of course, as a sysadmin I should also be a software engineer. How stupid of me.
Yes you are stupid. Being enough of a "software engineer" to patch bash is a pretty pathetically low bar for any computing professional anywhere. It doesn't matter if they are "only a sysadmin".
It's not exactly rocket science.
This is what you get when your OS vendor tells you that you can have trained monkeys manage your systems.
No.
On Linux we have bugs.
On Windows you still have rampant malware that's taking your data hostage.
Despite Lemming attempts to conflate every software bug with a Windows virus that does actual damage, it simply isn't so.
The strong technical merits are still there. Windows is still a festering cesspit. Legacy apps remain the only real reason to run WinDOS.
This is an optional user level program with a number of alternatives. In terms of change impact and ability to patch, this has to be about the simplest vulnerability to patch possible.
There are a large number of systems where the fix for this is simply to delete the thing.
It's nothing like heartbleed.
Being subject to grave bodily injury over a billing snafu is a little more serious than "not being given a car".
There should be some interesting Tort implications here. Although you sheep have been happily undermining that too. So these banks might KILL someone and get away with it.
Is that you Joe? You sound like Joe the Plumber, a poser with no clue and no real experience but eager to repeat the propaganda of your Robber Baron masters.
No. The US tax code also panders to the small company, single proprietor, or even the guy that just does 1099 contracting.
Canada probably has far less demand.
We have more immigrants (of all kinds) than they have total population.
It's easy to get into Afghanistan too apparently.
How can you have a standard like that if it doesn't dictate teaching methods? This is especially true for math where you don't just regurgitate the correct answer. The method is a part of the correct answer. For that you pretty much have to "dictate the teaching method".
Who exactly do you think you can kid with this kind of nonsense here?
Old fucks fought a WAR against the Japanese. I would give them a pass for retaining some of the obvious and foreseeable animosity that would have come from that. I would cut Japanese geezers the same slack.
If you object to nanny state nonsense, the full article isn't any better. You are under the mistaken impression that there is an amount of lipstick you could put on this pig to make it acceptable.
This comes from seeing women actually achieve.
We can all cite examples from our own personal experience where women succeed. They succeed primarily by choosing not to be victims and taking care of business. Many of these women are equally annoyed by the cult of victimhood.
The truth actually is "worse" than that. Women that are capable of just taking care of business also tend to find less resistance from men and experience more of a meritocracy among their male colleagues. Male colleagues may actually be more accepting of them than female coworkers.
The "he man woman haters club" is more likely to be populated by lower ranking women then men of any rank.
Some women need "mysogyny" as an excuse.
The Feminazis are already doing that. They can't stand it that other people make different choices. People choose to do things that they don't approve of. This could include motherhood or making nude photos. Feminists want to interfere with the choices of others as much as "church lady" types do.
People should be free to do what they want. That was kind of the point of Emma's speech.
So those CEOs of HP and Yahoo must be some sort of hallucination then?
Let us not forget multiple heads of state, secretaries of state, and multiple chief justices.
No they don't. Once you control for things like job role and qualifications, things come out pretty equal. You can find discrepancies if you try to compare teachers to high rise welders but that's an apple's and oranges comparison.
It's Ukraine. Regimes change like the weather in other places. If you don't like the one now, all you have to do is wait awhile. It will change soon enough.
They're like the Iraq of the former USSR.
No grand conspiracies are really needed. Although that doesn't stop Putin from going out of his way to make it look like there is one.
> Desktops are overvalued @200 dollars compared to cheap tablets with 2-4 cores and 1-2GB of ram for ~50 dollars...
Those desktops will still run circles around the tablets once you stray off the reservation. They are good at some very narrow tasks only. The moment you do something interesting that wasn't accounted for in the SoC, you are screwed.
Cheap tablets have to "outsource" any voice recognition to some server across the network.
The overvalued desktop can do that stuff on it's own.
A lot of ARM devices are pretty useless without some sort of mothership running a real CPU.
My all time least favorite name brand PC is actually Apple.
Of all of the brands I have dealt with, it is by far the most crapulent. My brand name PCs that are supposed to be so sh*tty just chug along and do their job until they become too obsolete to tweak anymore.
Plus, Macs are relatively untweakable relegating them to doorstop status quicker than some clone sh*tbox.
HELL, there was an article about this last week talking about how vulture capitalists love to take over sensibly run companies and then trash them for short tern gain. By sensible, I mean that they own their own facilities. This means something like a restaurant chain owning their own buildings.
The vultures will come in, swoop down, sell off the real estate and set up lease back scams saddling the once well engineered company with ugly ongoing operating costs. The proceeds from the real estate sales will be sucked out by the vultures.
THAT is Wall Street.
The sad part of this is that Dell had already assimilated an up-market brand. There's really no cause for this excuse of theirs that they couldn't target the high end while being public. They already had an up-market label to put on this kind of stuff.